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The New Economic Order

Posted: Oct 19, 2008 Sun 09:37 pm     Views: 547    Interacts: 16

1. USA is a state insulated by sea and not vulnerable to conventional physical assaults. In pursuance of global domination, it has developed a very strong Naval Arm to project its military force anywhere in the world. This is not just Bush Doctrine, but also amply demonstrated in the past beginning WW II. Just take a look at the US Naval Doctrine, the issues of Missile Gap and Bomber Gap, Vietnam etc. US is a neo expansionist and neo imperial power.

2. USA has a strategic memory of exaggerated threat perception. If they have none, they create one just like the monster of Al Qaeda and not so capable and over projected Saddam Hussein. Their intelligence apparatus is efficient at doing this to legitimise interventions.

3. As early as 1945-48, USA had already drawn plans to dominate the world both economically and militarily. Breton Woods was to form the Economic Strategy while Containment manifesting in NATO, CENTO and SEATO, Korean War and Vietnam was the Military chapter. China first reacted through cooperation with India (occupying Tibet and allowing India to occupy Kashmir) and later extending influence to North Korea, Vietnam and Malaysia. Like any sovereign country, China had the right to react to the US containment inasmuch as USA did not have it to extend its power beyond its boundaries. If US intervention can be considered legitimate than so must China’s reaction.

My opinion is that the Breton Woods Order is in its last rites, and out of it will morph a new economic order dominated by the HEARTLAND (China, Russia, Malaysia, Indonesia, Iran, Pakistan and India). This new block is the most populous, technologically equally advanced, biggest consumer market of the world and with the capacity to sustain itself economically. Europe and Middle East will have to engage this block in their own interests. It will also be the strongest from a military point of view, though no physical conflicts are seen due to nuclear peace. The conflict therefore would shift to the periphery like Afghanistan, Pakistan, Myanmar, Iraq and ME. This is the area where USA-Europe will contest their proxy conflicts with the emerging order. Civil Nuclear Deal with India may delay, but will not prevent the inevitable.

The next century belongs to Asia, dominated by China.


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Posted by ijaz_gul on Monday October 20, 2008 03:18 am
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Posted by majumdar on Monday October 20, 2008 03:16 am
Well if you can take out some time, pls do explain about what exactly SA did wrong.

Thanks in advance.

Regards
Posted by ijaz_gul on Monday October 20, 2008 03:14 am
There is a verse in punjabi;

Chal chal ghoriay, Chal chal ghoriay,
Raat Bari Choti aye te ghal bari lamby aye

Keep moving cause its a very long tale'

Bravo

Posted by majumdar on Monday October 20, 2008 02:58 am
Ijaz sahib,

I am not too familiar with Pak economic management. Can you briefly touch upon what Mr Aziz did wrong with the Paki economy in the last few years. Any specific measures which hurt physical investment or competiteveness or business confidence, if you can single out.

I thought that Pakistan had invested well in physical infrastructure (roads, ports, telecom at least), although they had been rather negligent on power. And about HRD, less said the better

Regards
Posted by ijaz_gul on Monday October 20, 2008 02:42 am
Majumdar,
What Shaukat Aziz did was to dismantle the basics of Pakistan's economy, that had withstood sanctions for 13 years.
Despite this daylight robbery,Pakistan's economy is not linked like that of China or Europe to stock houses in USA or Europe. The effects of US Crash would have been negligible. Last time when it happened after the nuclear explosions, Pakistan's money market and people rallied (despite freezing of dollars)to keep the forex afloat.

The problem now is that the parallel economy has shrunk, irregular productive sector reduced to consumerism and confidence of money market shattered by the previous government. Add to it the Zardari factor causing shying away of investors, you have a situation that people have cashed their rupees against dollars, withdrawn dollars from the banks and either sent it abroad or kept it in safe houses. Right now, the people have over 50 Billion dollars liquidity, which they do not trust with the government.
If this problem is overcome, the economy will be back to B++
Posted by majumdar on Monday October 20, 2008 02:19 am
Ijaz sahib,

Thanks. I guess AAZ is putting all his eggs in US basket.

Tell me, with oil and food prices softening that should give Pakistan and its Govt a breather, no?

Regards
Posted by ijaz_gul on Monday October 20, 2008 02:16 am
China is not sure of what commitments Zardari has made to USA.
Posted by majumdar on Monday October 20, 2008 12:48 am
The conventional thinking in India is that Pakistan is a state which if of importance to China for the following reasons:

1. Unglofying India and USA, which are rivals of different degrees in their own ways.

2. For keeping watch on Islamists in Xinziang, a part of China and Central Asian -stans which are crucial for Chinese energy needs.

3. As a watchtower on the Gulf.

Now what are these issues which are so bedevilling Sino-Pak relations that China shud turn down Pak requests. I would be very gratified if you put it down explicitly and no gol-mol answers, pls.

Regards
Posted by ijaz_gul on Monday October 20, 2008 12:38 am
China was the main lifeline of Pakistan after the sanctions were imposed. For China Pakistan relations to beyond a certain point, certain issues need to be clarified.
After all, China is no Nawaz Sharif that can be foxed.
Posted by majumdar on Monday October 20, 2008 12:20 am
Ijaz sahib,

One more question for you. Why has cash rich China refused Pakistan's request for a bailout (if that is indeed the case?)

Regards
Posted by ijaz_gul on Monday October 20, 2008 12:03 am
thats what I have been advocating for the past 10-15 years.
Posted by majumdar on Sunday October 19, 2008 11:52 pm
Thanks for clarifying. It is much to be hoped that both Indians and Pakis would be able to put their mutual bickering (Kashmir) and more importantly the internal problems (Naxalism, Hindoo-Muslim in India, Jihadi Islam vs rest in Pakistan) and concentrate on economic development and consolidation of political and military power.

Regards
Posted by ijaz_gul on Sunday October 19, 2008 11:46 pm
Heartland for development and periphery of conflict.
Development is something we do ourselves.
Conflict on periphery is brought by outside actors.
Posted by majumdar on Sunday October 19, 2008 11:23 pm
Ijaz sahib,

OK, let me rephrase my question. Does Pakistan belong to the heartland of new Asia or does it belong to the periphery or BOTH?

Regards
Posted by ijaz_gul on Sunday October 19, 2008 11:13 pm
I am precise.
Posted by majumdar on Sunday October 19, 2008 10:29 pm
Ijaz sahib,

It may be a premature conclusion but then I am no soothsayer.

One thing is certain, many Asian countries -China, India, Indonesia, hopefully Pakistan as well will grow faster than the Western economies if not for any other reason that these are younger and less matured economies. So to that extent just becuase of the sheer number of people involved and the mathematics- the proportion fo Asian wealth as % of world wealth increase. Now the question is how fast and how does long this increase last, the faster and more sustained it is, naturally greater will be the relative strength of Asian influence. Chinese influence particularly is already felt in much of Lat Am, Africa and Asia too - as a source of funds, market (mainly energy and raw materials) and as a supplier of industrial goods, infrastructure and even technology.

As a patriotic Indian I hope India too can emulate China's growth story, although I suspect India's growth trajectory will be a fair bit lower than China's for some time.

One clarification I would want from you though. You have classified Pakistan as both a heartland state and as a part of the (disturbed) periphery. Can you be a bit more precise, please.

Regards

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