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to solve Ahmedie Alvies Bohra Khoja Ismailie debandi bareilve moudoodi J.I. Nomanis Israrivi Asfaryndi ..etc
All of them vehemently claim Mohommed And Koran as the common denominator .Its not difficult for Hindu, Christian Jews to BECOME muslim just in one day.Its the open door policy and dangerous public disclosure system which makes it futile to defend anything which is easily atainable as easily as eating out in one day i.e. to become mUSLIM.
Let every body in cluding Hindu christians jews if they coose to call them selves Muslims when just by appreciating koran & mohommed they can do so .
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"Post by izuber on Jun 19, 2008 10:46:07 pm
Senna
Right you are, the policy is open door, because none else other than Allah SWT is going to judge the subject, in as much as owning Islam is concerned the shares are on sale and dividends are big while it doesn't cost you anything, wana try out?
Who knows you may be the most superior only if you tried. All it takes is willingness and an open mind at the end the choice is yours.
In the end you will be thankful to all those who invite you to join in on the path to heavens.
Anticipating"
Sometime there is all of social barrier to leave relatives house city live in fear if you rthe majority and don right let down of ego to conversion gen speaking we are mostly what were our parent .I think inter religous marriage couples are victimised by the lack of direction Thats why it is better to agree on the future and determine the direction to be followed for children
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Post by guru on Jun 19, 2008 11:13:28 pm
For sure I do not own any ism. But I try to follow Sanatan Dharma as I understand. It kind of narrows down the choices when faced with inumerable choices and the confusion caused in my mind. I am not even conscious of it since it is so deep in my DNA. Might havce born in this land called India number of times. Instead of me owning Sanatan Dharma it owns my Ahankar and Buddhi.
About being Muslim: I am a follower of Islam ie Peace. For the peace if I have to use weapons and fight I am always ready for it.
My point is - Semitic Legions have caused slavery, genocide, destruction of indiginous cultures all owver the world. I do not need to be part of pyramid schemes and disown my culture, language, ancestory and glorious civilization. I do not want to use any postman, messenger or middle man to communicate with the super consciousness, Ishwar or Bramhan to get into illusory heaven with 72 houries.
GURU..
i understand there is no need of conversion for the reason given above.If you r so much detestable of Abrahmic monotheism look at the contributions of monotheist ( no matter how theoretical ramunajan vivekanandas philosophy or ancientness of indian history .The abrahmic have made TANGIBLE gifts ( with some sideefects like all EFFECTIVE drugs)despite all u r enumerated evils.
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"Post by laddu on Jun 20, 2008 1:12:16 am
"Let every body in cluding Hindu christians jews if they coose to call them selves Muslims when just by appreciating koran & mohommed they can do so ."
Senna ji,
How can any one appreaciate the Mohammad of Hedeeths.
Mohammad as described by the Hadeeths is absolutely an obnoxious person who does not deserve any respect.
If you want idolators like me to appreciate Islam then we would have to prune the message in such a way that mullahs would squirm .(...and we might be doing the modern muslims a great favour by doing their job that they are afraid to do...)"
Laddu
Idol comes from IDEAL eveybody strives to be there perceived IDEAL .I dont think there is in metephorical abstract and essence iterpretative sense wrong with YOUR IDOLLATORY ( i ve been long wanting to say this to you)
There is only how you symbolize .Thatis make icons.
Regarding Hadeeth koran mohommed your Rajiv Malhotra defending Hinduism against Wendy Dorringer Naasbaum has classified opinion into 4 forms
Outsider to out sider
out sider to insider
insider to out sider
Insider to insider
Are the Arun Shouries, francis Gauthiers. Koenrad elstd Shyma prasad & may be many in west are not outsiders .???
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"Post by jang on Jun 20, 2008 4:33:40 am
why become muslim? why not be a good hindu? or better, a good sikh?
Post by nb on Jun 20, 2008 2:20:47 am
no, senna, i don't want to be a muslim...maybe in my next life, depending on how i've been in this one
This is actually adressed to muslims b/c it concerns ISLAM not Hinduism
n b & jang who is aking you to BECOME anything other than what u choose
Its much easier to BE hindu in India .NO HINDU WOULD ATLEAST IN INDIA DECLARE THEMSELVES AS NON HINDU .
Thats just fine
Those that remain minority are more commendable
not that any body else has any MORE coviction than you two
You have good religion .U to urs me to mine
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Post by jang on Jun 20, 2008 4:33:40 am
why become muslim? why not be a good hindu? or better, a good sikh?
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Post by nb on Jun 20, 2008 2:20:47 am
no, senna, i don't want to be a muslim...maybe in my next life, depending on how i've been in this one
how many nicks do you have at the moment?
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Post by laddu on Jun 20, 2008 1:12:16 am
"Let every body in cluding Hindu christians jews if they coose to call them selves Muslims when just by appreciating koran & mohommed they can do so ."
Senna ji,
How can any one appreaciate the Mohammad of Hedeeths.
Mohammad as described by the Hadeeths is absolutely an obnoxious person who does not deserve any respect.
If you want idolators like me to appreciate Islam then we would have to prune the message in such a way that mullahs would squirm .(...and we might be doing the modern muslims a great favour by doing their job that they are afraid to do...)
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Post by guru on Jun 19, 2008 11:13:28 pm
For sure I do not own any ism. But I try to follow Sanatan Dharma as I understand. It kind of narrows down the choices when faced with inumerable choices and the confusion caused in my mind. I am not even conscious of it since it is so deep in my DNA. Might havce born in this land called India number of times. Instead of me owning Sanatan Dharma it owns my Ahankar and Buddhi.
About being Muslim: I am a follower of Islam ie Peace. For the peace if I have to use weapons and fight I am always ready for it.
My point is - Semitic Legions have caused slavery, genocide, destruction of indiginous cultures all owver the world. I do not need to be part of pyramid schemes and disown my culture, language, ancestory and glorious civilization. I do not want to use any postman, messenger or middle man to communicate with the super consciousness, Ishwar or Bramhan to get into illusory heaven with 72 houries.
Thanks for the offer though!
Post by izuber on Jun 19, 2008 10:46:07 pm
Senna
Right you are, the policy is open door, because none else other than Allah SWT is going to judge the subject, in as much as owning Islam is concerned the shares are on sale and dividends are big while it doesn't cost you anything, wana try out?
Who knows you may be the most superior only if you tried. All it takes is willingness and an open mind at the end the choice is yours.
In the end you will be thankful to all those who invite you to join in on the path to heavens.
Anticipating
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