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AKCheema
'I have theorised earlier and reiterate that USA`s `War on Terrorism` and `WMDs in Iraq` will ultimately become a war of hate between the high tech and the minimalists, who unfortunately happen to be Muslims. The Muslim world is in dire need of a good leader. The seeds of misery implanted in Afghanistan,Iraq, Palestine and Kashmir will unfortunately germinate into a wave of high tech and primordial violence. What we do not know is whether it will be a total burnout or not'
http://www.chowk.com/interacts/u/32558/1/0/912
sept 2003
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The tragedy is that USA has not recognised Terrorism as a social problem. It has chosen a military course of action which in turn is generating more hate. Unfortunately the hi tech violence will be met by primordial revenge and blood will continue to flow.
http://www.chowk.com/interacts/u/32558/1/0/896
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So the present war has not only hurt the entire Muslim world despite words of caution from the international community, but also challenged the prevailing paradigm of conflict. Whatever stability USA can bring in Iraq, the sentiments of hate will continue to grow and USA will never be able to win the hearts and minds. Hi Tech weapons will continue to be challenged by primordial means. USA will never be able to impose the hi tech modernisation on a primordial and patriarchal society especially when the sentiments are driven by richness of history, religious beliefs and hate.
I agree that USA is in for a long haul and sooner of later, the invaders will have to leave unceremoniously.
http://www.chowk.com/interacts/u/32558/1/0/880
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Civil society is the most important pillar of the NATION. Civil society in Pakistan has hardly developedand remained in the throes of Elites, Fuedals and what some call the Establishment. The middle class that forms the backbone of the civil society and the only group to challenge the equilibrium is struggling for survival. Its fringes are fast moving below the poverty line. So this potent engine of change is in a limbo beset by disillusionment and fight for survival.
In such a vacum, the rise of primodialism and misuse of religion for political legitimacy are dynamics that set in. If it succeds then might as well say ADIUE to the modern NATION-STATE and move to the caves.
http://www.chowk.com/interacts/u/32558/1/0/816
Apr 2004
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There is a major flaw in the US post Cold War security strategy. It sees its armies as expeditionary, ever ready to intervene for its interests termed as economic, freedom, democracy and anti terrorism. For Iraq the raison detre was WMD and Terrorism; albeit both false premises. In the meantime, the invasion of Iraq was war gamed playing invariably on the Shia Sunni divide. The eagle has landed on a sticky surface and stuck knee deep. US economic interests and pride are too high to accept a quick volte face. It has pitched the information age Maximilist forces with a rag tag highly motivated Minimalists
in full fury in the urban areas of Iraq in which the would be allies ie Shia have turned out to be the enemy. Disregarding the Doctrine of Trinity put forth by Clausewitz will extract a heavy price. Already, allies have begun jumping the boat.
It can also be said that when shadows of war lenghten and friends begin to forsake, there is something seriously flawed with the legitinacy of the conflict. Only Iraqis can now decide when the conflict will end. No Un, no OIC and to say the least, no USA.
http://www.chowk.com/interacts/u/32558/1/0/800
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Anyone who spends some time in the establishment is bound to develope a mindset and a mental fixation.I think it is well past the time when we could blame the USA and the so called CIA sponsored Jihad as an overflow of violence in our country. Those great Research and Development wings in every department, various institutes of Strategic Studies and Foreign Relations, Organisations for conflict Resolutions and Crises management should have produces some recommendations on what could be the fallouts for Pakistan. Alas! the roost is shared by people who have nothing to do with these bottom of the barrel think tanks.Hence these babus continue to churn_in_ out.
Unfortunately we have fought everyone elses wars but ours. There is going to be no respite till such time the hard nut is not cracked.
All such incidents follow a stereoptype pattern, be it the bombing of mosques, churches, consulates, assasination of the head of state or killing of Danielle Pearl.You do not have to be a genius to know who? Just browse the net. You will have the answers.
http://www.chowk.com/interacts/u/32558/1/0/784
may 2004
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When I say i said it in 1997, I mean that I opposed the Taliban and Kashmir policies of violence tooth and nail in whatever capacity I was in. So on this I stand with you.
I remained a thorn till 2005 when I finally gave up with the system.
So I am sure such policies would not reverse so easily. Again I stand with you, but knowing how it works, am disillusioned.
I thought a person as educated as you would read it as such.
I guess you also went to France. Did you?
I speak as an ordinary citizen of the world .... the way I analyse things from a distance ... you, on the other hand, may be too deeply involved (at a personal, professional or emotional level) to have an independent perspective (I said may be!)
... however I think the truth may be somewhere in the middle ... given I already acknowledged the 'prime' instigator to be economics; you must agree though that the Pandora's box has been opened and the situation HAS evolved ... into something quite unpleasant
Ijaz sahib, we could argue til the cows come home but the fact remains that when someone blows themselves up (with utter disregard for human life ... their own and others)... with an eerie similarity of pattern within the muslim world (and beyond ... by muslims), it is anyone's baby now! any disenfranchised group can hijack this at any stage for whatever objective (and they have) ... you don't observe the same pattern amongst disemphranchised Indo-chinese or some other group "wronged" by the 'west'!
as Blaise Pascal said; ""Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction."
by the same token should we be trying to settle old scores of injustices, perceived or real, committed in the hayday of the Islamic (or indeed the Christian!!) empire to those who didn't subscribe to the 'dominant' viewpoint of the day? (believe me, I am a very ordinary human being from a Pakistani Muslim background .... with a very 'traditional' upbringing ..... it is far easier for me to subscribe to your point of view then try to argue against it!)
as for your interacts, I do follow yours when I can prospectively and my earlier transgressions were based on my reading of them, after having given the content some thought
Khuda Hafiz sir
On the larger canvas, it is now a conflict between the Maximilist represented by USA/West and all its technology/economic clout and the Minimalist represented by the Muslim masses ruled by kings/dictators etc who abide by the first. Their tool of resistance is distruption and primordial violence. Till such time a common interest between the two is created, the conflict will conflagarate. I said it in response to thethesis of The Clash of Civilisations in 1995. I said it when Pakistan went nuclear in 1998, I said it in 1999 after the coup and still say it.
The issue is socio-economic, religion providing the rallying point. It has to be handled through a Societal Dimension with a very precise and surgical use of force.
Remember that modernity is a creation of a Knowledge revolution whose prima facie was secularism.
On the larger canvas, it is now a conflict between the Maximilist represented by USA/West and all its technology/economic clout and the Minimalist represented by the Muslim masses ruled by kings/dictators etc who abide by the first. Their tool of resistance is distruption and primordial violence. Till such time a common interest between the two is created, the conflict will conflagarate. I said it in response to thethesis of The Clash of Civilisations in 1995. I said it when Pakistan went nuclear in 1998, I said it in 1999 after the coup and still say it.
The issue is socio-economic, religion providing the rallying point. It has to be handled through a Societal Dimension with a very precise and surgical use of force.
Remember that modernity is a creation of a Knowledge revolution whose prima facie was secularism.
On the larger canvas, it is now a conflict between the Maximilist represented by USA/West and all its technology/economic clout and the Minimalist represented by the Muslim masses ruled by kings/dictators etc who abide by the first. Their tool of resistance is distruption and primordial violence. Till such time a common interest between the two is created, the conflict will conflagarate. I said it in response to thethesis of The Clash of Civilisations in 1995. I said it when Pakistan went nuclear in 1998, I said it in 1999 after the coup and still say it.
The issue is socio-economic, religion providing the rallying point. It has to be handled through a Societal Dimension with a very precise and surgical use of force.
Remember that modernity is a creation of a Knowledge revolution whose prima facie was secularism.
sometimes I just get the feeling that a bit more passion in the reverse direction wouldn't go amiss! that's all
and I used to think the same not long ago .... I didn't consider this to be a conflict between the muslims and the rest of the world but simply that of economic forces dictating the fundamentals of individual conflicts at a prime level ... BUT unfortunately that's the direction it has taken (with the muslim elite .. mostly secular and the clergy having an equal share of the blame ... alongwith the other groups you alluded to)
... whether we like it or not, it IS (now) a conflict between Islam and modernity .... I can only see it in the British context where the sentiments had been lurking just under the surface for sometime .... it always comes back to economics for the 'pragmatic' but believe you me, no amount of economic 'stability' can fight with the mindset that there is an afterlife where 'things are simply eternally better' than 'this' life .... ask a suicider and you'd know! ... it ceases to be about economy alone ... herein lies the problem
.... just like 'nationalism' in the early part of the twentieth century, religious identity crises are the scourge of the twenty first
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