Dost Mittar December 31, 2005
#35 Posted by arjun_m on January 3, 2006 6:27:44 am
#31 by hindvi on January 3, 2006 3:04am PT
Pal here is a time line for you: In your life time you will see a solution of the problem that will raise your BP no matter what spin you put on it.
Yup..The pakis will control Indian KAshmir...Pigs will fly..etc etc..
And you expect me to reveal the location of my family?
My zip code is 22033 in Virginia, USA..Now you wouldn`t have a problem with posting the city you`re in, right...seeing as how you`ve claimed the right to comment based on your own geographical location...
There`s a greater chance of you flying a plane into my place of work than there is of me doing anything to you..
And please don’t leave your day job to become a macroeconomist or social scientist.
Of course, jihadis can keep their day jobs and do jihad in their spare time...code in the morning...boom boom at night..
Chow
Unless you`re hungy, that`s Ciao..
Pal here is a time line for you: In your life time you will see a solution of the problem that will raise your BP no matter what spin you put on it.
Yup..The pakis will control Indian KAshmir...Pigs will fly..etc etc..
And you expect me to reveal the location of my family?
My zip code is 22033 in Virginia, USA..Now you wouldn`t have a problem with posting the city you`re in, right...seeing as how you`ve claimed the right to comment based on your own geographical location...
There`s a greater chance of you flying a plane into my place of work than there is of me doing anything to you..
And please don’t leave your day job to become a macroeconomist or social scientist.
Of course, jihadis can keep their day jobs and do jihad in their spare time...code in the morning...boom boom at night..
Chow
Unless you`re hungy, that`s Ciao..
#34 Posted by dost_mittar on January 3, 2006 6:05:12 am
I thank everyone for reading my tribute to a friend. I would request Aslan (gujju?) and arjun-m to ignore any provocations and not turn this board into another acrimonious debate. Thanks, again.
Nasah saheb, I am glad to see you back and to know that you were able to visit your beloved Delhi once again, even though you must be saying all the time, ``ab vo dilli vo dilli ki galliyaan kahan!``.
Nasah saheb, I am glad to see you back and to know that you were able to visit your beloved Delhi once again, even though you must be saying all the time, ``ab vo dilli vo dilli ki galliyaan kahan!``.
#33 Posted by sadna on January 3, 2006 5:57:23 am
Does hindvi have some information, the general public and police does not, that Prof. Puri was killed by jihadis to advance their cause in J&K? Why haven`t they declared it, if so?
#32 Posted by nasah on January 3, 2006 5:50:45 am
Aslan miaN -- pleeeze no sweeping generalizations about the ``Indian Muslims`` -- with a name like Aslan you definitely seem to have an axe to grind against the ``Indian Muslims``.
``Indian Muslims`` -- ``Indian Muslims`` -- what about ``Indian Hindus``. Can U Show chowk YOUR license of Patriotism -- even a fake one.
Indian Kashmir is going nowhere except staying where it is right now -- the pre 1953 status will be the best India can do for ``Self Rule`` -- minus the army -- minus the militancy -- with a visaless LOC -- Hindvi or no Hindvi...
...shooting Puris is not going to save the Kashmiriat from self-destruction -- which is otherwise thriving in markets all over Delhi -- doing brisk business .....mostly Kashmiri Muslim owned....
..... and that will be the ``solution of the problem`` in anybody`s liftime....
``Indian Muslims`` -- ``Indian Muslims`` -- what about ``Indian Hindus``. Can U Show chowk YOUR license of Patriotism -- even a fake one.
Indian Kashmir is going nowhere except staying where it is right now -- the pre 1953 status will be the best India can do for ``Self Rule`` -- minus the army -- minus the militancy -- with a visaless LOC -- Hindvi or no Hindvi...
...shooting Puris is not going to save the Kashmiriat from self-destruction -- which is otherwise thriving in markets all over Delhi -- doing brisk business .....mostly Kashmiri Muslim owned....
..... and that will be the ``solution of the problem`` in anybody`s liftime....
#31 Posted by hindvi on January 3, 2006 3:04:00 am
Pal here is a time line for you: In your life time you will see a solution of the problem that will raise your BP no matter what spin you put on it. Sorry, if this doesn’t satisfy your punch card sensibilities.
And you expect me to reveal the location of my family? Are u related to Togadia, by any chance? You would make a great stand up.
Here is some gratuitous advice: Get a life outside of the net, India’s galactic victory doesn’t rely on your cyber skills. After a life time of posting you have done your bit, the amount of hours you are putting in just aint healthy.
And please don’t leave your day job to become a macroeconomist or social scientist.
Chow
And you expect me to reveal the location of my family? Are u related to Togadia, by any chance? You would make a great stand up.
Here is some gratuitous advice: Get a life outside of the net, India’s galactic victory doesn’t rely on your cyber skills. After a life time of posting you have done your bit, the amount of hours you are putting in just aint healthy.
And please don’t leave your day job to become a macroeconomist or social scientist.
Chow
#30 Posted by Aslan on January 3, 2006 2:21:04 am
There is obviously a great dichotomy between the beliefs and perception of Indian muslims with regard to their country and that of rest of the people of India. Reading what Hindvi writes only confirms the same. I dont see the nationalism or the sense of belonging that an average non-muslim Indian has , in Hindvi`s writing.
#29 Posted by arjun_m on January 3, 2006 2:12:18 am
#28 by hindvi on January 3, 2006 2:09am PT
So no timeline for your grand predictions? color me surprised...
why dont you check where I am logged in from?
At this time where there`s hardly anyone logged in, I could do that...
but since you`re the one who claims a right to comment on the situation because of your closeness to ground-zero, it`s incumbent upon you to tell us where you`re at...I`m in the good old US of A...your turn..
So no timeline for your grand predictions? color me surprised...
why dont you check where I am logged in from?
At this time where there`s hardly anyone logged in, I could do that...
but since you`re the one who claims a right to comment on the situation because of your closeness to ground-zero, it`s incumbent upon you to tell us where you`re at...I`m in the good old US of A...your turn..
#28 Posted by hindvi on January 3, 2006 2:09:31 am
arjun here is a reality check for u, there is a whole wide outside of your coding center, in this world the Kashmiris are more concerned about Pakistan cutting and running than they are of the conflict continuing. This shows a level of comitment that you will never be capable of.
and whiz why dont you check where I am logged in from?
and whiz why dont you check where I am logged in from?
#27 Posted by arjun_m on January 3, 2006 1:58:02 am
#26 by hindvi on January 3, 2006 1:42am PT
and u will slowly see Kasmir slipping out of your grasp too.
mmkay...any timeline for your prediction so we can hold it against you?
Anyway you have zero credibility with me, for u are safely enconsced far away from your machette wielding brothers.
I presume you are logged in from the internet from srinagar?
and u will slowly see Kasmir slipping out of your grasp too.
mmkay...any timeline for your prediction so we can hold it against you?
Anyway you have zero credibility with me, for u are safely enconsced far away from your machette wielding brothers.
I presume you are logged in from the internet from srinagar?
#26 Posted by hindvi on January 3, 2006 1:42:28 am
arjunm
I know the truth hurts, but you can go ahead and try your best. Take your softest or hardest line, push me and my family out, and u will slowly see Kasmir slipping out of your grasp too. Anyway you have zero credibility with me, for u are safely enconsced far away from your machette wielding brothers.
adios
I know the truth hurts, but you can go ahead and try your best. Take your softest or hardest line, push me and my family out, and u will slowly see Kasmir slipping out of your grasp too. Anyway you have zero credibility with me, for u are safely enconsced far away from your machette wielding brothers.
adios
#25 Posted by arjun_m on January 3, 2006 1:16:29 am
#21 by hindvi on January 2, 2006 9:36pm PT
another innocent victim of a pointless conflict. When the Pakistani and Indian advocates of a hardline on Kashmir quote Stalin:
I`m taking a soft line on your family in India: They should be sent to Pakistan...
another innocent victim of a pointless conflict. When the Pakistani and Indian advocates of a hardline on Kashmir quote Stalin:
I`m taking a soft line on your family in India: They should be sent to Pakistan...
#24 Posted by Aslan on January 3, 2006 12:10:15 am
http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20060102&fname=ajai&sid=1&pn=1
Syed Salahuddin, the head of the HM had similarly declaimed, ``Almighty Allah, by his will and tactics, is bringing the Jihad Movement of Kashmir on a track that will liberate not only the oppressed people of Jammu and Kashmir but also crores of Muslims and other minorities in India oppressed by Brahmin imperialists…`` . There is, indeed, a continuous stream of statements from jihadi leaders, over the years, in the same vein, revealing objectives and strategies that go far beyond the ‘Kashmir issue’, and that comprehend a strategy of subversion, disruption and terror across India. Crucially, this strategy and vision is integral, not only to the jihadi perspective, but underlies the state structures in Pakistan that support such terrorist groups, and, indeed, the basic ideology that underpins the Pakistani state and identity. Official pretensions of action against terrorist groups in Pakistan notwithstanding, it remains clear that all major jihadi groups currently acting in India continue to be based in and operate openly from Pakistan, and to receive support and instructions from the state apparatus in Pakistan. There is evidence, also, of increasing cooperation between the ISI and Bangladesh’s Directorate General of Forces Intelligence (DGFI) in this regard, and between Pakistani and Bangladeshi jihadi groupings.
Unsurprisingly, according to data compiled by the Institute for Conflict Management, at least 54 ISI-jehadi modules have been disrupted just over the years 2004-2005, leading to hundreds of arrests across India – outside Jammu and Kashmir and the troubled Northeast – in locations that extend from Uttaranchal in the North, to Andhra Pradesh in the South, and from Gujarat in the West to West Bengal in the East. Further, official sources indicate that, between 1998 and 2003, security agencies had neutralized more than 180 ISI-backed terrorist modules across the country (excluding J&K and the Northeast), who had been tasked to target security and vital installations, communication links, and commercial and industrial centres, as well as to provoke instability and disorder by circulating large quantities of counterfeit currency and by drug trafficking.
The attack in Bangalore was only the more visible evidence of a long-term war of attrition by Pakistani state agencies and their jehadi surrogates, intended to undermine India’s political stability, increasingly by attacking its economic, scientific and technological strengths.The objective is to gradually undermine India’s capacities for growth, as well as to weaken international confidence in the country and to create an atmosphere of pervasive terror over wide areas that would dampen the country’s capacity to attract foreign investment.
Syed Salahuddin, the head of the HM had similarly declaimed, ``Almighty Allah, by his will and tactics, is bringing the Jihad Movement of Kashmir on a track that will liberate not only the oppressed people of Jammu and Kashmir but also crores of Muslims and other minorities in India oppressed by Brahmin imperialists…`` . There is, indeed, a continuous stream of statements from jihadi leaders, over the years, in the same vein, revealing objectives and strategies that go far beyond the ‘Kashmir issue’, and that comprehend a strategy of subversion, disruption and terror across India. Crucially, this strategy and vision is integral, not only to the jihadi perspective, but underlies the state structures in Pakistan that support such terrorist groups, and, indeed, the basic ideology that underpins the Pakistani state and identity. Official pretensions of action against terrorist groups in Pakistan notwithstanding, it remains clear that all major jihadi groups currently acting in India continue to be based in and operate openly from Pakistan, and to receive support and instructions from the state apparatus in Pakistan. There is evidence, also, of increasing cooperation between the ISI and Bangladesh’s Directorate General of Forces Intelligence (DGFI) in this regard, and between Pakistani and Bangladeshi jihadi groupings.
Unsurprisingly, according to data compiled by the Institute for Conflict Management, at least 54 ISI-jehadi modules have been disrupted just over the years 2004-2005, leading to hundreds of arrests across India – outside Jammu and Kashmir and the troubled Northeast – in locations that extend from Uttaranchal in the North, to Andhra Pradesh in the South, and from Gujarat in the West to West Bengal in the East. Further, official sources indicate that, between 1998 and 2003, security agencies had neutralized more than 180 ISI-backed terrorist modules across the country (excluding J&K and the Northeast), who had been tasked to target security and vital installations, communication links, and commercial and industrial centres, as well as to provoke instability and disorder by circulating large quantities of counterfeit currency and by drug trafficking.
The attack in Bangalore was only the more visible evidence of a long-term war of attrition by Pakistani state agencies and their jehadi surrogates, intended to undermine India’s political stability, increasingly by attacking its economic, scientific and technological strengths.The objective is to gradually undermine India’s capacities for growth, as well as to weaken international confidence in the country and to create an atmosphere of pervasive terror over wide areas that would dampen the country’s capacity to attract foreign investment.
#23 Posted by Aslan on January 3, 2006 12:04:21 am
Hindvi....why are you so concerned about Indian soldiers ? You want them dead after all. You should be happy if they die in large numbers , which they are not , fortunately. More US troops have died in last 2 years in Iraq than Indian troops in last 16 years in Kashmir.
So dont you worry - India can well afford to maintain `its hardline on Kashmir`. Our bigger and real battle ultimately is against people like you ..i.e. , Indian muslims. Obviously you people have declared a war on India. Our future depends on how hard and how fast we fight back.
So dont you worry - India can well afford to maintain `its hardline on Kashmir`. Our bigger and real battle ultimately is against people like you ..i.e. , Indian muslims. Obviously you people have declared a war on India. Our future depends on how hard and how fast we fight back.
#22 Posted by ballukhan on January 2, 2006 9:57:34 pm
Typical words of `wisdom` from paki rascals who would certainly like to link attack on the IISc by the jehadis to kashmir ........................
who do they think they can pull a fast one on??
who do they think they can pull a fast one on??
#21 Posted by hindvi on January 2, 2006 9:36:13 pm
another innocent victim of a pointless conflict. When the Pakistani and Indian advocates of a hardline on Kashmir quote Stalin: An individual`s death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic - they somehow block out the individual cases (unless its of their own side). But cases such as Munish Puri bring it all back. let us not forget that for every Munish there are hundreds if not thousands of innocent Kashmiri men and women who have been killed, maimed or raped in the flower of their youth. And lets spare a momemt for those hundred of young Jawans who have been crippled or killed in their primes, in a conflict far from home, where they have landed due to an accident of fate.
#20 Posted by Ras on January 2, 2006 12:01:02 pm
Very saddened by this event.
Thanks for sharing this personal writing with us.
Ras
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