The Modernity Conspiracy

masadi: Maulana Hamidm has provided you with Qurnaic verses that you would do well to heed and end your mischievous ways.

For verily, the Lord is not fooled by hot-air balloons like thee, O depraved one.!!

The Lord, thy God, shall smite thee with bamboo cane and cast thee unto the seventh circle of Hell, wherein to dwell in misery for all eternity with scum like mullah maudoodi, general zia and other frauds like thou!! Repent thy evil ways before Allah takes note of thy mischief, O hot air balloon!!!

Re:masadi#49

[...So, if I want to escape the effects of such a system, I`d live inside to miniize the effects...]

What utter bakwaas!! This is total hypocrisy. Actions speak louder than words. The fact that you DO NOT practice what you preach, shows that you are an intellectually and morally dishonest hypocrite.

You live in the US, breed here, enjoy the good life, make money and then give sermons about how bad the US is. Shame on you for this level of moral bankruptcy!!

masadi doctorine is no different than Bush doctorine.

Bush Doctorine also says something similar ``We will fight them in their home rather than let them come here fight with us.`` :)

both are pre-emptive doctorines.:)

Re: # 49
Masadi. I understand that I am wrong in concluding Islam has failed everywhere. Could you please inform me where it has succeeded ?
Also, why you are not living there ? Also, how many non-Muslims immigrate (or apply for)
to this beautiful succeful model of Islam ?

I may not be knowing Islam or even my own Vedic dharma very well.... but I know evil when I
see it.

- wis0

PS: I am curious as to what I have done, that you have still not added me to your select band of damn fools.

Re: # 50
I noticed that too. And it was deja vu ....

regards,
wiz0

...... this is what al-lah has to say about maulana masadi and comrade saima :

[9.67] The hypocritical men and the hypocritical women are all alike; they enjoin evil and forbid good and withhold their hands; they have forsaken Allah, so He has forsaken them; surely the hypocrites are the transgressors.

....... finally i found something meaningful in the good book ! ........ next, i am looking for the cure for cancer and how to stop those rabbits from munching on my burning bushes (no, it has nothing to do with moses)

masadi`s law :

``if I want to escape the effects of such a system, I`d live inside to miniize the effects``

.......... now i have heard it all ! .......... good night .........

#48 writes <<< Islam is a failed cult, which has been unsuccessful everywhere.
Proof is that you are living in the United States of America. Voluntarily.
And may have even breeded here too. Assuming you got family here, why do that if you don`t want to inflict this system on your progeny ? >>>

Instead of dealing with the facts and proving why the US is not a failed system, he responds with nonsense and ad hominems. He knows nothing about Islam and its system, nor does he know the ``everywhere`` where Islam was implemented and failed yet he claims that it is a ``failed cult``. And I can bet he knows not the sociological meaning of ``cult`` either.

Then he equates living in the US being somehow different to living in a world dominated by the US. The policies of the US elite, their effects are felt greater abroad than at home, the misery felt as a result of these policies are magnified abroad much more than they are inside the country. So, if I want to escape the effects of such a system, I`d live inside to miniize the effects, but I wont. I have lived most of my life outside of the US and will soon be living outside of the US as well, God willing. But what I do is not the concern here, how the system is failing the millions who live in it and impoverishing the billions who live abroad, that is the question and my living or not living here has no logical connection to these issues.

So now you all see that this ``wiseguyin`` is not wise at all, like all the other US elite cheerleaders when faced with facts, they resort to illogical BS, and it is not too hard for me to dismantle this nonsense.

Re: # 45
> Research reveals that there are 37 million in the US that don`t get enough to eat
so ?
is it because of the system ? Which other system is better ? Islam ? Islam is a failed cult, which has been unsuccessful everywhere.
Proof is that you are living in the United States of America. Voluntarily.
And may have even breeded here too. Assuming you got family here, why do that if you don`t want to inflict this system on your progeny ?

> Follow thru with his post and by ``mullah`` he means those that oppose this form of US hegemony...
sometimes sarcasm is used. sometimes plain rebuttals are used.
but mullahs are those on whom nothing works. and like an unwanted pest, they just stick around.

That is the definition of a mullah.

Yeah .... yeah .... no need to thank me. This definition is released under GPL so you can
use it without threat of deportation.

- wiz0

#42 by tahmed32 <<< poor sir syed (assuming he checks out chowk once in a while) must be banging his head against a wall in heaven, while the mullahs in hell who opposed his efforts to get muslims to see the light must be dancing with delight. >>>

Here tahmed, in his ``slave of the US elite`` mentality equates ``seeing the light``, not with the enlightenment tradition or the reasoning and rational thinking recommended by the Quran but rather, he means by this ``light`` (read the context in which he is making these comments) following the ways and policies of the US elite and their brand of monopoly capitalism, and advertised ``freedom`` (which doesn`t exist in reality ofcourse). Follow thru with his post and by ``mullah`` he means those that oppose this form of US hegemony. A form of labelling and sloganeering that has been mastered by those who can`t think or argue worth a rat`s fart. They equate their ideas with happy imagery, that of a farmer struggling against British domination (regardless of whether it describes the situation today or not etc) while they equate their opponents ideas with that of images that are considered derogatory, that of communism or ``mullah`` etc. to discredit them. Such is the deceptive calibre of their illogical thinking. They never deal directly with the arguments, go through tahmeds posts and discussions with me, he will NEVER ever refute even one point of what I put forward, all he does it use this deception and distraction. I pity these damn fools, and I will oppose them whereever I can and whenever I can, whether they like it or not.

#41 by stuka <<< Islamists like masadi: America is doomed, regardless of the facts, because America is doing something the Islamists aren`t happy about >>>

First I`m not an Islamist, whatever the hell you mean by that, just a simple Muslim. Next you say,``...regardless of fact``, I have presented more facts, theoretical and statistical than most posters on here, so you lie plain and simple when you say ``regardless of fact``. The only thing regardless of fact are your posts where you use made up fiction and attribute them to other posters.

#44 writes <<< It is the height of hypocrisy that Masadi and Saima Shah will never, ever leave US and go back to Pakistan. However, they will hate the country where they live and rant and rave against it every day of their lives. It truly defies all logic.

Masadi, if you read this, can you tell us why you chose to live in the US? >>>

You are the third or fourth person who is asking this question, which has already been answered but you choose to reveal symptoms of amnesia. Tell me why is it that when you all cannot logically answer arguments you reduce them to Ad Hominem claims of hypocrisy or bad morality or whatever? That is no argument. Why should I answer this question the fifth time over? Tell me? If you have a good enough reason that has already not been repeated by hypocrites like tahmed, who borrows heavily from my rendition of the Quran by the way, but on top of that brands me a mullah, or hamidm2, let me know and I will answer this question again.

In the meantime, let me logically dismantle this line of reasoning like I did when hamidm2 presented it before:

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#98 Muslims and Modern Banking: A Rejoinder on February 28, 2006

Masadi= Research reveals that there are 37 million in the US that don`t get enough to eat

Damn fool hamidm2 = They are eating cheetos and drinking pop

Masadi= Research shows that they are dying at three times the rate

Damn fool hamidm2= They can walk to an emergency room and not die

Masadi= This system has failed when millions are homeless amidst extreme wealth

Damn fool hamidm2= Why are you living in a failed system

Masadi= What does my living or leaving have to do with the fact that millions are suffereing in this system of hypocrisy?

Damn fool hamidm2= Why are you living in a failed system

Masadi= will you accept that it is a failed system if I were to get up and leave?

Damn fool hamidm2= yes

Masadi= Well if you accept its a failed system what are you doing here? Let`s both get up and leave

Damn fool hamidm2= No, I wont accept its a failed system even if you leave.

Masadi= then you acknowledge that my leaving or not leaving has nothing to do with it being a failed system. Your argument is in tatters.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Re:arjunm#34

It is the height of hypocrisy that Masadi and Saima Shah will never, ever leave US and go back to Pakistan. However, they will hate the country where they live and rant and rave against it every day of their lives. It truly defies all logic.

Masadi, if you read this, can you tell us why you chose to live in the US? Once and for all, please explain your mindset. From your writing, you seem to be in extreme distress for living in US. Who or what is forcing you? Is it the money? If so, then just admit it that you are as much in love with dollars and US economy as anyone else. Dont try to act as if you are more noble than others, when you are just here for money.

#42 is to the writer of this article, ms. shah, btw.

poor sir syed (assuming he checks out chowk once in a while) must be banging his head against a wall in heaven, while the mullahs in hell who opposed his efforts to get muslims to see the light must be dancing with delight.

i am being summoned for dinner, otherwise i would have given you a piece of my mind. but i will be back. i promise.

``People in your club can be broadly divided into the following categories:

Islamists like masadi: America is doomed, regardless of the facts, because America is doing something the Islamists aren`t happy about.
Leftists like Saima Shah: America was pre-destined to be doomed because capitalism never works.
White-trash buchanan brigade types: America is doomed because of the damn foreigners and ``we`re exporting all our jobs``


you can call it the America Is Doomed Society(AIDS for short)..AIDS has no cure..``

HAR HAR HAR!! The best part is that the club members will largely be immigrants from other countries who came here on a voluntary basis.