Is the Koran Truly Amazing?

Oh boy..comrade asadi has written a piece on the koran..i can just visualize the interacts on this thread..people are going to be pissing all over the koran and comrade massadi`s head is going to explode..

Saavan kay undhay ko sabz he sabz soujhay...

[the (guy who was) blinded during the monsoons (can) imagine only the lush green...]

Bizarre, truly bizarre. This is even more startling than my most paranoid suspicions.

This clown, who spends his time recommending socialism to indians, and is also a big bhakta of stalin and mao, now turns out to be a religous fanatic!

Wow ! What can I say? There is nothing I can say that could ever compare with the contents of the article. I guess I could list the parts that were the funniest -- probably the following lines standout -

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The thoughts are laid out one by one; they overlap bearing no temporal limitations, due to the unique nature of the book, contrary to books produced by human minds.
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Nuff said. The path from here to blowing up children, beheading journalists and wrapping women up in large black sacks is clear.

It is a waste of time but I will provide my comment.

What is amazing is this article. Lot of hot air without any substance.

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The thoughts are laid out one by one; they overlap bearing no temporal limitations, due to the unique nature of the book, contrary to books produced by human minds.
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Prove it!!

Koran is simple because it is intended for simpletons from arabia. It is not a universally applicable message from god. I will prove what I am saying if you prove that Koran is indeed a divine mandate.

Just because Mohammed said that the koran is the word of god and it says so in the koran..it doesn;t mean it is. That is circular logic. Don`t confuse faith with logic..it`s ok to believe that Koran is the word of god..but stop trying to suggest that it is some amazing and singularly divine writing. It is just as divine as the Holy book of the Animists in the congo..without the 4 chicks for 1 guy part. They get 9.

I usually just read the last few Surahs of the Koran, mainly for personal comfort and peace of mind. I like the meanings especially the Surah about time Al Asr i think its called. There are a couple of questions i have, things that stand out in my mind. Why does the Koran keep on reminding us about being fearful of your Lord? Is it telling us about being fearful of the reaction of our bad deeds and its affect on our Karma? Or are we all going to burn in hell for some obscure sin?

It seems the mullas remind us only of all the punishment of this and that, and strike fear into our hearts, but the fact remains, why should you fear your Lord? It is the consequences of your wrongdoing that you should fear, not the one who is full of infinite love and wisdom. I cant understand the Arabic or the times in which the Koran was written, so i take from it what i can, i don`t agree with the Saudi like style of its interpretation but mainly what the words say to me when i read them.

I have stopped worrying about hell or being guilty, as that in itself is such a negative and destructive energy. I feel our scholars are very unenlightened and can learn a thing or two from our old peer bazorg and from Buddha.

Heh heh heh....

masadi is another closet mullah? who would have thunk.....

``..............Of course, I also add today, that the Bible is not the same thing as the Koran, neither do the two have the same author..................``

Both books have plaigarized and copied extensively from Judaism; of course, twisting and moulding to self interests and whims........

M Asadi,

Did you think this Chowk is the Chowk where mandaris,charltans and other tricksters come to do tamashas, and sell thier potions?

Wrong Chowk....fella, the tamashbeens here are not as naive as you think you are clever.....take your act somewhere else.

Hadn`t Mr. masadi made his position sufficiently clear on the `Muhammad Who` thread? Why the need to post an article which apparently offers little argument other than a deep personal affinity with Koran? Which is fine ... most Muslims do have the same kind of deep personal affinity, but many also have a questioning mind at the same time which tends to hold little sacred i.e. excluding me .. :-) I hasten to say ... to preemptively ward off the author`s propensity for vitriolic barrages.

However, I do have an honest question. Is the author`s position that of a `Koran Alone Literatist`? (i.e. going by his insistence on everything else being compiled 200 years removed from the actual events). If the answer is yes, how does the author reconcile sura-e-ikhlas (which, by the way I truly find the very best conceptual description by far of an omnipotent entity in any religion and representative of the uniqueness to be ascribed to Allah) with the idea of God actually sitting on a grand throne in the heavens? I mean ... c`mon ... I`m truly lost on this one.

Regards

``a theory that offered falsification`` .
Care to give an example of a falsifiable statement in the Quran?

Quran doesn`t enjoy universal appeal as the Hindu or other scriptures do.....how many quote quran???? one of the more famous examples is before the Atom bomb explosion, the scientist quoted Gita....he didn`t yell la ee la la eela

its appeal and ``scientific brilliance`` is limited to its followers.....is this a lame attempt to mimic the Christian scientific movements in the US these days?

Koran is a great book. For many individuals, it is the object of their greatest reverence. As are, and can be, other great books of the world for anyone who chooses to read the latter with equal devotion.

The safest and best option is to keep things at that level. That compromise would leave everyone happy. Nobody`s rational sensitivities or religious sentiments would be offended.

An Introduction to the Unifying Theory of Everything

What is the Unifying Theory of Everything? Islam?

Islam is the Unifying Theory of Everything? That is a very grand claim to make. It appears to me that any person or belief system that makes such grand claims for itself should be subject to the strictest criticism and close reading to test its claims.

Unfortunately, Muslims tend to get violent and psychopathic when Islam is questioned and refuted, mocked and satirised. I think this is because of the grand pompous claims made for it in the first place, that it contains the whole entire truth of `everything`. But the touchy and violent responses to criticism suggest to me that there is a deep deep inferiority complex and doubt underneath all the bluster - that in fact Islam and the Koran do not provide a Unifying Theory of Everything, but is in fact just another religion from amongst many, and the Koran is just another book, in short, that Islam and the Koran are nothing special.

It seems to me almost comical - the level of hubris, deception, and wilful narccissism and delusion.

Masadi...

Are you at some level influenced by the writings of Dr Ali Shariati?

I am wondering because of your peculier mix of Islam and Marxism..