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There is so much criticism of our “non-state actors� nowadays that you’d think that those against it have just discovered it. Let’s remember firstly that all countries use non-state actors for their purposes, especially the spokespersons of the international community, the US and the UK. It would be redundant to go over the list since everyone and their uncle knows what kind of horrible and hypocritical things the west has been up to for decades.
The fact of the matter is that the use of non-state actors is a reality and a part of the great game that no country can afford to ignore. Talk of abandoning the use of such instruments is only good for polite discussion in your living room with other arm-chair generals, or the editorial pages of a disconnected (from reality) newspaper such as Dawn, but they are not practically implementable on a national level.
The only questions that really matter revolve around the effectiveness of our instruments and whether they are actually being used for the benefit of our country. I would argue that our unofficial policy has great potential and there are sound reasons for this. At the moment we are constantly hearing about Pakistan breaking up, or some province separating from the federation. This is in stark contrast to our strategic depth policy which if evaluated objectively, actually has unofficially expanded our territory during the time we pushed it most. During the peak of Taliban rule, it could be argued that Afghanistan was an extension of Pakistan. Rather than the Durand Line, our border could rightly have been said to be at the Northern end of Afghanistan rather than the south.
In response to a question asked of Mullah about regarding Pakistanis who cross the border to join the Taliban, he said, “there is no nationality in the Taliban�. Now I am not arguing that we could become subservient to the Taliban, far from it. I am arguing that Pakistan can apply the Islamic ideology properly and there is absolutely no question that the Taliban and every other Islamic movement would have to respect the rule of Quran and Sunnah, i.e. Sharia. Before Kemalists argue that there are many different interpretations of Sharia…let me preemptively correct them by saying that differences in opinion are on minor issues and not fundamental issues such as murder, taxes, property ownership, minority rights, etc. Only fringe groups disagree on the fundamental aspects of Sharia…and such differences exist in every ideology.
Also preemptively in response to a predictable comment as to why on earth we would want Afghanistan- because after Afghanistan we can aim our eyes at the next country north. Also because the energy corridor, natural resources, and a common religion/ideology mean synergies, rationalization of resources, and of course, greater power on the international stage. Right now we’re worried about Indian embassies in Afghanistan, Karzai’s abusive comments towards us, and Brahamdagh Bugti’s terrorism against us. We one change in policy we can wash away all of these enemies of Pakistan and retake Afghanistan for good. India simply cannot compete with us in Afghanistan if we bring our Islamic ideology to bare on the situation. In fact, we can create more trouble for India within India’s own borders than they can ever imagine….they have more than 200 million Muslims and plenty of groups who’d be on our side. China may complain about it and would get alarmed, but would have to accept the situation for fear of destabilizing their Xinjiang province which would be on our borders. The reason Samuel Huntington wrote the ‘Clash of Civilizations’ is because he clearly understood the power of this ideology….do we?
Another preemptive strike I will undertake is at the issue of ethnic division. The argument will likely be that we cannot even unite among the current ethnic groups of Pakistan, let alone add more people "who probably hate us" to the mix. I will say that they don't hate Pakistanis, but the ruling class which they consider to be hypocrites and insincere. In the mosques or in Islamic organizations there is no ethnic division for the most part...these differences are however acute in the secular parties which are mostly formed on ethnic lines. It is only the Islamic ideology that has the potential to eliminate these divides. Furthermore, we would have to imagine something like a statue of liberty at the Karachi Port in that we must be willing to accept any and all regardless of language or color or even religion as long as they respect and embrace our ideology.
Not only do I believe that a proper implementation of the Islamic ideology would bring peace to Pakistan, but we could do something that is unthinkable today…expand our borders. Unofficially Afghanistan was part of Pakistan for over a decade. We could and should make our non-state actors official members of our armed forces, openly and wholeheartedly accept and proclaim the Islamic ideology and gradually absorb Afghanistan into Pakistan. Obviously the secular class will scream that this is ridiculous, unrealistic and will paint a different picture…but is it not a fact that almost all Central Asian countries have strong Islamic movements that seek a pan-Islamic state? In Uzbekistan the state is using the military to suppress Hizbut Tahrir, the largest Pan-Islamic party in the country. They are fearful because of swelling in the ranks and popularity of the Islamic movement which we would be foolish not to embrace….it meets all of our strategic objectives and is also in line with the founding of Pakistan.
Pakistan can play the critical role in the formation of a nuclear armed pan-Islamic state that starts in South Asia and expands into Central Asia. The Hindus wouldn’t dare attack us….it would be instant suicide for them. The US would threaten and do everything it could to destroy this process, but if it reached a critical mass, the US would put its tail between its legs and accept the new status quo for fear of a real crusade that actually would take the fight to them rather than to defenseless peasants in remote Afghani valleys.
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We all know that when America wants to bring democracy to your country, thats not what they really want. They want to steal your resources, keep your currency weak, control your government, get you to create trouble with your neighbors, fight proxy wars, and suppress any movement that seeks to change this US national interest. America has national interests.....bringing "democracy" to us is not one of them. Your premise to begin with is flawed.
There is absolutely no comparison. The US is spreading democracy the way Hitler was spreading Naziism. I'm sure the people of Iraq are thrilled with the democracy that the Americans have brought. And they did such a wonderful job everywhere else that we Pakistanis should be standing and waiting for them with a welcoming party. Secondly, it would be too long of an argument to explain why democracy ain't democracy, and secularism is tyranny, but i've written my views in my previous iLogs. Islam is the ideology of Afghanis, Uzbeks, Tajiks, and others of this region. The majority does want this. Of course that wouldn't prevent the liberals from being cheerleaders for the foreigners. Also, American democracy basically means being a puppet state with mostly white people ruling over you with the occasional token black guy and brown guy. It is not inclusive of everyone, it will not accept third world countries/citizens such as us on an equal basis...and we'll be told to melt in their pot. In the Islamic system, there is one state....there is no such thing as Pakistan or Afghanistan, let alone Pakistanis or Afghanis. Bilal Habshi was black, Salman Al Pharsi was Iranian, Imam Bokhari was from Afghanistan, etc......absolutely no discrimination whatsoever. I dont see how this could be Pakistani imperialism when the people who believe in it don't believe in nationalities.
I am just wondering why you can't see the parallels or at least acknowledge that what you are advocating is also a form of imperialism
If you could get over your complex over your skin color maybe you would understand what I'm saying rather than twist and turn in all kinds of odd directions that really make no sense. You're putting words in my mouth, making accusations and generally trying to play the role of spoiler but what is clear is that you feel that in a state with fair skinned people and people of your color, the fair skinned would rule. I'm sorry Majumdar but that's not part of the ideology and whatever non-representative incidents you are quoting are a waste of time to discuss. Visit an Islamic organization with an open mind before you make these kind of statements about us. And before you reply once again with yet another cynical and misleading comment, I'll pass and spend my time doing something more constructive than trying to talk to someone who has his fingers in both ears and is screaming "lalalalala".
Sudanese and BDs are Muslims too no. So why is the Islamic ideology not applicable to them. What you are advocating in this article is not a pan-Islamic state but Paki imperialism. And it is going to bite you in the rear (it already has). There is no way proud people like Iranians or Afghans or Turks wud accept the rule of folks they have been pillaging at will.
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"The Prophet (pbuh) was much fairer than South Asians"
How do you know? The tribe of Quraish are the same skin color as most Muhajirs to Pakistan from India. The description of the Prophet (SAW) is clearly that of a person with wheatish colored skin.
Regardless, it is not even relevant what color his skin was..but I pointed that out to explain to you that our ideology does not come with this built-in complex. The examples of Sudan and Bangladesh are far more complicated than you're making them out to be and don't have anything to do with the Islamic ideology but other factors which are running counter to the ideology. It would seem that you would already know that, so you're probably just trying to be cute. I don't think it serves the purpose of dialogue if you're going to play the role of the Indian spoiler in every discussion....it can actually be productive if you let it be.
The Prophet (pbuh) was much fairer than South Asians
to even discuss differences on this basis is considered to be highly taboo.
So why are brown skinned Sudanese Muslims killing black skinned Sudanese Muslims? And why were wheat eating Paki Muslims killing rice eating Paki Muslims in 1970-71?
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Please get over the inferiority complex. Our Prophet (SAW) was a dark skinned man and we don't suffer from that issue of having to depict everything in the form of a white man, and neither do we suffer from a class system in which Aryans are better than us. There are no such distinctions one way or another. If you ever visit an Islamic organization without bias, you'll notice that its always a united nations of ethnicities and nationalities....to even discuss differences on this basis is considered to be highly taboo.
Eleventyone is a mojo, just like you. Your Central Asian-South Asian caliphate can certainly happen but it will be under the leadership of fair skinned, good looking Pathans. Kala kaloota wannabe Arabs will have to be the servants of the ruling class.
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I assume you're indian because of the way you've asked the question. Its ridiculous to think of this as Pakistani imperialism, this is Islam....it does not belong to Pakistanis. Secondly, as far as such an Islamic nation is concerned, there is no Pakistan, no Saudi Arabia, no Bangladesh, No Yemen, No Iraq, No Palestine...we are all one. Before I get the typical response from our liberal crowd, or from one of the visiting Indians who really has nothing better to do, I will say that there are overwhelmingly powerful movements in all our countries that are pushing for this. If this were not true, neither the Americans would be so afraid of this possibility, nor would our governments be panicking at the mere rumor of a Khilafa movement.
A word about your analysis. There was an emerging Islamic block that was quite apparent in mid 70s. Unfortunately, it was put to rest quite conveniently by US and its allies. With an even extensive influence and penetration of these forces that is evident today, such a development seems a far cry especially when, thanks to Mullah and Talibaan, 'Islamization' is seen with a lot of skepticism in the evolving socio political landscape.
Need medical help huh...Really? What is the substance of your argument?
Is it a figment of my imagination that we have powerful Islamic movements both in our country and throughout the region I've outlined? Is strategic depth not the prevailing school of thought in our military? Did we not pretty much own Afghanistan during Taliban rule?
Unless you live under a rock you simply can't miss these facts. May I propose a response based on substance rather than....well I won't characterize it since I'm trying to be polite.
Thanks for responding...and so quickly. Why does it matter who wrote it? I'm not answering that on the grounds that it defeats the purpose of posting it, which is to discuss the ideas contained in it rather than who wrote it.
Also, don't mind at all discussing this with you as long as you're willing to check any Indian/non-Muslim bias at the door.
Is this your article or are you reproducing someone else's views?
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