An Ode to Euthanasia

#8 by Salim_Chauhan
{I agree with the essence of your presentation that power-hungry and selfish Muslims must stop exploiting and maligning Islam as they stomp on everything Islamic to attain their unIslamic goals. }

hmmm..this is whitewashing..many religions were used by states, and religions and conquering flourished hand-in-hand (feroze has written a lot on this in his war dispatches). so there is a large history of evidence of gain from religions (and certainly FOR religions by gaining them adherents ). in short, it has been a symbiotic relationship. so, its unfair to claim purity of intent for the religion while damning the religious.

#22, Manto
The Turks of the 1920s were more against Arab influence than they were against Islam. Because of the infidelity of the Arabs, the Turks lost WWI by being stabbed in the back - in the south, where they were not expecting an attack. They had taken care of the British in Gallipoli and the Russians in Armenia.
The anti-Arabic bandwagon just took on an anti-Islamic tone with the ban of calls to prayer, religious laws, etc. More than anything, Ataturk wanted to modernize the Turks. His mother was herself a very devout Muslim. Turks are strange when it comes to Islam - alcohol and sexual activity have always been part of Turkish culture - pre-revolution and post-revolution.

Re: # 23

Madani,

Unless Akhtar is doing both of your daughters, there`s no need to sing unnecessary praises of him. He took only two wickets compared to Asif and Razzaq.

Bowling O M R W ER Nb Wb
S Akhtar 16 3 70 2 4.38 4 0
M Asif 19.1 1 78 4 4.07 6 0
A Razzaq 16 3 67 3 4.19 7 0
S Afridi 3 0 12 1 4.00 0 0

Re: # no reference
As predicted India defeated by 7 runs by home team. Indian management total failure. Test is won almost as shoeb Akhtar reaching 157KM/HR. Major indian batsman can not face Express just throw and run away. Sad only indian bowlers have to bad.

Feroz..

An excellent article as usual.


Salim Chauhan,

Being a Turko-phile like myself you must have read the history of the Turkish Revolution.
The rallying cry, under Mustapha Kemal Ataturk, there was Islam and Jehad more than anywhere else and look what they did after that.

Re: # 20
No reference:
It looks pindi express will indian team out of misery . Indian team has no chance again management failure of Indian captain.

on the inside joke:
i came across this guy who was comparing characters in Heinrich Heine`s poem Marie Antoinette with muslims. In the poem, ghosts of Marie Antoinette the famous french queen entertains her guests in the strictest ettiquettes or so it seemed to the ``Guests``. The irony was that all the guests and the Queen were headless (as the scene was transpiring after the French Revolution) and since they were headless they didnt have their brains intact to realise that they were headless... ! eek!

Muslims are pretty much in the same headless state with the ghost of Muhammad haunting them.

ferozek:
i think pakistani state is emulating the Medinah State, the ideal state founded by the Prophet, in one very imporant area.

And that is the lack of any sort of succession principle in force in Pakistan just like Mohammad left it open ended for his followers to duke it out among them once he was dead - well here we are - in 1400 Hijrah-century and Pakistani state is strictly following the Sunnah of the Prophet with extreme reverence.

Too shallow an article to warrant any serious response.

Re: # 7

The title is an inside joke; if the Muslims do not reform they will be responsible for their own end. :)

Ciao

Re: # 8 and # 5

Thanks.

Ciao

Re: # 1

Agreed.

Ciao

#9 by Urstruly on January 28, 2006 8:22pm PT


The days of military fascists, atheists thugs, and corrupt puppets of the west are numbered now.


Hey..2 million is a number too..

#9 writes <<< The days of military fascists, atheists thugs, and corrupt puppets of the west are numbered now. >>>>

Yes, the days of those who have used and abused Islam and its image for their evil ends, whether it be the so called Afghan Jihad or now the ``war on terrorism`` are numbered. They are losing on all fronts.

wo din key jis ka waada hey
hum dekhain gey

Inshallah.

Re: # 9

Brother Urstruly,

Indeed Hamas` victory cannot be denied even with the majority Palestinian atheists amongst the voting population. In the face of rampant corruption etc, even a party of donkeys would have been victorious, no? So really its not Hamas` islamness (some moderates will say they have none) that has been validated, but just their non-Fatah-ness is. Brother, you may have been influenced by the western media when they call Hamas, an extremist ISLAMIST party.. when you know in your heart that it is just an extremist palestinian party responding to Israeli aggression and Fatah corruption..

Brother if you want to seek the truth, you have to admit that the islam-ness of a politcal party should be measured by its competition and what they are offering. Like Maududi, coming out with that fatwa against Fatimah Jinnah.. You probably know countless other examples. Hamas, PLO, Fata etc.. none of them are secular or islamist.

The example of Muslim organization helping out, the writer of this article might say that this is what the place of Muslim organizations (just like the church) should be, where they invoke the fear of the supernatural in order to collect charity for the earthquake victims. Just don`t enter politics with half-assed ideas about banking, rights of women/dhimmis/sects/gays/arts/inheritance/slavery and corporal punishment when we can have a constitution based on modern sensibilty and science, the writer would say.

The battle cry in the last line is so cute brother, that kaka would like to take a puppee of you, if that`s alright with the editor here.

Re: # 8

`If Muslims prefer the gains of political power and they wish to use and malign Islam for this purpose, then out of a common decency, they should stop pretending to act in the name of Islam`

The problem with this hapless circularity is that, anyone wanting to MALIGN Islam will HAVE TO act in the name of Islam, common decency notwithstanding. In other words, it is not possible to make an egg omelette without invoking some eggs first.