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What Will Happen if the USA Withdraws From Afghanistan

by Agha Amin September 13, 2009 18:03

Any US withdrawal from Afghanistan would create another delusion. A false conclusion that Islam has won and USA lost. It would boost morale in the Islamists and would lead to far greater chaos.

While it is theoretically neat and cosmetically nice to advance the view point that the USA should withdraw from Afghanistan. The idea is far complicated at the strategic and operational level.

While it is true that the Pakistan and US sponsored so called Mujahideen did not follow the USSR into Russia,their successors the Taliban were allied with parties with a Pan Islamist outlook. Parties which wanted to carry Jihad into Europe,America and Africa.

The USSR withdrawal from Afghanistan was not a military defeat but a political act of withdrawal covered by the creation of the Northern Alliance which was half leftist and pro Russian. The fact of the matter remains that USSR withdrawal was fallaciously interpreted as a great victory of Islam, while actually it was not so. This interpretation led to creation of many dreams of glory and carrying on of the Islamic Jihad into India, Bosnia, Chechniya etc.

Any US withdrawal from Afghanistan would create another delusion. A false conclusion that Islam has won and USA lost. It would boost morale in the Islamists and would lead to far greater chaos and confusion than ever witnessed before in modern history.

In brief the implications of a US withdrawal would be :--

1-Collapse of the moderate Afghan regime created after billions of dollars of US and European/G 8 aid within a matter of months.

2-Creation of an unemployed and uncommitted reserve of Islamic extremists who are well trained in military art and would represent a greater threat to the Pakistani state as it presently exists and to all neighbours of Afghanistan.

3-A renewed civil war in Afghanistan with Taliban backed by Pakistan and Saudi Arabia and the Northern Alliance backed by Russia, Iran, Central Asian Republics and possibly USA and China.

The key to the Afghan disorder lies in Afghanistans neighbours and not in Afghanistan itself :--

1-Pakistan and Saudi Arabian states regard Afghanistan as a battle ground in between an Iran/Indian/Russian backed Northern Alliance and a Sunni puritan Talibans.

2-Russia ,India,Central Asian Republics and G 8 in general regard Taliban as a threat to their countries and to the region.

A possible solution may be in the following :--

1-Continued US presence retaining key military bases in North Afghanistan and in Baloch majority Nimroz as sword of Damocles for the Taliban. Withdrawal of US forces from South Afghanistan while retaining the Kabul Torkham Corridor which is safe in any case.

2-Integrating Russia,India and Pakistan in a regional solution while creating an Independent North Afghanistan which is Non Pashtun majority, South Afghanistan which is Pashtun majority, and a Baloch Autonomous Region in the south west Afghanistan.

3-Initiation of dialogue with the Taliban offering them South Afghanistan while withdrawing US/NATO forces north of the line Dilaram-Uruzgan-Ghazni-Paktiya-Paktika while retaining Baloch majority Nimroz.

Nothing in history is inevitable.Afghanistan was a province of Mughal,Saffavid and the Bokharan Uzbeks till 1747.It was controlled by a subsidy of 13 lakh per month by British from 1857 to 1919 and it was a neutral country with no threat to world peace from 1919 to 1978.

It is a misconception that Taliban control 90 % of Afghanistan or all population of Afghanistan is with Taliban unless you believe the Pakistani or Saudi establishment.The Saudi establishment fears the Shias and Iran far more than USA or Israel. Thus the deep Saudi interest in a Taliban dominated Afghanistan.

The fact is that Taliban control some 50 % of Afghanistan while some 60 % of Afghanistans population is against them.

If the USA withdraws what will happen to the 60 % who are against the Taliban ? These include Tajiks, Uzbeks, Turkmens, Hazaras and many educated Pashtuns .This would be a great political and strategic failure of USA and NATO ? The main winners in this case would be Russia,India and Iran in Afghamistans north and Pakistans generals and Saudis in the south.

A solution of Afghan war must be based on a combination of B-52 bombers, US Dollars, Divide and Rule and regional guarantees.



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#174 KHYBER September 18, 2009 16:28
Re: # 153,GoldFinger, Ahmad Faraz my favt revolutionary poet, was from kohat but not Bangash,his family is SYED,very well known in kohat, Peshawar,his close relative was my class mate in college,his one brother was my college professor,reall y nice people.

 
 
#173 RiazHaq September 17, 2009 10:40
"They should get out as soon as possible. Or they'll be picked off like clay pigeons in target practice."

The above words of warning to America are attributed by the NPR radio to former Soviet Afghan war veteran, Lt. Sergei Maximov, on the 20th anniversary of the humiliating defeat of the Soviet empire twenty years ago.

On February 15, 1989, the last Soviet troops pulled out of Afghanistan, nine years after they swept into the country. The Soviet action involved more than 600,000 Soviet soldiers and resulted in large numbers of killed and wounded both among them and among the Afghan population.

Remembering the fateful war that brought down the Soviet Union, another war veteran, former sergeant Boris Raisky, chimes in, "I realized we were fighting a counterinsurgen cy against local partisans. By definition, that's an unwinnable war."

You can read more at http://www.riazhaq.com/2009/02/twentieth-anninversay-of-sovi et-defeat.html
Riaz Haq, PakAlumni Worldwide

 
 
#172 pavocavalry September 17, 2009 07:35
30 years before 1857 there was no war.the third maratha war was fought i 1817-18
Agha Amin

 
 
#171 pavocavalry September 17, 2009 07:34
your facts are all wrong.the british suffered maximum casualties at chillianwallah in 1849 in all battles fought agaonst all including india , afghanistan,ira n.

tantia topi never went to nepal.he was caught in 1859 and hanged.
Agha Amin

 
 
#170 manus September 17, 2009 07:31
"Largest casulties British suffered was in the battle of Hadapsar (mountain of bones) near Pune. Yashwantrao Holkar defeated British in that battle."

I am not talking about 1857. I am talking 30 years before.

One who calls Tatya's surname as Topi, probably reads British Company babudom written books. Pavo thoda Paw (firang bread) khana Kum Karo.

Shivaji made every one Kshatriya including Mahars and Dhangars (sheep herders). Holkars were Dhangar. Bajirao I, was a Bramhin by birth but was a brave Kshatriya by profession with second wife (keep) a Muslim.

Shinde did not participate in 1857 as Marathi Karhade Bramhin Janshi Ki Rani did. Tatya and many Marathas went to Nepal after the defeat in 1857.

 
 
#169 pavocavalry September 16, 2009 23:50
By the way Tantia Topi was a Maratha Brahman and not from Kanpur.In any case he was stationed at Bithur distinct from Kanpur with the nana sahib
Agha Amin

 
 
#168 pavocavalry September 16, 2009 23:47
note that your facts about Scindia are all wrong.Whole of Gwalior contingent of Scindiia consisting of Hindustanis revolted and joined Tantia Topi.Scindia was left with no army a and was an hopeless old man sitting in his palace in Gwalior.

Also note that the main fighting was at Delhi and casualties suffered by british at Delhi from june 1857 till its capture in september exceeded all other british casualties in 1857 combined.
Agha Amin

 
 
#167 pavocavalry September 16, 2009 23:44
the highest , most numerous british casualties suffered in any single battle was Chillianwallah on 13 January 1849.Your facts are all wrong.
Agha Amin

 
 
#166 manus September 16, 2009 23:08
Largest casulties British suffered was in the battle of Hadapsar (mountain of bones) near Pune. Yashwantrao Holkar defeated British in that battle.

 
 
#165 manus September 16, 2009 22:59
If Shinde (Scindia of Gwalior) had joined Tatya Tope of Kanpur, Company rule would have ended in 1857. Similarly Holkars of Indore, Gaikwads of Varodara and Bhosales of Nagpur/Ranchi should have participated. Savarkar's book on the 1857 history needs to be read by all Indians. JLN company made us read British fed history. We look at our ancestors through British colorful lies and not our own eyes.

 

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