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To Whom It May Concern
Anonymous Indu-Pak Chowkies,
What others say to you is their business, what the silent majority has not uttered is their fault, but I will not mince words and here is what I must say:
It is strange that some address me as Tahir jee or mian (normally a sign of respect) and then continue with their pet hate routine of abusing Prophet Muhammad (peace on him) and Allah the Sole Creator of what we can and cannot see. Occasionally some of you ask me questions about the Qur'an and I answer them with references, not in the hope that you will all shift to the mosque with immediate effect but rather expecting that you would truly feel ashamed of the hurt you continue to cause to the Muslims who gather at ChowQ.
Are you folks the ministers of war and destruction, and will you act as avenging angels on behalf of the entire Indusia? Can you drive forward non-stop, without fixating at the rear-view mirror? What are you folks? Now that the colonialists have set you free, is your pet hate to mistrust Muslims living amongst you, and to deceive them on a daily basis with the assurance that you are their friends, neighbours, or caring colleagues at workplaces? I can see you shaking your heads in an affirmative. Do you indulge in all that while still maintaining hearts full of poison? This is a disease called hypocrisy, and the sooner you rid yourselves of it the better.
The most venous amongst you is Arjun who continues to hide behind ever-changing nicknames, dying many deaths at my hands right in the middle of the Chowk.
It is a different Chowk where you are getting what you truly deserve. I asked you politely, angrily, and in every possible way (except the naked 'sadhu' way) to stop abusing Muslims and all that is held dear by them. Is this how you really behave in Indusia—assuming of course that some evil interactors actually reside in one of the Andaman Islands?
And now that you stand as exposed as the naked ‘sadhus’ of Kumbh Mela, you cry foul, glorify shamelessness, eulogize asceticism, continue insulting Islam, and persist in preaching debauchery which you place on a higher platform than God’s revealed religion? How misguided are you, what nerves of aluminium you have, how Coca Cola runs in your veins, how wickedly excited you look throwing coconuts from the tree-tops! The source of your hatred is a compelled respect for the superior qualities of a Prophet called Muhammad (peace on him).
Chowk staff are not invisible (Safwan, Gini, Beena, Umair, Sohail and others), and remain answerable before God and the Muslim readership. Their IP addresses, URLs, phone numbers and other details are visible to those upon whom God has bestowed seeing eyes. No real man (or woman) will attempt to hide between the ones and zeros of technology.
Having taken a lunch-break during this battle, I have stopped under a banyan tree to knock some sense into the heads of all Islamphobes one more time.
Now dig deeper into yourselves or withdraw silently into the burrows.
Tahir
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Sir,
Laddoo was right. What you saw in Ayodhya are not the real renunciants. They were in fact infiltraters. the Sadhus of laddoo's description are not politically oriented. They are into the deep jungles of Haridwar and himalayas doing penance for the welfare of the mankind. They interact directly with your brain so that your language is no barrier for them. I have heard of these great sages through the horse's mouth, who spoke to a Malaysian gujarathi in his language, a foreigner in his country's language and a member of a minority society in his language. He also gave away the herbs needed by the gujarathi businessman for his ailments without being asked to.
Anyway, these things are not for cynics. "Ghode ke chashma pahen ne walon keliye nahin hai. You may treat this as a fairy tale.
Yes tahir mian, such things do happen. I still remember, when khalistan movement, aided and abetted by Pakistan was at its worst, a handsome looking young sikh chap was chosen for a special security check at the airport. Many people knew that guy, who was an industrialist. But that was to happen.
Around 12 to 15 years ago, when Indo-pak cricket was being played, there used to be aatishbaazi in the muslim mohallas when India lost to Pakistan. I used to hear myself when I used to visit the nearby muslim dominated Bhiwandi, bearded momeens winding up the discussions with a converged intelligence that the only way out was to merge with Pakistan.
One of my good muslim friends used to tell me, according koran, a muslim is bound by his holy scripture to remain wafadar to the country of his residence. I never could reconcile this submission with the actual happenings around.
We learned in history how Ramaraya, the uncle of the Great Krishna deva raya of Vijaya Nagara was killed by a muslim orphaned prince whom he adopted and looked after like his own son.
There used to be hindu-muslim riots customarily and sporadically in Maharashtra. When the 'notorious Shiva Sena' got strong, each riot was put down with brute force, every time muslims being the losers. Now in Maharashtra, hindu-muslim riots have not occurred after the babri masjid related ones.
Any frankestein is dangerous after he finishes the work assigned to him. These bajrang dal, this and that senas are all creating nuisance all over. But you can not deny the truth that the communal riots have become the thing of past after these so called 'god's armies' a la allah's army came into being.
Muslims have also begun to mingle with the local population after realising their follies, when they heard about excesses on the mohajirs in Pakistan and also realising that their 'final abode' viz pakistan is on its way to oblivion.
Hamidm may be a comic character but at times he hits the nail on the head. Did you read his interact where he said muslims thrive in a non muslim majority country while non-muslims perish in muslim majority country?
There is something wrong, tahir mian. Koran should have been accessible to a common muslim in a simpler and understandable form.
Atleast Doodh ka Doodh aur Pani ka pani ho jata.
'A letter by the dying' will follow too, written from the perspective of the other side.
"relentless' is not the word, 'patient' is!
Of course, like the slogan says: Bata by choice!
In in this case, if you don't make the right choice, its Bata all the way!
Think about that.
You are so relentless as that salesman who would never give up his effort of selling ice-boxes to the eskimoes.
Yo bitter mere dost,
Like your nick suggests, you are excessively bitter from outside but deceptively sweet from within.
You are an atheist by choice and nobody other than yourself has got any right to decide what is good or bad for you. But your thoughts are very humane.
Best of luck
5)Nadeem: You have a point which they will not be able to explain away. All they see is Tally-ban and GWOT. Keep it up, you're an able supporter of truth. Rememeber, brick by brick is the trick!
4) BSM: I've called people atheists but not KAFIRs like you have and only when they fit the description of the Qur'an. One's cursing soul (nafs-e-lawwamah) takes care of internal questions and answers which--if provided with spiritual nourishment--progresses on to become a contented soul (nafs-e-mutma'innah).
I don't know where you've been wasting your time. Avoid various organizations that are nothing but spiritual traps. Give yourself a fair chance with serious self-study and ocassional help from others more knowledgeable. You'll take away nothing from this world but good deeds. Strive and hope; don't saliivate over the rewards.
Your apology is only acceptable as long as you maintain the path prescribed (the way of those upon whom Thou hast bestowed Thy blessings, not of those who have been condemned [by Thee], nor of those who go astray!).
Making oneself likeable in the sight of the doomed majority must never be one's ideal.
3) Sunil: Dr. Sohail's clinic is over-crowded; everybody is suffering from the financial in addition to emigration blues these days!
2) Laddu: I have meditated! What is 'salah' after all? It is not 'showing our hindquarters to the world' as you put it. it means CORRECTION!
The reward is in the farthest corner of my brain; it does not dominate my thought. Not once have I spoken here of the pleasures of 'jannah'! The have-nots may continue to long for the promised rewards, I need to focus elsewhere:
2:24) ...then be conscious of the fire whose fuel is human beings and stones which awaits all who deny the truth!
[Stones: This evidently denotes all objects of worship to which men turn instead of God - their powerlessness and inefficacy being symbolized by the lifelessness of stones -
while the expression "human beings" stands here for human actions deviating from the way of truth (cf. Manar 1,197): the remembrance of all of which is bound to increase the sinner's suffering in the hereafter, referred to in the Qur'an as "hell".]
Shanti.
1) AKCheema: Always first from the bottom! What will and will not make a differnce in the end might unravel soon. Keep watching with your 3-D goggles on!
Laddu,
There you go again. your very so called renunciants were the ones who took the Shovel and Spades and got on top of the Babari Masjid and destroyed it Brick by Brick. And you are telling me "They have renounced hatred towards their enemies?? WTF?. They do not desire to establish some kingdom of any sorts in this world" Whoooaaaa?? why not come out and tell the truth that when it suits you they become the benevolent Brahmans and when it suits them they become agent of destruction. What an incredible Hypocrisy!!!!!!!!!
Am sorry if my rather undue comments/remarks/interacts have hurt your feelings.
I reacted for reasons known to all, including you. It was not in bad faith, I only reacted cuz I was myself hurt of what you have been accusing me for.
I have respect for all sorts of religions n people n communities. My hatred is ONLY against the exploitative Capitalist class and those who try to demonize my country (rather OUR country) that's all.
Baqi, I am sorry yaar, I wish I could find Reason in what you have been preaching so far. But try to understand this: people are not stupid, they have their lives and they CAN decide for themselves just like you DO, and it can be about anything: religion, country, whatever. However I now realize, who am I to advise you on such matters, right?
On my part let me tell you that, after going through a lot of religous stuff n practise n interpretations I chose Atheism FOR myself, not AGAINST anyone whatsoever.
So no hard feelings! If you don't like me, I won't interact with you, ok?? I feel that my interaction with you has pained you one way or the other. Though you won't apologize for what you have often accused me of, as I understand how Faith operates inside believers, please accept this as my apology!
P.S: And don't worry. I will always condemn hatemongers, be it an Arjun or a Wilder or a Hamid Gul.
Stop for a moment and ponder over the naked ascetic sadhus. Thee ar renunciants who have renounced every bit of their egoistical possessions and surrendered it to the almighty (Brahman). They have renounced hatred towards their enemies. They do not desire to establish some kingdom of any sorts in this world.
They even do not desire the pleasures of Jannah.
And they have found eternal bliss of Brahman within themselves.
Just sit down for a moment. Take a deep breath. And think if you were to renounce even the desire for jannah would your Islam - conceived as a survival code for the testing ground of this world to attain eternal pleasures of other worlds - survive??.
Think and meditate about it!!
... get some treatment Tahir sahib ... some of these delusions of grandeur are actually treatable (or at least containable)
as for you 'noting/recording' what I say ... you keep 'recording' either directly or indirectly via the 'farishtas' your alter-ego (aka allah mian) has appointed for the purpose ... makes very little difference to me ... just goes to show that YOU are the one with no life outside this website
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