Australia’s Muslim youth -- A Battle for their Hearts and Minds

Lillie,

You meant ``7th Century behavior`` I presume?

The reason for this behavior is that Islam does not have inbuilt mechanisms for self-reform or keeping up with the times. Even the much vilified Catholic church periodically apologizes for the past misdeeds of its popes or members. That is an example of civilized attitude that muslims can emulate.

The Muslim Manifesto is a significant first step in the right direction. This needs to be ratified into an act by the UN and made binding on all Islamic republics and countries with any muslim population. This is a far more deadly and immediate danger to civilized human societies than possibly are AIDS or global warming.

You are right on the dot about Islam being an Arab enterprise. That`s what happens when a huge lot of money comes to fanatics without any effort. These arabs sit in their tents counting moolah from the holes in the ground leased to western oil companies. No hardwork has gone into this earning, and hence there is no responsible behavior in spending it.

Hence they start terror factories, outsource terrorism to countries like Pakistan, train pilots to ram into buildings, fund the families of suicide bombers and build retrogressive societies.

Free societies of the east and west should join hands to ruthlessly exterminate the pests of radical Islam before they turn our societies into theirs.

Lillie,

You meant ``7th Century behavior`` I presume?

The reason for this behavior is that Islam does not have inbuilt mechanisms for self-reform or keeping up with the times. Even the much vilified Catholic church periodically apologizes for the past misdeeds of its popes or members. That is an example of civilized attitude that muslims can emulate.

The Muslim Manifesto is a significant first step in the right direction. This needs to be ratified into an act by the UN and made binding on all Islamic republics and countries with any muslim population. This is a far more deadly and immediate danger to civilized human societies than possibly are AIDS or global warming.

You are right on the dot about Islam being an Arab enterprise. That`s what happens when a huge lot of money comes to fanatics without any effort. These arabs sit in their tents counting moolah from the holes in the ground leased to western oil companies. No hardwork has gone into this earning, and hence there is no responsible behavior in spending it.

Hence they start terror factories, outsource terrorism to countries like Pakistan, train pilots to ram into buildings, fund the families of suicide bombers and build retrogressive societies.

Free societies of the east and west should join hands to ruthlessly exterminate the pests of radical Islam before they turn our societies into theirs.

khalid_ahmad,

Thanks for pointing out some excellent examples of the ``12th Century behaviour`` that so many Muslim Immigrants have been conducting the world over. We shouldn’t forget that this behaviours is not new; rather it has been happening for a very long time. Interestingly though, is the fact that Muslims have been major targets as well, which has caused divisions among Muslim sects as well as the search for a better more peaceful path.

In point of fact, Muslims are voluntarily escaping from Islam in record numbers (voluntarily as opposed to being murdered as ``apostates`` ). Currently, Islam`s growth rate is dependent upon higher birth rates amongst the poorer Muslims (along with jail-house conversions) . Paradoxically, it`s within this same group that a very high rate of conversions to Christianity are occurring. Why? Most simply, Islam, finally, is a fully Arabian owned and operated venture. Many Muslims who are not of Arabian origin (and therefore subjected to virtual dhimmitude themselves) have been waking up to this fact -- and interesting -- waking right alongside Westerners and for similar reasons - all have been shocked by the escalating violence of imperial Arabia .. however and importantly, non-Arabic and therefore second class Muslims have themselves been immediate victims of the state religion of Imperialist Arabia .. and are now rapidly moving into the kinder and gentler religion: Christianity.

Looks like the ``reformation of Islam`` is coming from unexpected but apparently functional quarters - Christianity. Imperial Arabian Islam has become the equivalent of the Pox riddled whore attempting to scream her clients back into her bed.

-Lillie

TERRORIST US PAKI TESTIFIES AGAINST TERRORIST UK PAKIS

LONDON, March 23: Mohammed Babar, 31, has been brought to the Central Criminal Court to testify against the men, who are accused of having discussed bombing revellers at a large central London nightclub as well as targeting public utilities.

The Pakistan-born US citizen has pleaded guilty in the United States to being part of ‘the British plot’ and given immunity from prosecution in Britain, the court has been told.

Babar, who is said to have met the men at training camps in Pakistan, began testimony amid tight security in and around the court, and on his transfer from a secret location.

He told the prosecutor he had decided to fight against the US despite his mother escaping from the World Trade Centre in New York, when they were hit by two hijacked planes on Sept 11, 2001.

He said he become increasingly politicised after the first Gulf War in 1991 and although he wanted to fight on behalf of Muslims in Chechnya and Palestine, he had not been able to make right contacts.

The 2001 war against Afghanistan’s ruling Islamist Taliban, who supported Al Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden, was his last chance of engaging in ‘jihad’, even though it meant fighting US forces, he said.

While across the border in Pakistan, he said he met a number of Britons, mainly from London and the Crawley area of southeast England.

“Those brothers came basically from England and were in Pakistan at the time after 9/11. Fifteen or 20 of us came to Pakistan for the jihad,” he said.

The accused are: Omar Khyam, 24, Waheed Mahmood, 34, Shuja Mahmood, 19, and Jawad Akbar, 22, all from Crawley, south of London; Anthony Garcia (also known as Rahman Adam), 23, of Ilford, east London; Nabeel Hussain, 20, of Horley, Surrey; and Salahuddin Amin, 31, from Luton, north of London

WHY WOULDN`T AN AUSTRALIAN NIGHTCLUB BE NEXT?

Throw out pakis, make the country a safer palce

Look up Aslam Dilpazier. He wrote regularly in the Guardian spewing his pro-Paki pro-Islamic we-are-victims racial venom in Britain. But fortunately, the british people wised up and the dude got kicked out in due course.

It is time for Australians to do the honors for the likes of Saeed Khan, who use newspaper articles for thinly veiled justifications and excuses for their primitive medieval practices.

Today`s news from London. Before it happens in Oz throw these green chameleons back into the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

LESSON: PAKIS REFUSE TO ASSIMILATE INTO ANY CULTURE AND WILL SEEK A RACIAL DIVIDE WHEREVER THEY GO

LONDON, March 22: A British girl of Pakistani origin lost a legal battle on Wednesday to be allowed to wear full Islamic dress in school in a case which has been likened to the row in France over the wearing of Muslim headscarves. Shabina Begum, now 17, was sent home from school in September 2002 and ordered to change her clothes after she turned up wearing a jilbab, a long gown which covers the whole body except for the hands and face.

The Lords said Begum’s family knew what the school’s uniform policy was when they sent her there and should have enrolled her at a different school if they objected to it.

EXCELLENT NEWS: Denbigh High said it was pleased with the verdict while Luton Council, which had backed the school, described it as “excellent news”.

“We are pleased that Denbigh High has finally been vindicated,” the council said in a statement. “The school has always adopted an inclusive uniform policy that satisfies the religious needs and cultural backgrounds of its pupils.”

Muslim groups were dismayed by the ruling.

“On a matter of principle we are disappointed,” said Tahir Alam, education spokesman for the Muslim Council of Britain, the country’s largest Muslim lobby group.

Appeal judge Lord Justice Brooke said children at Denbigh school spoke 40 different languages and were from 21 different ethnic groups yet only the Pakis found a problem assimilating.

[How about a little support for those Muslims that have successfully integrated into the West, for they are the only hope that young Muslims have towards reaching a peaceful future]

This has been proven wrong many times over in many societies.

Take Britain for instance - it has provided an exceptionally liberal society with all opportunities for progress. Yet everyday there is a new instance of a British born Paki origin muslim immigrant caught trying to blow up this society. See, these worthless ingrates have been given more chances than any other immigrant culture but there is no hope. Ask why only Paki origin muslims are doing this? Why not Sri Lankan muslims, Malaysian muslims, Indian muslims or the Bangladeshi muslims? Because only Pakis believe in ``two nation theory - separate nation for Islam in whichever country they live`` and refuse to assimilate, ending up biting the merciful hands that feed.

This author - Saeed Khan - is merely looking for excuses to deflect critical examination of his culture. He writes this in the aftermath of the rape and the trial. If he really intended progress, he would have done it long before. Everything he writes about his culture has always existed, but his whining comes only after the mainstream has started to take notice.

Dont forget, this guy is a Paki and a politician, and he will do what Paki politicians do best. Lick the ass of the west with their self-whines while the other half of their brain is plotting of wrecking the very society in which they live.

By the way Saeed Khan writes in several other Islamic and Paki fora and an attempt is being made to collect those writings, which are in total hypocritical contrast to the contents published for the Sydney newspaper.

Chameleons are usually green, and the human variants pose grave danger to modern societies. Returning them to their green flagged ummah lands is the only win-win solution for both the civilized humans and the lizards among them.

It is a very positive thing to come up with solutions (Mr. Khan), yet criticism without an action statement is futile (khalid_ahmad). How about a little support for those Muslims that have successfully integrated into the West, for they are the only hope that young Muslims have towards reaching a peaceful future.

It is also important for Immigrant Muslims to consider how Christians, Hindus, Buddhists and Jews are treated in ``Muslim Lands``. Muslims Immigrants cannot legitimately demand Human-Rights, shelter and support from the West unless they are also for the protection of diversity in their homelands. The situation is already precariously volatile for Muslims in the West with the limits of Christian tolerance being reached rapidly, so we need to see positive moves by Immigrant Muslims - and the surest way for this to occur is for educated and well integrated Muslims to become the leaders, rather than the old men/Imams/Mullahs (with ancient ideas of control and non-tolerance).
Perhaps if Muslim Immigrants said some good things about the Western countries that have shown such generosity, openness, tolerance, freedom to worship Allah and protection from the dangers of embattled and poverty stricken countries...oh, I almost forgot, EDUCATION. Don’t you appreciate it when someone thanks you when you do a good deed or a favour to someone?

But let`s stop playing ring-around-the-rosy, are there any Muslims that can see that it will help Islam to protect the Christian convert, Muslim-born Abdul Rahman from the Afghanistan Courts which are close to putting him to death? Can any of you fathom the consequences of a State sanctioned killing of someone who has accepted Jesus as his Saviour? Here is a window peak into the Christian mindset. Christians are against war and are tolerant of other religions, including Islam. To unjustly kill Mr. Abdul Rahman will cancel the remaining support that Muslims have enjoyed, and it would be tragic because Western nations would turn to hard, cold, steel. The confusion and disagreement within Western countries is already crystallising into agreement, and Mr. Abdul Rahman may just be the straw that broke the camel`s back - although he might seem small and insignificant to someone in Afghanistan, depending on how he is dealt with the consequences could vary greatly. Free him with a public pardon or face the wrath of the entirety of Christendom, which means that Christians will all of a sudden support their Governments and militaries towards a solution, and Muslim immigrant will no longer be able to claim human rights protection if Christians (and other religions) are not given such considerations in “Muslim Lands”.

Even little steps in the right direction can help give all of our children a better world in which to live. Why not make a few steps in the direction of tolerance, responsibility and love for the beauty in human kind...after all ``God``/``Allah`` made all of us if you believe that He exists. Only those that don`t want peace for ALL of us and our Families can possibly promote the intentional killing of peaceful people like Mr. Abdul Rahman. Pakistan, which has great Leaders in its midst, is perfectly situated to encourage a Pardon for Mr. Abdul Rahman who has confessed that he became a Christian some years ago while living in Germany. http://www.afghantimes.com


-Lillie Whiteblossom

Yoo hoo...anyone home ... yoo hoo... OzChickPaki... councillor counsellor... where are you? Spending too much time with the other schizophrenic half?

Where is bin Laden?

See here

#various by khalid_ahmad

Yaar Khalid, obviously you haven`t understood the Paki psychology, have you? When you write posts denigrating Pakistan/Pakis, you`re either a hateful Hindu (never mind the fact that one American official went so far as to say that Pakis would sell their mothers for a few dollars..I`m sure Pakis think he`s a Hindu too) or mentally deranged. Ask OzChick if you don`t believe me, s/he is a psychologist (or at least claims so).

Austria or Australia, the pakistani immigrants are citizens of questionable loyalty. The sooner the western countries, the safer the countries would be. Austria is another country of high Paki immigration. Read this:

At a monthly parade, ``when the Austrian flag was raised, the Muslims turned away and demonstratively turned their backs on the flag``, an army trainer was quoted as saying. To the surprise of the officers, the Muslims said the flag was incompatible with their religion. Trainers at Vienna Maria Theresia Barracks complained that Muslim soldiers were often absent from duty, and could only be used for simple tasks in basic training. One said: ``Some of the strictly-religious drink alcohol, eat pork, and we`ve also tested Muslims positive for drugs.``

Confessions of a schizo psycho paki councillor thinking that it is also a western ausssie pussie counsellor

[OzChick #36 - By the way, i think he is quite good looking... ]
[OzChick #40 - I have done some research on him and find him to be a fine Australian]
[OzChick #41 - Yes I am a pyscho]
[OzChick #42 - we experience any trauma, and by trauma i mean, sexual, physical, psychological abuse, death of parents, divorced parents, living in war and the like]
[OzChick #42 - Childhood abuse causes a variety of mental issues ranging from depression, psychosis, borderline personality disorder, OCD and much more]
[OzChick #43 - Look up `countertransferrence`!]
[OzChick #44 - ...busy searching for a psycho]
[OzChick #45 - ...voices in the head are getting louder]
[OzChick #48 - I sense a lot of hostility]
[OzChick #49 - ...with mental problems]
[OzChick #51 - This isn`t normal.]
[OzChick #52 - ...truly delusional]
[OzChick #53 - By the way this isn`t about the author anymore]
[OzChick #55 - MMM...]
[OzChick #57 - You...have failed to gain the authors attention]
[OzChick #60 - I am sure the author has got better things to do than read any of the postings

This would be good study material to analyze a paki she-male double-lifed schizo. It is obvious that the female half (OzChick) has serious hots for the male half (OzPaki) and has started talking on his behalf. The question is what would the offspring of the schizo union be like?

[It is interesting to note that since the supposedly ``OzChick`` began posting here the author of this article is nowhere to be seen]

Not only that OxChick counsellor got created only after OzPaki councillor stopped posting.

Re:65

They won`t be back for a while now: the schizophrenic-half OzUnionLeader councillor is busy with the other schizophrenic-half OxChick counsellor.

It is interesting to note that since the supposedly ``OzChick`` began posting here the author of this article is nowhere to be seen.

This brings me to a question....


Dear chowk,
don`t you have any policies against people using multiple identities ?

-thanks
Sri

Do not vote for schizophrenic she-male paki councillors. They want to establish islamic sharia law in australia. Here are reasons why it is a good idea to kick all Pakis out of Oz before Australia becomes Ozrapistan:

- Pakistan`s cricket board has launched an investigation into claims a player (Shoib Akhtar) on tour in Australia raped a woman in a Melbourne hotel. The woman reported the alleged rape to the Centre Against Sexual Assault during the Boxing Day Test match in Melbourne.

- In a Muslim dominated area of Sydney two policemen stopped a car containing three well-known men to search for stolen property. As the police carried out their search they were physically threatened and the three men claimed they were going to track them down, kill them and then rape their girlfriends.

- In three decades of immigration into Western countries, Islam has caused social upheaval and havoc in every one of its host countries. No other immigration program has encountered the problems of non-assimilation and religious ambiguity.

- Everywhere in the world, Muslims are in conflict with their neighbours. And as Mark Steyn recently said, every conflict appears to have originated by someone with the name of Mohammed.

- In July 2005, Melbourne Sheik Mohammad Omran told Sixty Minutes that “...we believe we have more rights than you because we choose Australia to be our home and you didn’t. “

- In Australia, Lebanese Christians have assimilated and become a respected part of our community. The Premier of Victoria is a Lebanese Christian as is the Governor Of New South Wales. However, Lebanese Muslims have encountered serious problems because of their refusal to accept our right to live our way of life. Nothing so clearly demonstrates that it is not an issue of race — but of sick culture

- In Australia, when journalist Paul Sheehan reported honestly on the Sydney gang rapes, he was called a racist by Pakistanis and accused of stirring up anti-Muslim hatred.

- After September 11th, Americans were advised to ask themselves, ``Why do they hate us?`` Now Australians need to ask themselves, ``Why do they rape us?`` As Monroe Reimers put it on the letters page of The Sydney Morning Herald

- Last year, 11 Muslim men were arrested for enjoying a grand old tournante (take your turn) with a 14-year old girl in a cellar.

Re: http://www.chowk.com/show_article.cgi?aid=00006432

[I was in pakistan just last december and I notice how there is a sort of schizophrenia in the country: people are craving for the West, especially the US, whilst at the same time, pretending they loath it.

I think it is lack of achievement on the global scale, the social problems which beset pakistan, the lack of opportunities for the youth, and a justifiable pride in being part of a global Ummah which was once great which cause this.]

Asifjuk, you have given a very good analysis. Schizophrenia among pakistanis is also becoming common in Australia. Even this pakistani oz councillor counsellor is describing how it happens. He says pakis in australia lead a double life: one at home and one outside.

That is likely why they end up gangraping very young australian children or in sudden fits of schizophrenia begin to believe they are not males but actually insomniac western ozzi female shrinks.

[Yes i am a female and sorry to disappoint you i am not the author. I am sure he has got better things to do than read any of the postings]

You know that? So you have started counselling the councillor also? Did the paki union leader ke aulad oz councillor tell you that in your male voice?

[And by the way in Australia women can do what they please and anytime they please.]

Sure. Any civilized human being would believe that aussie women have better things to do than defend paki gangrapists and commie union leaders ke aulad, and ``counselling`` SE Asians on chowk.com after midnight.

Yo paki oz ``counsellor``, I`ll tell you why you`re up after midnight waiting desparately for my posts - you have learnt so much about yourself that you can`t resist learning more. When you`re out of a job after elections, come back and I`ll tell more about you and the history of how rapist pakis became rapist pakis in the first place.

yo ``green`` paki councillor! aur kitne din ch00tiya banaoge aussie logon ko. dekhte hein.

O.k Khalid loser... i probably understood half of what you wrote. I have now realised for sure that you are delusional and are certainly suffering from countertransferrence. Yes i am a female and sorry to disappoint you i am not the author. I am sure he has got better things to do than read any of the postings. I on the other hand, am quite amused with your postings and felt like having a laugh tonight so i stayed logged on. And by the way in Australia women can do what they please and anytime they please. Why can`t women stay up past twelve oclock in your part of the world?

Bad news is your treatment ends now. I wont reply to your postings unless i get ten postings from you and if you are lucky you will get one from me. And please in English not your language. SO ten postings in a row or you will have to find yourself another psychologist

From your article: [Young Pakistanis are misunderstood by their parents and many live two lives - one inside their community and another outside]

To that add: ``We pakis also live two genders - one as gangrapist males and one as fantasy westen OxChick females``

So this paki councillor in oz wants us to believe that western aussie women sit up after midnight on chowk.com waiting desparately to analyze posts of who they believe are SE Asian men. What a delusional paki joker!

Yo paki! You`ve changed yourself into a western woman so that you can rape yourself? Do you usually do that after every full moon? How sick can you paki child-molesting-followers-of-child-molester get?

Yo paki psycho union leader! Sniffing more homegrown pure paki powder in that cave? Has gabriel started talking to you too?

sala rapist mullah kahin ka! aa gaya vote maangnay. apna tasveer laga kar chowk me.

By the way if you are trying to communicate with me, learn to speak English and dont use foreign words that i dont understand. Does that make you feel more powerful?

Secondly i have come to further conclusions about the issues that plague you.

I believe that you must be suffering immensely as your attention seeking behaviours have failed to gain the authors attention.

I also believe that you have serious issues in dealing and communicating with females, especially females that are outspoken like myself, females that have an opinion and know how to express it.

Or is it that you have an inferiority complex because i am a westerner?

Yo paki, I never get angry.

But bloody hell I will expose you pakis living in every society wet dreaming of creating 7th century dhimmi caliphates by trampling on our freedom, and taking innocent child victims.

You jihadis have done enough damage in USA, India, Afghanistan and Bangladesh.

Now it is time for you 7th century mothballs to be dragged out like Saddam from under every dark hole, packed in the same rusty containers and shipped back to your ummah land.

Because of paki commie union leader psychos like you, decent peaceful muslims find it difficult to live anywhere on earth.

MMM... i sense khallid is getting angrier.... i guess i can assume you haven`t taken your medication. Anyhow back to our psychoanalysis session. Close your eyes and count backwards from ten and take d e e p breathes and relax.

[Whatever happened to you as a child, i am sure you can turn that all around]

Is that what happened to you paki psychos? Do you get raped as a 9 year olds by your local maulvi living out his 7th century ayesha fantasies? Is that why you end up raping innocent kids you see in Australia, Sweden, Denmark, etc.

And is that why you become councillors in kafir countries?

So that you can bring your paki sharia law which allows gang rape?
So that you can defend rapists and beg the judge to pardon, citing cultural differences that lead to brutal attacks?

And is that why you write such sorry articles? Because you`re sh!t scared you aren`t going to get a single vote for the paki behavior? Dude, get ready for some serious exposure in marickville. Your self-admitted double-life wont go too much further.

By the way this isn`t about the author anymore, it`s about you and all your sick fantasies. If anyone is a sicko it`s you and not the author or anyone else. YOu are perverted. A decent human being would`nt talk of child abuse in such a manner so vulgar. Is that all you think about? This is so troubling now. You need to be in a mental asylum and away from everyone. You are a danger to society.

START TAKING YOUR MEDICATION. You are getting too angry now and too defensive.

You better take your medication. You are truly delusional. What are you on anyhow?

Khalid

Whatever happened to you as a child, i am sure you can turn that all around. You are transferring all that anger resultant from your traumatic experiences onto others. This isn`t normal. You seem to be obsessed with perverse thoughts and fantasies which is quite worrying really. You know, you will feel better speaking to an expert. If you are uncomfortable about seeing a psychologist i suggest going to a counsellor or your local gp and just talking. YOu get so defensive and so angry and so hostile. I hope that you dont demonstrate such anger to those around you. Go for a nice stroll at the park or a nice walk on the beach and just unwind.

Scared of losing council votes? Is that why you needed a new nick today, you schizophrenic double-lifed paki dick?

How about more nicks: NorwayChick, BritChick, SwedeChick, DenChick, EuroChick, BongChick, IndoChick, AfghanChick, KiwiChick for all your other gangrape victim nationalities?

You inbred pakis are the worst specimens of the most incurable genetic disorder. So analyze yourself. Isn`t that why you want your picture on your article? So you can analyze yourself everytime someone responds to your pathetic excuse for your rapist behavior?

You begged and you were given a country Islamic Republic of Pakistan, why don`t you just stay there and rape it to your heart`s content? Raping is allowed by law there. Instead you 7th century container mothballs slip illegally into every civilized society and wreak havoc on human beings.

My name sounds like a SE Asian? Well yours sounds like a paki psycho fantasizing about his next rape victim.

Khalid
No i dont sit in front of the computer analysing everyone. Your postings just happened to get my attention because instantly i sensed you were disturbed. Your postings got my attention in 2 articles because as a psychologist i am trained to recognise people with mental problems

Khalid

You sound like such an angry human being (if i can call you that). I strongly suggest you deal with the internal conflict. As i mentioned, consult with a mental health professional. I don`t know whether you are on any medication? Perhaps you have stopped taking your meds? The first step however is to acknowledge you have a problem. People with personality disorders often do not admit to it because they see nothing wrong with themselves. Instead of taking my opinion why dont you make an appointment to see a mental health worker.

I sense as mentioned earllier attention-seeking behaviour. I sense a lot of hostility which is quite worrying. Are you as hostile to the people around you? Statistics show that people who are so hostile as you have shown yourself to be, often are perpetrators in domestic violence and the like. I sense a lot of resentment towards south-east asians and Australians (yet your name sounds like its from s e asia). You tend to generalise quite a bit. This my dear is called `narrow-mindedness`. I actually pity you and that is why i am asking you to get help.

Here we are dealing with not only your racist attitude but also your mental problem. Start taking your meds. You will feel a lot better and those around you will be thankful

A

[I would like to think that since you haven`t replied yet, you are busy searching for a psychologist in you area.]

Unlike you psychos, I don`t sit in front of the computer and wait to read and anal-yze somebody`s reply.

You mentioned, let`s see: depression, psychosis, borderline personality disorder, OCD, sexual trauma, physical trauma, psychological abuse, death of parents, divorced parents, living in war, abandoned as a child, too many siblings...

So all these happened to you, you inbred paki psycho? Is that why you folks go about gangraping underage kids down under? Or is it because you read about an old man doing it in an old medieval book.

Khalid

Are the voices in your head getting louder? Do you find you respond to your own questions sometimes? You are honestly a pathetic little man (and i mean little in every respect) who preaches hatred and resentment. You mentioned castration, is that what happened to you dear?
Seek the help of a psychologist.

Re; 41 MSK:

[ yes i am a psycho logist ... People usually attack what they are threatened of. ]

You are threatened of aussie kids? Is that why you pakis are attacking and gang raping 13 year old aussie girls?

What kind of a paki psycho are you, pinup gigolo? Not just you, your whole pakistan is full of psychos. Preying on little ayeshas like medieval psychopaths. Like you write in your article, you live double lives - one at home, one outside society. You schizophrenics should be castrated before you are let loose in civilized societies like australia.

And now you pyschos are immigrating to western countries and wrecking the societies. Your photo shows that evidence of all mental issues not just intense desire for attention, depression, deep moghul psychosis, complete personality disorder, LSD and much more.

I would like to think that since you haven`t replied yet, you are busy searching for a psychologist in you area.

Khalid

Look up `countertransferrence`!

Khalid

Let me explain a few things to you. I do not know you personally (thankfully) however it is so obvious that there are issues which you need to address. There is no doubt in my mind that either you had a traumatic childhood or have had these beliefs reinforced as a child by someone or some people in your life.

When we are young, actually from when we are in the womb even, there is what you call sensitive periods. If we experience any trauma, and by trauma i mean, sexual, physical, psychological abuse, death of parents, divorced parents, living in war and the like, neurochemical and neuroanatomical changes occur in the brain. Research has shown and i could send you a list of excellent articles (peer-reviewed) that state the effects of childhood abuse in adulthood. Childhood abuse causes a variety of mental issues ranging from depression, psychosis, borderline personality disorder, OCD and much more.

The good thing is that with the correct help or medication you can be successfully treated (in most cases).

If on the other hand by continually reinforcement you `brainwashed` then it is a little bit more difficilt to rescue yourself from yourself. Again however, i would like to reinforce the idea to you that seeking the help of a psychologist or mental health professional is not negatively stigmatised.

Khalid loser

I have had a browse through all your postings and there doesnt appear to be anything new. You are constantly repeating yourself. Are you trying to convince yourself of your views or others?
From a psychological perspective and correct me if i am wrong (yes i am a psychologist) i sense you have quite a few issues which you need to deal with as soon as possible. As i mentioned i have had a browse through your postings and i see two issues. Firstly, i see attention-seeking behaviour. Were you abandoned as a child or were there too many siblings and your parents could not provide you with the attention you require? What happened that has caused you to have such low self esteem and worth? The hatred and resentment clearly depicts internal turmoil? People usually attack what they are threatened of. I honestly think you should find a psychologist/counsellor to talk to. The stigma associated with seeing a psychologist or psychiatrist is not as it used to be. People go to psychologists not only if they have mental issues but also to talk to have someone to listen to them.

You truly are obsessed with the author aren`t you? Is it because you are threatened or insecure? Or is it because you are a white supremist? Or a hindu nationalist?
Let me tell you the following. After reading the authors article i have done some research on him and find him to be a fine Australian. You on the other hand, are preaching hate and racism. Whoever the f### you are and wherever the f### you are, stay there!!!! Australia doesnt need such racist pricks like yourself who have this inbuilt hatred.
For your information dewan IS an INDIAN so please before saying something, get your facts right.

[By the way the official accused in Melbourne last week was an INDIAN. Get your facts right ]

Read before you post hiding behind an aussie girl nick, dick. from INDIA This is what I wrote in post# 32. Read a few times for it to sink in:


Why are you taking it out on me? Couldn`t find any 13-year-old Aussie girl for showing your Pakiness?

It is because of immigrant Pakis that Muslims are getting a bad name. Last week another Pakistani muslim immigrant (Dewan Asgar Nabi) from India was caught sexually assaulting a 16-year old Aussie girl at the commonwealth games. Read this:

Four days after he set foot in Australia, the rape spree began. And during his sexual assault trial in a New South Wales courtroom, the Pakistani man began to berate one of his tearful 14-year-old victims because she had the temerity to shake her head at his testimony.

After taking an oath on the Qur’an, the man – known only as MSK (MSK? We know what SK stands for don`t we?) – told the court he had committed four attacks on girls as young as 13 because they had no right to say “no.” They were not covering their face or wearing a headscarf, and therefore, the rapist proclaimed: “I’m not doing anything wrong.”
In his own defence, he argued that his cultural background, was responsible for his crimes.

And he is right. In some parts of Pakistan, sexual assault – including gang rape – is officially sanctified as a legitimate form of enforcing the social value system.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=20535

Dewan Asgar Nabi was a leftover Paki immigrant into India. Like all good paki immigrants in aussie like MSK, his paki instincts showed itself when he saw an aussie ayesha.

And note, just because you transform your h!jra identity into OzChick doesn`t mean you can hide that hideous SK stink. At least change your narcissist writing style if you want to hide behind another fantasy white female kid nick, dick.

Khalid loser

By the way the official accused in Melbourne last week was an INDIAN. Get your facts right before you spread your filth.

Hi Khalid_ahmad

It is quite ironic that you use a muslim name but come across as a white supremist or some hindu extremist!!!
You are wasting so much energy on this, it is quite amusing really? Seriously now, you seem to have a lot of anger which can only stem from insecurities. I have read the article myself and commend the author for it. I am an Australian and i welcome these ideas. You on the other hand have some serious psychological issues. Did a Pakistani ever do anything to you personally or are you just a hateful maggot?
Get a life. You are embarrasing yourself. At least the author has the courage to put his face and his name to his words. What about you? By the way, i think he is quite good looking...

Pakistanis are the worst immigrants in any country.

The cartoon controversy erupted in Denmark only because Pakistanis are the largest immigrant group in that country.

Here are more examples of Paki rapist behavior:

- In Australia`s New South Wales Supreme Court in December 2005, a visiting Pakistani rapist testified that his victims had no right to say no, because they were not wearing a headscarf

- In Copenhagen, Denmark Islamic mufti and scholar, Shahid Mehdi created uproar when he stated that women who did not wear a headscarf were asking to be raped

- In Malmo, the third largest city in Sweden, the police have admitted, Dashti says, that they no longer control the city. “It is effectively ruled by violent gangs of Muslim immigrants.”

- Channel 4 ... to show how Pakistani and other Muslim men sexually abused young, white English girls as young as 11.

- In three decades of immigration into Western countries, Islam has caused social upheaval and havoc in every one of its host countries. No other immigration program has encountered the problems of non-assimilation and religious ambiguity.

- Three Pakistani gang rapists who are facing life in jail yesterday begged a judge to be pardoned, citing cultural differences that led to the brutal attack, immaturity on their part and hardship within their families if they were imprisoned. But Supreme Court Justice Brian Sully said ``culture or no culture``, a strong message needed to be sent to other young men that such horrific sex crimes against women will not be tolerated in modern society.

- On Thursday, in Cunneen`s latest prosecution, a jury found two more men, Pakistan-born Muslims whose names have been suppressed by the court, guilty of the violent gang rapes of two teenage girls in Ashfield last year.

- A woman from Norway asks, ``So how come Norwegians have to bend over to Pakistanis who can`t control themselves when they see non muslim girls?``

Any immigration law to throw Pakistanis out will ensure peace and tranquility in the respective countries

Instead of standing up for the rights of Aussie rape victim kids, you are blaming the Aussie society for all your frikkin problems. Instead of burning paki flags, by your silence you are endorsing paki rapist behavior. For you, some stupid cartoon is more offensive than the sexual violation of an innocent kid by paki gangsters.

Even distinguished and extremely accomplished chowk posters like Prof. Hoodbhoy don`t flaunt their photos. But you do. In the hope that some Aussie kid can be snared?

Grow a spine instead of whining all your life, paki loser pinup boy.

Re: # 32

Thanks for proving me right!!!

[The likes of you and harimu are nothing more than faceless racist cyber-pests]

Why are you taking it out on me? Couldn`t find any 13-year-old Aussie girl for showing your Pakiness?

It is because of immigrant Pakis that Muslims are getting a bad name. Last week another Pakistani muslim immigrant (Dewan Asgar Nabi) from India was caught sexually assaulting a 16-year old Aussie girl at the commonwealth games. Read this:

Four days after he set foot in Australia, the rape spree began. And during his sexual assault trial in a New South Wales courtroom, the Pakistani man began to berate one of his tearful 14-year-old victims because she had the temerity to shake her head at his testimony.

After taking an oath on the Qur’an, the man – known only as MSK (MSK? We know what SK stands for don`t we?) – told the court he had committed four attacks on girls as young as 13 because they had no right to say “no.” They were not covering their face or wearing a headscarf, and therefore, the rapist proclaimed: “I’m not doing anything wrong.”
In his own defence, he argued that his cultural background, was responsible for his crimes.

And he is right. In some parts of Pakistan, sexual assault – including gang rape – is officially sanctified as a legitimate form of enforcing the social value system.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=20535

Re: # 30

Kahlid- after 17 pieces of senseless BS you deserve this...

The likes of you and harimu are nothing more than faceless racist cyber-pests. Indeed, your ugly existence has a use...you act as a warning for what this entire world could become if we stop trying....

Now you can slide back into your hole!

MUSLIM MANIFESTO: All critiques of Islam should be countered not by threats and violence, but by rational counter-argument.

Why are Pakistanis scared of this? What PakDef refuses to discuss is here:
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/akyol_baran200603010816.asp

MUSLIM MANIFESTO: We strongly denounce anti-Semitism. We accept Israel`s right to exist.

Why are Pakistanis scared of this? What PakDef refuses to discuss is here:
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/akyol_baran200603010816.asp

MUSLIM MANIFESTO: Like men, women should have the right to decide how they will live, dress, travel, marry and divorce; if they do not enjoy these rights, they are clearly second-class citizens.

Why are Pakistanis scared of this? What PakDef refuses to discuss is here:
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/akyol_baran200603010816.asp

MUSLIM MANIFESTO: We accept the legitimacy of the secular state and the secular law. Islamic law, or sharia, was developed at a time when Muslims were living in homogenous communities. In the modern world, virtually all societies are pluralistic, consisting of different faiths and of different perceptions of each faith, including Islam. In this pluralistic setting, a legal system based on a particular version of a single religion cannot be imposed on all citizens.

Why are Pakistanis scared of this? What PakDef refuses to discuss is here:
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/akyol_baran200603010816.asp

MUSLIM MANIFESTO: We support and cherish democracy — not because we reject the sovereignty of the Almighty over people, but because we believe that this sovereignty is manifested in the general will of people in a democratic and pluralistic society. We do not accept theocratic rule.

Why are Pakistanis scared of this? What PakDef refuses to discuss is here:
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/akyol_baran200603010816.asp

MUSLIM MANIFESTO: we cherish religious liberty. Every human has the right to believe or not to believe in Islam or in any other religion All Muslims furthermore have the right to reject and change their religion if desired.

Why are Pakistanis scared of this? What PakDef refuses to discuss is here:
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/akyol_baran200603010816.asp

MUSLIM MANIFESTO: We also believe that terrorist acts can never be justified or excused. None of the challenges Muslims face, such as oppression or military occupation, can justify attacks against non-combatants. In the Holy Koran, Allah orders Muslims to ``never let hatred of anyone lead you into the sin of deviating from justice.`` (5:8)

Why are Pakistanis scared of this? What PakDef refuses to discuss is here:
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/akyol_baran200603010816.asp

[only when educated expat muslims like you shout and rant against this propping up of these mullahs then you can be assured that these conservatives lose out]

What a joke! These mullahs log on to chowk read these articles and get educated. The article is nothing but the usual muslim whine heard in kafir countries. The only reasons for such articles is to put the blame somewhere else, and paste one`s own ``macho`` picture.

There is a way how muslims can be like other progressive immigrant communities. For that we have to re-format our brains of all the koranic crap instilled in our heads since birth. Many Indian muslims can show how.

``This is a nonsense, since these people do not represent the community.

Some mosques act as de facto community centres but most are dominated by conservative religious factions who often resist using mosques for anything but religion``

Your article is the right way to respond to these conservatives.............remember, the white conservatives love it when the mullah shouts Jehad in his weekly friday sermons.........actually these mullahs also get hyped up by the white conservative media so as to create sensationalism ............only when educated expat muslims like you shout and rant against this propping up of these mullahs then you can be assured that these conservatives lose out and do not remain a media news item for the conservative white......................only then you can peacefully enjoy the fruits of the western civilization.............so keep on shouting down these mullahs in th white media......if OBL spouts nonsense on Al-Jazeera we should shout him down in the western media.....remember the mullah rants are nothing but his publicity stunt to get him attention..................so we need to deny him the advantage that he appears to gain out of sensationalism..................

Re:19, 20

[The Nation of Islam calls white folks Satans.]

So do the Iranians, Talibanis and a whole lot of Pakistanis.



[The Muslim astronaut could carry a prayer rug with him with a compass embedded at one corner which would always show him the direction of Mecca.]

A compass working in space? What is it, another spectacular breakthrough in madarasa technology?

Ref khalid_ahmad #11

[You don`t have to apologize for associating with the left. Left, right, up, down are all relative. Direction is meaningless. Think scientifically - if a muslim astronaut ever went into space, which direction he would pray? East, west, left, right etc. are meaningless.]

The Muslim astronaut could carry a prayer rug with him with a compass embedded at one corner which would always show him the direction of Mecca. Saudia used to hand these out as gifts to passengers on its flight some time back.

Or, like Malaysian Airways, there would be a TV screen always showing the direction of Mecca. But since the satellite would be travelling rather fast, the direction of Mecca would be constantly changing. Maybe they could design a rotating platform that always aligns the arrow with the direction of Mecca no matter where the satellite is at any given time.

Hey, that looks like a PhD dissertation out of Ghulam Ishaq Khan Institute of Technology! Any takers?

Ref khalid_ahmad #18

{Re: # 15
[Hopefully not someone from the Nation of Islam.]

Why this racism? Is Black Islam any worse than Brown Islam? Isn`t that also why 3 million Bangladeshis were killed by Pakistanis? Because they felt the dark Bengali Islam is inferior to the Punjabi Islam?}

The Nation of Islam calls white folks Satans. They preach racism. Having a Nation of Islam preacher in Sydney calling Australians (the majority of whom are still white) Satans is the last thing Aussie Muslims need if they want to integrate into Aussie society.

Re: # 15
[Hopefully not someone from the Nation of Islam.]

Why this racism? Is Black Islam any worse than Brown Islam? Isn`t that also why 3 million Bangladeshis were killed by Pakistanis? Because they felt the dark Bengali Islam is inferior to the Punjabi Islam?

Re: # 16

No one is forcing muslims to emigrate to Netherlands. The video test is a good thing. If a video offends muslims so much, then you can be sure some Pakistani jehadi will bomb himself to pieces in front of a window in the famous Red Light District in eager anticipation of the 72 he would get in heaven. Muslims have proven themselves to be dangerous in every civilized society. We cannot blame the Dutch for this.

Ref khalid_ahmad #5

[All other immigrants seem to be getting along hunky dory in their respective communities all over the world, except us muslims. Why? Hasn`t it occurred that our own idea of tolerance and acceptance of foreign beliefs in our own native lands can also be found in people belonging to another land? Obviously we muslim immigrants left our allah-blessed muslim nations because the situation there is worse than kafir lands. So why complain now? If the situation is so bad, why not go back to dear mama land? Why should the kafirs change for us?]

So the government of Netherlands has got a new test for immigrants. They got to watch a video where two men kiss each other and a topless woman emerges from the sea in a crowded beach. Those who find the video disgusting are going to denied immigrant status in Netherlands.

The potential immigrants have to BUY the video. So it is not like paying $10 to watch porn on your hotel TV. It costs quite a bit more.

Ref Kulharee #1

[...Aussie Muslims should invite some speakers from the US Muslim community. That will surely help.]

Hopefully not someone from the Nation of Islam.

Let alone western kafir countries like Australia, even Islamic Malaysia is kicking out Pakistanis because of their inability to integrate positively with the local population. Read this:

Kuala Lumpur, March 14 2006 - Malaysia is to crack down on scores of Bangladeshis and Pakistanis - who a minister says look like Hindi film actors - who arrive on student visas to study English language but end up working illegally on construction sites or in restaurants.

Besides flouting visa rules, they cause ``social problems``, Home Minister Datuk Seri Radzi Sheikh Ahmad said, but did not elaborate what these ``social problems`` were.

``They have blue eyes and look like Hindi film actors and they create social problems here,`` Radzi was quoted by the local media as saying.

When told that Bangladesh had been replaced by Pakistan as a source country for foreign workers where the people had similar looks, Radzi said he anticipated ``similar problems.``

More shocking behavior of muslims in kafir lands can be found here:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=21502

[why Pakistan is still as wretched as it was when it first came into existence.]

If this were true, it would be a compliment to Pakistan. But all indicators and parameters show that Pakistan is far worse today than it was in 1947. All its priorities are screwed up. It has not succeeded even on its single minded obsession into which it has poured all its energy & resources - to destroy India with a million pricks. A million pricks it certainly has, but they haven`t been able to do sh!t to stop India`s re-emergence as a great civilization. Even becoming a chinese colony hasn`t helped it.

Pakistan can learn from the Indian muslims who are destined to become the spokespeople and torchbearers of tolerant Islam worldwide, including Australia. Or it can continue to repeat its follies and see itself get dismembered into insignificance as surely as it was once taught in 1971. If it doesn`t learn soon, Afghans are likely to teach it a new lesson in the near future.

#11 by khalid_ahmad

[Israel and Pakistan were created at the same time in human history. Now you tell what is the state of the nation that depends on Arab bheek for oil and madrassa money. Allah ke naam de de baba.]

Yaar Khalid, not many Pakis ever pause to think why Israel (or even India), created at about the same time as Pakistan was, have arrived on the world stage and why Pakistan is still as wretched as it was when it first came into existence. But most Pakis are worried about whether Islam permits this, Islam permits that and other such BS (one Paki I know of has a Gandhi fetish) that have absolutely no relevance to their day to day lives. Unless they overcome this mindset, there is absolutely no hope for Pakistan.

You don`t have to apologize for associating with the left. Left, right, up, down are all relative. Direction is meaningless. Think scientifically - if a muslim astronaut ever went into space, which direction he would pray? East, west, left, right etc. are meaningless.

As regards to muslim assimilation in modern societies, we should learn from the Jews. They have suffered from the worst kinds of discrimination and racial violence. That is why the whining from the aussie muslims sound like a kindergartener soiling its pants and blaming someone else for it.

Jews have been ridiculed and massacred, and they continue to be so even to this day. However in retaliation they never strapped on bombs, covered their genitals with aluminium foil or blew themselves up in crowded places. They don`t vandalize shops or burn flags and effigies.

What did they do? They went back to their ``ummah`` and created a democratic society there, without military dictators. They educated themselves into the brightest brains of the century. They gathered Nobel prizes in all fields and became valuable assets for their adopted countries. With their wealth they created companies, set up hospitals and world class educational institutions everywhere they lived. One thing they didnt do was keep whining about discrimination. They faced it and responded positively.

Israel and Pakistan were created at the same time in human history. Now you tell what is the state of the nation that depends on Arab bheek for oil and madrassa money. Allah ke naam de de baba. Are you still wondering why Allah has always been on the side of the kafirs? Like the kindergartener with the soiled pants, the blame lays within. Let us stop sh!tting on the adopted countries we live in. Let us look inwards. And let us help the societies we live in - even if they are kafir societies. After all, we made the choice of living there, and we could always go back to mama land if we wanted to.

Re: # 9

Khalid (or whoever)- firstly, my apologies for associating with the left!
Secondly, have another read cause you are barking up the wrong CHOWK mate.
Saeed

If by ``majority`` you mean ``most people I know``, then I give up, there is no argument. You can continue to live deep inside your delusions.

On the other hand, by ``majority`` most others refer to people`s opinions surveyed using scientific and respected polls. In this case, the majority viewpoint throughout the world is that:

- muslims of all directions (left, right, near left, far right, west facing, east facing...) are less tolerant to western values than other immigrants
- muslim immigrants generally speak one thing in public and the opposite inside their circles
- muslim immigrants generally do not oppose or protest violent acts of fellow muslims
- muslims immigrants generally get brainwashed by frothing mullahs and maulvis after the Friday prayers
- muslim immigrants generally don`t protest ill-treatment of minorities in their own ummah lands
- muslim immigrants generally believe that kafirs deserve to die
- muslim immigrants generally hope and pray that the kafir lands become dar-ul-islam

The solution? These rabid muslims must be rounded up and deported to their original ummah lands where they can live in harmony with the other beards. It is a very simple solution and it is happening everyday. For example, plane loads of pakistanis being rounded up and escorted in flying containers to their wonderful Pakistan is fairly common news. It is a fact that Pakistani muslims have brought shame and disrepute to peaceloving muslims from elsewhere.

If you feel discriminated in kafir lands, go back to ummah lands and campaign for equal rights under shariah law. Then you can also become ``one eyed``, ``one limbed`` or ``one fingered`` like the rest of us.

Re: # 7

Thanks Khalid!

I don`t think you are talking about the majority of Muslims living in the west. It`s the tiny fringes on the far-right (and on the far-left...like you) that are just good at making noise. Most people I know make a good effort to integrate within western society. However, it does take time for migrant communities to be fully integrated. Representation is a major part of this integration.

Now, putting your one-eyed views aside, what is your solution?

Saeed

Kulharee - The US is a good example. It is truly a melting pot - for those who choose to melt into it. But Muslims (generally speaking), want to be in the pot but don`t want to melt with the rest. It is no wonder that they feel they are treated like slag.

It is the worst dilemma to be in - on the one hand muslims leave their ummah lands in a hurry to get into the first container heading for the west. On the other hand, the ingrained religion teaches their brainwashed heads to reject anything western.

Such a psychological conflict inside their heads must certainly unleash bizzare behaviors. And we see examples of that everyday.

Re: # 5

Khalid, in the US, all migrant groups went thru their initial challenges, so recent Muslim immigrants in the west are no different in that respect. Turn of the last century, in NYC, “Irish not allowed” signs were not uncommon, or Jews living in lower east side ghettos, or Italians, or Greeks. Our Governor Mario Cuomo couldn’t get a job at any Law firm in NYC (this was in the 60s) because of his Italian heritage. The trend later continued with Hispanics, and so on. The writer is suggesting that Muslim immigrants’ challenges are no unique and each group braves tests offered by a new culture (it is taxing on both sides, not just on immigrants). And out of those challenges come the solutions and opportunities. Therefore, it is important for immigrants to speak up and find their niche, and suggest alternatives. It is the not the same as crying foul as you seem to be suggesting. However, your point is very valid.

When it comes to muslim issues, it is always a ``problem created by someone else``. This article is no different.

``The aussies must do this : the government must do that : the politicians must do this``.

This pattern is common among muslim immigrant all over the world. I could replace ``Australia`` with ``My Favorite kafir Country for immigration`` and the sorry story is still the same.

All other immigrants seem to be getting along hunky dory in their respective communities all over the world, except us muslims. Why? Hasn`t it occurred that our own idea of tolerance and acceptance of foreign beliefs in our own native lands can also be found in people belonging to another land? Obviously we muslim immigrants left our allah-blessed muslim nations because the situation there is worse than kafir lands. So why complain now? If the situation is so bad, why not go back to dear mama land? Why should the kafirs change for us?

Pssst. Here is a little hint. Let us look inwards first.

It would be a mistake to blame John Howard`s success only due to racism. Prudent economic management and sustained economic growth have also been a factor. Not many are willing to go back to the days of 17% interest rates as in the last term of the labour government.

Then there is the TINA (There Is No Alternative) factor. John Howard has seen off four Labor leaders, from Keating to Latham and Kim Beazley`s back again for a third crack at losing, er I mean defeating John Howard.

Some commentators have noted ``Howard is a political success because he has cleverly manipulated the growing sense of fear in Australian voters.`` ``He has given the electorate simple ideas (personal responsibility for everything, including health, education and employment) and people to hate (dole bludgers, Aborigines, asylum seekers, terrorists) as distractions from hard, complicated reality.`` - so what? He is a canny politician and any politician worth his salt will do whatever is required to stay in power.

And as for Pauline Hanson’s politics of division, I think the voters sent a clear message by rejecting her at the elections. Her One Nation Party collapsed — in her home state of Queensland, where it briefly boasted 11 seats, just two remain. She tried a back door entry via new south wales and failed.

Saeed Khan,
I have been in Australia for about two years now.I have not faced racism on a daily basis in Sydney, but I do feel that the Anglo Aussies do not want multiculturalism and are feeling threatened by immigrants. Liberal party`s John Howard, has in the past made comments against Asians. It is not a surprise that the party has won the last three elections. The Labour party which favours immigrants and has been wooing immigrants for votes, has been floundering.
Pauline Hanson, is now into real estate , will she sell a house to an immigrant ?, definately. I wrote a letter to Sydney Morning Herald, regarding this, asking if Hanson, who doesnt want immigrants will sell a house to an immigrant.
Peter Costello`s recent comments are seen by anaylists as an attempt to repair his damaged leadership campaign. In doing so he has needlessly inflamed opinion against muslims. I was also dissapointed that channel nine choose to interview Hanson with regards to Peter Costello comments.

Re: # 1

Thanks Kulharee!

I guess all new communities go through this at one stage or another.

Muslims in Australia are relatively new and don`t have the kind of numbers you do in the US or Europe.

I agree we could learn from community experiences in the US and Europe.

As far as leadership is concerned all Muslims living in the west could do better!

saeed

You have got your Wogs and Skips, and we’ve got our Chinks and Spicks. But in terms of race relations, Australia is way way behind the Unites States, but not far behind Europe. Recent unrest in France made the Europeans re-evaluate their public policy of ghettoizing Muslim migrants and keeping them as close to the margins as possible. In USA, that’s not been the case since the turn of the last century. Part of it is the concerted effort in the political environment (to attract migrant votes) and part of it is the leadership within the migrant communities. Aussie Muslims should invite some speakers from the US Muslim community. That will surely help.