Farzana Versey March 22, 2006
#160 Posted by SR on March 23, 2006 3:07:53 pm
This is unsual... hardly any defenders of the faith seen in this thread. Zeena is one but where are most of the others? Perhaps the word Kibbutz in the title turned them off. Very well then, its time to be an apologist... Okay...here is a good one! Who says there is no freedom of expression in the Arab world?
An Arab TV showed a debate recently aired a debate in which a professional Arab woman declares she does not believe in Islam, and favorably compares Jews to present day Muslims. The Arab world watch her live, so can you. Look and hear what she says , English sub-titles are provided.
...SR
An Arab TV showed a debate recently aired a debate in which a professional Arab woman declares she does not believe in Islam, and favorably compares Jews to present day Muslims. The Arab world watch her live, so can you. Look and hear what she says , English sub-titles are provided.
...SR
#161 Posted by mohar11 on March 23, 2006 3:16:55 pm
Re: # 160 sr
good one.... I hope muslims would listen to her - but I doubt it.... I mean - if an educated elite mulsim like FV can be steeped in islamic idiocy - what can you expect from Abdul Lungi?.... it`s hopeless....
good one.... I hope muslims would listen to her - but I doubt it.... I mean - if an educated elite mulsim like FV can be steeped in islamic idiocy - what can you expect from Abdul Lungi?.... it`s hopeless....
#162 Posted by Zeena on March 23, 2006 5:16:09 pm
#160 SR
Sir
I am absolutely NOT faith defender. There is NO need to defend already (defeated lots), there is NO need to defend , shameless, idiot terrorist Muslims. Yes, I am Jewish defender b/c they are my masters and I have to be faithful to them. I salute Jewish supermacy. These pathetic Muslism don`t need to survive , they need to be eradicated from this planet, called Earth .All they are spreading is their idiocy, poverty and powerlessness. Who has time to waste on such useless pathetic beings, which are curse for themselves? Yes, their days are already numbered.
Sir
I am absolutely NOT faith defender. There is NO need to defend already (defeated lots), there is NO need to defend , shameless, idiot terrorist Muslims. Yes, I am Jewish defender b/c they are my masters and I have to be faithful to them. I salute Jewish supermacy. These pathetic Muslism don`t need to survive , they need to be eradicated from this planet, called Earth .All they are spreading is their idiocy, poverty and powerlessness. Who has time to waste on such useless pathetic beings, which are curse for themselves? Yes, their days are already numbered.
#163 Posted by Pardesi on March 23, 2006 5:18:35 pm
#160 SR
She is an American with Syria background.
I would have been very impressed if she was living in an Arab country, and not in California, and be able to say what she said. However, by Arab standards it is an achievement since there were no riots and demonstrations by 1.4 billion folks after the debate.
#164 Posted by Zeena on March 23, 2006 5:42:04 pm
#160 SR
You see this Syrian Lady surrendered and she is faithful to her Jewish masters. Wonderful. I am so glad to see this debate. Thanks for providing the link. You see this is another SLAP on the terrorist faces of shameless Muslims given by an Arab woman , who is pro jews. Bravo, she is the best. These shameless Muslims will not learn any lesson even from this debate. They are stubborn. Only way to make them realise is to gather them all in one palce and bomb that place. The END. No more fights. Jews will RULE. lONG LIVE JEWISH SUPERMACY.
You see this Syrian Lady surrendered and she is faithful to her Jewish masters. Wonderful. I am so glad to see this debate. Thanks for providing the link. You see this is another SLAP on the terrorist faces of shameless Muslims given by an Arab woman , who is pro jews. Bravo, she is the best. These shameless Muslims will not learn any lesson even from this debate. They are stubborn. Only way to make them realise is to gather them all in one palce and bomb that place. The END. No more fights. Jews will RULE. lONG LIVE JEWISH SUPERMACY.
#166 Posted by khalid_ahmad on March 23, 2006 6:57:45 pm
Zeena:
[You seem pretty smart on pointing out this black hole of muslim women cultural stupidity.]
Actually it is more of a lets-grin-and-bear-it resignation combined with a deep psychosomatic affliction of Stockholm Syndrome. In addition to the stubborn stupidity.
Pardesi:
[However, by Arab standards it is an achievement since there were no riots and demonstrations by 1.4 billion folks after the debate.]
Hold your breath. Like the cartoon contro it will take them 6 months to understand what is happening before they start burning the KFC`s and issuing fatwas against her. Plus she has been speaking out in English. The ``secular brigade`` on chowk will blame it on her jewish masters.
[You seem pretty smart on pointing out this black hole of muslim women cultural stupidity.]
Actually it is more of a lets-grin-and-bear-it resignation combined with a deep psychosomatic affliction of Stockholm Syndrome. In addition to the stubborn stupidity.
Pardesi:
[However, by Arab standards it is an achievement since there were no riots and demonstrations by 1.4 billion folks after the debate.]
Hold your breath. Like the cartoon contro it will take them 6 months to understand what is happening before they start burning the KFC`s and issuing fatwas against her. Plus she has been speaking out in English. The ``secular brigade`` on chowk will blame it on her jewish masters.
#167 Posted by tahmed32 on March 23, 2006 7:00:43 pm
swarrier #157 I of course dont mean all Indians of course - but lets face it, we have some incredible characters among them. Like harimau who has been assuring everyone on chowk that the killing of muslims in gujrat was OK since it was revenge for godhra. or ranjit and gujjubania who expressed great pleasure at the plight of earthquake victims in kashmir who were trapped under fallen buildings. and of course pakistan-obsessed characters like arjun and jay thakeray (his predecessor, who finally quit chowk after several years of arjun-like rubbish on chowk).
While we have losers among pakistanis on chowk, nothing compares to this type of behavior. And I am sorry to say that, since I would like nothing better than to see india and indians do well (as much for their sake as for the sake of Pakistan, since progress in the neighborhood is good for us Pakistanis too). But chowk demonstrates that there is plenty of scum in India.
Coming to the brits: they didnt spread their influence across the world (right down to the language you and i communicate in) for nothing. Of course they had a character which the shameless patang-baaz (i.e. the muslim ``nobility`` of india) were clueless about.
To use just one of your examples: Clive was not treated as a hero by the british for taking over the 12 parganas of bengal, but rather hauled before parliament and roundly condemned: ``I condemn this man in the name of the people of India, whose rights he has trampeled underfoot. I condemn this man in the name of the people of England, whose ancient honor his has sullied. And finally, in the name of every age and every race, I condemn this man as the common enemy and oppressor of all!!`` - and yes, i remember this by heart from school days. :-) and this was in the 18th century!! The rest of them were all empire builders - and guess what: when the empire they built was finished, India was never the same again. Where there had been primitive forms of government (Kingships, constantly at war with one another), the brits left behind a democracy (OK, the military in pakistan screwed up our institutions, but that is desi babus in action again and cant blame it on the brits).
Anyway, lengthy post and sorry about that.
While we have losers among pakistanis on chowk, nothing compares to this type of behavior. And I am sorry to say that, since I would like nothing better than to see india and indians do well (as much for their sake as for the sake of Pakistan, since progress in the neighborhood is good for us Pakistanis too). But chowk demonstrates that there is plenty of scum in India.
Coming to the brits: they didnt spread their influence across the world (right down to the language you and i communicate in) for nothing. Of course they had a character which the shameless patang-baaz (i.e. the muslim ``nobility`` of india) were clueless about.
To use just one of your examples: Clive was not treated as a hero by the british for taking over the 12 parganas of bengal, but rather hauled before parliament and roundly condemned: ``I condemn this man in the name of the people of India, whose rights he has trampeled underfoot. I condemn this man in the name of the people of England, whose ancient honor his has sullied. And finally, in the name of every age and every race, I condemn this man as the common enemy and oppressor of all!!`` - and yes, i remember this by heart from school days. :-) and this was in the 18th century!! The rest of them were all empire builders - and guess what: when the empire they built was finished, India was never the same again. Where there had been primitive forms of government (Kingships, constantly at war with one another), the brits left behind a democracy (OK, the military in pakistan screwed up our institutions, but that is desi babus in action again and cant blame it on the brits).
Anyway, lengthy post and sorry about that.
#168 Posted by khalid_ahmad on March 23, 2006 7:26:27 pm
Re:162:Zeena
[All they are spreading is their idiocy, poverty and powerlessness.]
If that were the case, nobody would mind. There is nothing wrong in poverty, idiocy or powerlessness. These things don`t kill other people. The reason why muslims are a danger to civilized human societies is because they spread bigotry, lawlessness, terrorism and an evil ideology outside their borders. An evil ideology that has no merit today and had no merit in 7th century AD.
#169 Posted by bjkumar on March 23, 2006 8:06:03 pm
I only got a chance to read the first few lines. The trend of the article was pretty clear after that so it was not worth reading the rest – I have no clue why this writer wastes her time ranting and raving so much, especially when she is SO wrong!
I sometimes think that somebody should tie up this author to a chair and not let her out till she completely memorizes and can repeat without breaking the following two paragraphs of what “somebody else” said earlier:
“I do believe that there are many lessons for “we” people (i.e., for those from the subcontinent) if we choose to learn them, by reading about and understanding more of the Jewish experience (which, from all accounts, is without parallel) and especially about the holocaust – both in terms of learning about man’s potential cruelty to man as well as man’s ability to survive against the worst odds. In many ways, the holocaust was (and remains) a most “personal” experience to most Jewish families somewhat like the India-Pakistan partition remains to those in our subcontinent who were destroyed or displaced due to it – people have moved on but the memories have remained and are not likely to be forgotten any time soon. Religious beliefs and values are one thing – every community passes them from generation to generation – tragic experiences of this nature (the holocaust) are in a league of their own (both in intensity and magnitude) – they would superimpose themselves on TOP of whatever the original religious framework would be – an “intellectual” discussion is in many ways futile because of the very “personal” nature of the ordeal. (Note: for those who have not already done so, NHK’s article on this site is probably a good place to start to learn about Jewish history. Also, for those who live in the Washington, DC area or happen to visit there, please do make it a point to visit the Holocaust Memorial.)
It is also a fact of life that people who have to struggle to survive generally get better-trained to adapt to new realities, come up with more innovations (you see, they have little choice but to do so) and are able to forge ahead better – including in eventually making new discoveries. This is true of most immigrant populations, including Bangladeshis in India, Indians in U.S., and the Jewish expatriate populations world-wide.”
#170 Posted by khalid_ahmad on March 23, 2006 8:06:17 pm
Re:#160 SR
[This is unsual... hardly any defenders of the faith seen in this thread. ]
Why should it be unusual?
How can anyone defend the indefensible? How can you defend a faith whose cornerstones have been legitimized rape, child (first grader) marriage, oversexuality, suicide bombing, plunder, terrorism and disrespect for other faiths?
#171 Posted by Zeena on March 23, 2006 8:45:09 pm
#170& #168 by khalid_ahmad
My dear hindu Indian friend
Look at your Muslim ID. You are so very Hindu Indian hiding behind a Muslim ID(name). Well, that speaks for itself what kind of person you are.
Yes, you hate these bigots, lawless, indefensible,legitimized rapists, oversexuals, suicide bombers, plunderers, terrorists, disrespectful of other`s faiths , poor,idiot Muslims with evil ideology, yet, choose a Muslim name to be identified on chowk web site. Wonderful, bravo. I just love it. You are great.
khalid_ahmad jii
This is a pure muslim name that you have chosen for yourself to be identified . This shows your CREDIBILITY . Yes, sir/mam, you are bold and courageous to come up with a muslim id.
Yes, I told you earlier no need to shout out loud or scream , you are making too, much shrieks for those defenseless terrorists and their terrorist women, who are spreading their evil ideology. My advice for you is to change your ID back to your original self, at least you won`t be recognized as one of them. Otherwise people will suspect you the same and you`ll be killed senselessly. You being a precious and special Hindu don`t need useless death. Such deaths are only meant to be for Muslim terrorists.
My dear hindu Indian friend
Look at your Muslim ID. You are so very Hindu Indian hiding behind a Muslim ID(name). Well, that speaks for itself what kind of person you are.
Yes, you hate these bigots, lawless, indefensible,legitimized rapists, oversexuals, suicide bombers, plunderers, terrorists, disrespectful of other`s faiths , poor,idiot Muslims with evil ideology, yet, choose a Muslim name to be identified on chowk web site. Wonderful, bravo. I just love it. You are great.
khalid_ahmad jii
This is a pure muslim name that you have chosen for yourself to be identified . This shows your CREDIBILITY . Yes, sir/mam, you are bold and courageous to come up with a muslim id.
Yes, I told you earlier no need to shout out loud or scream , you are making too, much shrieks for those defenseless terrorists and their terrorist women, who are spreading their evil ideology. My advice for you is to change your ID back to your original self, at least you won`t be recognized as one of them. Otherwise people will suspect you the same and you`ll be killed senselessly. You being a precious and special Hindu don`t need useless death. Such deaths are only meant to be for Muslim terrorists.
#172 Posted by wiseguyin on March 23, 2006 9:33:03 pm
Re: # 171
Pyari Zena,
Let me remind you that you also have stolen your id from Zena, the warrior princess....
[...Such deaths are only meant to be for Muslim terrorists]
For a change I will agree with you. In fact, I would suggest that they all be decapitated in the
exact same way as required by the pieceful religion :)
Humanity has a chance then. Lets work together and defeat the Satanic verses.
- sunil
Pyari Zena,
Let me remind you that you also have stolen your id from Zena, the warrior princess....
[...Such deaths are only meant to be for Muslim terrorists]
For a change I will agree with you. In fact, I would suggest that they all be decapitated in the
exact same way as required by the pieceful religion :)
Humanity has a chance then. Lets work together and defeat the Satanic verses.
- sunil
#173 Posted by khalid_ahmad on March 23, 2006 9:35:09 pm
#171 Zeenaji, I prayed to Mush-e-ruff and I got my MIT (moderate-i-tubelightenment) degree. Don`t worry about my name or my country or my gender. I believe in Allah and I have realized my Allah more than any paki retard heard farting on chowk. I know more Koran suras and Sunnah hadiths than most muzzien Fakiers issuing fartwas on chowk.
[You are so very Hindu Indian hiding behind a Muslim ID(name).]
Well on the other hand I doubt you are a muslim woman, and you are a paki male hiding under the burqa a female ID. They would never let any woman out of the piles & pistula clinic. So go back to looking for whatever is blocking those dark stinkholes of the patients. But if you are in the mood and say ``please``, I can start quoting some juicy jenabi stuff from Bukhari or Malik prescribed by the cave educated 7th century pedophile rapist himself.
[You are so very Hindu Indian hiding behind a Muslim ID(name).]
Well on the other hand I doubt you are a muslim woman, and you are a paki male hiding under the burqa a female ID. They would never let any woman out of the piles & pistula clinic. So go back to looking for whatever is blocking those dark stinkholes of the patients. But if you are in the mood and say ``please``, I can start quoting some juicy jenabi stuff from Bukhari or Malik prescribed by the cave educated 7th century pedophile rapist himself.
#174 Posted by khalid_ahmad on March 23, 2006 9:45:10 pm
In a brilliant new white paper on public diplomacy, Michael Waller, the Walter and Leonore Annenberg chair in International Communication at The Institute of World Politics, makes a strong case for America`s employing a new powerful weapon against the terrorists: ridicule.
``Ridicule raises morale at home. Ridicule strips the enemy/adversary of his mystique and prestige. Ridicule erodes the enemy`s claim to justice. Ridicule eliminates the enemy`s image of invincibility. Directed properly at an enemy, ridicule can be a fate worse than death,`` writes Waller.
History teaches that ridicule weakens the moral and political capital of our enemies. The war on terror has military, political and economic dimensions. But it also has a critical psychological component. The terrorists are not 10 feet tall. We should engage in a psychological war that brings these thugs down to size.
Watch out for thy honor and dicknitty ye pakis.
#175 Posted by Zeena on March 23, 2006 9:55:52 pm
#165 by tahmed32 on March 23, 2006 6:36pm PT
{{{{Zeena #164 Are you feeling OK?}}
tahmed jii
Yes, I am feeling great. Thanks to the writer of this article. This article has reminded me of my AUQAAT(worthlessness) as a muslim. And, greatness of Jewish supermacy.
I am that much excited that I have started feeling sick to my stomach. haaahaaha
Long live jews.
{{{{Zeena #164 Are you feeling OK?}}
tahmed jii
Yes, I am feeling great. Thanks to the writer of this article. This article has reminded me of my AUQAAT(worthlessness) as a muslim. And, greatness of Jewish supermacy.
I am that much excited that I have started feeling sick to my stomach. haaahaaha
Long live jews.
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