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On Amnesia or Dementia by Tahir

Posted: Aug 22, 2008 Fri 09:05 pm     Views: 454    Interacts: 6

Do we cling to Hope and wait for something to happened, or do we ferment into a pressure group that patrols the system and farms opinions for the next elections.

The deal is already done. Its a bridge game in which all hands are visible. Zardari holds the 58(2)b, NRO, deletion of graduation clause, a dagger in the only potential opposition in Punjab through a governor and sleeper partners like PMLQ, MQM, JUI, ANP and FATA wallas. NS as I always maintained has been effectively foxed. But Nawaz hold the biggest Ace ie the PUlSE of the people with some odd dukkies in a free for all No Trump Game.

I had a long talk with two of his stalwarts yesterday. They maintained that though they had serius doubts about Zardari, they extended a cooperative hand for the cause of Pakistani People as also to play a role from within to nuetralise what Rabia Wasti calls, 'Parental Guidance' from outside and what masadi would term as Neo Imperialism. There game plan is simple. Wait and let everything precipitate. Sitting in opposition, they will render cooperation to the Government to overcome socio-economic crises. They said, they will not have a destabilising influence.

On HP's Linear graph, I reckon we fall from 55% to 45%. In my pessimistic opinion, worse is to follow.


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Posted by masadi on Saturday August 23, 2008 12:32 pm
A president with no "apparent" connections to the military is what is desired to ferment in the minds of the people that the army does not interfere in state affairs, the situation for their direct rule has become tricky and like I said earlier the Americans now want to incorporate the establishment civilians into the power equation with the military though as subordinates. This has made the situation tricky for the military who is resisting and the civilians who are not submitting (at least not all of them). I see hope in this mess
Posted by HP on Saturday August 23, 2008 12:34 am
"Farooq Leghari did not remove BB on Army's demand."

Sorry Ijaz, If you don't know the basic reality of the Pakistani politics, then you are always going to make mistakes in your analysis. Farooq Leghari could not have done it w/o the army's approval/pressure/order.

Anyway, I am not discussing history. I thought you wanted to discuss Zadari presidency. I will write an ilog, if he confirms it.
Posted by ijaz_gul on Saturday August 23, 2008 12:20 am
Similarly in 1977, Sardar Daood of Afghanistan had initialled the agreement on Durand Line with Z A Bhutto. They were waiting for a signing ceremony when Bhutto was removed.
The irony repeated itself thrice. I have not narrated the tale of the second one yet.


Posted by ijaz_gul on Saturday August 23, 2008 12:06 am
Farooq Leghari did not remove BB on Army's demand.
It was because of very quick developments in Afghanistan that this happened.
1. OBL shifted in a C-130 from Sudan to Badakshan on the invitation of Rabbani.
2. Pakistan negotiated with the Taliban to moderate them and also to curtail activities of OBL.
3. Pakistani delegation with most of the western envoys flew to Kandhar and then Khost. It was all peaceful and the envoys also did shopping there.
4. The Taliban agreed to replace the jirga syetem with a Political Commision reresenting all athnic areas. So it was effectively a federation in being.
5. Mr. Hall a German Diplomat representing UN was called in as a coopted member, and took instructions from his headquarters.

The negotiations were complete by 3rd. On the night 4/5, BB was dismissed bt Leghari because of Zardari. What a shame? and who provided the cacus beli for this action?
Posted by HP on Friday August 22, 2008 11:45 pm
OTOH,
if does take the personal risks, he inserts himself between the army Gens and the Parliament.
If elected President,
1. he will be dealing directly with the Pak army.
2. He will be dealing with the US directly too.
3. Since the President is the supreme commander, he does get some control over the army.

The issue in Pakistan is always the tug of war between the Civilians and the army. We saw how Farooq Leghari removed Benazir on Army's demand even though he was from the PPP and that risk would remain with any other candidate.

how he would get majority votes in Punjab in elections, if he does not restore judges? In that event, I doubt that NS would support his presidency and without majority vote in Punjab his presidency would not be legit!
Posted by HP on Friday August 22, 2008 11:36 pm
Since you disappeared from UP, I will post this here.

Okay here are my initial thoughts. I reread the news and based on the presidential powers, his presence in the President house would guarantee his death. Assuming that he would resist the efforts to dissolve the civilian govts by the wardi who love to do that after very couple of years.

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