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Recently by laddu
- Kaal alais Eklavya's taquiyya.
- My predictions for Pakistan
- Manas-Pujan of the Ishwara saved Hindus from Islam
- Sunnah as a perishable ego's attempt at Immortality
- The present strife within Islam is for the control of its modern educated munafiqoons
- Once a Muslim, always a Muslim
- reification of one's ego to that of divine by fallen ones
- Hindus need violent Kshatriyas to save it's gentler side!!
- Paganistic polyandry is the best solution to "protect" the rights of women
- Why Jizya (or Kharaj) is hated by Hindus!!
- Why moderate muslims must take help from anti-Islamist Hindus!!
- spiritual strategy to help moderate muslims
- Functional Spiritualism- The myth of contrived Abrahimic spiritual lineage
- Monotheism & Violence
- Monotheism & Violence
- Pakistani 'moderates' must use Hindutva to marginalize the mullahs!!
Once a Muslim, always a Muslim
Re: # 125
"Once a Muslim, always a Muslim - in thought, deed, and identity - no matter what."
That is false. The moment a momeen child takes to western education and wears jeans and T Shirt (especially women folk) you have a munafiqoon getting created in the so called Islamic land.
And more muslims are taking to western education than madarassa education.
Therefore, More muslim munafiqoons are getting created than real Sunnat professing madarassa educated momeens.
And, the rate at which the western educated munafiqoons are completely leaving Islam and becoming murtids is greater that those munafiqoons who are becoming sunnat following momeens. (obvious from the population of bearded momeens)!
In all, the murtids are increasing - despite propaganda of Islamists. It is a silent and irreversible revolution in the momeen world that is soon going to be the biggest problem for the Islamists.
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Posted by laddu on
Saturday July 26, 2008 06:49 am
I made some very fine points.
Despite Islamist propaganda (which never impressed me in the first place) or their regular bomb blasts ( which also never instilled any fear but only cemented my resolve to fight violently in the near future) , the trend of modern english educated muslims (the munafiqoons) never getting to accept Sunnah in their old age is now getting real.
And that is exactly what makes the mullahs worried because Ummah as political entity is fast losing its shean and their dukan is also losing the customers!
The real fight within Islam now is for the control of the modern munafiqoons - which the Islamists are losing.
Despite Islamist propaganda (which never impressed me in the first place) or their regular bomb blasts ( which also never instilled any fear but only cemented my resolve to fight violently in the near future) , the trend of modern english educated muslims (the munafiqoons) never getting to accept Sunnah in their old age is now getting real.
And that is exactly what makes the mullahs worried because Ummah as political entity is fast losing its shean and their dukan is also losing the customers!
The real fight within Islam now is for the control of the modern munafiqoons - which the Islamists are losing.
Posted by hurricane on
Monday July 21, 2008 08:38 am
Laddu bhai!
I'm glad to see your enthusiasm against muslas has not dampened the least bit.
Please keep on your good work, it offers us muslims some resistance. And you know, without resistance, one cannot build muscle ;)
I'm glad to see your enthusiasm against muslas has not dampened the least bit.
Please keep on your good work, it offers us muslims some resistance. And you know, without resistance, one cannot build muscle ;)
Posted by Zyxius on
Monday July 21, 2008 05:39 am
Lakum deenukum walee yadeen
To you is your religion and to me is mine.
That is the belief of Muslims.
However, when someone...anyone...constantly makes it his mission to malign Islam and to preach hatred against Muslim...that person shouldn't be shown leniency.
Chowk allowing someone to constantly spew hatred against us like this shows that the people who are responsible for moderation do not take hate speech seriously enough. And my comments regarding Hinduism are only to put into perspective how the individual who is throwing these stones at us is not bothering to look in the mirror.
To you is your religion and to me is mine.
That is the belief of Muslims.
However, when someone...anyone...constantly makes it his mission to malign Islam and to preach hatred against Muslim...that person shouldn't be shown leniency.
Chowk allowing someone to constantly spew hatred against us like this shows that the people who are responsible for moderation do not take hate speech seriously enough. And my comments regarding Hinduism are only to put into perspective how the individual who is throwing these stones at us is not bothering to look in the mirror.
Posted by Nadeenahmed83 on
Monday July 21, 2008 01:29 am
I think the moderators are working on the tolerance and freedom of speech idea too - For me - the muslim hindu fight is hard to understand - i see no logic behind it - sorry about that.
Posted by Nadeenahmed83 on
Monday July 21, 2008 01:27 am
Hmm...I have read the last post...I even commented - and Mr Laddu was not rude to me at all in it for some reason :-)
True that he is against Islam and all it stands for - but we are also now getting personal about his beliefs - right?
Islam does mention showing tolerance for other religions - I have read that - Laddu Sahab missed that part of his research in Islam. But its ok - Its not his religion, so why should he know about the good things that muslims also do?
Maybe we should ignore each other and go on with our own beliefs - thats one option worth investigating too.
Its just an idea - ok?
Not asking for a spanking here please!
True that he is against Islam and all it stands for - but we are also now getting personal about his beliefs - right?
Islam does mention showing tolerance for other religions - I have read that - Laddu Sahab missed that part of his research in Islam. But its ok - Its not his religion, so why should he know about the good things that muslims also do?
Maybe we should ignore each other and go on with our own beliefs - thats one option worth investigating too.
Its just an idea - ok?
Not asking for a spanking here please!
Posted by Zyxius on
Monday July 21, 2008 01:00 am
Please read Laddu's past posting about Islam and you too will wonder why our moderators have let this dude continue to post on this site. He's a total waste of time and has only insults as his objective. You do not expect intellectual integrity from someone who sees fit to raise a cow above himself in status.....although in his case it isn't entirely inaccurate.
Posted by Zyxius on
Monday July 21, 2008 12:53 am
Laddu...you're still a dumb cow worshipper. Please stick to your own lower castes, the untouchable family you come from, the pathetic status of women in your religion, and the fact that you idiots worship every animal around. And then you turn around to write about Islam? People who live in such extremely flimsy glass houses should certainly avoid throwing stones. When was the last time you drank some bovine excrement? And does it make you a hypocrite Hindu if you refuse a glass of that yellow stuff?
Posted by Nadeenahmed83 on
Sunday July 20, 2008 11:09 pm
Sorry - I meant Eklavya - not Kaptain - Usually Kaptain comes up with good reasonings as well - sorry about that!
Posted by Nadeenahmed83 on
Sunday July 20, 2008 11:08 pm
Kaptain - With due respect - I agree with Laddu Sahab on one point - and there is truth in this -
Islam orders covering up for women - I have personally observed that it is not being done - muslim women not behaving right in western culture - dancing, drinking, love without marriage - not allowed in Islam - One should be realistic on this - girls do over-do a bit now.
As for the rest - I dont understand what it means - so no comments on that - I hope its not an insult to all muslims - I am one too you know - I just understood the clothes part - that worries me as well.
Islam orders covering up for women - I have personally observed that it is not being done - muslim women not behaving right in western culture - dancing, drinking, love without marriage - not allowed in Islam - One should be realistic on this - girls do over-do a bit now.
As for the rest - I dont understand what it means - so no comments on that - I hope its not an insult to all muslims - I am one too you know - I just understood the clothes part - that worries me as well.
Posted by Eklavya on
Sunday July 20, 2008 07:45 pm
laddu bhai, the ONLY difference between a sunnat professing madrassa educated momeen and a jeans and shirt wearing Muslim is that the former wants to live Islam while the latter wants to use Islam, but they both want (to create) an Islamic world.
Some of the greatest Muslims - Jinnah and Iqbal - wore suits, and all male Muslims in Europe wear pants. Islam does not depend upon clothes, nor does education, wealth, or anything else makes any signficant difference in a Muslim's full commitment to it.
Really, Islam is so perfectly suited for Muslims that they have no reason to give it up.
Khair...later.
Some of the greatest Muslims - Jinnah and Iqbal - wore suits, and all male Muslims in Europe wear pants. Islam does not depend upon clothes, nor does education, wealth, or anything else makes any signficant difference in a Muslim's full commitment to it.
Really, Islam is so perfectly suited for Muslims that they have no reason to give it up.
Khair...later.
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