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Beyond Food, Clothing, Shelter in India, Pakistan
There is nothing more basic in terms of human necessities than the adequate availability of roti, kapra aur makaan. Going beyond these bare essentials of food, clothing and housing, one can add sanitation, health care and education. Let's examine how the two biggest nations in South Asia are coping with such fundamental necessities of their population:
1. Food:
Food is the most basic necessity of all. In terms of being better fed, Pakistanis consume significantly more dairy products, sugar, wheat, meat, eggs and poultry on a per capita basis than Indians, according to FAO data. Average Pakistani gets about 50% of daily calories from non-food-grain sources versus 33% for average Indians.
There is widespread h unger and malnutrition in all parts of India. India ranks 66th on the 2008 Global Hunger Index of 88 countries while Pakistan is slightly better at 61 and Bangladesh slightly worse at 70. The first India State Hunger Index (Ishi) report in 2008 found that Madhya Pradesh had the most severe level of hunger in India, comparable to Chad and Ethiopia. Four states — Punjab, Kerala, Haryana and Assam — fell in the 'serious' category. "Affluent" Gujarat, 13th on the Indian list is below Haiti, ranked 69. The authors said India's poor performance was primarily due to its relatively high levels of child malnutrition and under-nourishment resulting from calorie deficient diets.
India has recently been described as a "nutriti onal weakling" by a British report.
2. Clothing:
According to Wer ner International, Pakistan's per capita consumption of textile fibers is about 4 Kg versus 2.8 Kg for India. Global average is 6.8 Kg and the industrialized countries' average consumption is 17 Kg per person per per year.
3. Shelter:
There is widespread homelessness in India with the urgent need for 72 million housing units. Pakistan, too, has a housing crisis and needs about 7 million additional housing units, according to the data presented at the World Bank Regional Conference on Housing last year.
4. Sanitation:
India might be an emerging economic power, but it is way behind Pakistan, Bangladesh and even Afghanistan in providing basic sanitation facilities, a key reason behind the death of 2.1 million children under five in the country.
Lizette Burgers, chief of water and environment sanitation of the Unicef, recently said India is making progress in providing sanitation but it lags behind most of the other countries in South Asia. A former Indian minister Mr Raghuvansh Prasad Singh told the BBC that more than 65% of India's rural population defecated in the open, along roadsides, railway tracks and fields, generating huge amounts of excrement every day.
As an example, let's compare India's largest slum Dharavi with Pakistan's Orangi Town. The fact is that Orangi is nothing like Dharavi in terms of the quality of its housing or the services available to its residents. While Dharavi has only one toilet per 1440 residents and most of its residents use Mahim Creek, a local river, for urination and defecation, Orangi has an elaborate sanitation system built by its citizens. Under Orangi Pilot Project's guidance, between 1981 and 1993 Orangi residents installed sewers serving 72,070 of 94,122 houses. To achieve this, community members spent more than US$2 million of their own money, and OPP invested about US$150,000 in research and extension of new technologies. Orangi pilot project has been admired widely for its work with urban poor.
5. Healthcare:
A basic indicator of healthcare is access to physicians. There are 80 doctors per 100,000 population in Pakistan versus 60 in India, according to the World Health Organization. For comparison with the developed world, the US and Europe have over 250 physicians per 100,000 people. UNDP recently reported that life expectancy at birth in Pakistan is 66.2 years versus India's 63.4 years.
6. Education:
India's literacy rate of 61% is well ahead of Pakistan's 50% rate. In higher education, six Indian universities have made the list of the top 400 universities published by Times Higher Education Supplement this year. Only one Pakistani university was considered worthy of such honor.
Pakistan has consistently scored lower on the HDI sub-index on education than its overall HDI index. It is obvious from the UNDP report and other sources that Pakistan's dismal record in enrolling and educating its young people, pa rticularly girls, stands in the way of any significant positive development in the nation. The recent announcement of a new education policy that calls for more than doubling the education spending from about 3% to 7% of GDP is a step in the right direction. However, money alone will not solve the deep-seated problems of poor access to education, rampant corruption and the ghost schools that only exist on paper, that have simply lined the pockets of corrupt politicians and officials. Any additional money allocated must be part of a broader push for transparent and effective delivery of useful education to save the people from the curses of poverty, ignorance and extremism which are seriously hurting the nation.
In spite of deficiency in education, how is it that Pakistanis can maintain better standards of living in terms of food, clothing, shelter, sanitation and healthcare than their neighbor India? The answer can be found in the fact that their real per capita incomes are actually higher than reported by various agencies. The most recent real per capita income data was calculated and reported by Asian Development Bank based on a detailed study of a list of around 800 household and nonhousehold products in 2005 and early 2006 to compare real purchasing power for ADB's trans-national income comparison program (ICP). The ICP concluded that Pakistan had the highest per capita income at HK$ 13,528 among the largest nations in South Asia. It reported India’s per capita as HK $12,090.
Conclusion:
Clearly, the status of an average Indian is not only worse than an average Pakistani's, the abject deprivation in India is comparable to the nations in sub-Saharan Africa. However, Pakistanis do need to worry about their woefully inadequate state of education and literacy. They must find a way to develop the skills, grow the economy and create opportunities for their growing young population. As Pakistan's former finance minister Salman Shah recently told the wall Street Journal, "Pakistan has to be part of globalization or you end up with Talibanization. Until we put these (Pakistan's) young people into industrialization and services, and off-farm work, they will drift into this negative extremism; there is nothing worse than not having a job." Unless Pakistanis heed Shah's advice, there is real danger that Pakistan will slip into total chaos and violence, endangering the entire nation in the foreseeable future.
To summarize, this post has discussed six different indicators of life in any nation: Availability of food, clothing, shelter, sanitation, health care and education. The published data that I have shared with you shows that PAKISTAN IS AHEAD OF INDIA IN FIVE OF THE SIX INDICATORS. In education, however, Pakistan is marginally behind India, which itself suffers from low levels of literacy and wi de gender gap resulting in very poor showing on the UNDP HDI this year, and in prior years. In fact, India dropped six places on the world rankings from a low of 128 to an even lower 134. Unfortunately, Pakistan has also slipped three ranks on the list, down from 138 to 141, mainly due to its deficit in literacy and gender discrimination.
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Posted by RiazHaq on
Saturday October 31, 2009 09:22 pm
Here's a NY Times report today about growing Maoist insurgency in India:
India’s Maoist rebels are now present in 20 states and have evolved into a potent and lethal insurgency. In the last four years, the Maoists have killed more than 900 Indian security officers, a figure almost as high as the more than 1,100 members of the coalition forces killed in Afghanistan during the same period.
If the Maoists were once dismissed as a ragtag band of outdated ideologues, Indian leaders are now preparing to deploy nearly 70,000 paramilitary officers for a prolonged counterinsurgency campaign to hunt down the guerrillas in some of the country’s most rugged, isolated terrain.
For India, the widening Maoist insurgency is a moment of reckoning for the country’s democracy and has ignited a sharp debate about where it has failed. In the past, India has tamed some secessionist movements by coaxing rebel groups into the country’s big-tent political process. The Maoists, however, do not want to secede or be absorbed. Their goal is to topple the system.
Once considered Robin Hood figures, the Maoists claim to represent the dispossessed of Indian society, particularly the indigenous tribal groups, who suffer some of the country’s highest rates of poverty, illiteracy and infant mortality. Many intellectuals and even some politicians once sympathized with their cause, but the growing Maoist violence has forced a wrenching reconsideration of whether they can still be tolerated.
“The root of this is dispossession and deprivation,” said Ramachandra Guha, a prominent historian based in Bangalore. “The Maoists are an ugly manifestation of this. This is a serious problem that is not going to disappear.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/01/world/asia/01maoist.html?_r=1
India’s Maoist rebels are now present in 20 states and have evolved into a potent and lethal insurgency. In the last four years, the Maoists have killed more than 900 Indian security officers, a figure almost as high as the more than 1,100 members of the coalition forces killed in Afghanistan during the same period.
If the Maoists were once dismissed as a ragtag band of outdated ideologues, Indian leaders are now preparing to deploy nearly 70,000 paramilitary officers for a prolonged counterinsurgency campaign to hunt down the guerrillas in some of the country’s most rugged, isolated terrain.
For India, the widening Maoist insurgency is a moment of reckoning for the country’s democracy and has ignited a sharp debate about where it has failed. In the past, India has tamed some secessionist movements by coaxing rebel groups into the country’s big-tent political process. The Maoists, however, do not want to secede or be absorbed. Their goal is to topple the system.
Once considered Robin Hood figures, the Maoists claim to represent the dispossessed of Indian society, particularly the indigenous tribal groups, who suffer some of the country’s highest rates of poverty, illiteracy and infant mortality. Many intellectuals and even some politicians once sympathized with their cause, but the growing Maoist violence has forced a wrenching reconsideration of whether they can still be tolerated.
“The root of this is dispossession and deprivation,” said Ramachandra Guha, a prominent historian based in Bangalore. “The Maoists are an ugly manifestation of this. This is a serious problem that is not going to disappear.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/01/world/asia/01maoist.html?_r=1
Posted by RiazHaq on
Wednesday October 28, 2009 09:57 am
Here is a story by Rahimullah Yusufzai, a respected journalist who recently visited in India and wrote in the News as follows:
"I fear there will be a bloody revolution in India," a retired Indian military officer remarked to this writer and other guests during a recent visit to New Delhi. It was shocking to hear the comment from a soldier, in a country that supposedly had given a voice to its huge population and was believed to be all-inclusive.
It is obvious that India's much-praised democracy hasn't brought any real change in the lives of millions of Indians. That some of the poorest men and women are now up in arms in parts of India is evidence enough that democratically elected governments must do more to provide rights and justice to the rural poor and ensure even-handed development in different parts of the country.
The Naxalite violence in India has caused pain to most thinking Indians. For them it is a matter of anguish that a growing number of Indians are disillusioned with their country's democracy and see no hope of benefiting from India's steady economic progress. They have picked up the gun to fight for their rights.
The Maoist-linked violence is spreading and engulfing new places. The vast region affected by the insurgency include the states of Chhattisgarh, Jharkhand, Bihar and West Bengal and runs south through Orissa, Maharashtra and Andhra Pradesh. It is usually called the "Red Corridor" because the leadership for the rebels is provided by communist cadres labelled as Maoists. The Communist Party of India (Marxists-Leninists), despite suffering splits, is still the standard-bearer of the rebels.
According to reports in the Indian media, more than 220 districts in 20 or so states are now affected by Maoist-linked violence. Indian intelligence agencies believe the movement has at its disposal 20,000 armed cadres and over 50,000 regular members. Apart from the rural poor, indigenous tribes such as the Girijans in Andhra Pradesh and Santhals in West Bengal have been flocking to the Naxalite movement. The movement has appeal for the dispossessed and the under-privileged. In the words of its present leader, Mupalla Laxman Rao, in hiding somewhere in eastern India and better known as Ganapathi, his party's influence has grown stronger and it was now the only genuine alternative before the people of India.
The Naxalite movement began as a peasants' uprising in May 1969 in the village of Naxalbari in West Bengal. It was initially led by 49-year-old Charu Mazumdar and its aim was to seize power through an agrarian revolution by overthrowing the feudal order. Mazumdar died in police custody 12 days after his arrest in Calcutta in 1972 and became a hero to Maoist cadres that have increased in number and strength over the years despite splits in the movement. The Naxalite insurgency has sprouted after every defeat and is now stronger than ever.
India's share of the world's poorest people has increased to 39 percent from 25 percent in 1980. In comparison, the Below Poverty Line population worldwide has decreased from 1,470 million to 970 million. There are reportedly 301 million Indians below the poverty line, just 19 million less than in 1983. The Human Development Report by the UN has been ranking India among the lowest 60 or 65 countries in the list of 193 nations that are part of the annual study. India's poor performance on this score was in spite of the around nine percent growth rate in its GDP. There are reports in the media about farmers committing suicide or selling their wives to pay mounting debts. Though the recorded figures of such cases aren't high in a big country such as India with 1.17 billion people, it still indicates the desperate state of certain communities.
"I fear there will be a bloody revolution in India," a retired Indian military officer remarked to this writer and other guests during a recent visit to New Delhi. It was shocking to hear the comment from a soldier, in a country that supposedly had given a voice to its huge population and was believed to be all-inclusive.
It is obvious that India's much-praised democracy hasn't brought any real change in the lives of millions of Indians. That some of the poorest men and women are now up in arms in parts of India is evidence enough that democratically elected governments must do more to provide rights and justice to the rural poor and ensure even-handed development in different parts of the country.
The Naxalite violence in India has caused pain to most thinking Indians. For them it is a matter of anguish that a growing number of Indians are disillusioned with their country's democracy and see no hope of benefiting from India's steady economic progress. They have picked up the gun to fight for their rights.
The Maoist-linked violence is spreading and engulfing new places. The vast region affected by the insurgency include the states of Chhattisgarh, Jharkhand, Bihar and West Bengal and runs south through Orissa, Maharashtra and Andhra Pradesh. It is usually called the "Red Corridor" because the leadership for the rebels is provided by communist cadres labelled as Maoists. The Communist Party of India (Marxists-Leninists), despite suffering splits, is still the standard-bearer of the rebels.
According to reports in the Indian media, more than 220 districts in 20 or so states are now affected by Maoist-linked violence. Indian intelligence agencies believe the movement has at its disposal 20,000 armed cadres and over 50,000 regular members. Apart from the rural poor, indigenous tribes such as the Girijans in Andhra Pradesh and Santhals in West Bengal have been flocking to the Naxalite movement. The movement has appeal for the dispossessed and the under-privileged. In the words of its present leader, Mupalla Laxman Rao, in hiding somewhere in eastern India and better known as Ganapathi, his party's influence has grown stronger and it was now the only genuine alternative before the people of India.
The Naxalite movement began as a peasants' uprising in May 1969 in the village of Naxalbari in West Bengal. It was initially led by 49-year-old Charu Mazumdar and its aim was to seize power through an agrarian revolution by overthrowing the feudal order. Mazumdar died in police custody 12 days after his arrest in Calcutta in 1972 and became a hero to Maoist cadres that have increased in number and strength over the years despite splits in the movement. The Naxalite insurgency has sprouted after every defeat and is now stronger than ever.
India's share of the world's poorest people has increased to 39 percent from 25 percent in 1980. In comparison, the Below Poverty Line population worldwide has decreased from 1,470 million to 970 million. There are reportedly 301 million Indians below the poverty line, just 19 million less than in 1983. The Human Development Report by the UN has been ranking India among the lowest 60 or 65 countries in the list of 193 nations that are part of the annual study. India's poor performance on this score was in spite of the around nine percent growth rate in its GDP. There are reports in the media about farmers committing suicide or selling their wives to pay mounting debts. Though the recorded figures of such cases aren't high in a big country such as India with 1.17 billion people, it still indicates the desperate state of certain communities.
Posted by RiazHaq on
Thursday October 22, 2009 05:06 pm
Here's a story about the tale of two Indias on the BBC South Asia website:
Bangalore is an Indian city where hi-tech and crippling poverty live side by side.
As the rate of development in Bangalore gathers pace, some fear that the many impoverished communities that also call the city home may be left behind.
Since the liberalization of the Indian economy in the 1990s, the Indian tech sector has expanded rapidly.
The major players - including Microsoft, Infosys, Cisco and Google - exist in enormous "tech parks" crammed with tall, shiny office buildings.
Meanwhile on the same block, piles of rotting rubbish, beggars and stray dogs surround traffic that is heavy with pollution and often locked in a loud and aggressive jam.
Contrast in this city is not new; the levels of poverty are growing faster than the tech industry as migrant workers from other states join the population to aid the development.
There are concerns that this impoverished population could be left behind in the city of the future, unless big businesses acknowledge that the local infrastructure is under a great deal of pressure.
Ethical business offline
Many foreign businesses have set up outsourcing hubs in Bangalore and beyond - India is a leader in this type of business.
Meanwhile non-governmental organizations and aid workers struggle to support the poorer aspects of society, and many believe that big businesses could have a more influential hand in helping those who are not doing so well out of the tech boom.
Azim Premji is the chairman of Wipro, one of the largest companies in India. He recognized the issues of his local communities and created the Azim Premji foundation.
It is a separate venture to his corporation and privately funded. It addresses methods of education in the hope that supporting youth will mean creating a better society in the long run.
Bangalore is an Indian city where hi-tech and crippling poverty live side by side.
As the rate of development in Bangalore gathers pace, some fear that the many impoverished communities that also call the city home may be left behind.
Since the liberalization of the Indian economy in the 1990s, the Indian tech sector has expanded rapidly.
The major players - including Microsoft, Infosys, Cisco and Google - exist in enormous "tech parks" crammed with tall, shiny office buildings.
Meanwhile on the same block, piles of rotting rubbish, beggars and stray dogs surround traffic that is heavy with pollution and often locked in a loud and aggressive jam.
Contrast in this city is not new; the levels of poverty are growing faster than the tech industry as migrant workers from other states join the population to aid the development.
There are concerns that this impoverished population could be left behind in the city of the future, unless big businesses acknowledge that the local infrastructure is under a great deal of pressure.
Ethical business offline
Many foreign businesses have set up outsourcing hubs in Bangalore and beyond - India is a leader in this type of business.
Meanwhile non-governmental organizations and aid workers struggle to support the poorer aspects of society, and many believe that big businesses could have a more influential hand in helping those who are not doing so well out of the tech boom.
Azim Premji is the chairman of Wipro, one of the largest companies in India. He recognized the issues of his local communities and created the Azim Premji foundation.
It is a separate venture to his corporation and privately funded. It addresses methods of education in the hope that supporting youth will mean creating a better society in the long run.
Posted by meenug on
Tuesday October 20, 2009 10:54 pm
This beggar issue is SEALED - million beggars in Karachi - so lets not go to n fro on this.....
Unless you prove that Any indian metro has more than a million beggars!
On beggars issue you are a looser, and the jury is out, who also see how people are dying of stampede for simple atta (flour) bags in Pakistan, something never happened in India.
Asia´s Biggest slum ORANGI in Pakistan should have convinced you (along with above facts) that Pakistan poor, very poor, hence beggars (there) ought to be.....
Being in a denial mode you only look like a cretin.
A cretin is one who acts like one.
Unless you prove that Any indian metro has more than a million beggars!
On beggars issue you are a looser, and the jury is out, who also see how people are dying of stampede for simple atta (flour) bags in Pakistan, something never happened in India.
Asia´s Biggest slum ORANGI in Pakistan should have convinced you (along with above facts) that Pakistan poor, very poor, hence beggars (there) ought to be.....
Being in a denial mode you only look like a cretin.
A cretin is one who acts like one.
Posted by RiazHaq on
Monday October 19, 2009 08:42 am
Mean-Ug:
On that same Taindian website you quote, here are additional headline links about beggary in India that you conveniently ignored:
"The minister launched the mobile courts to fast track cases against beggars, whose population in Delhi is estimated at over 100,000. Ten more mobile courts will be introduced soon. http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/health/delhi-to-banish-beggars-ahead-of-comm onwealth-games_100241295.html
Beggary is Booming in Bangalore. http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/health/in-bangalore-beggary-is-booming-profe ssion_100205826.html
On that same Taindian website you quote, here are additional headline links about beggary in India that you conveniently ignored:
"The minister launched the mobile courts to fast track cases against beggars, whose population in Delhi is estimated at over 100,000. Ten more mobile courts will be introduced soon. http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/health/delhi-to-banish-beggars-ahead-of-comm onwealth-games_100241295.html
Beggary is Booming in Bangalore. http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/health/in-bangalore-beggary-is-booming-profe ssion_100205826.html
Posted by RiazHaq on
Monday October 19, 2009 08:35 am
Meenug,
The data you quote about Karachi is one man's opinion, not based on a real census, and not based on any comparison with Indian cities.
In the absence of any scientifically collected data, the best way to compare Indian with Pakistani beggar population is by visiting major cities in both nations and experience it, as William Dalrymple did, as I have done, and others have done, and reported that the problem of beggars in India is significantly worse than in Pakistan.
To refresh your memory, let me quote William Dalrymple again:
"On the ground, of course, the reality is different and first-time visitors to Pakistan are almost always surprised by the country's visible prosperity. There is far less poverty on show in Pakistan than in India, fewer beggars, and much less desperation. In many ways the infrastructure of Pakistan is much more advanced: there are better roads and airports, and more reliable electricity. Middle-class Pakistani houses are often bigger and better appointed than their equivalents in India."
The data you quote about Karachi is one man's opinion, not based on a real census, and not based on any comparison with Indian cities.
In the absence of any scientifically collected data, the best way to compare Indian with Pakistani beggar population is by visiting major cities in both nations and experience it, as William Dalrymple did, as I have done, and others have done, and reported that the problem of beggars in India is significantly worse than in Pakistan.
To refresh your memory, let me quote William Dalrymple again:
"On the ground, of course, the reality is different and first-time visitors to Pakistan are almost always surprised by the country's visible prosperity. There is far less poverty on show in Pakistan than in India, fewer beggars, and much less desperation. In many ways the infrastructure of Pakistan is much more advanced: there are better roads and airports, and more reliable electricity. Middle-class Pakistani houses are often bigger and better appointed than their equivalents in India."
Posted by meenug on
Monday October 19, 2009 06:25 am
##### Delhi, with its 58000 beggars, is usually described as the "Beggars Capital" of the world. #####
And Karachi is known as beggars paradise with million beggars.LOL
EXCERPT:
Initiator Human Development Foundation (IHDF) President Rana Asif Habib said that normally there are around 100,000 beggars in the city but during Ramazan, the average number of beggars surpasses one million.
According to the Ansar Burney Welfare Trust (ABWT) Vice Chairman Sarim Burney, beggary has become an international issue today.
Can you imagine Pakistan´s one city comprises of million beggars, how about Islamabad, peshawar, rawalpindi, Lawohre, Quetta and other stuff? my gally karachi with million beggars, ITS A WORLD RECORD!
http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/india-news/beggars-paradise-karac hi-receives-one-million-beggars-during-ramzan_10093895.html
And Karachi is known as beggars paradise with million beggars.LOL
EXCERPT:
Initiator Human Development Foundation (IHDF) President Rana Asif Habib said that normally there are around 100,000 beggars in the city but during Ramazan, the average number of beggars surpasses one million.
According to the Ansar Burney Welfare Trust (ABWT) Vice Chairman Sarim Burney, beggary has become an international issue today.
Can you imagine Pakistan´s one city comprises of million beggars, how about Islamabad, peshawar, rawalpindi, Lawohre, Quetta and other stuff? my gally karachi with million beggars, ITS A WORLD RECORD!
http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/india-news/beggars-paradise-karac hi-receives-one-million-beggars-during-ramzan_10093895.html
Posted by RiazHaq on
Sunday October 18, 2009 11:57 pm
India is called "A Nation of Beggars and Delhi, with its 58000 beggars, is usually described as the "Beggars Capital" of the world.
Read the following links:
http://www.voanews.com/english/archive/2009-02/2009-02-20-voa32.cfm?CF ID=312688222&CFTOKEN=40875446&jsessionid=de30c2b6493c156a12e52e314332716 14f54
http://www.chowk.com/articles/4772
Read the following links:
http://www.voanews.com/english/archive/2009-02/2009-02-20-voa32.cfm?CF ID=312688222&CFTOKEN=40875446&jsessionid=de30c2b6493c156a12e52e314332716 14f54
http://www.chowk.com/articles/4772
Posted by meenug on
Sunday October 18, 2009 11:28 pm
I say Pakistan has higher per capita number of beggers.
QUOTE:
its such a complex issue in pakistan. and there seem to be an increase in the number of beggars u see on the roads n corners of the streets......
http://www.cssforum.com.pk/off-topic-discussions/gup-shup-jokes -fun-stuff/1251-beggars-pakistan.html
Your link is non functional......
Beggars in Pakistan use cell phones to beg ......LOL
Rawalpindi: Beggars in Pakistan are reportedly using mobile phones to acquire hefty alms in the name of religion.
As a matter of routine, they reportedly send messages asking for a credit of Rs 10-100, offering in return a place in paradise.
Muhammad Usman, a businessman, said that he received almost 10 messages a day from a beggar.
PAKISTAN HAS HIGH TECH BEGGERS NOW.....LOL
http://www.defence.pk/forums/members-club/11272-beggars-pakistan- use-cell-phones-beg.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfgVeLXC6B8&featu re=related
QUOTE: Pakistan is a international begger.
Yes it is, Last month nly it asked IMF money 2 bail out its crashing economy. IMF given 7 b$, but nw its unable 2 repay d instalments.Now its asking money 2 china given dat US has cut down its aid. nd Pak's forex has cum down 2 3b $ if u can bliev.. I hope soon it comes 2 negative and it bcomes bankrupt. Looser Begger Pakistanis...
http://qna.indiatimes.com/index.php?ref=permalinkquestion&q uestion_id=63019
World: South Asia
The rat children of Pakistan LOL
Richard Galpin reports from Pakistan where, according to human rights groups, hundreds of young children are being exploited because of an ancient fertility tradition that leaves many children deformed and sold into begging.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/122670.stm
‘Beggars can’t be choosers’!
Dr Samiullah Koreshi
http://pakobserver.net/200910/19/Articles01.asp
Pak look like an ‘international beggar’: PML-N
It is a shame that the government is making Pakistan look like an international beggar,” he added.
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/zardari-govt-making-pak-look-like-an -international-beggar-pmln/522426/
You have lot of catch up to do on this namby pamby chacha LOL
QUOTE:
its such a complex issue in pakistan. and there seem to be an increase in the number of beggars u see on the roads n corners of the streets......
http://www.cssforum.com.pk/off-topic-discussions/gup-shup-jokes -fun-stuff/1251-beggars-pakistan.html
Your link is non functional......
Beggars in Pakistan use cell phones to beg ......LOL
Rawalpindi: Beggars in Pakistan are reportedly using mobile phones to acquire hefty alms in the name of religion.
As a matter of routine, they reportedly send messages asking for a credit of Rs 10-100, offering in return a place in paradise.
Muhammad Usman, a businessman, said that he received almost 10 messages a day from a beggar.
PAKISTAN HAS HIGH TECH BEGGERS NOW.....LOL
http://www.defence.pk/forums/members-club/11272-beggars-pakistan- use-cell-phones-beg.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfgVeLXC6B8&featu re=related
QUOTE: Pakistan is a international begger.
Yes it is, Last month nly it asked IMF money 2 bail out its crashing economy. IMF given 7 b$, but nw its unable 2 repay d instalments.Now its asking money 2 china given dat US has cut down its aid. nd Pak's forex has cum down 2 3b $ if u can bliev.. I hope soon it comes 2 negative and it bcomes bankrupt. Looser Begger Pakistanis...
http://qna.indiatimes.com/index.php?ref=permalinkquestion&q uestion_id=63019
World: South Asia
The rat children of Pakistan LOL
Richard Galpin reports from Pakistan where, according to human rights groups, hundreds of young children are being exploited because of an ancient fertility tradition that leaves many children deformed and sold into begging.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/122670.stm
‘Beggars can’t be choosers’!
Dr Samiullah Koreshi
http://pakobserver.net/200910/19/Articles01.asp
Pak look like an ‘international beggar’: PML-N
It is a shame that the government is making Pakistan look like an international beggar,” he added.
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/zardari-govt-making-pak-look-like-an -international-beggar-pmln/522426/
You have lot of catch up to do on this namby pamby chacha LOL
Posted by RiazHaq on
Sunday October 18, 2009 10:43 am
On Yaho o Answers, here's the "best answer" to the question: "Are beggars counted in Indian population census?":
"of course they r counted. y do u ask? aren't they humans? n by the way im an indian. n if u wudnt count them our population wud be down by about 10 million."
http://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071013072453A AzJpxg
"of course they r counted. y do u ask? aren't they humans? n by the way im an indian. n if u wudnt count them our population wud be down by about 10 million."
http://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071013072453A AzJpxg
Posted by RiazHaq on
Sunday October 18, 2009 10:34 am
No one needs any data to prove that India is full of beggars. They are countless and very obvious. They are everywhere. Here's how British Writer William Dalrymple described his experience:
"On the ground, of course, the reality is different and first-time visitors to Pakistan are almost always surprised by the country's visible prosperity. There is far less poverty on show in Pakistan than in India, fewer beggars, and much less desperation. In many ways the infrastructure of Pakistan is much more advanced: there are better roads and airports, and more reliable electricity. Middle-class Pakistani houses are often bigger and better appointed than their equivalents in India."
"On the ground, of course, the reality is different and first-time visitors to Pakistan are almost always surprised by the country's visible prosperity. There is far less poverty on show in Pakistan than in India, fewer beggars, and much less desperation. In many ways the infrastructure of Pakistan is much more advanced: there are better roads and airports, and more reliable electricity. Middle-class Pakistani houses are often bigger and better appointed than their equivalents in India."
Posted by meenug on
Sunday October 18, 2009 06:25 am
####India has more beggars per sq mile than any other country in the world####
Prove your false and outrageous claims with statictics - OR admit you are a lier, any of the two should suffice!
I am all ears....
Prove your false and outrageous claims with statictics - OR admit you are a lier, any of the two should suffice!
I am all ears....
Posted by RiazHaq on
Saturday October 17, 2009 10:19 pm
meenug: "India is not a beggar nation like Pakistan. Period."
India has more beggars per sq mile than any other country in the world, including Pakistan. So you get to wear this crown.
And Delhi is going to be inundated with beggars, as the Commonwealth games approach, according to media reports.
India has more beggars per sq mile than any other country in the world, including Pakistan. So you get to wear this crown.
And Delhi is going to be inundated with beggars, as the Commonwealth games approach, according to media reports.
Posted by meenug on
Friday October 16, 2009 12:04 pm
####It says hunger exists in India not because there is insufficient food#####
So Its not the wherewithal as is the case with pakistan, but it is system which is flawed.
India is not a begger nation like Pakistan. Period.
We borrow we pay on time - unlke Pakistan who is pants down.
So Its not the wherewithal as is the case with pakistan, but it is system which is flawed.
India is not a begger nation like Pakistan. Period.
We borrow we pay on time - unlke Pakistan who is pants down.
Posted by meenug on
Friday October 16, 2009 11:57 am
####India's failures:####
Rephrase it as Pakistani failure - India is not under default!
The fact is that your country is a net debtor, who has got billions of dollars loan from everywhere, they did not leave a tiny singapore for a mere 80 million loan, so much for Pakistan´s desperation to get hold of funds from overseas....
So of course, when a country, which lives beyonds its means and has no intention to pay, will always live good. This hefty sum that is owed by Pakistan is still not paid ( it was rescheduled ) so the money has been absorbed by its people, so they will live better than any other responsible nation who know they have to pay........
But with Pakistan - it says payable when able!
Hence no country is helping and coming forward to finance because they have seen the past pattern of squandering the money, and not even able to pay the interest. This time thier all weather friend china did not help either. LOL
Tough times ahead kafer hater, namby pamby, google chacha, brace up......
Rephrase it as Pakistani failure - India is not under default!
The fact is that your country is a net debtor, who has got billions of dollars loan from everywhere, they did not leave a tiny singapore for a mere 80 million loan, so much for Pakistan´s desperation to get hold of funds from overseas....
So of course, when a country, which lives beyonds its means and has no intention to pay, will always live good. This hefty sum that is owed by Pakistan is still not paid ( it was rescheduled ) so the money has been absorbed by its people, so they will live better than any other responsible nation who know they have to pay........
But with Pakistan - it says payable when able!
Hence no country is helping and coming forward to finance because they have seen the past pattern of squandering the money, and not even able to pay the interest. This time thier all weather friend china did not help either. LOL
Tough times ahead kafer hater, namby pamby, google chacha, brace up......
Posted by RiazHaq on
Friday October 16, 2009 10:03 am
Here's a Hunger Report on World Food Day that criticizes India's failures:
But the report criticizes economically liberal India where, it says, 30 million people have been added to the ranks of the hungry since the mid-1990s and 46% of children are underweight.
It says hunger exists in India not because there is insufficient food, but because people cannot access it, and that the exploitation of natural resources has led to "horrific displacements" of people, pushing many into poverty.
"When people are already on the brink of starvation this is simply unacceptable," it says.
The report said some progress had been made, with a scheme to protect rural employment in the case of drought, but it needed to be implemented more effectively.
Neighbouring Bangladesh is praised for reducing the number of chronically food-insecure people from 40 million to 27 million in the past 10 years and for improving childhood nutrition in the past two decades.
But the report criticizes economically liberal India where, it says, 30 million people have been added to the ranks of the hungry since the mid-1990s and 46% of children are underweight.
It says hunger exists in India not because there is insufficient food, but because people cannot access it, and that the exploitation of natural resources has led to "horrific displacements" of people, pushing many into poverty.
"When people are already on the brink of starvation this is simply unacceptable," it says.
The report said some progress had been made, with a scheme to protect rural employment in the case of drought, but it needed to be implemented more effectively.
Neighbouring Bangladesh is praised for reducing the number of chronically food-insecure people from 40 million to 27 million in the past 10 years and for improving childhood nutrition in the past two decades.
Posted by meenug on
Friday October 16, 2009 03:53 am
The bottom line for begger nation like Pakistan (a pak nation full of momeens always on the kafer dole LOL) is to keep on borrowing to survive. But when it comes to American dole - it comes with certain harsh condition where you have swallowed your pride as in the past.
This is what Uncle Sam is telling you - kill Talibans and Al queda then only we will release funds every year after annual certification by POTUS.
Now, if you kill Talibanis, they kill you too (like 5 incidents in 15 days).....
But Pakistan has no other option to persue since nobody is offering dole any more after they have realised that this nation is cheating on terms (as musharaf spoke on TV about funds being diverted for defense against india), as also Military generals siphoning funds overseas in thier swiss bank accounts.
For your Information google chacha India has 280 billion FOREX which earns 25 billion every year on interests and other investments generated therefrom.....
“We have been sourcing services and components out of India since 1998. On an average, we have grown the sourcing volume by about 10 per cent per year”
Wilfried Aulbur
Managing Director and CEO, Mercedes Benz India
When Germany was testing their fast train, they had imported vibration sensors from Indian company MECHANALSYS(india) Ltd. during the test of high velocity and acceleration
surface mounted sensors (inductive velocity and accelerometers) alongwith Vibration Meters, Vibration Analysers, Digital Sound Level Meter.......
Indian diaspora sends US$27 billion in remittances back to India each year, the largest sum for any country. They also contribute knowledge of the world, international networks, new ideas, technologies and markets to their homeland. With the support of its diaspora, India has become a world leader in business process outsourcing, information technology and pharmaceuticals.
Oye my namby pamby google chacha, no quran or Allah will save you from default every six months. The world has enough of this bullshit coupled with deciet by cunning Pakistan. So fasten you seat belt because you are in for a spin........
This is what Uncle Sam is telling you - kill Talibans and Al queda then only we will release funds every year after annual certification by POTUS.
Now, if you kill Talibanis, they kill you too (like 5 incidents in 15 days).....
But Pakistan has no other option to persue since nobody is offering dole any more after they have realised that this nation is cheating on terms (as musharaf spoke on TV about funds being diverted for defense against india), as also Military generals siphoning funds overseas in thier swiss bank accounts.
For your Information google chacha India has 280 billion FOREX which earns 25 billion every year on interests and other investments generated therefrom.....
“We have been sourcing services and components out of India since 1998. On an average, we have grown the sourcing volume by about 10 per cent per year”
Wilfried Aulbur
Managing Director and CEO, Mercedes Benz India
When Germany was testing their fast train, they had imported vibration sensors from Indian company MECHANALSYS(india) Ltd. during the test of high velocity and acceleration
surface mounted sensors (inductive velocity and accelerometers) alongwith Vibration Meters, Vibration Analysers, Digital Sound Level Meter.......
Indian diaspora sends US$27 billion in remittances back to India each year, the largest sum for any country. They also contribute knowledge of the world, international networks, new ideas, technologies and markets to their homeland. With the support of its diaspora, India has become a world leader in business process outsourcing, information technology and pharmaceuticals.
Oye my namby pamby google chacha, no quran or Allah will save you from default every six months. The world has enough of this bullshit coupled with deciet by cunning Pakistan. So fasten you seat belt because you are in for a spin........
Posted by meenug on
Friday October 16, 2009 02:30 am
By Mazhar Tufail
ISLAMABAD: After minor changes in the 11-point agenda of the International Monetary Fund (IMF), the Pakistan government has agreed to gradually impose the Central Excise Duty (CED) on services and agriculture sectors at the rate of eight to 18 per cent in place of the General Sales Tax (GST), The News learnt here on Saturday.
“In view of the IMF demand, the Pakistani currency will also be devalued after slight changes in the discount rate and exchange rate will be decreased officially by six to seven per cent,” an official in the Ministry of Finance disclosed, wishing to remain anonymous.
Moreover, the official said the release of 60 per cent funds for the next three quarters of the current financial year, under the Public Sector Development Programme (PSDP), would be reviewed downward to 45 per cent.
According to the official, the foreign assistance flow had already declined by 40 per cent BECAUSE DONORS REFUSED TO PROVIDE FUNDS for new projects at the federal and provincial levels under the PSDP against the ongoing projects funded by the Japan-IBRD, the World Bank, the Islamic Development Bank and the Asian Development Bank.
The IMF proposal received by the federal government in the last week of October contained 16 conditions having 180 points that were discussed in four meetings between Pakistani and IMF officials in Dubai, the official disclosed.
Eleven of the 16 conditions have been accepted with slight changes, he added.
The official said that major conditions accepted by the Pakistan government included changes in the Islamic Development Bank loans and differentiation between loans and grants, devaluation of rupee, freezing of non-development expenditure UNDER THE DEFENSE BUDGET for the last three quarters of the current financial year, non-provision of supplementary grants to government departments, ending subsidy on gas and electricity, 20 per cent reduction in non-development expenditure of civil departments and federal ministries, increase in markup rate of banks and on inter-bank transactions, uniformity in the inter-bank and open market dollar exchange rate and stoppage of government financial intervention in stock markets.
Under the conditions accepted by the government, the IMF will be informed at the time of the issuance of credit line by any international financial institution, including the World Bank or immediately after it, the official said.
ìThe matters on which the government and its financial managers have differed with the IMF include release of $1.5 billion to$2 billion for the current financial year under the annual assistance package,î he said.
The government wants the IMF to provide $3 billion and another $1.5 billion to $2 billion for adjustment of the loan instalments and maintenance of the balance of payments during the current financial year, said the official.
But the IMF wants to release $2 billion FOR REPAYMENTS in the first six months after reaching the agreement FOR SAVING PAKISTAN FROM DEFAULT and another $500 million for the stability of the national economy,î he said. ìFor this too, the IMF wants increase in the markup rate on the already approved 600 million World Bank loan and grant,î he added.
The official opined that despite all the tough conditions, objections and differences, PAKISTAN WOULD BE COMPELLED TO SEEK THE IMF ASSISTANCE PACKAGE because under the IMF pressure on the Friends of Pakistan, NO FRIENDLY COUNTRY HAS SO FAR AGREED TO EXTEND LOAN TO ISLAMABAD to meet its repayment obligations. ìTherefore, the government has decided to write a letter of intent to the IMF for assistance,î he said.
http://thenews.jang.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=18119
Pony Pakistan´s crude oil and deasel bill amounts to 10 billion plus......against its total exports of 13 billion. Pakistan is left with 9 billion deficit every year - where will the money come from other than begging from kafers???
Against the reality (PAKISTAN GOING KAPUT) this namby pamby google chacha has nothing to say, but for few malnutrition cases in India, he comes running here on this chowk. LOL
ISLAMABAD: After minor changes in the 11-point agenda of the International Monetary Fund (IMF), the Pakistan government has agreed to gradually impose the Central Excise Duty (CED) on services and agriculture sectors at the rate of eight to 18 per cent in place of the General Sales Tax (GST), The News learnt here on Saturday.
“In view of the IMF demand, the Pakistani currency will also be devalued after slight changes in the discount rate and exchange rate will be decreased officially by six to seven per cent,” an official in the Ministry of Finance disclosed, wishing to remain anonymous.
Moreover, the official said the release of 60 per cent funds for the next three quarters of the current financial year, under the Public Sector Development Programme (PSDP), would be reviewed downward to 45 per cent.
According to the official, the foreign assistance flow had already declined by 40 per cent BECAUSE DONORS REFUSED TO PROVIDE FUNDS for new projects at the federal and provincial levels under the PSDP against the ongoing projects funded by the Japan-IBRD, the World Bank, the Islamic Development Bank and the Asian Development Bank.
The IMF proposal received by the federal government in the last week of October contained 16 conditions having 180 points that were discussed in four meetings between Pakistani and IMF officials in Dubai, the official disclosed.
Eleven of the 16 conditions have been accepted with slight changes, he added.
The official said that major conditions accepted by the Pakistan government included changes in the Islamic Development Bank loans and differentiation between loans and grants, devaluation of rupee, freezing of non-development expenditure UNDER THE DEFENSE BUDGET for the last three quarters of the current financial year, non-provision of supplementary grants to government departments, ending subsidy on gas and electricity, 20 per cent reduction in non-development expenditure of civil departments and federal ministries, increase in markup rate of banks and on inter-bank transactions, uniformity in the inter-bank and open market dollar exchange rate and stoppage of government financial intervention in stock markets.
Under the conditions accepted by the government, the IMF will be informed at the time of the issuance of credit line by any international financial institution, including the World Bank or immediately after it, the official said.
ìThe matters on which the government and its financial managers have differed with the IMF include release of $1.5 billion to$2 billion for the current financial year under the annual assistance package,î he said.
The government wants the IMF to provide $3 billion and another $1.5 billion to $2 billion for adjustment of the loan instalments and maintenance of the balance of payments during the current financial year, said the official.
But the IMF wants to release $2 billion FOR REPAYMENTS in the first six months after reaching the agreement FOR SAVING PAKISTAN FROM DEFAULT and another $500 million for the stability of the national economy,î he said. ìFor this too, the IMF wants increase in the markup rate on the already approved 600 million World Bank loan and grant,î he added.
The official opined that despite all the tough conditions, objections and differences, PAKISTAN WOULD BE COMPELLED TO SEEK THE IMF ASSISTANCE PACKAGE because under the IMF pressure on the Friends of Pakistan, NO FRIENDLY COUNTRY HAS SO FAR AGREED TO EXTEND LOAN TO ISLAMABAD to meet its repayment obligations. ìTherefore, the government has decided to write a letter of intent to the IMF for assistance,î he said.
http://thenews.jang.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=18119
Pony Pakistan´s crude oil and deasel bill amounts to 10 billion plus......against its total exports of 13 billion. Pakistan is left with 9 billion deficit every year - where will the money come from other than begging from kafers???
Against the reality (PAKISTAN GOING KAPUT) this namby pamby google chacha has nothing to say, but for few malnutrition cases in India, he comes running here on this chowk. LOL
Posted by meenug on
Friday October 16, 2009 01:17 am
####There are 27 Pakistani scientists involved in this effort at CERN####
Out of total strength of 7000 (out of 20 countries) only 27 ? But why you muslims are joining these projects when you have everything (science included) listed in your miracluous book called quran. Check it once again, it has already knowledge of Big Bang, so why send yr people out there when you already have this knowledge in yr backyard?
For yr information US-Russia-Japan-India are observer countries....
www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1A1-D92DMEMO3.html
Out of total strength of 7000 (out of 20 countries) only 27 ? But why you muslims are joining these projects when you have everything (science included) listed in your miracluous book called quran. Check it once again, it has already knowledge of Big Bang, so why send yr people out there when you already have this knowledge in yr backyard?
For yr information US-Russia-Japan-India are observer countries....
www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1A1-D92DMEMO3.html
Posted by meenug on
Friday October 16, 2009 12:50 am
####despite government programs guaranteeing free obstetric health care####
Does Pakistan Provide FREE obstetric which itself is on dole?
Why are Pakis dying faster than Indians? because you use women as a breeding machine to increase the numbers of Muslims and these women with multiple births year after year die early......
7.85 deaths/1,000 population (Pakistan)
6.4 deaths/1,000 population (India)
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/peo_dea_rat-people-death-rate
Does Pakistan Provide FREE obstetric which itself is on dole?
Why are Pakis dying faster than Indians? because you use women as a breeding machine to increase the numbers of Muslims and these women with multiple births year after year die early......
7.85 deaths/1,000 population (Pakistan)
6.4 deaths/1,000 population (India)
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/peo_dea_rat-people-death-rate
Posted by RiazHaq on
Thursday October 15, 2009 11:12 pm
Tens of thousands of Indian women and girls are dying during pregnancy, in childbirth, and in the weeks after giving birth, despite government programs guaranteeing free obstetric health care, Human Rights Watch said in a report released today.
The 150-page report "No Tally of the Anguish: Accountability in Maternal Health Care in India" documents repeated failures both in providing health care to pregnant women in Uttar Pradesh state in northern India and in taking steps to identify and address gaps in care. Uttar Pradesh has one of the highest maternal mortality ratios in India, but government surveys show it is not alone in struggling with these problems, including a failure even to record how many women are dying.
"Unless India actually counts all the women who die because of childbirth, it won't be able to prevent those thousands of unnecessary deaths," said Aruna Kashyap. "Accountability might seem like an abstract concept, but for Indian women it's a matter of life and death."
The report cites numerous examples of cases in which breakdowns in the system ended tragically. Kavita K., for example, developed post-partum complications, but the local community health center was unable to treat her, according to her father, Suraj S., who said the family then tried to take her to government hospitals in three different towns.
"From Wednesday to Sunday - for five days - we took her from one hospital to another," he told Human Rights Watch. "No one wanted to admit her. In Lucknow, they admitted her and started treatment. They treated her for about an hour, and then she died."
India created a flagship program, the National Rural Health Mission, in 2005 to improve rural health, with a specific focus on maternal health. The program promises "concrete service guarantees," including free care before and during childbirth, in-patient hospital services, comprehensive emergency obstetric care, referral in case of complications, and postnatal care. But the system is not working as it should in many cases, Human Rights Watch research showed.
The report identified critical shortcomings in the tools used to monitor the health care system and identify recurring flaws in programs and practice. While accountability measures, such as monitoring how and why women die or are injured, or how many pregnant women with complications can use the government's emergency obstetric facilities, may seem dry or abstract, they are critical to intervening in time to make a difference and to saving the lives of women.
The major gaps in the system identified by Human Rights Watch are:
* The failure to gather the necessary information at the district level about where, when, and why deaths and injuries are occurring and whether women with pregnancy complications in practice get access to emergency obstetric care; and
* The absence of accessible grievance and redress mechanisms, including emergency response systems.
"India has recognized that thousands and thousands of its women are dying unnecessarily, and it could be leading the world in reversing that deadly pattern," said Kashyap. "But for all India's good intentions, the system still leaves many women at risk of death or injury."
The research for the report was conducted between November 2008 and August 2009, and included field research and interviews with victims, families, medical experts, officials and human rights activists in Uttar Pradesh and elsewhere in India. Researchers reviewed government surveys and reports by local and international nongovernmental organizations.
The investigations in Uttar Pradesh also show that while health authorities are upgrading public health facilities, they still have a long way to go. The majority of public health facilities have yet to provide basic and comprehensive emergency obstetric care. Many have a health worker trained in midwifery but who can do little to save the life of a pregnant woman unless supported by a functioning health system, including an adequate supply of drugs, emergency care, and referral systems for complications.
The reality is far different from what is guaranteed to women on paper. Niraja N., a health worker who routinely accompanies pregnant women to health facilities so they can give birth told Human Rights Watch:
"Nothing is free for anyone. What happens when we take a woman for delivery to the hospital is that she will have to pay for her cord to be cut ... for medicines, some more money for the cleaning. The staff nurse will also ask for money. They do not ask the family directly ... We have to take it from the family and give it to them [staff nurses] ... And those of us [ASHAs] who don't listen to the staff nurse or if we threaten to complain, they make a note of us. They remember our faces and then the next time we go they don't treat our [delivery] cases well. They will look at us and say ‘referral' even if it is a normal case."
In part, this happens because many women are unaware of their entitlements under health care programs and have no way to make sure that their complaints and concerns about the treatment meted out to them at health facilities or by health workers are heard and addressed.
The 150-page report "No Tally of the Anguish: Accountability in Maternal Health Care in India" documents repeated failures both in providing health care to pregnant women in Uttar Pradesh state in northern India and in taking steps to identify and address gaps in care. Uttar Pradesh has one of the highest maternal mortality ratios in India, but government surveys show it is not alone in struggling with these problems, including a failure even to record how many women are dying.
"Unless India actually counts all the women who die because of childbirth, it won't be able to prevent those thousands of unnecessary deaths," said Aruna Kashyap. "Accountability might seem like an abstract concept, but for Indian women it's a matter of life and death."
The report cites numerous examples of cases in which breakdowns in the system ended tragically. Kavita K., for example, developed post-partum complications, but the local community health center was unable to treat her, according to her father, Suraj S., who said the family then tried to take her to government hospitals in three different towns.
"From Wednesday to Sunday - for five days - we took her from one hospital to another," he told Human Rights Watch. "No one wanted to admit her. In Lucknow, they admitted her and started treatment. They treated her for about an hour, and then she died."
India created a flagship program, the National Rural Health Mission, in 2005 to improve rural health, with a specific focus on maternal health. The program promises "concrete service guarantees," including free care before and during childbirth, in-patient hospital services, comprehensive emergency obstetric care, referral in case of complications, and postnatal care. But the system is not working as it should in many cases, Human Rights Watch research showed.
The report identified critical shortcomings in the tools used to monitor the health care system and identify recurring flaws in programs and practice. While accountability measures, such as monitoring how and why women die or are injured, or how many pregnant women with complications can use the government's emergency obstetric facilities, may seem dry or abstract, they are critical to intervening in time to make a difference and to saving the lives of women.
The major gaps in the system identified by Human Rights Watch are:
* The failure to gather the necessary information at the district level about where, when, and why deaths and injuries are occurring and whether women with pregnancy complications in practice get access to emergency obstetric care; and
* The absence of accessible grievance and redress mechanisms, including emergency response systems.
"India has recognized that thousands and thousands of its women are dying unnecessarily, and it could be leading the world in reversing that deadly pattern," said Kashyap. "But for all India's good intentions, the system still leaves many women at risk of death or injury."
The research for the report was conducted between November 2008 and August 2009, and included field research and interviews with victims, families, medical experts, officials and human rights activists in Uttar Pradesh and elsewhere in India. Researchers reviewed government surveys and reports by local and international nongovernmental organizations.
The investigations in Uttar Pradesh also show that while health authorities are upgrading public health facilities, they still have a long way to go. The majority of public health facilities have yet to provide basic and comprehensive emergency obstetric care. Many have a health worker trained in midwifery but who can do little to save the life of a pregnant woman unless supported by a functioning health system, including an adequate supply of drugs, emergency care, and referral systems for complications.
The reality is far different from what is guaranteed to women on paper. Niraja N., a health worker who routinely accompanies pregnant women to health facilities so they can give birth told Human Rights Watch:
"Nothing is free for anyone. What happens when we take a woman for delivery to the hospital is that she will have to pay for her cord to be cut ... for medicines, some more money for the cleaning. The staff nurse will also ask for money. They do not ask the family directly ... We have to take it from the family and give it to them [staff nurses] ... And those of us [ASHAs] who don't listen to the staff nurse or if we threaten to complain, they make a note of us. They remember our faces and then the next time we go they don't treat our [delivery] cases well. They will look at us and say ‘referral' even if it is a normal case."
In part, this happens because many women are unaware of their entitlements under health care programs and have no way to make sure that their complaints and concerns about the treatment meted out to them at health facilities or by health workers are heard and addressed.
Posted by RiazHaq on
Thursday October 15, 2009 09:42 pm
Pakistan can certainly use a few Cassandras like Pervez Hoddbhoy and Irfan Husain. These guys are no different as Cassandras than Arundhati Roy, Pankaj Mishra and Yoginder Sikand in India.
In fact, Pervez Hoodbhoy, who I know personally and stay in touch with, is my favorite.
Cassandras serve an important purpose by trying to tell the bad news and pull people out of denial.
Now let me address some of the points in Irfan Husain's piece.
1. It is unfortunately true that some doors in the post 911 world have closed for Pakistani students and scientists in terms of education, research and employment. However, it is not a hopeless situation. Take the Hadron Supercollider in Switzerland, for example.
There are 27 Pakistani scientists involved in this effort at CERN. Pakistan has made material contributions to the tune of $10m. Pakistan signed an agreement with CERN which doubled the Pakistani contribution from one to two million Swiss francs. And with this new agreement Pakistan started construction of the resistive plate chambers required for the CMS muon system. While more recently, a protocol has been signed enhancing Pakistan’s total contribution to the LHC program to $10 million.
Another example, there are at least 10,000 Pakistanis going to the UK alone each year, in spite of the visa difficulties. More than 30,000 student visa apps by Pakistanis are rejected each year.
There are dozens of Pakistanis working as nuclear scientists and engineers at GE and other firms, designing and building reactors. At least one of them serves on the Nuclear Regulatory Commission.
Pakistan is one of a dozen nations with labs conducting research at Jinnah Arctic Station in Antarctica.
There is at least one university, NUST, that shows up on the latest top 400 universities published by Times of London. There are several more in 400-500 range.
According to Sciencewatch, papers by Pakistani scientist are increasingly being cited in many fields including computer science, engineering, materials, plant biology. Pakistani is considered a rising star based on data from Thompson-Reuters for 2008 and 2009.
So along with the bad news that Cassandras bring you, there is always some good news, too.
In fact, Pervez Hoodbhoy, who I know personally and stay in touch with, is my favorite.
Cassandras serve an important purpose by trying to tell the bad news and pull people out of denial.
Now let me address some of the points in Irfan Husain's piece.
1. It is unfortunately true that some doors in the post 911 world have closed for Pakistani students and scientists in terms of education, research and employment. However, it is not a hopeless situation. Take the Hadron Supercollider in Switzerland, for example.
There are 27 Pakistani scientists involved in this effort at CERN. Pakistan has made material contributions to the tune of $10m. Pakistan signed an agreement with CERN which doubled the Pakistani contribution from one to two million Swiss francs. And with this new agreement Pakistan started construction of the resistive plate chambers required for the CMS muon system. While more recently, a protocol has been signed enhancing Pakistan’s total contribution to the LHC program to $10 million.
Another example, there are at least 10,000 Pakistanis going to the UK alone each year, in spite of the visa difficulties. More than 30,000 student visa apps by Pakistanis are rejected each year.
There are dozens of Pakistanis working as nuclear scientists and engineers at GE and other firms, designing and building reactors. At least one of them serves on the Nuclear Regulatory Commission.
Pakistan is one of a dozen nations with labs conducting research at Jinnah Arctic Station in Antarctica.
There is at least one university, NUST, that shows up on the latest top 400 universities published by Times of London. There are several more in 400-500 range.
According to Sciencewatch, papers by Pakistani scientist are increasingly being cited in many fields including computer science, engineering, materials, plant biology. Pakistani is considered a rising star based on data from Thompson-Reuters for 2008 and 2009.
So along with the bad news that Cassandras bring you, there is always some good news, too.
Posted by meenug on
Thursday October 15, 2009 10:50 am
Here is from PERVAIZ HUDHBOY ABOUT PAKISTANI RESEARCH PAPERS:
3-fold increase in Pakistani academic publications. Fantastically large per-paper monetary rewards to university teachers - a practice not adopted anywhere else in the world for excellent reasons - have indeed boosted publication rates. But publishing more papers is not the same as doing more research. Instead, the high rewards have caused an explosion of plagiarism, theft of intellectual property, publication of trivial results and falsified data, and publication of slightly different versions of the same paper in different journals. Most published papers are worthless academically and scientifically.
A majority of papers by Pakistani authors, even if published in international journals by some hook or crook, have exactly zero citations (once self-citations are removed). Such papers have contributed nothing. They may just as well have not been written. The average number of citations per Pakistani paper is 3.41 (includes self-citation), which is much below that in scientifically advanced countries.
Still more shocking is the citation record of some of Pakistan's most well-advertised scientists, whose relentless self-promotion at GOVERNMENT EXPENSE would be considered a crime in another country. While they have hundreds of papers and books to their credit, most of these have zero-citations. Others in their field seem to have scarcely noticed any of their work. On the other hand the reader can check that about 25-30 other
Pakistani scientists, who are unadvertised, relatively unknown, and have published far fewer papers, nevertheless have much better citation records and a moderately good international standing in their respective fields.
Now for the HEC's nine Pak-European universities project: This is a stunning disaster. The most advanced university (in terms of construction and planning) was the French engineering university in Karachi. Named UESTP-France, with a completion cost of Rs. 26 billion rupees, it was to have begun functioning in October 2007. There is still no official explanation for why this did not happen, no new date has been set, and no account given of the money already spent.
On the face of it, making Pak-European universities sounds like a wonderful idea. Pakistan would pay for France, Sweden, Italy, and some other European countries to help set up, manage, and provide professors for new universities in Pakistan. It would be expensive - Pakistan would have to pay the full development costs, recurrent expenses, and euro-level salaries (plus 40% markup) for all the foreign professors and vice-chancellors. But it would still be worth it because the large presence of European professors teaching in these Pakistani universities would ensure good teaching. High-standard degrees would subsequently be awarded by institutions in the respective European countries.
Even commonsense said that the project could not work. Perhaps one can persuade beefy mercenaries of the French Foreign Legion to go to some country where suicide bombings happen daily and killing of ordinary citizens by terrorists is routine. But it takes an enormous leap of faith to think that respectable academics from France - or any other European country for that matter - will want to live and teach in Pakistan for a year or more. Travel advisories issued by several European governments warn against even brief visits. That the French professors did not turn up at UESTP-France is scarcely surprising. But, lost to their mad fantasies, HEC planners are now working on the vain assumption that the Germans and Swedes are made of sterner stuff than the French.
Slick PowerPoint presentations by HEC officials throw one figure after another at dizzying speed giving the impression of fantastic progress. But the intelligent listener must ask many questions: does it make sense to select thousands of students on the basis of a substandard high-school level numeracy and literacy test, and then send them for an expensive graduate-level education in Europe? Will the quality of Pakistani graduates not be further degraded by pushing Ph.D production far beyond the capability of the present universities?
It is time to end the fetish of buying tons of expensive scientific equipment that, at the end of it all, produce only zero-citation papers and zero patents. Curiously, after a bunch of projects were exposed as phony, the HEC broke with its past practice and now no longer puts on its website details of HEC-funded projects. It is also time to stop HEC officials and HEC delegates from gallivanting across the globe at public expense on the vaguest of excuses for "fact-finding" missions and conferences.
As one indicator, performance scores of Pakistanis on the US Graduate Record Examinations, which test subject basics, are miserably poor compared to students from India or China. For example, of the 56 M.Phil and Ph.D students who recently took the physics exam from the best physics department in the country - that at Quaid-e-Azam University – none was able to get even a semi-respectable score in this entry-level examination.
DEEPER ISSUES: Sixty years of consistent failure force us to search for reasons that go beyond fiscal and administrative issues. What sets us apart from the developed world, or even India and Iran? In Pakistan the dead hand of tradition stands squarely in the way of modern education and a modern mindset that relies on critical thinking. The educational system, shaped by deeply conservative social and cultural values, discourages questioning and stresses obedience.
To my mind, publishing even two dozen papers yearly -- provided they are highly original and well-cited -- would have a far healthier impact on our universities than the hundreds of junk papers generated by the government's per-paper reward scheme.
See how Pakistani scientists are cheating everyone! al taqiyya LOL
3-fold increase in Pakistani academic publications. Fantastically large per-paper monetary rewards to university teachers - a practice not adopted anywhere else in the world for excellent reasons - have indeed boosted publication rates. But publishing more papers is not the same as doing more research. Instead, the high rewards have caused an explosion of plagiarism, theft of intellectual property, publication of trivial results and falsified data, and publication of slightly different versions of the same paper in different journals. Most published papers are worthless academically and scientifically.
A majority of papers by Pakistani authors, even if published in international journals by some hook or crook, have exactly zero citations (once self-citations are removed). Such papers have contributed nothing. They may just as well have not been written. The average number of citations per Pakistani paper is 3.41 (includes self-citation), which is much below that in scientifically advanced countries.
Still more shocking is the citation record of some of Pakistan's most well-advertised scientists, whose relentless self-promotion at GOVERNMENT EXPENSE would be considered a crime in another country. While they have hundreds of papers and books to their credit, most of these have zero-citations. Others in their field seem to have scarcely noticed any of their work. On the other hand the reader can check that about 25-30 other
Pakistani scientists, who are unadvertised, relatively unknown, and have published far fewer papers, nevertheless have much better citation records and a moderately good international standing in their respective fields.
Now for the HEC's nine Pak-European universities project: This is a stunning disaster. The most advanced university (in terms of construction and planning) was the French engineering university in Karachi. Named UESTP-France, with a completion cost of Rs. 26 billion rupees, it was to have begun functioning in October 2007. There is still no official explanation for why this did not happen, no new date has been set, and no account given of the money already spent.
On the face of it, making Pak-European universities sounds like a wonderful idea. Pakistan would pay for France, Sweden, Italy, and some other European countries to help set up, manage, and provide professors for new universities in Pakistan. It would be expensive - Pakistan would have to pay the full development costs, recurrent expenses, and euro-level salaries (plus 40% markup) for all the foreign professors and vice-chancellors. But it would still be worth it because the large presence of European professors teaching in these Pakistani universities would ensure good teaching. High-standard degrees would subsequently be awarded by institutions in the respective European countries.
Even commonsense said that the project could not work. Perhaps one can persuade beefy mercenaries of the French Foreign Legion to go to some country where suicide bombings happen daily and killing of ordinary citizens by terrorists is routine. But it takes an enormous leap of faith to think that respectable academics from France - or any other European country for that matter - will want to live and teach in Pakistan for a year or more. Travel advisories issued by several European governments warn against even brief visits. That the French professors did not turn up at UESTP-France is scarcely surprising. But, lost to their mad fantasies, HEC planners are now working on the vain assumption that the Germans and Swedes are made of sterner stuff than the French.
Slick PowerPoint presentations by HEC officials throw one figure after another at dizzying speed giving the impression of fantastic progress. But the intelligent listener must ask many questions: does it make sense to select thousands of students on the basis of a substandard high-school level numeracy and literacy test, and then send them for an expensive graduate-level education in Europe? Will the quality of Pakistani graduates not be further degraded by pushing Ph.D production far beyond the capability of the present universities?
It is time to end the fetish of buying tons of expensive scientific equipment that, at the end of it all, produce only zero-citation papers and zero patents. Curiously, after a bunch of projects were exposed as phony, the HEC broke with its past practice and now no longer puts on its website details of HEC-funded projects. It is also time to stop HEC officials and HEC delegates from gallivanting across the globe at public expense on the vaguest of excuses for "fact-finding" missions and conferences.
As one indicator, performance scores of Pakistanis on the US Graduate Record Examinations, which test subject basics, are miserably poor compared to students from India or China. For example, of the 56 M.Phil and Ph.D students who recently took the physics exam from the best physics department in the country - that at Quaid-e-Azam University – none was able to get even a semi-respectable score in this entry-level examination.
DEEPER ISSUES: Sixty years of consistent failure force us to search for reasons that go beyond fiscal and administrative issues. What sets us apart from the developed world, or even India and Iran? In Pakistan the dead hand of tradition stands squarely in the way of modern education and a modern mindset that relies on critical thinking. The educational system, shaped by deeply conservative social and cultural values, discourages questioning and stresses obedience.
To my mind, publishing even two dozen papers yearly -- provided they are highly original and well-cited -- would have a far healthier impact on our universities than the hundreds of junk papers generated by the government's per-paper reward scheme.
See how Pakistani scientists are cheating everyone! al taqiyya LOL
Posted by meenug on
Thursday October 15, 2009 01:26 am
####Indonesia (46), while Jordan (55), Pakistan (56), Turkey (57) and Egypt (58) occupied the bottom four ranks.####
What can be said of Muslim women who are subjugated souls always crying under veil.
Here is One Fatima Bibi lamenting:
Please, Allah, leave us alone to cry and weep in peace. From behind the veil, beyond public gaze we want to cry till we cannot cry any more. This is the only right you have left to us Muslim women, throughout the Islamic world, where your laws are meticulously followed. The world beyond is undergoing so many changes, so many evolutions over the ages; year after year, new
discoveries are being made both in the sciences and philosophies, in the rest of the world, improving upon old ideas and beliefs. But we are tied forever to the rigid and immutable shackles of your laws, Allah.
Syed Mustafa Siraj was at least honest when he said that the Hindus can fearlessly write on the injustices and other inadequacies of their social system, but we, the Muslims, are afraid to criticize the defects of the Islamic society.......
More than a hundred female lawyers had demanded women's emancipation in the streets of Lahore in Islamic Pakistan. The 'heroic' Pakistani policemen attacked the female lawyers with sticks and batons.
What a horrible, inhuman and illogical existence Moslem women have! Leaving his hundreds of concubines behind, the octogenarian Sheikh from Arabia comes to Pakistan to 'marry' a Muslim teenager, and the Islamic society remains calm.
The news is flashed in all papers but behold, not a single political leader even registers a protest. Not a single mullah or maulvi declares 'jihad' or holy war on such goings-on. On the other hand, the mullah presides over
these "Muta Marriages" that last for only a short fixed time.
Bitter Laments of ex muslima:
What an unbearable existence for us to live and survive among co-wives! Innumerable children, unhealthy surroundings, poverty and lack of education have made a mockery of our social lives. Even goats and cows live better than us. The frequent fights among the co-wives, the pulling at one another's hair are so degrading! And then, God forbicl, if the miyan or husband gets into
the fray, then we get beaten like a beast until we cannot take it anymore. And after the beating, to make it even more degrading, the miyan takes his other wife into the bedroom and shuts the door into our face.
The sword of 'Talaq' or divorce could come down on her any moment. The slightest inattention can provoke a divorce. All is in the hands of the Muslim husband. Just the
pronouncement of the word 'Talaq' three times can move the earth from under the feet of the Muslim wife.
The motto among Moslem women is: 'Breed and profit'-take over the land by increased birth rate. And we, the married Muslim women, have to bear all the burden of the entire operation. That is why no one ever finds a married Muslim
woman who is not nursing her own baby or is not pregnant. They are with a child all the time. They die young.
We observe the lives of Hindu women who live near or around us. What a sense of purity, security and trust surrounds their family lives! Where is the hope of chastity, of purity in our lives?
It was with us in mind that Kazi Abdul Oclud
once said that in the last 1400 years, Islam has not been able to light even a small candle eradicating darkness from human civilization.
The Government gave us the right to vote but denied us a healthy and peaceful married life by perpetuating the 'Muslim Personal Marriage Code'. The 'Hindu Code Bill' liberated the Hindu women but we still remain the victims of polygamous practices. No remedy has been provided to prevent frivolous divorces in our Islamic society.
If a divorced Muslim woman files a suit for her property and alimony rights, then the Muslim court moves very slowly indeed. In the meantime, the husband can get remarried without any hindrance from our Islamic laws.
The law of the land that helps women of all other communities under similar circumstances is of no use to us Muslim women because we are supposed to go by the laws of Islam only and nothing else.
See how moslem women are distressed from within ?????
What can be said of Muslim women who are subjugated souls always crying under veil.
Here is One Fatima Bibi lamenting:
Please, Allah, leave us alone to cry and weep in peace. From behind the veil, beyond public gaze we want to cry till we cannot cry any more. This is the only right you have left to us Muslim women, throughout the Islamic world, where your laws are meticulously followed. The world beyond is undergoing so many changes, so many evolutions over the ages; year after year, new
discoveries are being made both in the sciences and philosophies, in the rest of the world, improving upon old ideas and beliefs. But we are tied forever to the rigid and immutable shackles of your laws, Allah.
Syed Mustafa Siraj was at least honest when he said that the Hindus can fearlessly write on the injustices and other inadequacies of their social system, but we, the Muslims, are afraid to criticize the defects of the Islamic society.......
More than a hundred female lawyers had demanded women's emancipation in the streets of Lahore in Islamic Pakistan. The 'heroic' Pakistani policemen attacked the female lawyers with sticks and batons.
What a horrible, inhuman and illogical existence Moslem women have! Leaving his hundreds of concubines behind, the octogenarian Sheikh from Arabia comes to Pakistan to 'marry' a Muslim teenager, and the Islamic society remains calm.
The news is flashed in all papers but behold, not a single political leader even registers a protest. Not a single mullah or maulvi declares 'jihad' or holy war on such goings-on. On the other hand, the mullah presides over
these "Muta Marriages" that last for only a short fixed time.
Bitter Laments of ex muslima:
What an unbearable existence for us to live and survive among co-wives! Innumerable children, unhealthy surroundings, poverty and lack of education have made a mockery of our social lives. Even goats and cows live better than us. The frequent fights among the co-wives, the pulling at one another's hair are so degrading! And then, God forbicl, if the miyan or husband gets into
the fray, then we get beaten like a beast until we cannot take it anymore. And after the beating, to make it even more degrading, the miyan takes his other wife into the bedroom and shuts the door into our face.
The sword of 'Talaq' or divorce could come down on her any moment. The slightest inattention can provoke a divorce. All is in the hands of the Muslim husband. Just the
pronouncement of the word 'Talaq' three times can move the earth from under the feet of the Muslim wife.
The motto among Moslem women is: 'Breed and profit'-take over the land by increased birth rate. And we, the married Muslim women, have to bear all the burden of the entire operation. That is why no one ever finds a married Muslim
woman who is not nursing her own baby or is not pregnant. They are with a child all the time. They die young.
We observe the lives of Hindu women who live near or around us. What a sense of purity, security and trust surrounds their family lives! Where is the hope of chastity, of purity in our lives?
It was with us in mind that Kazi Abdul Oclud
once said that in the last 1400 years, Islam has not been able to light even a small candle eradicating darkness from human civilization.
The Government gave us the right to vote but denied us a healthy and peaceful married life by perpetuating the 'Muslim Personal Marriage Code'. The 'Hindu Code Bill' liberated the Hindu women but we still remain the victims of polygamous practices. No remedy has been provided to prevent frivolous divorces in our Islamic society.
If a divorced Muslim woman files a suit for her property and alimony rights, then the Muslim court moves very slowly indeed. In the meantime, the husband can get remarried without any hindrance from our Islamic laws.
The law of the land that helps women of all other communities under similar circumstances is of no use to us Muslim women because we are supposed to go by the laws of Islam only and nothing else.
See how moslem women are distressed from within ?????
Posted by RiazHaq on
Wednesday October 14, 2009 05:06 pm
Here's a WEF assessment of gender gap in South Asia and Islamic world as among the worst:
Despite government’s efforts at empowering women and some of them occupying top positions in various sectors, India stood at a dismally low position of 53 among 58 countries for "gender gap," according to a survey by the World Economic Forum (WEF).
The survey showed that India was just above Korea, Jordan, Pakistan, Turkey and Egypt which occupied the last five positions in that order but below Bangladesh which got the 39th slot. Sri Lanka and Nepal were not included in the countries surveyed.
However, Indian women got high rating for political empowerment, where they were rated at 24th position, health and well-being (34) and economic opportunity (35).
What dragged them down was educational attainment where they got a low ranking -- 57th position -- and economic participation in which they occupied 54th position.
The survey took into consideration economic participation, economic opportunity, political empowerment, educational attainment and health and well-being.
The top five positions were occupied by Sweden, Norway, Iceland, Denmark and Finland followed by New Zealand, Canada, Britain, Germany and Australia. The United States occupied 17th position but got low rating in providing economic opportunity to women (46th).
Despite being among the richest countries, it scored the 42nd position for health and well-being of women. However, in education attainment it was placed at 8th position and for economic participation at 19th.
Overall, the survey gave India a score of 3.27 points on a scale of 1-7 where seven represented the top score.
Bangladesh, with just an overall score of 3.74, got the 39th position as it had done well in economic participation (18th rank), educational attainment and health (37) and well-being (37). Its ranking, however, dropped to 53 for economic opportunity and 42 for political empowerment.
China occupied 33rd position with an overall ranking of 4.01 points. Economic participation of women was its strongest point for which it occupied 9th position but for economic opportunity, its position dropped down to 23.
The ranking further went down for political empowerment (40) and educational attainment (46). But was slightly better for health and well-being at 36.
Out of the seven predominantly Muslim nations covered by the study, Bangladesh (39) and Malaysia (40) outperformed Indonesia (46), while Jordan (55), Pakistan (56), Turkey (57) and Egypt (58) occupied the bottom four ranks.
Traditional and deeply conservative attitudes regarding the role of women had made their integration into the world of public decision-making extremely difficult, the survey alleged.
Despite government’s efforts at empowering women and some of them occupying top positions in various sectors, India stood at a dismally low position of 53 among 58 countries for "gender gap," according to a survey by the World Economic Forum (WEF).
The survey showed that India was just above Korea, Jordan, Pakistan, Turkey and Egypt which occupied the last five positions in that order but below Bangladesh which got the 39th slot. Sri Lanka and Nepal were not included in the countries surveyed.
However, Indian women got high rating for political empowerment, where they were rated at 24th position, health and well-being (34) and economic opportunity (35).
What dragged them down was educational attainment where they got a low ranking -- 57th position -- and economic participation in which they occupied 54th position.
The survey took into consideration economic participation, economic opportunity, political empowerment, educational attainment and health and well-being.
The top five positions were occupied by Sweden, Norway, Iceland, Denmark and Finland followed by New Zealand, Canada, Britain, Germany and Australia. The United States occupied 17th position but got low rating in providing economic opportunity to women (46th).
Despite being among the richest countries, it scored the 42nd position for health and well-being of women. However, in education attainment it was placed at 8th position and for economic participation at 19th.
Overall, the survey gave India a score of 3.27 points on a scale of 1-7 where seven represented the top score.
Bangladesh, with just an overall score of 3.74, got the 39th position as it had done well in economic participation (18th rank), educational attainment and health (37) and well-being (37). Its ranking, however, dropped to 53 for economic opportunity and 42 for political empowerment.
China occupied 33rd position with an overall ranking of 4.01 points. Economic participation of women was its strongest point for which it occupied 9th position but for economic opportunity, its position dropped down to 23.
The ranking further went down for political empowerment (40) and educational attainment (46). But was slightly better for health and well-being at 36.
Out of the seven predominantly Muslim nations covered by the study, Bangladesh (39) and Malaysia (40) outperformed Indonesia (46), while Jordan (55), Pakistan (56), Turkey (57) and Egypt (58) occupied the bottom four ranks.
Traditional and deeply conservative attitudes regarding the role of women had made their integration into the world of public decision-making extremely difficult, the survey alleged.
Posted by meenug on
Wednesday October 14, 2009 03:04 pm
I know that my google chacha aka namby pamby is hell bent on following his sunah and quran to downgrade kafers.....but against the odds he can hardly do anything.....
There is no way in the world for a country like Pakistan which is on a dole every six months and has madersa educated blind faith salwar kameez embraced people with walking trash bag mohtarmas as part of thier society who have 22 pcnt inflation with 35% poor people to excel against Indians who are rational, pragmatic, scientific minded, darwinian, anti misogynist.......
Keep your lies elsewhere Mr namby pamby google chacha.LOL
There is no way in the world for a country like Pakistan which is on a dole every six months and has madersa educated blind faith salwar kameez embraced people with walking trash bag mohtarmas as part of thier society who have 22 pcnt inflation with 35% poor people to excel against Indians who are rational, pragmatic, scientific minded, darwinian, anti misogynist.......
Keep your lies elsewhere Mr namby pamby google chacha.LOL
Posted by meenug on
Wednesday October 14, 2009 02:33 pm
####If the Indians are really so smart and rich, why can't they feed their people? #####
Tell me why the super power like america has people below poverty line if you blame india?
QUOTE:
Poverty in the United States is cyclical in nature with roughly 13 to 17% living below the federal poverty line at any given point in time, and roughly 40% falling below the poverty line at some point within a 10 year time span.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_the_United_States
If US has such a face.....what about 35% poverty rate in Pakistan? or 25% in India?
Google chacha try to understand...dont be a baby in world affairs LOL!
Tell me why the super power like america has people below poverty line if you blame india?
QUOTE:
Poverty in the United States is cyclical in nature with roughly 13 to 17% living below the federal poverty line at any given point in time, and roughly 40% falling below the poverty line at some point within a 10 year time span.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_the_United_States
If US has such a face.....what about 35% poverty rate in Pakistan? or 25% in India?
Google chacha try to understand...dont be a baby in world affairs LOL!
Posted by meenug on
Wednesday October 14, 2009 02:28 pm
Answer the following, as asked by your compatriot on CHOWK:
If ten or so armed men can terrorise and paralyse a half a million plus armys headquarter for 22 plus hours the issue is strategic rather than tactical!
If ten civilians trained by irrational mullahs can penetrate a citadel hitherto considered impregnable and unpenetrable and 1600 officers inside it are like chicken in a barb wired coup at mercy of ten armed and highly motivated men then the situation is grave,not routine.
In a nutshell the serious aspects of the issue are :--
The most serious threat to Pakistan is internal and not external.
The military has lost its strategic and coercive deterrent value.
That ten armed civilians penetrated a military headquarters guarded by an infantry battalion and a similar number of DSG soldiers is a serious strategic imbalance.
That 6 plus armed men were roaming the GHQ for many hours and had the opportunity to kill many generals,an opportunity that they for some mysterious reasons chose not to exercise is a cause of grave strategic concern.
The fact that the perimeter guarding battalion 10 Punjab although it killed some four intruders failed to hold the few attackers from penetrating the GHQ is a grave matter.
The fact that the battalion plus DSG soldiers although armed with G 3 and SMG rifles just bolted away is a grave matter.
The fact that it took more than 18 hours and the fact that SSG troops had to be brought from some 70 miles away to redeem the situation is ironic par excellence........
Your (paki) national security is at high risk - forget about roti kapda makan........ohh my namby pamby google chacha!
If ten or so armed men can terrorise and paralyse a half a million plus armys headquarter for 22 plus hours the issue is strategic rather than tactical!
If ten civilians trained by irrational mullahs can penetrate a citadel hitherto considered impregnable and unpenetrable and 1600 officers inside it are like chicken in a barb wired coup at mercy of ten armed and highly motivated men then the situation is grave,not routine.
In a nutshell the serious aspects of the issue are :--
The most serious threat to Pakistan is internal and not external.
The military has lost its strategic and coercive deterrent value.
That ten armed civilians penetrated a military headquarters guarded by an infantry battalion and a similar number of DSG soldiers is a serious strategic imbalance.
That 6 plus armed men were roaming the GHQ for many hours and had the opportunity to kill many generals,an opportunity that they for some mysterious reasons chose not to exercise is a cause of grave strategic concern.
The fact that the perimeter guarding battalion 10 Punjab although it killed some four intruders failed to hold the few attackers from penetrating the GHQ is a grave matter.
The fact that the battalion plus DSG soldiers although armed with G 3 and SMG rifles just bolted away is a grave matter.
The fact that it took more than 18 hours and the fact that SSG troops had to be brought from some 70 miles away to redeem the situation is ironic par excellence........
Your (paki) national security is at high risk - forget about roti kapda makan........ohh my namby pamby google chacha!
Posted by RiazHaq on
Wednesday October 14, 2009 11:20 am
If the Indians are really so smart and rich, why can't they feed their people?
According to the World Food Program, nearly 50 percent of the world's hungry live in India, a low-income, food-deficit country.
Around 35 percent of India's population - 350 million - are considered food-insecure, consuming less than 80 percent of minimum energy requirements.
Nutritional and health indicators are extremely low. Nearly nine out of 10 pregnant women aged between 15 and 49 years suffer from malnutrition and anaemia.
Anaemia in pregnant women causes 20 percent of infant mortality. More than half of the children under five are moderately or severely malnourished, or suffer from stunting.
According to the World Food Program, nearly 50 percent of the world's hungry live in India, a low-income, food-deficit country.
Around 35 percent of India's population - 350 million - are considered food-insecure, consuming less than 80 percent of minimum energy requirements.
Nutritional and health indicators are extremely low. Nearly nine out of 10 pregnant women aged between 15 and 49 years suffer from malnutrition and anaemia.
Anaemia in pregnant women causes 20 percent of infant mortality. More than half of the children under five are moderately or severely malnourished, or suffer from stunting.
Posted by meenug on
Wednesday October 14, 2009 04:39 am
Quote "We owe a lot to the indians, for they taught us how to count, without which no worthwhile scientific discovery could have been made." - ALBERT EINSTEIN.
The place value system, the decimal system was developed in India dating back to at least 100 BC.
The State bank of India is the world’s largest Bank in terms of branches.
There are over 70,000 bank branches in India - among the highest in the world.
India lanches its own satelites as well as foreign.
India is the sixth nation which manufactures nclear submarines.
Indians are the richest immigrant class in the US, with nearly 200,000 millionaires. From a sample of 2004 US Census based surveys, Asians are the highest earning subgroup with a median income of $57,518 compared to the national average of $44,389.
India has the second-largest pool of scientists and engineers in the world.
There are 8,500 Indian restaurants in the UK, 15% of the country's total dining-out establishments.
Of the Fortune 500 companies, 220 outsource their software-related work to India.
It is the second-largest cement-producing country in the world, producing more than 110m tonnes.
Indian Railways is the largest employer in the world, with a staff of 1.6 million people.
India makes its own super computers: Computational Research Laboratories, TATA SONS (number 18 on top 500 list)
Six Indian ladies have won Miss Universe/Miss World titles over the past 10 years. No other country has won more than twice.
Bank deposits in India roughly equal 50% of its GDP OE again, among the highest in the world.
Indian Railways is the largest railway network in the world under single management.
India has the third-largest army in the world, nearly 1.5 million strong.
India is the largest producer and consumer of tea in the world, accounting for more than 30% of global production and 25% of consumption.
India is the world's premier centre for diamond cutting and polishing. Nine out of every 10 stones sold in the world pass through India.
India has the highest number of annual bulk drugs filings (77) with USFDA.
India is home to the largest number of pharmaceutical plants (61) approved by USFDA outside the US.
India's Hero Honda is the world's largest motorcycle manufacturer, with 2002 production of 1.7m units.
India consumes a fifth of the world's gold output.
Comprende senior google chacha ???
The place value system, the decimal system was developed in India dating back to at least 100 BC.
The State bank of India is the world’s largest Bank in terms of branches.
There are over 70,000 bank branches in India - among the highest in the world.
India lanches its own satelites as well as foreign.
India is the sixth nation which manufactures nclear submarines.
Indians are the richest immigrant class in the US, with nearly 200,000 millionaires. From a sample of 2004 US Census based surveys, Asians are the highest earning subgroup with a median income of $57,518 compared to the national average of $44,389.
India has the second-largest pool of scientists and engineers in the world.
There are 8,500 Indian restaurants in the UK, 15% of the country's total dining-out establishments.
Of the Fortune 500 companies, 220 outsource their software-related work to India.
It is the second-largest cement-producing country in the world, producing more than 110m tonnes.
Indian Railways is the largest employer in the world, with a staff of 1.6 million people.
India makes its own super computers: Computational Research Laboratories, TATA SONS (number 18 on top 500 list)
Six Indian ladies have won Miss Universe/Miss World titles over the past 10 years. No other country has won more than twice.
Bank deposits in India roughly equal 50% of its GDP OE again, among the highest in the world.
Indian Railways is the largest railway network in the world under single management.
India has the third-largest army in the world, nearly 1.5 million strong.
India is the largest producer and consumer of tea in the world, accounting for more than 30% of global production and 25% of consumption.
India is the world's premier centre for diamond cutting and polishing. Nine out of every 10 stones sold in the world pass through India.
India has the highest number of annual bulk drugs filings (77) with USFDA.
India is home to the largest number of pharmaceutical plants (61) approved by USFDA outside the US.
India's Hero Honda is the world's largest motorcycle manufacturer, with 2002 production of 1.7m units.
India consumes a fifth of the world's gold output.
Comprende senior google chacha ???
Posted by meenug on
Tuesday October 13, 2009 11:37 pm
####Pakistan ranks 131 vs India at 146 in users per 1000 population for 212 nations.#####
Indians are not like Pakistanis, we dont have dial up connections here anymore.....its the thing of the past.
Come to broadband where India leaves Pakistan way behind in per capita....
Boradband usage per capita:
# 1 Korea, South: 2.466 per 10 people
# 31 India: 0.006 per 10 people
Pakistan is nowhere - must be at the bottom....hence no mention....
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/int_bro_acc_percap-internet-bro adband-access-per-capita
Got it my namby pamby google chacha....???
Indians are not like Pakistanis, we dont have dial up connections here anymore.....its the thing of the past.
Come to broadband where India leaves Pakistan way behind in per capita....
Boradband usage per capita:
# 1 Korea, South: 2.466 per 10 people
# 31 India: 0.006 per 10 people
Pakistan is nowhere - must be at the bottom....hence no mention....
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/int_bro_acc_percap-internet-bro adband-access-per-capita
Got it my namby pamby google chacha....???
Posted by bhs75 on
Tuesday October 13, 2009 09:59 pm
riaz sb. sir g, you have disturbed the hornest nest :)
Posted by RiazHaq on
Tuesday October 13, 2009 02:35 pm
On cell phones ranking, Pakistan with 510 per 1000 people ranks 121, well ahead of India at 159 with 258 phones per 1000 people.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/med_tel_mob_cel_percap-telephones-mobile-c ellular-per-capita
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/med_tel_mob_cel_percap-telephones-mobile-c ellular-per-capita
Posted by RiazHaq on
Tuesday October 13, 2009 01:48 pm
Since you prefer Nationamaster over ITU, here's the relevant Nationmaster data on Internet Access that we started with:
Pakistan ranks 131 vs India at 146 in users per 1000 population for 212 nations.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/int_use_percap-internet-users-per- capita
Pakistan ranks 131 vs India at 146 in users per 1000 population for 212 nations.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/int_use_percap-internet-users-per- capita
Posted by meenug on
Tuesday October 13, 2009 11:37 am
######Think about how these numbers are relevant in terms of access to Internet for the broader population in your beloved country versus the much smaller population of your neighbor and object of hate Pakistan.#######
I have given you per capita figures too where available, and there to Pakistan is behind India LOL
Newspaper circulation per capita:
# 28 India: 54.6376 per 1,000 people
# 31 Pakistan: 34.2245 per 1,000 people
Boradband usage per capita:
# 1 Korea, South: 2.466 per 10 people
# 31 India: 0.006 per 10 people
Pakistan is nowhere - must be at the bottom....hence no mention....
You can always do the math when there is no availablity of per capita figurs as india is 6 times your population - its so simple - does not require a rocket science LOL
FOR EXAMPLE:
Mbps (most recent) by country.....
# 1 United States: 970,953.5 Mbps
# 28 India: 20,000 Mbps
# 30 Russia: 14,365 Mbps
# 66 Pakistan: 800 Mbps
Now even if you multiply by 6 what figure do u get here? see you are way down when it comes to internet (broadband and MBPS)
So dont pretend....I thought u r educated - but u lack maths - what can i do...my namby pamby google chacha
I have given you per capita figures too where available, and there to Pakistan is behind India LOL
Newspaper circulation per capita:
# 28 India: 54.6376 per 1,000 people
# 31 Pakistan: 34.2245 per 1,000 people
Boradband usage per capita:
# 1 Korea, South: 2.466 per 10 people
# 31 India: 0.006 per 10 people
Pakistan is nowhere - must be at the bottom....hence no mention....
You can always do the math when there is no availablity of per capita figurs as india is 6 times your population - its so simple - does not require a rocket science LOL
FOR EXAMPLE:
Mbps (most recent) by country.....
# 1 United States: 970,953.5 Mbps
# 28 India: 20,000 Mbps
# 30 Russia: 14,365 Mbps
# 66 Pakistan: 800 Mbps
Now even if you multiply by 6 what figure do u get here? see you are way down when it comes to internet (broadband and MBPS)
So dont pretend....I thought u r educated - but u lack maths - what can i do...my namby pamby google chacha
Posted by meenug on
Tuesday October 13, 2009 11:29 am
According to a NASSCOM-McKinsey report, annual revenue projections for India’s IT industry in 2008 are US $ 87 billion and market openings are emerging across four broad sectors, IT services, software products, IT enabled services, and e-businesses thus creating a number of opportunities for Indian companies. In addition to the export market, all of these segments have a domestic market component as well.
India’s most prized resource in in today’s knowledge economy is its readily available technical work force. India has the second largest English-speaking scientific professionals in the world, second only to the U.S.
It is estimated that India has over 4 million technical workers, over 1,832 educational institutions and polytechnics, which train more than 67,785 computer software professionals every year.
Government of India is stepping up the number and quality of training facilities in the country to capitalize on this extraordinary human resource. It is the knowledge industry that will help take the Indian economy to a sustained higher rate of growth and the policy makers are fully aware of this.
And Pakistan¨s total exports were for the last year?
Paltry 13 billion dollars.....while imports 22 billions LOL
India´s IT sector is whopping 87 Billions....with 30 pcnt yearly jump India will be making close to 200 billions just alone from IT exports in less than decade.....while pakis are loosing 9 billions every year as a result of trade deficit...hence the lota to IMF-WB every 6 months LOL
Pakistan is a peanut country versus India in terms of technology.
Which Indian software company is associated with the design of worlds largest aircraft Airbus A380?
INFOSYS
Airbus Engineering Centre India
The Airbus Engineering Centre India is part of EADS Technology Centre India. The latter is a campus-style institution, which will bring both the EADS subsidiaries and the Indian partners under the same roof, performing engineering and information technology services.
Central to the EADS campus will be the state-of-the-art Airbus Engineering Centre India, a 100% owned subsidiary of Airbus. It focuses on high-end engineering analysis and design, and will eventually work closely with several Indian aeronautic suppliers.
The EADS Technology Centre India will become a major employer in the aerospace and defence sector in India with the potential to create up to 2,000 jobs. Over the next 15 years, the volume of investment and high-tech activities generated thanks to the EADS Technology Centre, including the Airbus Engineering Centre and other cooperation programmes will reach approx. INR 11,000 Crores (€ 2 billion).
Airbus set to transfer majority of engineering, design work to India
http://www.livemint.com/2009/10/11223910/Airbus-set-to-transfer-majorit .html
What does it take to build the biggest, tallest and longest liner in the world? Follow the high-tech construction of the $800 million giant of the ocean.
The entire luxary liners airconditioning and referigeration was done by Indian engineering company with 225 workers
http://www.downarchive.com/2009/09/05/national-geographic-megastructu res-queen-mary-2.html
Stay tuned google chacha....more to come...dont loose yr remote.......
India’s most prized resource in in today’s knowledge economy is its readily available technical work force. India has the second largest English-speaking scientific professionals in the world, second only to the U.S.
It is estimated that India has over 4 million technical workers, over 1,832 educational institutions and polytechnics, which train more than 67,785 computer software professionals every year.
Government of India is stepping up the number and quality of training facilities in the country to capitalize on this extraordinary human resource. It is the knowledge industry that will help take the Indian economy to a sustained higher rate of growth and the policy makers are fully aware of this.
And Pakistan¨s total exports were for the last year?
Paltry 13 billion dollars.....while imports 22 billions LOL
India´s IT sector is whopping 87 Billions....with 30 pcnt yearly jump India will be making close to 200 billions just alone from IT exports in less than decade.....while pakis are loosing 9 billions every year as a result of trade deficit...hence the lota to IMF-WB every 6 months LOL
Pakistan is a peanut country versus India in terms of technology.
Which Indian software company is associated with the design of worlds largest aircraft Airbus A380?
INFOSYS
Airbus Engineering Centre India
The Airbus Engineering Centre India is part of EADS Technology Centre India. The latter is a campus-style institution, which will bring both the EADS subsidiaries and the Indian partners under the same roof, performing engineering and information technology services.
Central to the EADS campus will be the state-of-the-art Airbus Engineering Centre India, a 100% owned subsidiary of Airbus. It focuses on high-end engineering analysis and design, and will eventually work closely with several Indian aeronautic suppliers.
The EADS Technology Centre India will become a major employer in the aerospace and defence sector in India with the potential to create up to 2,000 jobs. Over the next 15 years, the volume of investment and high-tech activities generated thanks to the EADS Technology Centre, including the Airbus Engineering Centre and other cooperation programmes will reach approx. INR 11,000 Crores (€ 2 billion).
Airbus set to transfer majority of engineering, design work to India
http://www.livemint.com/2009/10/11223910/Airbus-set-to-transfer-majorit .html
What does it take to build the biggest, tallest and longest liner in the world? Follow the high-tech construction of the $800 million giant of the ocean.
The entire luxary liners airconditioning and referigeration was done by Indian engineering company with 225 workers
http://www.downarchive.com/2009/09/05/national-geographic-megastructu res-queen-mary-2.html
Stay tuned google chacha....more to come...dont loose yr remote.......
Posted by RiazHaq on
Tuesday October 13, 2009 10:47 am
My dear bigots: You keep confirming your bigotry and lack of sophistication in how you find a quote any statistics. Think about how these numbers are relevant in terms of access to Internet for the broader population in your beloved country versus the much smaller population of your neighbor and object of hate Pakistan.
What you are doing reflects badly on your claims of better education than "pakis" and "muslas".
What you are doing reflects badly on your claims of better education than "pakis" and "muslas".
Posted by meenug on
Tuesday October 13, 2009 10:37 am
Mobile-cell phone peneteration worldwide:
# 1 China: 547,286,000 2007
# 3 India: 296,080,000 2008
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/med_tel_mob_cel-media-telephones-mobi le-cellular
Cinema attendance (most recent) by country
# 1 India: 2,860,000,000
# 2 United States: 1,421,000,000
Pakistan nowhere among 78 countries listed.....
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/med_cin_att-media-cinema-attend ance
Films produced....
# 1 India: 946
# 2 United States: 611
# 3 Japan: 310
# 11 Bangladesh: 90
= 24 Pakistan: 25
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/med_fil_pro-media-films-produced
Newspa per circulation per capita:
# 28 India: 54.6376 per 1,000 people
# 31 Pakistan: 34.2245 per 1,000 people
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/med_new_cir_percap-media-newspaper-circula tion-per-capita
Number of TVs (most recent) by country:
# 1 China: 400,000,000
# 2 United States: 219,000,000
# 3 Japan: 86,500,000
# 4 India: 63,000,000
49 Pakistan: 3,100,000
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/med_tel-media-televisions
Radios:
# 1 United States: 575,000,000
# 2 China: 417,000,000
# 3 Japan: 120,500,000
# 4 India: 116,000,000
# 29 Pakistan: 13,500,000
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/med_rad-media-radios
So, as I said, take your lies somewhere and vacate this place as soon as possible Mr namby pamby google chacha......
# 1 China: 547,286,000 2007
# 3 India: 296,080,000 2008
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/med_tel_mob_cel-media-telephones-mobi le-cellular
Cinema attendance (most recent) by country
# 1 India: 2,860,000,000
# 2 United States: 1,421,000,000
Pakistan nowhere among 78 countries listed.....
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/med_cin_att-media-cinema-attend ance
Films produced....
# 1 India: 946
# 2 United States: 611
# 3 Japan: 310
# 11 Bangladesh: 90
= 24 Pakistan: 25
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/med_fil_pro-media-films-produced
Newspa per circulation per capita:
# 28 India: 54.6376 per 1,000 people
# 31 Pakistan: 34.2245 per 1,000 people
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/med_new_cir_percap-media-newspaper-circula tion-per-capita
Number of TVs (most recent) by country:
# 1 China: 400,000,000
# 2 United States: 219,000,000
# 3 Japan: 86,500,000
# 4 India: 63,000,000
49 Pakistan: 3,100,000
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/med_tel-media-televisions
Radios:
# 1 United States: 575,000,000
# 2 China: 417,000,000
# 3 Japan: 120,500,000
# 4 India: 116,000,000
# 29 Pakistan: 13,500,000
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/med_rad-media-radios
So, as I said, take your lies somewhere and vacate this place as soon as possible Mr namby pamby google chacha......
Posted by meenug on
Tuesday October 13, 2009 10:14 am
Broadband access (most recent) by country.....
# 1 United States: 40,876,000
# 31 India: 623,000
Pakistan is nowhere....
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/int_bro_acc-internet-broadband- access
Boradband usage per capita:
# 1 Korea, South: 2.466 per 10 people
# 31 India: 0.006 per 10 people
Pakistan is nowhere - must be at the bottom....hence no mention....
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/int_bro_acc_percap-internet-bro adband-access-per-capita
So as I said, take your lies somewhere and vacate this place as soon as possible Mr namby pamby google chacha......
# 1 United States: 40,876,000
# 31 India: 623,000
Pakistan is nowhere....
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/int_bro_acc-internet-broadband- access
Boradband usage per capita:
# 1 Korea, South: 2.466 per 10 people
# 31 India: 0.006 per 10 people
Pakistan is nowhere - must be at the bottom....hence no mention....
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/int_bro_acc_percap-internet-bro adband-access-per-capita
So as I said, take your lies somewhere and vacate this place as soon as possible Mr namby pamby google chacha......
Posted by meenug on
Tuesday October 13, 2009 10:04 am
Mbps (most recent) by country.....
# 1 United States: 970,953.5 Mbps
# 28 India: 20,000 Mbps
# 30 Russia: 14,365 Mbps
# 66 Pakistan: 800 Mbps
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/int_int_int_ban_mbp-internet-international -bandwidth-mbps
Internet Service Providers (most recent) by country......
# 1 United States: 7,000
# 27 India: 43
# 38 Pakistan: 30
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/int_int_ser_pro-internet-service-providers
Nobody uses a dial-up service now a days - its all broadband my friend!
So as I said, take your lies somewhere and vacate this place as soon as possible Mr namby pamby google chacha......
# 1 United States: 970,953.5 Mbps
# 28 India: 20,000 Mbps
# 30 Russia: 14,365 Mbps
# 66 Pakistan: 800 Mbps
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/int_int_int_ban_mbp-internet-international -bandwidth-mbps
Internet Service Providers (most recent) by country......
# 1 United States: 7,000
# 27 India: 43
# 38 Pakistan: 30
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/int_int_ser_pro-internet-service-providers
Nobody uses a dial-up service now a days - its all broadband my friend!
So as I said, take your lies somewhere and vacate this place as soon as possible Mr namby pamby google chacha......
Posted by RiazHaq on
Tuesday October 13, 2009 09:21 am
Dear Crude and Unsophisticated Band of Bigots:
Please try and live up to the high expectations as you are the privileged few in India with Internet access(less than 7% Internet penetration in India vs 11% in Pak per ITU), supposedly among the best educated Indians in the world.
Meanwhile, go feed your hungry or contribute to Akshaya Patra, clothe your naked before exporting your textiles for dollars, help Habitat for Humanity build a few houses for your fellow homeless Indians, work with UNICEF to build a few more toilets and sanitation infrastructure that your democracy is unable to deliver, train doctors to help your sick before they do dangerous, untested stem cell procedures on foreign patients, and take care of the growing gender gap in literacy that is leaving your women far behind their fellow illiterate male counterparts.
And please stop the ongoing female infanticide that has reduced female births in parts of India to about 300 baby girls for 1000 baby boys.
Stop hyperventilating. You have a lot of work to do. Good Luck!!
Please try and live up to the high expectations as you are the privileged few in India with Internet access(less than 7% Internet penetration in India vs 11% in Pak per ITU), supposedly among the best educated Indians in the world.
Meanwhile, go feed your hungry or contribute to Akshaya Patra, clothe your naked before exporting your textiles for dollars, help Habitat for Humanity build a few houses for your fellow homeless Indians, work with UNICEF to build a few more toilets and sanitation infrastructure that your democracy is unable to deliver, train doctors to help your sick before they do dangerous, untested stem cell procedures on foreign patients, and take care of the growing gender gap in literacy that is leaving your women far behind their fellow illiterate male counterparts.
And please stop the ongoing female infanticide that has reduced female births in parts of India to about 300 baby girls for 1000 baby boys.
Stop hyperventilating. You have a lot of work to do. Good Luck!!
Posted by meenug on
Tuesday October 13, 2009 09:02 am
####and take care of the growing gender gap in literacy that is leaving your women far behind their fellow illiterate male counterparts.
#####
I thought you conceded in your post that Pakistanis are infact behind India in literacy rate right? so save the above message for your illiterate madersa educated wannabe jehadis compatriots pls mr google chacha....
This google can make million Pakaluminium LOL
#####
I thought you conceded in your post that Pakistanis are infact behind India in literacy rate right? so save the above message for your illiterate madersa educated wannabe jehadis compatriots pls mr google chacha....
This google can make million Pakaluminium LOL
Posted by RiazHaq on
Tuesday October 13, 2009 08:21 am
My Dear Band of Bigots,
Please save some of your venom for my future posts, don't use it all up now. Your venom may or may not work when you need it again.
Meanwhile, go feed your hungry or contribute to Akshaya Patra, clothe your naked before exporting your textiles, help Habitat for Humanity build a few houses for your fellow homeless Indians, work with UNICEF to build a few more toilets and sanitation infrastructure, train doctors to help your sick before they do dangerous, untested stem cell procedures on foreign patients, and take care of the growing gender gap in literacy that is leaving your women far behind their fellow illiterate male counterparts.
Stop hyperventilating. You have a lot of work to do. Good Luck!!
Please save some of your venom for my future posts, don't use it all up now. Your venom may or may not work when you need it again.
Meanwhile, go feed your hungry or contribute to Akshaya Patra, clothe your naked before exporting your textiles, help Habitat for Humanity build a few houses for your fellow homeless Indians, work with UNICEF to build a few more toilets and sanitation infrastructure, train doctors to help your sick before they do dangerous, untested stem cell procedures on foreign patients, and take care of the growing gender gap in literacy that is leaving your women far behind their fellow illiterate male counterparts.
Stop hyperventilating. You have a lot of work to do. Good Luck!!
Posted by meenug on
Tuesday October 13, 2009 04:16 am
Which is the only religion in the World which does not allow its followers the freedom to change faith.
Which religion slaugthers mammals (live) inside their holy shrines?
which religion allows to marry four wives and divorce them by uttering only a few words?
which religion feed evil spirits and jinns annually through mass sacrifical feast?
which religions used government funds to build their holy shrines?
which religion goes around killing others in the name of religion?
Which religion´s scriprture exhorts thier follower (women) to be covered from head to toe?
Which religion says its okey to behead humans?
Which religion says its okey to keep slaves a la bilal?
Which religion slaugthers mammals (live) inside their holy shrines?
which religion allows to marry four wives and divorce them by uttering only a few words?
which religion feed evil spirits and jinns annually through mass sacrifical feast?
which religions used government funds to build their holy shrines?
which religion goes around killing others in the name of religion?
Which religion´s scriprture exhorts thier follower (women) to be covered from head to toe?
Which religion says its okey to behead humans?
Which religion says its okey to keep slaves a la bilal?
Posted by meenug on
Tuesday October 13, 2009 02:30 am
##William Dalrymple##
He is not neutral because he is anti India, Gaurdian is known to write anti Indian stuff.....
Following observation is from a moslem Pakistani living in UK:
Pakistan is not a nation in any sense of the word. The government can't challenge the authority of its own created terror groups. Its courts don't recognise any sensitivity to their comments and actions. ISI and Army keep forcing the civilian government to go back on its stated stance. Its ministers in the government keep giving different versions of the same events. Its people are brain washed to believe that LeT is a charity organization, and hence enjoys grass root level support and sympathy. Its madarasa's bring up young minds to hate hindu's and jews , along with anything western. Pakistan's proven involvement in Kabul Embassy bombing of the Indian Embassy was taking place at a time when the Pakistani government was professing its complete and dedicated support for rebuilding Afganistan. 75% of all terror plots in the UK are linked , directly to Pakistan. It has terrorist havens and shelters for all criminals, terrorits and most of interpol's most wanted people. Its nuclear secrets, which they incidently have stolen from other countries,has been sold to most of the rogue states, who have money. Upto 80% of all US assitance to Pakistan has been used to build conventional parity with India as Musharaf did agree. The list goes on, its time world realises they can't allow all this to continue. DON'T feed the monster.
Just compare Karachi with Mumbai and see the stark difference in real state prices and other stuff......Now do you think Karachi is one up on Mumbai overall with Asia´s biggest slum ORANGI as per UNDP ?
Have you lost your common sense google chacha......and relying on foreign sources selectively to prove your point?
If thats the game you wanna play, then why did not you reply my post wherein I gave you many non indian options ?
When it suits yourself, you do it, and once you seem to be at disadvantage, you are like a slippery eel LOL
He is not neutral because he is anti India, Gaurdian is known to write anti Indian stuff.....
Following observation is from a moslem Pakistani living in UK:
Pakistan is not a nation in any sense of the word. The government can't challenge the authority of its own created terror groups. Its courts don't recognise any sensitivity to their comments and actions. ISI and Army keep forcing the civilian government to go back on its stated stance. Its ministers in the government keep giving different versions of the same events. Its people are brain washed to believe that LeT is a charity organization, and hence enjoys grass root level support and sympathy. Its madarasa's bring up young minds to hate hindu's and jews , along with anything western. Pakistan's proven involvement in Kabul Embassy bombing of the Indian Embassy was taking place at a time when the Pakistani government was professing its complete and dedicated support for rebuilding Afganistan. 75% of all terror plots in the UK are linked , directly to Pakistan. It has terrorist havens and shelters for all criminals, terrorits and most of interpol's most wanted people. Its nuclear secrets, which they incidently have stolen from other countries,has been sold to most of the rogue states, who have money. Upto 80% of all US assitance to Pakistan has been used to build conventional parity with India as Musharaf did agree. The list goes on, its time world realises they can't allow all this to continue. DON'T feed the monster.
Just compare Karachi with Mumbai and see the stark difference in real state prices and other stuff......Now do you think Karachi is one up on Mumbai overall with Asia´s biggest slum ORANGI as per UNDP ?
Have you lost your common sense google chacha......and relying on foreign sources selectively to prove your point?
If thats the game you wanna play, then why did not you reply my post wherein I gave you many non indian options ?
When it suits yourself, you do it, and once you seem to be at disadvantage, you are like a slippery eel LOL
Posted by nkg on
Tuesday October 13, 2009 02:08 am
raiz kattu....
why to go to yankees and guardian etc. etc. to know how Pakis are?
why to go to yankees and guardian etc. etc. to know how Pakis are?
Posted by nkg on
Tuesday October 13, 2009 02:07 am
oops...
http://www.gm.com/experience/technology/research/global_rd_network/inde x.jsp
http://www.gm.com/experience/technology/research/global_rd_network/inde x.jsp
Posted by nkg on
Tuesday October 13, 2009 01:56 am
oops...missed jewel in the crown, google labs, bangalore...
http://labs.google.co.in/
even you aaardoo/ooordooo stuff is taken care here in B'lore....
http://labs.google.co.in/
even you aaardoo/ooordooo stuff is taken care here in B'lore....
Posted by nkg on
Tuesday October 13, 2009 01:53 am
riaz kattu...
I agree with you. but what these musla countries are doing with higher literacy rate?
http://www.hpl.hp.com/israel/
http://www.research.ibm.com/
http://res earch.microsoft.com/en-us/
http://techresearch.intel.com/articles/None/1475.htm
http://research.nokia.com/locations/index.html
http://www.ge.com/research/grc _3.html
What is common?
Pakiland and other musla countries are missing and search for Bangalore, India....
I agree with you. but what these musla countries are doing with higher literacy rate?
http://www.hpl.hp.com/israel/
http://www.research.ibm.com/
http://res earch.microsoft.com/en-us/
http://techresearch.intel.com/articles/None/1475.htm
http://research.nokia.com/locations/index.html
http://www.ge.com/research/grc _3.html
What is common?
Pakiland and other musla countries are missing and search for Bangalore, India....
Posted by nkg on
Tuesday October 13, 2009 01:42 am
riaz kattu...
OK, fine, but have you noticed this year's Nobel awerdees list?
OK, fine, but have you noticed this year's Nobel awerdees list?
Posted by meenug on
Tuesday October 13, 2009 01:18 am
##William Dalrymple##
He is not neutral because he is anti India, Gaurdian is known to write anti Indian stuff.....
Following observation is from a moslem Pakistani living in UK:
Pakistan is not a nation in any sense of the word. The government can't challenge the authority of its own created terror groups. Its courts don't recognise any sensitivity to their comments and actions. ISI and Army keep forcing the civilian government to go back on its stated stance. Its ministers in the government keep giving different versions of the same events. Its people are brain washed to believe that LeT is a charity organization, and hence enjoys grass root level support and sympathy. Its madarasa's bring up young minds to hate hindu's and jews , along with anything western. Pakistan's proven involvement in Kabul Embassy bombing of the Indian Embassy was taking place at a time when the Pakistani government was professing its complete and dedicated support for rebuilding Afganistan. 75% of all terror plots in the UK are linked , directly to Pakistan. It has terrorist havens and shelters for all criminals, terrorits and most of interpol's most wanted people. Its nuclear secrets, which they incidently have stolen from other countries,has been sold to most of the rogue states, who have money. Upto 80% of all US assitance to Pakistan has been used to build conventional parity with India as Musharaf did agree. The list goes on, its time world realises they can't allow all this to continue. DON'T feed the monster.
Just compare Karachi with Mumbai and see the stark difference in real state prices and other stuff......Now do you think Karachi is one up on Mumbai overall with Asia´s biggest slum ORANGI as per UNDP ?
Have you lost your common sense google chacha......and relying on foreign sources selectively to prove your point?
If thats the game you wanna play, then why did not you reply my post wherein I gave you many non indian options ?
When it suits yourself, you do it, and once you seem to be at disadvantage, you are like a slippery eel LOL
He is not neutral because he is anti India, Gaurdian is known to write anti Indian stuff.....
Following observation is from a moslem Pakistani living in UK:
Pakistan is not a nation in any sense of the word. The government can't challenge the authority of its own created terror groups. Its courts don't recognise any sensitivity to their comments and actions. ISI and Army keep forcing the civilian government to go back on its stated stance. Its ministers in the government keep giving different versions of the same events. Its people are brain washed to believe that LeT is a charity organization, and hence enjoys grass root level support and sympathy. Its madarasa's bring up young minds to hate hindu's and jews , along with anything western. Pakistan's proven involvement in Kabul Embassy bombing of the Indian Embassy was taking place at a time when the Pakistani government was professing its complete and dedicated support for rebuilding Afganistan. 75% of all terror plots in the UK are linked , directly to Pakistan. It has terrorist havens and shelters for all criminals, terrorits and most of interpol's most wanted people. Its nuclear secrets, which they incidently have stolen from other countries,has been sold to most of the rogue states, who have money. Upto 80% of all US assitance to Pakistan has been used to build conventional parity with India as Musharaf did agree. The list goes on, its time world realises they can't allow all this to continue. DON'T feed the monster.
Just compare Karachi with Mumbai and see the stark difference in real state prices and other stuff......Now do you think Karachi is one up on Mumbai overall with Asia´s biggest slum ORANGI as per UNDP ?
Have you lost your common sense google chacha......and relying on foreign sources selectively to prove your point?
If thats the game you wanna play, then why did not you reply my post wherein I gave you many non indian options ?
When it suits yourself, you do it, and once you seem to be at disadvantage, you are like a slippery eel LOL
Posted by meenug on
Tuesday October 13, 2009 12:41 am
#####PAKISTAN IS AHEAD OF INDIA IN FIVE OF THE SIX INDICATORS. #####
And these indicators are set by you.........Similarly I have given you many other indicators too where Pakistan is way behind......
So whats your problem google chacha....
And these indicators are set by you.........Similarly I have given you many other indicators too where Pakistan is way behind......
So whats your problem google chacha....
Posted by SPY on
Monday October 12, 2009 11:49 pm
Riaz says "2.1 million Indian children that die from lack of sanitation, according to UNICEF"
You are so much aware of India's problems.
Honestly why dont you help us fix this problem - for the children's sake. Allah would also feel happy see you doing some good work.
You are so much aware of India's problems.
Honestly why dont you help us fix this problem - for the children's sake. Allah would also feel happy see you doing some good work.
Posted by RiazHaq on
Monday October 12, 2009 09:57 pm
For the clueless Indian bigots who have not seen Pakistan and have no idea about how Pakistanis live, I often like to quote foreign observers, such as British author William Dalrymple, who visited and compared India and Pakistan last year and wrote as follows in the Guardian newspaper:
"On the ground, of course, the reality is different and first-time visitors to Pakistan are almost always surprised by the country's visible prosperity. There is far less poverty on show in Pakistan than in India, fewer beggars, and much less desperation. In many ways the infrastructure of Pakistan is much more advanced: there are better roads and airports, and more reliable electricity. Middle-class Pakistani houses are often bigger and better appointed than their equivalents in India.
Moreover, the Pakistani economy is undergoing a construction and consumer boom similar to India's, with growth rates of 7%, and what is currently the fastest-rising stock market in Asia. You can see the effects everywhere: in new shopping centers and restaurant complexes, in the hoardings for the latest laptops and iPods, in the cranes and building sites, in the endless stores selling mobile phones: in 2003 the country had fewer than three million cellphone users; today there are almost 50 million."
"On the ground, of course, the reality is different and first-time visitors to Pakistan are almost always surprised by the country's visible prosperity. There is far less poverty on show in Pakistan than in India, fewer beggars, and much less desperation. In many ways the infrastructure of Pakistan is much more advanced: there are better roads and airports, and more reliable electricity. Middle-class Pakistani houses are often bigger and better appointed than their equivalents in India.
Moreover, the Pakistani economy is undergoing a construction and consumer boom similar to India's, with growth rates of 7%, and what is currently the fastest-rising stock market in Asia. You can see the effects everywhere: in new shopping centers and restaurant complexes, in the hoardings for the latest laptops and iPods, in the cranes and building sites, in the endless stores selling mobile phones: in 2003 the country had fewer than three million cellphone users; today there are almost 50 million."
Posted by RiazHaq on
Monday October 12, 2009 07:13 pm
For the clueless bigots, here is a hint:
To help you comprehend this post, let me give you a gist of the post, once again. The post discusses six different indicators of life in any nation: Availability of food, clothing, shelter, sanitation, health care and education. The published data that I have shared with you shows that PAKISTAN IS AHEAD OF INDIA IN FIVE OF THE SIX INDICATORS. In education, however, Pakistan is marginally behind India, which itself suffers from low levels of literacy and wide gender gap resulting in very poor showing on the UNDP HDI this year, and in prior years. In fact, India dropped six places on the world rankings from a low of 128 to an even lower 134.
To help you comprehend this post, let me give you a gist of the post, once again. The post discusses six different indicators of life in any nation: Availability of food, clothing, shelter, sanitation, health care and education. The published data that I have shared with you shows that PAKISTAN IS AHEAD OF INDIA IN FIVE OF THE SIX INDICATORS. In education, however, Pakistan is marginally behind India, which itself suffers from low levels of literacy and wide gender gap resulting in very poor showing on the UNDP HDI this year, and in prior years. In fact, India dropped six places on the world rankings from a low of 128 to an even lower 134.
Posted by meenug on
Monday October 12, 2009 01:56 pm
There seems to be a problem here - post is duplicated - dont know how n why?
Posted by meenug on
Monday October 12, 2009 01:55 pm
You are talking about India, but what is in the following videos from Pakistani madersas man?????
BEHEADING 101
Here is a middle school boy taking his final exam practicals for his course “beheading 101” in the Binnouri Madarasa, Karachi Pakistan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=annX61fGYeU.
Beheading training obtained in Binnouri Madrasa came handy to another graduate, when his wife demanded divorce from him:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/024703.php.
India does not have such gruesome stuff.......
BEHEADING 101
Here is a middle school boy taking his final exam practicals for his course “beheading 101” in the Binnouri Madarasa, Karachi Pakistan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=annX61fGYeU.
Beheading training obtained in Binnouri Madrasa came handy to another graduate, when his wife demanded divorce from him:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/024703.php.
India does not have such gruesome stuff.......
Posted by meenug on
Monday October 12, 2009 01:03 pm
You are talking about India, but what is in the following videos from Pakistani madersas man?????
BEHEADING 101
Here is a middle school boy taking his final exam practicals for his course “beheading 101” in the Binnouri Madarasa, Karachi Pakistan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=annX61fGYeU.
Beheading training obtained in Binnouri Madrasa came handy to another graduate, when his wife demanded divorce from him:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/024703.php.
India does not have such gruesome stuff.......
BEHEADING 101
Here is a middle school boy taking his final exam practicals for his course “beheading 101” in the Binnouri Madarasa, Karachi Pakistan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=annX61fGYeU.
Beheading training obtained in Binnouri Madrasa came handy to another graduate, when his wife demanded divorce from him:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/024703.php.
India does not have such gruesome stuff.......
Posted by meenug on
Monday October 12, 2009 12:58 pm
###But don't forget the 2.1 million Indian children that die from lack of sanitation, according to UNICEF. ###
But the fact is Pakistanis are dying faster then Indians (all ages combined):
7.85 deaths/1,000 population (Pakistan)
6.4 deaths/1,000 population (India)
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/peo_dea_rat-people-death-rate
No w what say you google chacha ???
But the fact is Pakistanis are dying faster then Indians (all ages combined):
7.85 deaths/1,000 population (Pakistan)
6.4 deaths/1,000 population (India)
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/peo_dea_rat-people-death-rate
No w what say you google chacha ???
Posted by RiazHaq on
Monday October 12, 2009 12:56 pm
Bombay's greatest gifts to humanity are the vulgarity of Bollywood and the terrible filth and abject poverty of Dharavi. The rest is just footnotes to the overarching story of Slumdogs.
Posted by bharat25t on
Monday October 12, 2009 12:04 pm
Rest of all ur Muslim nations dont offer anything to this world where as Bombay offers enormous talent in Industries, education, research, wealth creation....
Ur model muslim countries may have millions but all those ppl are null and void until they come out of the psychosis called Quran and express themselves with free mind and contribute constructively to this world....
Look at the state of innovations in this Ultra rich Muslim model states...
Ur model muslim countries may have millions but all those ppl are null and void until they come out of the psychosis called Quran and express themselves with free mind and contribute constructively to this world....
Look at the state of innovations in this Ultra rich Muslim model states...
Posted by bharat25t on
Monday October 12, 2009 12:00 pm
Dont not take help from Kaafir lands such as Indonesia, Malaysia and ultra liberal Muslim nation such as Turkey..
Posted by RiazHaq on
Monday October 12, 2009 11:47 am
I didn't know that Indonesia, Malaysia, Iran, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Turkey are smaller than Bombay. Thank you for educating me as you hyperventilate with multiple copies of each of your comments.
You are so smart even when you are delirious, a shining example of the great Indian education.
You are so smart even when you are delirious, a shining example of the great Indian education.
Posted by bharat25t on
Monday October 12, 2009 11:25 am
Google Chacha.... All those Mulslim nations are not even the size of Bombay....India has a billion plus population. TO achieve good level of HDI first we have to clense the centuries old Islamic regressivism (that u pakis have inplenty) out of our systems Inshallah we will be successful at it. See in next 20 years what we will do with our country... Dekthe hi rah jaoge...
Coming to those Arab countries with good HDI....Shame on u to support those idiots who cant even refine oil reserves...With out oil and money thrown by Westerners at u dogs....all these nations would have been worst than Pakistan....
Dont you forget that before 1970 the Gr8 Dubai kings son died cos of no water to drink....they were that poor.. All of Arab country is just like "Kutthe Ko Mahal mein Bitaya"
kind...
See what happens when the world economy goes away from Oil.... the Arab dogs will be begging in the streets of Karachi.....inturn you Pakis will have to beg Indians and US to feed ur idiot Population
Coming to those Arab countries with good HDI....Shame on u to support those idiots who cant even refine oil reserves...With out oil and money thrown by Westerners at u dogs....all these nations would have been worst than Pakistan....
Dont you forget that before 1970 the Gr8 Dubai kings son died cos of no water to drink....they were that poor.. All of Arab country is just like "Kutthe Ko Mahal mein Bitaya"
kind...
See what happens when the world economy goes away from Oil.... the Arab dogs will be begging in the streets of Karachi.....inturn you Pakis will have to beg Indians and US to feed ur idiot Population
Posted by bharat25t on
Monday October 12, 2009 11:25 am
Google Chacha.... All those Mulslim nations are not even the size of Bombay....India has a billion plus population. TO achieve good level of HDI first we have to clense the centuries old Islamic regressivism (that u pakis have inplenty) out of our systems Inshallah we will be successful at it. See in next 20 years what we will do with our country... Dekthe hi rah jaoge...
Coming to those Arab countries with good HDI....Shame on u to support those idiots who cant even refine oil reserves...With out oil and money thrown by Westerners at u dogs....all these nations would have been worst than Pakistan....
Dont you forget that before 1970 the Gr8 Dubai kings son died cos of no water to drink....they were that poor.. All of Arab country is just like "Kutthe Ko Mahal mein Bitaya"
kind...
See what happens when the world economy goes away from Oil.... the Arab dogs will be begging in the streets of Karachi.....inturn you Pakis will have to beg Indians and US to feed ur idiot Population
Coming to those Arab countries with good HDI....Shame on u to support those idiots who cant even refine oil reserves...With out oil and money thrown by Westerners at u dogs....all these nations would have been worst than Pakistan....
Dont you forget that before 1970 the Gr8 Dubai kings son died cos of no water to drink....they were that poor.. All of Arab country is just like "Kutthe Ko Mahal mein Bitaya"
kind...
See what happens when the world economy goes away from Oil.... the Arab dogs will be begging in the streets of Karachi.....inturn you Pakis will have to beg Indians and US to feed ur idiot Population
Posted by bharat25t on
Monday October 12, 2009 11:23 am
Google Chacha.... All those Mulslim nations are not even the size of Bombay....India has a billion plus population. TO achieve good level of HDI first we have to clense the centuries old Islamic regressivism (that u pakis have inplenty) out of our systems Inshallah we will be successful at it. See in next 20 years what we will do with our country... Dekthe hi rah jaoge...
Coming to those Arab countries with good HDI....Shame on u to support those idiots who cant even refine oil reserves...With out oil and money thrown by Westerners at u dogs....all these nations would have been worst than Pakistan....
Dont you forget that before 1970 the Gr8 Dubai kings son died cos of no water to drink....they were that poor.. All of Arab country is just like "Kutthe Ko Mahal mein Bitaya"
kind...
See what happens when the world economy goes away from Oil.... the Arab dogs will be begging in the streets of Karachi.....inturn you Pakis will have to beg Indians and US to feed ur idiot Population
Coming to those Arab countries with good HDI....Shame on u to support those idiots who cant even refine oil reserves...With out oil and money thrown by Westerners at u dogs....all these nations would have been worst than Pakistan....
Dont you forget that before 1970 the Gr8 Dubai kings son died cos of no water to drink....they were that poor.. All of Arab country is just like "Kutthe Ko Mahal mein Bitaya"
kind...
See what happens when the world economy goes away from Oil.... the Arab dogs will be begging in the streets of Karachi.....inturn you Pakis will have to beg Indians and US to feed ur idiot Population
Posted by bharat25t on
Monday October 12, 2009 11:13 am
Do you read any pakistani news or is it only Indian websites that interests you.
See Pakistan is coming apart at the seams.... We Indians dint have to waste a single rupee or time on you.. you did it urself..... Ur Fav ppl the army mafia folks....did it for us...
Wonder whats ur existence...because....in ur hate against us kaafirs ppl like you create an atmosphere in Pakistan that the army has to do smthn sinister every day to India....With the current state of Pakistan.....
You along with ur Army are the biggest assests India has inside Pakstan.
We will lobby with our govt to consider u and ur army for a Padmashri award.
See Pakistan is coming apart at the seams.... We Indians dint have to waste a single rupee or time on you.. you did it urself..... Ur Fav ppl the army mafia folks....did it for us...
Wonder whats ur existence...because....in ur hate against us kaafirs ppl like you create an atmosphere in Pakistan that the army has to do smthn sinister every day to India....With the current state of Pakistan.....
You along with ur Army are the biggest assests India has inside Pakstan.
We will lobby with our govt to consider u and ur army for a Padmashri award.
Posted by RiazHaq on
Monday October 12, 2009 11:09 am
Just look at where India is on the UNDP HDI rankings...It's at 134, dropping six notches from last year.
Then look at where the vast majority of Muslim nations are: Well above India in terms of literacy, education, income levels, health etc.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index
Then look at where the vast majority of Muslim nations are: Well above India in terms of literacy, education, income levels, health etc.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index
Posted by bharat25t on
Monday October 12, 2009 11:06 am
So you are almost given up....Google Chacha.....
I have not known a person at ur age fulminate like this..... Elders are suppose to have been there done that kind with worldly knowledge, mental maturity....
It clearly shows that most followers of Islam dont get that maturity ever..... because there minds are so brain washed that any element of saneness is Haraam.
I have not known a person at ur age fulminate like this..... Elders are suppose to have been there done that kind with worldly knowledge, mental maturity....
It clearly shows that most followers of Islam dont get that maturity ever..... because there minds are so brain washed that any element of saneness is Haraam.
Posted by meenug on
Monday October 12, 2009 11:01 am
###But don't forget the 2.1 million Indian children that die from lack of sanitation, according to UNICEF. ###
But the fact is Pakistanis are dying faster then Indians (all ages combined):
7.85 deaths/1,000 population (Pakistan)
6.4 deaths/1,000 population (India)
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/peo_dea_rat-people-death-rate
No w what say you google chacha ???
But the fact is Pakistanis are dying faster then Indians (all ages combined):
7.85 deaths/1,000 population (Pakistan)
6.4 deaths/1,000 population (India)
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/peo_dea_rat-people-death-rate
No w what say you google chacha ???
Posted by meenug on
Monday October 12, 2009 10:56 am
Allah thru PRO MO proclaimed that he will accept only Islam as religion. All others are non- believers and they will get severe punishment right here in this world and hereafter. So it follows that only muslims will prosper. All other religionists are doomed. But in reality, what do we see?
Muslims are the most affected by poverty, natural calamities, scarcity of resourses, illiteracy, low level of development etc., etc. Of course, a few Islamic countries have prospered with the discovery of oil.( To dig and extract it from earth also, these people needed kafers assistance!) Without kafer technology and kafer help this GCC ummah would have been different!
According to PRO MO, people who believe in a multiplicity of Gods like the hindus are the most wretched. But, look at the progress India, mostly inhabited by the hindus, has made!
What is the position of muslims who opted to live in a different country of their own, named Pakistan, literally meaning the pure land, which was carved out of the undivided India in 1947? If we analyse, the inescapable conclusion we reach is that Allah is not performing well.
Many of his (Allah-Quran_Prophet) assertions and promises are turning wrong day by day as kafers are thriving and living a better life than momeens. It has been so, for the last so many centuries. When they wage war with the non- believers, Allah the Great promised that he will send his troops also( malaks) to join with the believers read Muslims and crush the non- believers. But, these things have not happened ever since the invention of dynamite by the Europeans.
The muslims (who are living under the denial) are deficient in so many things including common sense. So they still believe that their beloved Allah will deliver the goods. Let them live in thier (fools') paradise. However, some intelligent people at times wake up and come out of that paradise. Let us welcome them!
Mr RiazHaq aka google chacha, are you coming on board ??
Muslims are the most affected by poverty, natural calamities, scarcity of resourses, illiteracy, low level of development etc., etc. Of course, a few Islamic countries have prospered with the discovery of oil.( To dig and extract it from earth also, these people needed kafers assistance!) Without kafer technology and kafer help this GCC ummah would have been different!
According to PRO MO, people who believe in a multiplicity of Gods like the hindus are the most wretched. But, look at the progress India, mostly inhabited by the hindus, has made!
What is the position of muslims who opted to live in a different country of their own, named Pakistan, literally meaning the pure land, which was carved out of the undivided India in 1947? If we analyse, the inescapable conclusion we reach is that Allah is not performing well.
Many of his (Allah-Quran_Prophet) assertions and promises are turning wrong day by day as kafers are thriving and living a better life than momeens. It has been so, for the last so many centuries. When they wage war with the non- believers, Allah the Great promised that he will send his troops also( malaks) to join with the believers read Muslims and crush the non- believers. But, these things have not happened ever since the invention of dynamite by the Europeans.
The muslims (who are living under the denial) are deficient in so many things including common sense. So they still believe that their beloved Allah will deliver the goods. Let them live in thier (fools') paradise. However, some intelligent people at times wake up and come out of that paradise. Let us welcome them!
Mr RiazHaq aka google chacha, are you coming on board ??
Posted by RiazHaq on
Monday October 12, 2009 10:34 am
It's interesting to see the band of bigots hyperventilate like this. Keep it up, guys!! It's good entertainment!!
But don't forget the 2.1 million Indian children that die from lack of sanitation, according to UNICEF.
http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/uncategorized/india-trails-pakistan-bang ladesh-in-sanitation_100120219.html
But don't forget the 2.1 million Indian children that die from lack of sanitation, according to UNICEF.
http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/uncategorized/india-trails-pakistan-bang ladesh-in-sanitation_100120219.html
Posted by meenug on
Monday October 12, 2009 10:25 am
Here are just some statistics on recent Muslim achievements and they "expect no criticism":
Muslims murdered some 4,000 innocent peoples in New York on September 11, 2001, and..... Expect no criticism!
Muslims murder 202 tourists in Bali, and........... Expect no criticism!
Muslims murder 333 school children and their teachers in Beslan, and.........Expect no criticism!
Muslims murder 292 innocents, mainly Kenyans and Tanzanians at two US Embassies, .......And expect no criticism!
Muslims murder 241 US and 58 French peacekeepers in Beirut, and..... Expect no criticism!
Muslims fire 4,000 Katyusha/Stinger rockets into Northern Israel killing over 50 innocent civilians, and............ Expect no criticism!
Muslims murder 52 commuters in London and 191 in Madrid, and..... Expect no criticism!
Muslims murder some 200 people in Mumbai, and......... Expect no criticism!
Muslims behead Western hostages in Iraq, Buddhist monks in Thailand and Christian schoolgirls in Indonesia, and............. Expect no Criticism!
Muslim genocide in Sudan has claimed over 3 million lives since mid-1980; they massacred nearly 500,000 in Darfur since 2004, and........... Expect no criticism!
Muslims regard Jews as 'sons of pigs and monkeys', and vow to nuke Israel out of existence, and.......... Expect no criticism!
Muslims force women to wear hideous conical sacks, stone to death for getting raped and for leaving their homes unescorted, engage in honor-killing of sisters and daughters for unapproved dating/marriages, and...... Expect no criticism!
Muslims danced in the streets and handed out sweets to their kids to celebrate the 9/11 atrocity, and......... Expect no Criticism!
Since 9/11, Muslims have killed over 26,000 and wounded over 150,000 in terrorist attacks worldwide, and............ Still Expect no Criticism!
Since 9/11 Muslims have committed terrorist attacks in Afghanistan, Algeria, Bangladesh, Belgium, Chad, Chechnya, Dagestan, Denmark, East Timor, Egypt, England, Eritrea, Ethiopia, France, Germany, India, Indonesia, Ingushetia, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Jordan, Jordan-Iraq, Kabardino-Balkans, Kenya, Kosovo, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Lebanon, Mauritania, Morocco, Netherlands, Nigeria, Pakistan, Gaza-Palestinian Authority, Philippines, Qatar, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Scotland, Somalia, Spain, Sri Lanka , Sudan , Syria , Tajikistan, Thailand , Tunisia , Turkey , United Arab Emirates, United Arab Republic , United States , Uzbekistan and Yemen, and............ STILL Expect No Criticism!
Muslims have carried out over 13,000 fatal terrorist atrocities and damages to public and private buildings/vehicles since 9/11, and countless millions since the Islamic conquest began from 623 AD; and still they Expect No Criticism!
But if the Pope dares to tell the truth about Islam's history, or a Danish Newspaper publish cartoons of Mohammed, they let the outpourings of Islamic rage, and.......... Expect no criticism!
And, by some twisted reach of logics, these arrogant vandals demand apology from the Pope, and.......... Expect no criticism!
Is this fair?
Muslims expect us to just shut up and watch, while they do what their Holy Book, the Quran, teaches and preaches… “You do as you please”, and…… still Expect No Criticism!
Here is a countdown of "top- ten facts" about Islam in our world:
10. In Afghanistan ‘You’ grow and refine heroin for a living, and, yet, you have a moral objection to beer.
09. You own a $3,000 machine gun and a $5,000 rocket launcher, but you cannot afford to wear shoes.
08. You have more wives than teeth, and, yet, you want to rape more infidels.
07. You think vests come in two styles: bullet-proof and suicide jackets, and, yet, you want us to believe it is haram to kill.
06. You cannot think of anyone you HAVEN'T declared Jihad against, yet the Quran preaches harmony.
05. You consider television dangerous, and, yet, you routinely carry ammunition in your robe.
04. You've never been asked, "Does this burka/hijab make my butt look fat?", and, yet, you make it mandatory for your women folk to wear when leaving home.
03. You are amazed to discover that cell-phones have uses other than setting off roadside bombs, and, yet, the kuffar technology is ably used for that horrendous purpose.
02. You've never uttered the phrase, "I love what you've done with your cave", but yet you destroy infidel homes and their places of worships.
And, the NUMBER ONE SIGN you might be a member of the Taliban...
01. You wipe your rear with mud-stones, and, yet, you consider all infidels are unclean Najis.
Muslims murdered some 4,000 innocent peoples in New York on September 11, 2001, and..... Expect no criticism!
Muslims murder 202 tourists in Bali, and........... Expect no criticism!
Muslims murder 333 school children and their teachers in Beslan, and.........Expect no criticism!
Muslims murder 292 innocents, mainly Kenyans and Tanzanians at two US Embassies, .......And expect no criticism!
Muslims murder 241 US and 58 French peacekeepers in Beirut, and..... Expect no criticism!
Muslims fire 4,000 Katyusha/Stinger rockets into Northern Israel killing over 50 innocent civilians, and............ Expect no criticism!
Muslims murder 52 commuters in London and 191 in Madrid, and..... Expect no criticism!
Muslims murder some 200 people in Mumbai, and......... Expect no criticism!
Muslims behead Western hostages in Iraq, Buddhist monks in Thailand and Christian schoolgirls in Indonesia, and............. Expect no Criticism!
Muslim genocide in Sudan has claimed over 3 million lives since mid-1980; they massacred nearly 500,000 in Darfur since 2004, and........... Expect no criticism!
Muslims regard Jews as 'sons of pigs and monkeys', and vow to nuke Israel out of existence, and.......... Expect no criticism!
Muslims force women to wear hideous conical sacks, stone to death for getting raped and for leaving their homes unescorted, engage in honor-killing of sisters and daughters for unapproved dating/marriages, and...... Expect no criticism!
Muslims danced in the streets and handed out sweets to their kids to celebrate the 9/11 atrocity, and......... Expect no Criticism!
Since 9/11, Muslims have killed over 26,000 and wounded over 150,000 in terrorist attacks worldwide, and............ Still Expect no Criticism!
Since 9/11 Muslims have committed terrorist attacks in Afghanistan, Algeria, Bangladesh, Belgium, Chad, Chechnya, Dagestan, Denmark, East Timor, Egypt, England, Eritrea, Ethiopia, France, Germany, India, Indonesia, Ingushetia, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Jordan, Jordan-Iraq, Kabardino-Balkans, Kenya, Kosovo, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Lebanon, Mauritania, Morocco, Netherlands, Nigeria, Pakistan, Gaza-Palestinian Authority, Philippines, Qatar, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Scotland, Somalia, Spain, Sri Lanka , Sudan , Syria , Tajikistan, Thailand , Tunisia , Turkey , United Arab Emirates, United Arab Republic , United States , Uzbekistan and Yemen, and............ STILL Expect No Criticism!
Muslims have carried out over 13,000 fatal terrorist atrocities and damages to public and private buildings/vehicles since 9/11, and countless millions since the Islamic conquest began from 623 AD; and still they Expect No Criticism!
But if the Pope dares to tell the truth about Islam's history, or a Danish Newspaper publish cartoons of Mohammed, they let the outpourings of Islamic rage, and.......... Expect no criticism!
And, by some twisted reach of logics, these arrogant vandals demand apology from the Pope, and.......... Expect no criticism!
Is this fair?
Muslims expect us to just shut up and watch, while they do what their Holy Book, the Quran, teaches and preaches… “You do as you please”, and…… still Expect No Criticism!
Here is a countdown of "top- ten facts" about Islam in our world:
10. In Afghanistan ‘You’ grow and refine heroin for a living, and, yet, you have a moral objection to beer.
09. You own a $3,000 machine gun and a $5,000 rocket launcher, but you cannot afford to wear shoes.
08. You have more wives than teeth, and, yet, you want to rape more infidels.
07. You think vests come in two styles: bullet-proof and suicide jackets, and, yet, you want us to believe it is haram to kill.
06. You cannot think of anyone you HAVEN'T declared Jihad against, yet the Quran preaches harmony.
05. You consider television dangerous, and, yet, you routinely carry ammunition in your robe.
04. You've never been asked, "Does this burka/hijab make my butt look fat?", and, yet, you make it mandatory for your women folk to wear when leaving home.
03. You are amazed to discover that cell-phones have uses other than setting off roadside bombs, and, yet, the kuffar technology is ably used for that horrendous purpose.
02. You've never uttered the phrase, "I love what you've done with your cave", but yet you destroy infidel homes and their places of worships.
And, the NUMBER ONE SIGN you might be a member of the Taliban...
01. You wipe your rear with mud-stones, and, yet, you consider all infidels are unclean Najis.
Posted by bharat25t on
Monday October 12, 2009 10:12 am
You cannot runnaway from the debate with ur standard lines..
When the you started the debate on education... You were shown the rightful place of Pakistan..... then you abandoned that and moved to ur favorite much abused SOS topic of "Indians use railway tracks, Raghuvan singh...bla bla....". When agian the rightful place of Pakistan has been revealed then u run away.
You will come back with another blog with numbers and twist it with the great school of thought in modern science of "Islamic Logic" where 424 is greater than 567 and Quran is the ultimate encyclopeadia...
Please make sure that the above cycle is not repeated again and again for the nth time..
Ppl are getting bored here..
When the you started the debate on education... You were shown the rightful place of Pakistan..... then you abandoned that and moved to ur favorite much abused SOS topic of "Indians use railway tracks, Raghuvan singh...bla bla....". When agian the rightful place of Pakistan has been revealed then u run away.
You will come back with another blog with numbers and twist it with the great school of thought in modern science of "Islamic Logic" where 424 is greater than 567 and Quran is the ultimate encyclopeadia...
Please make sure that the above cycle is not repeated again and again for the nth time..
Ppl are getting bored here..
Posted by bharat25t on
Monday October 12, 2009 10:11 am
2 and Quran is the ultimate encyclopeadia...
Please make sure that the above cycle is not repeated again and again for the nth time..
Ppl are getting bored here..
Please make sure that the above cycle is not repeated again and again for the nth time..
Ppl are getting bored here..
Posted by bharat25t on
Monday October 12, 2009 10:11 am
2 and Quran is the ultimate encyclopeadia...
Please make sure that the above cycle is not repeated again and again for the nth time..
Ppl are getting bored here..
Please make sure that the above cycle is not repeated again and again for the nth time..
Ppl are getting bored here..
Posted by RiazHaq on
Monday October 12, 2009 10:02 am
My Dear Band of Bharti Bigots,
You never disappoint me with you bigoted bombast and bravado. Hope you can recover from the shock therapy soon to be able to see reality that surrounds you.
You never disappoint me with you bigoted bombast and bravado. Hope you can recover from the shock therapy soon to be able to see reality that surrounds you.
Posted by meenug on
Monday October 12, 2009 09:06 am
#####Thanks to Riaz Haq the average iq of a Pakistani drops drastically to below 70######
Are you sure? Its a luxary for a Pakistani to have this IQ of 70.......May be you gave them benefit of doubt. LOL
Are you sure? Its a luxary for a Pakistani to have this IQ of 70.......May be you gave them benefit of doubt. LOL
Posted by meenug on
Monday October 12, 2009 09:00 am
#####The entire OIC countries produce only 500 PhDs each year as compared to 3,000 in India and 5,000 in the United Kingdom.#####
Moslem population is 20 times that of UK and they have 10 times less doc degrees.....well it is clearly understood that their Islamic teachings is at fault which comes through madersa and tells them quran sharif is the ultimate book which has every thing, infact its told that it is a miracle. Now if you brainwash younger people in madersa with these Ahle hadeeths and sunnah, what do you get ?
Prime reason Pakistani n Afghanis turning to Jehad is because the local atmosphere is charged with such virus.....Islamic ideology of religious fanaticism and a track record of terrorism (Jehad) backed by Islamic Theology of the Quran. Where do these moslems go from here....
Pakistan is a rogue terrorist state that is the breeding ground for Islamic terrrorists. Pakistan has a financial nexus with the Opium trade coming from the poppy fields of Taliban ruled Afghanistan.
What is required of Moslems is sane thinking among the (Ummah) who do subscribe to the Quranic theology of religious warfare of spreading Islam at the point of the sword and should should stop this line of thinking because this is not 7th century with mindless people, now the world has atomic weapons with deadly scenario......
Pakistan is too small a country, even with few fire crackers to browbeat Americans who threatened Pakistan in 2001 with dire consequences if they did not comply - and pakistan knows it!
Its time Pakistan left this stone age ideology and embrace Information age technology.......
Moslem population is 20 times that of UK and they have 10 times less doc degrees.....well it is clearly understood that their Islamic teachings is at fault which comes through madersa and tells them quran sharif is the ultimate book which has every thing, infact its told that it is a miracle. Now if you brainwash younger people in madersa with these Ahle hadeeths and sunnah, what do you get ?
Prime reason Pakistani n Afghanis turning to Jehad is because the local atmosphere is charged with such virus.....Islamic ideology of religious fanaticism and a track record of terrorism (Jehad) backed by Islamic Theology of the Quran. Where do these moslems go from here....
Pakistan is a rogue terrorist state that is the breeding ground for Islamic terrrorists. Pakistan has a financial nexus with the Opium trade coming from the poppy fields of Taliban ruled Afghanistan.
What is required of Moslems is sane thinking among the (Ummah) who do subscribe to the Quranic theology of religious warfare of spreading Islam at the point of the sword and should should stop this line of thinking because this is not 7th century with mindless people, now the world has atomic weapons with deadly scenario......
Pakistan is too small a country, even with few fire crackers to browbeat Americans who threatened Pakistan in 2001 with dire consequences if they did not comply - and pakistan knows it!
Its time Pakistan left this stone age ideology and embrace Information age technology.......
Posted by bharat25t on
Monday October 12, 2009 07:50 am
And Why dont you compare the clothing per kg of Alaskans with Floridans???? So the Floridans are poor????
This Ilog is a direct result of the war of words in the comments section of ur Ilog on education " http://chowk.com/ilogs/73968/48173 "
If u behave like a school kid+Islamic Extremist Kafir hater....then there should be no place for you on chowk...
You seem to be an opportunist Muslim... Meaning... take help from Kafir as long as you can and when going gets tough hide under Islam and attack Kafirs.
All your India Hate must be venting out of frustration of working under Indian Bosses at Intel...I am sure u must have had a horrid time there.....
Its like a kid with abused childhood turns out to be a Psychopaths most of the time....Ur abused time Intel at the hands of Indians made u look this.....
This Ilog is a direct result of the war of words in the comments section of ur Ilog on education " http://chowk.com/ilogs/73968/48173 "
If u behave like a school kid+Islamic Extremist Kafir hater....then there should be no place for you on chowk...
You seem to be an opportunist Muslim... Meaning... take help from Kafir as long as you can and when going gets tough hide under Islam and attack Kafirs.
All your India Hate must be venting out of frustration of working under Indian Bosses at Intel...I am sure u must have had a horrid time there.....
Its like a kid with abused childhood turns out to be a Psychopaths most of the time....Ur abused time Intel at the hands of Indians made u look this.....
Posted by bharat25t on
Monday October 12, 2009 07:32 am
Thanks to Riaz Haq the average iq of a Pakistani drops drastically to below 70
Posted by nkg on
Monday October 12, 2009 04:59 am
SPY...
Hey, why the muslas need PhDs etc?
They are doing what is needed for them....
Riaz...
What about per capita date consumption,per capita camel meat consumption, per capita madressah enrolment and per capita allahoo kabooms and based on that, some list?
That will prove how arabs are well ahead of rest of the world....
Hey, why the muslas need PhDs etc?
They are doing what is needed for them....
Riaz...
What about per capita date consumption,per capita camel meat consumption, per capita madressah enrolment and per capita allahoo kabooms and based on that, some list?
That will prove how arabs are well ahead of rest of the world....
Posted by SPY on
Monday October 12, 2009 04:46 am
Riaz: I came here hoping to read some good information on at the topic of "Beyond Food, Clothing, Shelter" only to find that you have made it a India bashing and Pakistan praising article. You do not gain in respect by presenting such one sided article. There are enough number of good things and bad things in each of the country - India and Pakistan.
A point to ponder:
The entire OIC countries produce only 500 PhDs each year as compared to 3,000 in India and 5,000 in the United Kingdom.
Reference in Dawn newspaper, Sunday, 04 Oct, 2009
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/in-paper-magazin e/encounter/oic-40-years-of-failure-409
A point to ponder:
The entire OIC countries produce only 500 PhDs each year as compared to 3,000 in India and 5,000 in the United Kingdom.
Reference in Dawn newspaper, Sunday, 04 Oct, 2009
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/in-paper-magazin e/encounter/oic-40-years-of-failure-409
Posted by nkg on
Monday October 12, 2009 03:30 am
Raiz...
great news for you...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8302055.stm
great news for you...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8302055.stm
Posted by nkg on
Monday October 12, 2009 02:08 am
Riaz Kattu...
LOL
Keep it up...
1/2 fed Madrasi (Indian)
http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/chemistry/laureates/2009/
and
well fed Paki
http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=175974
Madrasis are realy not doing good now a days..Otherwise, you will have nothing left, other then banging your head on the name of arabic moon god and shouting in arabic....
LOL
Keep it up...
1/2 fed Madrasi (Indian)
http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/chemistry/laureates/2009/
and
well fed Paki
http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=175974
Madrasis are realy not doing good now a days..Otherwise, you will have nothing left, other then banging your head on the name of arabic moon god and shouting in arabic....
Posted by meenug on
Sunday October 11, 2009 11:52 pm
RiazHaq: If you pakistanis are well fed and well sheltered then why is that a small country like pakistan has a asia´s number one slum - ORANGI?
www.telegraph.co.uk/.../Karachis-Orangi-beats-Slumdog-Millionaires-Dh aravi-in-Mumbai-as-Asias-largest-slum.html
If you pakistanis are well fed and well sheltered then why is Pakistans DEATH RATE higher than Indians ?
7.85 deaths/1,000 population (Pakistan)
6.4 deaths/1,000 population (India)
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/peo_dea_rat-people-death-rate
If you pakistanis are well fed and well sheltered then why is that 3 pakistanis share the room against the world average of 1.1 ? Pakistan tops the world table LOL! It signifies less shelter many heads....
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/peo_per_per_roo-people-persons-pe r-room
And for your information, 27% pakistanis still defecate in open feilds LOL
According to the Ministry of Environment, 73 percent of the population now has access to a latrine – 96 percent in urban areas, and 62 percent in rural areas.
According to Javed Ali Khan, director-general of the Ministry of Environment, ODF initiatives have benefited about 1.12 million people. But what about the rest???
You people are breeding like rabbits to produce more Moslems, thats why Pakistan´s total fertility rate is 3.73 children born/woman against India´s 2.76 children born/woman, you are forgetting the fact you are always on a dole, always with begging bowl, every year you run to IMF-WB with such request!
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/peo_tot_fer_rat-people-total-ferti lity-rate
See all your lies have been nailed.....next time dont dump your garbage here pls - chowk is for meaningful dialogue and not your selective lies against non muslims.....
www.telegraph.co.uk/.../Karachis-Orangi-beats-Slumdog-Millionaires-Dh aravi-in-Mumbai-as-Asias-largest-slum.html
If you pakistanis are well fed and well sheltered then why is Pakistans DEATH RATE higher than Indians ?
7.85 deaths/1,000 population (Pakistan)
6.4 deaths/1,000 population (India)
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/peo_dea_rat-people-death-rate
If you pakistanis are well fed and well sheltered then why is that 3 pakistanis share the room against the world average of 1.1 ? Pakistan tops the world table LOL! It signifies less shelter many heads....
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/peo_per_per_roo-people-persons-pe r-room
And for your information, 27% pakistanis still defecate in open feilds LOL
According to the Ministry of Environment, 73 percent of the population now has access to a latrine – 96 percent in urban areas, and 62 percent in rural areas.
According to Javed Ali Khan, director-general of the Ministry of Environment, ODF initiatives have benefited about 1.12 million people. But what about the rest???
You people are breeding like rabbits to produce more Moslems, thats why Pakistan´s total fertility rate is 3.73 children born/woman against India´s 2.76 children born/woman, you are forgetting the fact you are always on a dole, always with begging bowl, every year you run to IMF-WB with such request!
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/peo_tot_fer_rat-people-total-ferti lity-rate
See all your lies have been nailed.....next time dont dump your garbage here pls - chowk is for meaningful dialogue and not your selective lies against non muslims.....
Posted by laddu on
Sunday October 11, 2009 09:48 pm
riaz ul Haq.......please stick to your Halal stuff........let hindus take care of their own growth........ you are trying to pull us down but we know you will never succeed........
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