#43 by iron_mask on December 14, 2006 6:21am PT
#40 #39 I donot want to burst your bubbles (and interfere in your little world).....
but the mans work is highly cited.....and many of his papers (all scholarly works, refereed and published in LEARNED INTERNATIONAL JOURNALS) have citations in the 300’s. So I would go easy on this aspect, maybe there are other aspects of him you can go to town on.

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#42 by iron_mask on December 14, 2006 6:16am PT
Re: # 37

mantolives: a question not a ungle question but a serious one.

Thomas jefferson slave owner shagger of his slaves etc etc and a bad un....but he bequathed the US with something useful. The americans are grateful for this...and make full use of it. They donot care if you call him a racist, a slave owner, a hypocrite etc. In a similar manner, you have Simon Bolivar in all of South america. Similarly Gandhi in India. He gavethe indians something a presnt ifyou like, and along with the likes of Nehru, Ambedkar etc gave India something precious. Indians have been successfull in making something out of it. They donot care if want to dig up shit on Gandhi, ambedkar, nehru et al.(remember shit can be dug up on any body - including you (despite your efforts at erasing chowk archives and your paen to the Nazis (gas chambers and motor ways and all))). In Jefferson’s case its been 200+years since he was around.

Gandhis and the others case 60 years. 60 years is 3+ generations of people. That is a lot of generations. And India and Indians have moved on from those days (alright in stutters so what - they have a goal and sort of know how to get there)

Jinnah gave pakistan something great and meaningful. and its been 60 years since that present was delivered. again 3+ generations of people. Yet All people like you can talk about is Jinnah this Jinnah that. As if he is the only guy in town. What abot=ut the rest of you guys. Kya tum sab ghaas charne pe lage ho! or as a wag would say kay tum sab sale muuth marne pe tule ho! Better still jhak marhe thekya sab. Get on with life. Jinnah is not here. The times and situations and environment is not the same as in Jinnah’s time. You need to bring yourself into the 21st century and not hark back to the 20th.
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