35 by pmishra2 on December 7, 2003 8:36pm PT
#21 Alpana

No, we don’t need the Elst and Gautier’s of the world to help us. We just need to look around North India and realize a remarkable fact. That not a single historic hindu or buddhist structure of any antiquity survives there, other than mosques !!! A few caves and "hidden" temples may be found here or there but other than that they have all been vandalized or destroyed. And this is in INDIA. I won’t even refer to the cultural genocide that has taken place in jihadistan with a systematic and complete erasure of the original culture, which even Hitler would have admired.

Here is quote taken from this Sunday’s DAWN, written by an honest pakistani intellectual.

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Going back in history, Hindu extremists now openly talk of getting even for the centuries of Muslim invasions and dominance. The destruction of Babri Masjid in Ayodhya was an expression of this growing expression of Hindu nationalism. Zakaria says that Mahmood of Ghazni’s depredations into India a thousand years ago had little to do with Islam and were basically expeditions aimed at loot and plunder. However, Ferishta’s monumental History of the Rise of the Mahomedan Power in India, translated into English by John Briggs in 1829, tells a different story. According to Ferishta, on an expedition to India in 1011, Mahmood was informed about a Hindu holy city called Tahnesur and determined to conquer it. Raja Anundpal sent his brother with an offer of "fifty elephants and jewels of a considerable amount" apart from meeting the cost of the expedition if Mahmood would spare Tahnesur.

Mahmood is quoted as replying: "The religion of the faithful inculcates the following tenet: ’That in proportion as the tenets of the Prophet (PBUH) are diffused, and his followers exert themselves in the subversion of idolatry, so shall be their reward in heaven; that, therefore, it behoved him, with the assistance of God, to root out the worship of idols from the face of all India. How then should he spare Tahnesur?"
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Remember that Islam means peace and that Mohammed was pretty much a founder of Amnesty International. Or at least that is what K


PP.MISRA2

True to name LONG ON LECTURE short onKNOWLEGDE !!!

ASk your govt BJP to spend some of the Miserrly Baniya accumulated 100 billins $$ from expatrites in petro $$ rich middle east Manual workes hard labours TO SPEND ON YOUR EDUCATION of HOW ISLAMCAME TO BENGAL between 1200 -1700 A.D.????????


What you claim is no more than HEARSAY not ADMISSIBLE as EVIDENCE in MY COURT !!


But lok at more recent reports of DARA bun Gaya SALA’Bolywood’ hero SINGHS criminal endorsement by Party in POWER of Central Govt And its EVIL venemous Activities CONDEMNED by ALL NON HINDU and Many Decent HINDUS????????





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Goa’s Catholics under threat?
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By Zubair Ahmed
BBC correspondent in Goa

Forty years after the Portuguese left, the western Indian state of Goa hangs on to an unusual legacy of imperial rule.

Mangesh temple tower: Hinduism has co-existed with Christianity for centuries

It is India’s only state with a uniform civil code.

This means that the Hindus, who make up 60% of the population, the Catholics, who account for 35%, and its tiny minority of Muslims are governed by just one, uniform, set of family laws.

The code has worked well enough for centuries - but now there are fears for Goa’s fabled communal harmony.

Despite its strong Catholic cultural roots, Goa currently has a right-wing Hindu nationalist government.

For Goans, Christianity has long been a fact of life.

But sections of the Hindu community have begun making increasingly bold - some say dangerous - statements expressing the view that Christianity is an alien faith, imposed on Indians during the colonial era.

A Hindu cab driver told me: "All Goans were Hindus before the Portuguese came here."

He had a simple explanation for why the state’s Catholic population was increasing: "You know, when children are born into Catholic families, they are converted to Christianity after a week or so."

Father George of Candolim Church in north Goa is worried: "There is that impression that Catholics are pro-Portuguese and anti-national, which is not true. We are very much for our motherland. We are not Portuguese. Nothing should divide us."

It is a defensive plea for calm. And many say it’s a vain attempt to head off the gathering storm.

’Saffronising’ the system

Goa’s Hindu nationalist Chief Minister, Manohar Parrikar of the Bharatiya Janata Party, is often accused of marginalising Christians when it comes to key government jobs.

Chief Minister Parrikar says his critics are spreading lies

Rajen Narayan, editor of the English-language Herald newspaper, believes Mr Parrikar has launched a campaign to promote Hindus to high places in the state.

"After Parrikar came to office, he’s been making systematic attempts to saffronise the education system, to put people in key areas of cultural, intellectual penetration, like heads of libraries, heads of educational institutions, heads of cultural bodies."

Some also allege that the Catholics were ignored during the recent recruitment of 6,000 policemen - as much as one-third of Goa’s police force.

But Mr Parrikar denies this. He insists that Goan Catholics traditionally don’t apply for low-level jobs in the police force.

He accuses his critics of spreading lies about him. "It’s almost three years now and nothing of what was told to them [Catholics] is happening. They were told that your churches will be burnt down, crosses will be burnt. But nothing has happened."

Normal service

Worshippers leaving church in north Goa on a bright Sunday morning are serene about whether they see the BJP as a threat.

A Catholic woman said: "Everything is quite peaceful here. Somehow everybody is very strong in their faith here":

Catholic culture and Portuguese customs live on in Goa’s bars

Another one added: "We are on our own, we’re not interfering with anybody. They are not interfering with us".

But many, including Goa’s best-known cartoonist Mario Miranda, believe far-reaching changes are underway and the Goan Christian is simply giving ground.

"I blame the Catholic Goans themselves because most of them are emigrating. They are leaving Goa," says Mr Miranda.

For the moment though, it is Sunday service as usual in the hundreds of ancient, white-washed churches dotted across Goa.

Tensions, if any, have yet to break through the tranquil surface.