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Responding to comments on
my iLog One Liner Primer on Pakistan.
delirium,
About Hope, Emily Dickinson wrote:
"Hope is the thing with feathers
that perches in the soul.
And sings the tune
Without the words,
and never stops at all."
So hope is never abandoned according to this saying - yet we can often feel hopeless and want to express that.
In concrete terms, I would like to know from you and those who want to remain optimistic, on what grounds /assumptions / facts you base your optimism? From where does those rays of hope appear to you? Is there a Messiah we are waiting for or there is a practical way out of this situation? Let's share our thoughts. I personally do not see a way until the present system / arrangement completely collapses / runs out its course - only through the ashes Phoenix will rise.
mariposa, if love would be feeble, I won't consider it love at all. In particular, love of one's motherland cannot be compared with the infatuations some people call love. True love of another human being would be that strong too, but if only if it is true.
I do not doubt my love for my motherland, though I may be a brutal critic of its ills. As I quoted, "love unaccompanied by criticism is not love".
I hear you saying that after 30 years of living abroad, I may have lost my love of country. I have not heard such strong accusation before. No third person can know what goes in my mind and it is obviously presumptuous to second guess any other person.
Ironically, and it may be hard for some to understand, my gloomy negative statement is reflection of my love, only if someone can fathom the metaphor. I am not here to defend myself. With pain in my heart, when I woke up the other day, this was the line that surfaced from nowhere. That is how usually write my poetry. The lines start forming in the twilight zone of consciousness. Therefore, I do not question myself about it.
I share it because such things happen precisely for that reason: to share. If sometime such words hit some raw nerves, it must have a purpose to serve.
I cannot help it. That is the purpose of art - to invite thinking. Some time politely, sometime with brusqueness.
Zoyakhan wrote and I empathize with it:
"... we cant do anything BUT hope. We thank ALLAH when we get to our workplace. We thank him again wn we reach safely home. We thank him wn theres no blast on that day. So like POLLYANNA( Im sure u must hv read the book or watchd that movie, we are trying to see the bright side in the most desperate of situations.
and hope is all we can see at the end of this tunnel right now, cuz if we refuse to beleive in the existance of this light, we will stop groping in the darkness and resign ourselves to our fate."
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Posted by quin on
Monday October 26, 2009 04:42 am
thanks leenah; as said in my above post:
"Hope is the thing with feathers
that perches in the soul.
And sings the tune
Without the words,
and never stops at all."
And yes, expression is an expression. Cheers to HOPE,
All the best and God bless
"Hope is the thing with feathers
that perches in the soul.
And sings the tune
Without the words,
and never stops at all."
And yes, expression is an expression. Cheers to HOPE,
All the best and God bless
Posted by leenah on
Sunday October 25, 2009 09:43 pm
I am sorry I hadn't been able to read your last interact before posting mine.
I agree, the system has many flaws. No one can have any two opinions about it. But I am sure you are familiar to a policy making term "general mood" or "public mood". Well, the case in point is that the general mood, is very combative and the public opinion surveys all point at an all time high national spirit. So yeah, to optimism, and potential! :)
ps:
I do not give critique for the metaphor that you used. That just remains an expression. All I wanted to ask you was not to lose hope. Best! :)
I agree, the system has many flaws. No one can have any two opinions about it. But I am sure you are familiar to a policy making term "general mood" or "public mood". Well, the case in point is that the general mood, is very combative and the public opinion surveys all point at an all time high national spirit. So yeah, to optimism, and potential! :)
ps:
I do not give critique for the metaphor that you used. That just remains an expression. All I wanted to ask you was not to lose hope. Best! :)
Posted by bhs75 on
Sunday October 25, 2009 08:50 pm
so much to read and it's too early man !!! :)
tell you what, get your back pack, book a flight, come on down !!! break free !!!
enjoy !!!
tell you what, get your back pack, book a flight, come on down !!! break free !!!
enjoy !!!
Posted by quin on
Sunday October 25, 2009 01:28 pm
o, the antonym of activism is pacifism (not pessimism whose antonym is optimism) - both sets denote / connote different meanings / shades and there seems to be some confusion in some interactor's mind about their exact meaning.
Similar seems to be the case with criticism ...
Similar seems to be the case with criticism ...
Posted by quin on
Sunday October 25, 2009 12:50 pm
leenah, in fact it was your ilog S.O.S (http://chowk.com/ilogs/74136/48277) that had a strong impact on me that the next day (or so) when I woke up, I was in dismay and felt almost angry and I wrote that line.
I am pessimist - maybe by nature - but that does not mean I give up. But I do my stuff with an eye on the reality as it is.
There are brutal violations of our country and its people - the plundering, the looting, the rape, the murder of our homeland - not in words but in deeds. That is to what my metaphor alludes - why people get upset and become defensive and start questioning my love for my motherland.
When we start making some icons and put them on pedestal and make them beyond question, then we are committing nothing less than idolatry. And why idolatry is bad - because it clouds our judgment and reasoning.
My pessimism is only an aspect of realism. Pessimism is not antonym of activism, it is antonym of optimism. Experience and history shows (and some studies corroborate) that pessimism is closer to realism than optimism.
But as I said, I do drink to 'optimism' and to 'potential'. God bless all.
I am pessimist - maybe by nature - but that does not mean I give up. But I do my stuff with an eye on the reality as it is.
There are brutal violations of our country and its people - the plundering, the looting, the rape, the murder of our homeland - not in words but in deeds. That is to what my metaphor alludes - why people get upset and become defensive and start questioning my love for my motherland.
When we start making some icons and put them on pedestal and make them beyond question, then we are committing nothing less than idolatry. And why idolatry is bad - because it clouds our judgment and reasoning.
My pessimism is only an aspect of realism. Pessimism is not antonym of activism, it is antonym of optimism. Experience and history shows (and some studies corroborate) that pessimism is closer to realism than optimism.
But as I said, I do drink to 'optimism' and to 'potential'. God bless all.
Posted by leenah on
Sunday October 25, 2009 11:48 am
Quin,
In two of my earlier i-logs related to the unfortunate situations prevailing in the dear motherland, http://chowk.com/ilogs/71409/48277, and http://chowk.com/ilogs/74136/48277 you had very kindly expressed your insightful opinions. Based on those opinions, I think I can very safe safely assume that I have no reason whatsoever to doubt your degree of patriotism, however, your recent expressions of the dismay you feel because of your love for your country do not auger well with the existentialist approach to life that you stand for.
Just see the number of interacts this ilog carries, which basically by no means depict a debate for the sake of debate kind of attitude. It is the ACTUAL concern of people, Real passion that makes them come and rebut what they think their country doesn't deserve. And what do you think matters more? More than People, Public, Masses?
I agree that the ground realities are heart breaking, and I can but agree that the pain at times becomes too excruciating to think anything but of the pitfalls we might land in. But the fact remains that when the rain descends from the skies on to the barren bosom of the dried earth, it is the first drop that takes the plunge, that leaves the other silently huddled clouds, and ignoring all the rest, heads to do what it ought to do - fall on earth.
These interacts (and many many more on so many other forums via so many other media at so many different times) are like those drops of rain.
I know You feel the pain, Mariposa feels the pain, MBA feels the pain, Delirium feels the pain, I feel the pain, and I am sure so many others who havent interacted here, feel so too. it is actually WE who form the majority. WE are not too sure of ourselves, but that wont take too long to change, I am sure because when there are so many who feel the pain, the course is bound to change. If not now then a little while later, but change it will!
I know, as you so rightly said, evaluation of the political/social situation has nothing to do with having hope or not; it is based on 'facts'. But you see, I am in Love, and there isn't any other way I can see than HOPE.
My hope strengthens because of you, and all others who have contributed here.
In two of my earlier i-logs related to the unfortunate situations prevailing in the dear motherland, http://chowk.com/ilogs/71409/48277, and http://chowk.com/ilogs/74136/48277 you had very kindly expressed your insightful opinions. Based on those opinions, I think I can very safe safely assume that I have no reason whatsoever to doubt your degree of patriotism, however, your recent expressions of the dismay you feel because of your love for your country do not auger well with the existentialist approach to life that you stand for.
Just see the number of interacts this ilog carries, which basically by no means depict a debate for the sake of debate kind of attitude. It is the ACTUAL concern of people, Real passion that makes them come and rebut what they think their country doesn't deserve. And what do you think matters more? More than People, Public, Masses?
I agree that the ground realities are heart breaking, and I can but agree that the pain at times becomes too excruciating to think anything but of the pitfalls we might land in. But the fact remains that when the rain descends from the skies on to the barren bosom of the dried earth, it is the first drop that takes the plunge, that leaves the other silently huddled clouds, and ignoring all the rest, heads to do what it ought to do - fall on earth.
These interacts (and many many more on so many other forums via so many other media at so many different times) are like those drops of rain.
I know You feel the pain, Mariposa feels the pain, MBA feels the pain, Delirium feels the pain, I feel the pain, and I am sure so many others who havent interacted here, feel so too. it is actually WE who form the majority. WE are not too sure of ourselves, but that wont take too long to change, I am sure because when there are so many who feel the pain, the course is bound to change. If not now then a little while later, but change it will!
I know, as you so rightly said, evaluation of the political/social situation has nothing to do with having hope or not; it is based on 'facts'. But you see, I am in Love, and there isn't any other way I can see than HOPE.
My hope strengthens because of you, and all others who have contributed here.
Posted by quin on
Sunday October 25, 2009 11:31 am
Delirium,
I like your approach and the way you delineate its rationale. My despair comes from my conviction that there is fundamental flaw in the ‘system’ that we Pakistanis have tried to develop. The flaw is on theoretical as well practical grounds. Because of that, Pakistan always has been an easy prey to various internal and external vested interests. It is those interests which are driving Pakistan to its grave. It is those interests which have turned it into a zombie, a dark shadow of its potential. Pakistan can no more stand on its own feet. It is being propped up with one farce after the other by those interests. How long they will play this drama, it is anyone’s guess. The coming collapse of world’s only superpower from that status will play a big role how things will shape in our region.
As far as my hope or lack of it is concerned, it always has been in educating masses to able to think on their own. But over the years I have found how much influence is wielded by the people who have muscle - money and other resources. It is beyond all odds and so is my despair.
There are couple of assumption in your post that I would like to comment. One is ‘giving up’. Question is giving up on what? Anyway, who is giving up - not me - just I work differently.
Then you say, you cannot afford to close your eyes – If that was the case why I would be bothered to even post my thoughts.
Then you say, “Unfortunately the way we are entrapped, we don’t have a choice … Its all about survival and no escape otherwise”. Is that not description of a desperate situation, where we have to act because our survival is at stake!"
As said earlier, I summed up my evaluation in a harsh metaphoric line - that's all. It may have touched some raw nerves, but is that not the purpose of art - to invite thinking? Some time politely, sometime with brusqueness.
Finally, I do drink to the 'potential'. God bless Pakistan.
I like your approach and the way you delineate its rationale. My despair comes from my conviction that there is fundamental flaw in the ‘system’ that we Pakistanis have tried to develop. The flaw is on theoretical as well practical grounds. Because of that, Pakistan always has been an easy prey to various internal and external vested interests. It is those interests which are driving Pakistan to its grave. It is those interests which have turned it into a zombie, a dark shadow of its potential. Pakistan can no more stand on its own feet. It is being propped up with one farce after the other by those interests. How long they will play this drama, it is anyone’s guess. The coming collapse of world’s only superpower from that status will play a big role how things will shape in our region.
As far as my hope or lack of it is concerned, it always has been in educating masses to able to think on their own. But over the years I have found how much influence is wielded by the people who have muscle - money and other resources. It is beyond all odds and so is my despair.
There are couple of assumption in your post that I would like to comment. One is ‘giving up’. Question is giving up on what? Anyway, who is giving up - not me - just I work differently.
Then you say, you cannot afford to close your eyes – If that was the case why I would be bothered to even post my thoughts.
Then you say, “Unfortunately the way we are entrapped, we don’t have a choice … Its all about survival and no escape otherwise”. Is that not description of a desperate situation, where we have to act because our survival is at stake!"
As said earlier, I summed up my evaluation in a harsh metaphoric line - that's all. It may have touched some raw nerves, but is that not the purpose of art - to invite thinking? Some time politely, sometime with brusqueness.
Finally, I do drink to the 'potential'. God bless Pakistan.
Posted by Delirium on
Sunday October 25, 2009 10:11 am
Quin I don’t intend the discourse to develop as something conviction vs reason of the sort. Without launching myself ( or trying to ) into an emotional tirade, even if there were no reason, I would still like to stay optimistic for its better than being pessimistic and giving up at least.
As a citizen and an individual I have a responsibility and a role to play. I am one of the millions who count and can make a difference only insusceptible may be. Even with blood and fire around and lack of any discipline or system, would you just close your eyes and watch your motherland die ? I agree with mariposa you simply can’t do that. This is something where you can never AFFORD to give in and you have to fight come what may; that is where your heart rules and mind goes helpless. Unfortunately the way we are entrapped, we don’t have a choice and its not about making any predictions, measuring any stakes or analyzing. Its all about survival and no escape otherwise.
I agree with you and as I did point out earlier impoverished leadership is the root cause. As you have posed the question, for a change, I would be inclined to believe in the cliché that assumption is mother of all fuk ups! So without going into any assumptions I would assert that I believe that there is a practical way out. This belief emanates from a basic reality and not any assumption_ the fact that despite all the damage done and indifference, there is still enormous potential and will to turn things around at all levels. Its only a minority _ a vicious circle that is doing most of the damage. As the realization and awareness develops with a progressive change of mindset, the rudderless ship is going to determine its direction, the tide is likely to build and sweep and throw everything away. A complete collapse of system as you said. I would have agreed to it had there been one system ( I wish ).I see it happening some day….. One day…pretty soon ( Inshallah )
As a citizen and an individual I have a responsibility and a role to play. I am one of the millions who count and can make a difference only insusceptible may be. Even with blood and fire around and lack of any discipline or system, would you just close your eyes and watch your motherland die ? I agree with mariposa you simply can’t do that. This is something where you can never AFFORD to give in and you have to fight come what may; that is where your heart rules and mind goes helpless. Unfortunately the way we are entrapped, we don’t have a choice and its not about making any predictions, measuring any stakes or analyzing. Its all about survival and no escape otherwise.
I agree with you and as I did point out earlier impoverished leadership is the root cause. As you have posed the question, for a change, I would be inclined to believe in the cliché that assumption is mother of all fuk ups! So without going into any assumptions I would assert that I believe that there is a practical way out. This belief emanates from a basic reality and not any assumption_ the fact that despite all the damage done and indifference, there is still enormous potential and will to turn things around at all levels. Its only a minority _ a vicious circle that is doing most of the damage. As the realization and awareness develops with a progressive change of mindset, the rudderless ship is going to determine its direction, the tide is likely to build and sweep and throw everything away. A complete collapse of system as you said. I would have agreed to it had there been one system ( I wish ).I see it happening some day….. One day…pretty soon ( Inshallah )
Posted by quin on
Sunday October 25, 2009 09:29 am
a good opinion on that - thank you
Posted by mariposa on
Sunday October 25, 2009 09:10 am
When you criticize your country you criticize yourself, don't you?
When it comes to family, to your own home, criticism doesn't end at criticizing.
Because the harsher you criticize your ownself in retrospect of criticizing your country, the more zeal it should induce to make amends.
Unless you think you aren't a part of the equation any more.
This is also just an opinion.
When it comes to family, to your own home, criticism doesn't end at criticizing.
Because the harsher you criticize your ownself in retrospect of criticizing your country, the more zeal it should induce to make amends.
Unless you think you aren't a part of the equation any more.
This is also just an opinion.
Posted by quin on
Sunday October 25, 2009 08:58 am
MBA, why you are so hung up on HOPE ...
It seems you are afraid to face the reality. So you want to cling to anything that may give hope.
Literary criticism has nothing to do with being hopeful or not. It is an evaluation of a literary work. In political / social arena, a true 'criticism' is an evaluation of the political / social situation. Of course it will depend on the critic's view point.
I summed up my evaluation in a harsh metaphoric line - that's all.
It seems you are afraid to face the reality. So you want to cling to anything that may give hope.
Literary criticism has nothing to do with being hopeful or not. It is an evaluation of a literary work. In political / social arena, a true 'criticism' is an evaluation of the political / social situation. Of course it will depend on the critic's view point.
I summed up my evaluation in a harsh metaphoric line - that's all.
Posted by quin on
Sunday October 25, 2009 08:49 am
mariposa, I threw the challenge to the hopefuls. I see things in another light. Only time will show what is what.
Thanks for listing what you are doing and that is much commendable. I only wish you the best. There are lots of humanitarian efforts all around. These alleviate some pain, but still that will not turn the tide.
I was looking for those actions which will have some impact on the real issues.
We are not here to change anyone - we are here to change ourselves only.
Thanks for listing what you are doing and that is much commendable. I only wish you the best. There are lots of humanitarian efforts all around. These alleviate some pain, but still that will not turn the tide.
I was looking for those actions which will have some impact on the real issues.
We are not here to change anyone - we are here to change ourselves only.
Posted by MBA on
Sunday October 25, 2009 08:47 am
I see literary criticism written without hopes and highlighting anything positive is same as negative criticism.
Posted by quin on
Sunday October 25, 2009 08:37 am
MBA, now I see in the context what you mean by 'criticism'. You see it as a negative thing (typical ‘lost in translation’ situation). To see another context (a positive one) consider what is meant by ‘literary criticism’ if you may.
Regardless, yes, I can and I will criticize my mother if she makes herself ill by indiscretion. If I don’t criticize her for that it would be greatest dishonesty and hypocrisy on my part.
Regardless, yes, I can and I will criticize my mother if she makes herself ill by indiscretion. If I don’t criticize her for that it would be greatest dishonesty and hypocrisy on my part.
Posted by mariposa on
Sunday October 25, 2009 08:32 am
The easiest part of any challenge is TO CHALLANGE... Isn't it.
To wait for other people's suggestions to take initiative is losing half the battle.
I didn't only present you with analogies, I also explained my stand IN REAL TERMS. Please read that again.
Or I will lay it down for you once more.
I don't take respite in saying that my country is a corpse, digging its grave.
I gather and keep my facts straight.
I impart the same knowledge to my peers and young ones, in the hopes that may be tomorrow we might come up with something positive we can do for our country.
Additional information:
Me and my friends join hands whenever there is a need to reach out to the needy.
There are a couple of great organizations here who are doing a lot of humane work, for Pakistan, without hogging the lime light, we are members.
Quin, its not a scoring game. I criticize the ills of my country too. But as I said on AmbiBambi's ilog, my education and exposure has taught me to see beyond the epidermis of ills. Only then I can convince myself to act.
And to answer your question in a very simple term, imparting an ounce of hope is also a drop in the vast sea. And we all know the value of a drop.
I haven't taken anything personal, OR neither did I think that you were being rude. I merely objected to something that didn't sit well with MY sensibilities.
Rest you have clearly said that you are a pessimist when it comes to Pakistan. I am not so sure how can anyone change your stand as pessimism is not a habit its in one's nature.
Regards,
M.
To wait for other people's suggestions to take initiative is losing half the battle.
I didn't only present you with analogies, I also explained my stand IN REAL TERMS. Please read that again.
Or I will lay it down for you once more.
I don't take respite in saying that my country is a corpse, digging its grave.
I gather and keep my facts straight.
I impart the same knowledge to my peers and young ones, in the hopes that may be tomorrow we might come up with something positive we can do for our country.
Additional information:
Me and my friends join hands whenever there is a need to reach out to the needy.
There are a couple of great organizations here who are doing a lot of humane work, for Pakistan, without hogging the lime light, we are members.
Quin, its not a scoring game. I criticize the ills of my country too. But as I said on AmbiBambi's ilog, my education and exposure has taught me to see beyond the epidermis of ills. Only then I can convince myself to act.
And to answer your question in a very simple term, imparting an ounce of hope is also a drop in the vast sea. And we all know the value of a drop.
I haven't taken anything personal, OR neither did I think that you were being rude. I merely objected to something that didn't sit well with MY sensibilities.
Rest you have clearly said that you are a pessimist when it comes to Pakistan. I am not so sure how can anyone change your stand as pessimism is not a habit its in one's nature.
Regards,
M.
Posted by quin on
Sunday October 25, 2009 08:30 am
MBA, doubting others love for their motherland only because they criticize its ills, is the approach that does not help in finding the solutions. (Sorry to say, that is the same approach that like of Bush / McCarthy adopted.) If you are so hopeful, and if you may will so, please reflect about what can be done and respond to my challenge I have thrown in my earlier interact to mariposa.
Posted by quin on
Sunday October 25, 2009 08:30 am
mariposa, I posted my response as an ilog only because it was many days before I could come back to Chowk and respond to the original interacts. I imagined people may not go back to old ilogs and check if there was an Interact. Hope my taking liberty with this approach is not an affront.
Your detailed response is much appreciated. It helps to understand different aspects of such an emotional issue.
It is good to be an eternal hopeful as it allows you to keep going in the direction of possible solutions.
Yet, being realistic or even pessimistic has also its role. It may be more effective in finding the practicable solutions. I sometime explain this by the analogy that is created by the story of movie 'Jaws'. Some forces of nature / society can become out of control. In my opinion that is what has happened in Pakistan. We can not just hope like the hero of the movie that he can ‘tame’ that unruly beast. You have to weigh the situation at the ground and be practical.
I have asked the question, in practical / concrete / specific measures, what an individual like you and me can do. You have expressed your zeal and your hopes but have not told what is possible. In your response there are many analogies of repair and restoration, but just drawing analogies does not mean drawing an action plan.
I challenge every one here, all those like you and me, to come up with ideas of what you propose to do for Pakistan, in specific terms charting the concrete steps to take.
If I see some thing which can educate me and show me the path I will be better able to follow the suit.
PS: To reiterate: The harshness of my words about Pakistan is metaphoric expression of the excruciating pain I feel. Taking it as an insult is seeing it is an attack, which of course was not meant. We Pakistani personalize things easily and become emotional and defensive. I don’t know the root cause of that. If we cannot criticize ourselves or laugh at ourselves, we will never be able to make amends and progress.
Your detailed response is much appreciated. It helps to understand different aspects of such an emotional issue.
It is good to be an eternal hopeful as it allows you to keep going in the direction of possible solutions.
Yet, being realistic or even pessimistic has also its role. It may be more effective in finding the practicable solutions. I sometime explain this by the analogy that is created by the story of movie 'Jaws'. Some forces of nature / society can become out of control. In my opinion that is what has happened in Pakistan. We can not just hope like the hero of the movie that he can ‘tame’ that unruly beast. You have to weigh the situation at the ground and be practical.
I have asked the question, in practical / concrete / specific measures, what an individual like you and me can do. You have expressed your zeal and your hopes but have not told what is possible. In your response there are many analogies of repair and restoration, but just drawing analogies does not mean drawing an action plan.
I challenge every one here, all those like you and me, to come up with ideas of what you propose to do for Pakistan, in specific terms charting the concrete steps to take.
If I see some thing which can educate me and show me the path I will be better able to follow the suit.
PS: To reiterate: The harshness of my words about Pakistan is metaphoric expression of the excruciating pain I feel. Taking it as an insult is seeing it is an attack, which of course was not meant. We Pakistani personalize things easily and become emotional and defensive. I don’t know the root cause of that. If we cannot criticize ourselves or laugh at ourselves, we will never be able to make amends and progress.
Posted by MBA on
Sunday October 25, 2009 08:30 am
Can one criticize his/her mother for being ill?
I will try to understand your explanation.
I will try to understand your explanation.
Posted by MBA on
Sunday October 25, 2009 07:44 am
I cannot agree more with Mariposa. No matter which passport I carry, where do I work, where have I lived in the past…love for my motherland will remain the same despite of on-going problems.
Posted by mariposa on
Sunday October 25, 2009 06:20 am
Thanks for going through the trouble of posting your response as an ilog.
I am not questioning your love for your motherland. I don’t know you enough to do that. I am just objecting on the statement you are passing.
Keeping your ilog open to interacts implies that you welcome opinions even if they counter yours.
I will take the liberty to express my opinion.
You say that I have accused you of loving Pakistan less because you have been away for 30 years. NO. I just said that in response to your implication that you can’t recognize the face of your motherland.
You have chosen a quote on love that suits you, to justify the remark you passed in your ilog.
The remark you passed might be justifiable to your person, but for me it sounded harsh and very unjustified. It was also IN MY OPINION quite insulting to the people who are trying to survive in Pakistan and very discouraging to people who have the dream to go back home.
I will again stress that you don’t call your home a grave, no matter how many seasons it has seen. You crib about the leaking pipes, but you try to fix them. You complain about the termites in the basement but you get it fumigated. You look at the aging walls and even if you can’t afford to renovate them you try your best to restore them. You paint the walls yourself.
In real terms, I don’t have a solution for The Taliban problem, but I keep myself aware of the actual details and don’t let myself delude into oblivion with wrong information.
I might not have any solution to the political chaos that Pakistan is in, but I keep myself informed with the right information and not the information that streams through the TV to dumb us down.
I feel terrible for the innocent lives lost, but I dont close my eyes to it, nor do I hide it from my little niece. we and our younger ones are the ones who might come up with a change that will save our country.
I refuse to take respite in saying that my country is a corpse digging its grave.
Love and Love for your motherland are different. You cannot romanticize love for your country. You ARE a patriot OR you ARE not. and “The highest patriotism is not a blind acceptance of official policy, but a love of one's country deep enough to call her to a higher plain”
Best Regards,
M.
A Very Hopeful Pakistani.
I am not questioning your love for your motherland. I don’t know you enough to do that. I am just objecting on the statement you are passing.
Keeping your ilog open to interacts implies that you welcome opinions even if they counter yours.
I will take the liberty to express my opinion.
You say that I have accused you of loving Pakistan less because you have been away for 30 years. NO. I just said that in response to your implication that you can’t recognize the face of your motherland.
You have chosen a quote on love that suits you, to justify the remark you passed in your ilog.
The remark you passed might be justifiable to your person, but for me it sounded harsh and very unjustified. It was also IN MY OPINION quite insulting to the people who are trying to survive in Pakistan and very discouraging to people who have the dream to go back home.
I will again stress that you don’t call your home a grave, no matter how many seasons it has seen. You crib about the leaking pipes, but you try to fix them. You complain about the termites in the basement but you get it fumigated. You look at the aging walls and even if you can’t afford to renovate them you try your best to restore them. You paint the walls yourself.
In real terms, I don’t have a solution for The Taliban problem, but I keep myself aware of the actual details and don’t let myself delude into oblivion with wrong information.
I might not have any solution to the political chaos that Pakistan is in, but I keep myself informed with the right information and not the information that streams through the TV to dumb us down.
I feel terrible for the innocent lives lost, but I dont close my eyes to it, nor do I hide it from my little niece. we and our younger ones are the ones who might come up with a change that will save our country.
I refuse to take respite in saying that my country is a corpse digging its grave.
Love and Love for your motherland are different. You cannot romanticize love for your country. You ARE a patriot OR you ARE not. and “The highest patriotism is not a blind acceptance of official policy, but a love of one's country deep enough to call her to a higher plain”
Best Regards,
M.
A Very Hopeful Pakistani.
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