Veeresh Malik April 24, 2006
#23 Posted by harimau on April 30, 2006 8:54:16 pm
Ref Salim_Chauhan #22
[Thanks, but when one does it around a pillar, it`s got to have ``khamba`` in it - thus circumkhambambulate. :) ]
I am totally discombobulated ;)
[Thanks, but when one does it around a pillar, it`s got to have ``khamba`` in it - thus circumkhambambulate. :) ]
I am totally discombobulated ;)
#22 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on April 30, 2006 4:23:25 pm
#20, Harimau {``You mean circumambulate, maybe?``}
Harry,
Thanks, but when one does it around a pillar, it`s got to have ``khamba`` in it - thus circumkhambambulate. :)
Harry,
Thanks, but when one does it around a pillar, it`s got to have ``khamba`` in it - thus circumkhambambulate. :)
#21 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on April 30, 2006 4:23:10 pm
#20, Harimau {``You mean circumambulate, maybe?``}
Harry,
Thanks, but when one does it around a pillar, it`s got to have ``khamba`` in it - thus circumkhambambulate. :)
Harry,
Thanks, but when one does it around a pillar, it`s got to have ``khamba`` in it - thus circumkhambambulate. :)
#20 Posted by harimau on April 29, 2006 8:26:54 pm
Ref Salim_Chauhan #18
[#16, Never mind correctng me. I just realized that the correct word is circumkhambambulate. :) ]
You mean circumambulate, maybe?
[#16, Never mind correctng me. I just realized that the correct word is circumkhambambulate. :) ]
You mean circumambulate, maybe?
#19 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on April 29, 2006 12:18:38 pm
#16, Never mind correctng me. I just realized that the correct word is circumkhambambulate. :)
#18 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on April 29, 2006 12:18:24 pm
#16, Never mind correctng me. I just realized that the correct word is circumkhambambulate. :)
#16 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on April 28, 2006 9:50:24 am
#15, Veeresh {``IMHO, the Hajj Committee of India is by definition a Public Authority. It can not under any Law of India stop me from applying, that`s a simple fact of life I enjoy by virtue of being an Indian citizen. But over the years, this became accepted as a sort of given.
I put this query up to some friends of mine who are Muslim scholars, and they agree too, that I can not be stopped from applying to the Hajj Committee of India. ``}
Veeresh,
Please do apply. It will be interesting to see the results. Now, if by some miracle, the Saudis give you a visa, are you going to go ahead and circumcize the cube? :)
I put this query up to some friends of mine who are Muslim scholars, and they agree too, that I can not be stopped from applying to the Hajj Committee of India. ``}
Veeresh,
Please do apply. It will be interesting to see the results. Now, if by some miracle, the Saudis give you a visa, are you going to go ahead and circumcize the cube? :)
#15 Posted by veeresh on April 27, 2006 9:10:30 pm
nb/14: ```` . . . that only Muslims may be allowed by the Saudis to enter Mecca, but that maybe the Indian government should not participate in anything so exclusionary, and should be open to all comers-then the Saudis can throw out non-Muslims, because that is what would happen . . . ````
Exactly.
IMHO, the Hajj Committee of India is by definition a Public Authority. It can not under any Law of India stop me from applying, that`s a simple fact of life I enjoy by virtue of being an Indian citizen. But over the years, this became accepted as a sort of given.
I put this query up to some friends of mine who are Muslim scholars, and they agree too, that I can not be stopped from applying to the Hajj Committee of India.
Shall keep all of you posted on what sort of a response I get. Interim, I`ve also placed one with the Office of the President of India, requesting them to clarify if he is a ``Citizen of India`` or as per the MEA`s response, if he is a ``Muslim Citizen of India``.
Salim Chauhan/13 That`s a valid point, is the Indian government following the Pakistani Government`s definition of ``Muslim``?
The rest - no, I am not ``attacking`` Muslims or anybody else.
Exactly.
IMHO, the Hajj Committee of India is by definition a Public Authority. It can not under any Law of India stop me from applying, that`s a simple fact of life I enjoy by virtue of being an Indian citizen. But over the years, this became accepted as a sort of given.
I put this query up to some friends of mine who are Muslim scholars, and they agree too, that I can not be stopped from applying to the Hajj Committee of India.
Shall keep all of you posted on what sort of a response I get. Interim, I`ve also placed one with the Office of the President of India, requesting them to clarify if he is a ``Citizen of India`` or as per the MEA`s response, if he is a ``Muslim Citizen of India``.
Salim Chauhan/13 That`s a valid point, is the Indian government following the Pakistani Government`s definition of ``Muslim``?
The rest - no, I am not ``attacking`` Muslims or anybody else.
#14 Posted by nb on April 27, 2006 6:54:51 pm
Re: # 12
no, my brand new computer was playing up-would appreicate it if editors could take off two of those!
I have since thought about it, and I see his point-that only Muslims may be allowed by the Saudis to enter Mecca, but that maybe the Indian government should not participate in anything so exclusionary, and should be open to all comers-then the Saudis can throw out non-Muslims, because that is what would happen.
no, my brand new computer was playing up-would appreicate it if editors could take off two of those!
I have since thought about it, and I see his point-that only Muslims may be allowed by the Saudis to enter Mecca, but that maybe the Indian government should not participate in anything so exclusionary, and should be open to all comers-then the Saudis can throw out non-Muslims, because that is what would happen.
#13 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on April 27, 2006 12:06:23 pm
Veeresh Malik, {``Persons who are crippled, handicapped, lunatic or otherwise physically incapacitated or suffering from amputation of legs.``}
Veeresh,
LOL - I am laughing at the above exclusion. I object to ``lunatics`` being exclused. In fact, you got to be nuts to attempt to do what some of these yaatris do. :)
Good job,
I applaud your proactive manner in which you have demanded a definition of ``Muslim`` citizen of India. As we all know, only the Government of Pakistan is divinely-ordained to decide who is a Muslim and who is not - in addition to deciding who is a Paki and who is not. Thank you for your diligence. Don`t forget to come to Karachi and write about our great city.
Veeresh,
LOL - I am laughing at the above exclusion. I object to ``lunatics`` being exclused. In fact, you got to be nuts to attempt to do what some of these yaatris do. :)
Good job,
I applaud your proactive manner in which you have demanded a definition of ``Muslim`` citizen of India. As we all know, only the Government of Pakistan is divinely-ordained to decide who is a Muslim and who is not - in addition to deciding who is a Paki and who is not. Thank you for your diligence. Don`t forget to come to Karachi and write about our great city.
#12 Posted by Dash_Dot on April 27, 2006 2:11:41 am
#9,#10, #11 three times you repeat. I guess Malik baaboo doesnot know the meaning of ``no``
#8 Posted by bjkumar on April 25, 2006 10:17:59 am
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#7 Posted by bjkumar on April 25, 2006 9:58:17 am
Veeresh,
I think you are wasting your time. Everybody knows who a Muslim is - those who practice that faith or think they do. Everybody knows who an Indian is, too.
If your objective is to attack the Haj involvement of the secular government that is a separate issue and should be approached directly rather than in a weasel-like manner.
I personally have no problem if the Government of India helps out some indigent Indians accomplish what for many of them is once in a lifetime cherished dream!
Make no mistake about it.
Barring nutcases here and there, mostly to be found shouting from minarets, Indians have the best Muslims in the world!
The best Sikhs AND the best Muslims!
And comparing with the overseas lot - perhaps even the best Hindus!
What a lucky country!
#6 Posted by khamkhwa. on April 24, 2006 8:59:49 pm
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#5 Posted by veeresh on April 24, 2006 8:17:52 pm
This is not about Hindus performing Hajj. This is about the relationship of Indians with a Public Authority called the Ministry of External Affairs.
This is about finding out, using the RTI Act-2005, which is open to any Indian citizen anywhere:-
a) The situation for Indian citizens to apply for a Hajj under the laws of the equal for all secular country of India.
b) Definition of ``Muslim Citizen of India``, for example, and inequalities therein if any.
c) This is not about the Laws of Saudi Arabia.
This is about finding out, using the RTI Act-2005, which is open to any Indian citizen anywhere:-
a) The situation for Indian citizens to apply for a Hajj under the laws of the equal for all secular country of India.
b) Definition of ``Muslim Citizen of India``, for example, and inequalities therein if any.
c) This is not about the Laws of Saudi Arabia.
#4 Posted by harimau on April 24, 2006 5:55:44 pm
Ref khamkhwa. #1
[...what the hell is this?...are hindoos performing haj now...]
EX-Hindus...you know, folks like yourself.
[...what the hell is this?...are hindoos performing haj now...]
EX-Hindus...you know, folks like yourself.
#1 Posted by khamkhwa. on April 24, 2006 12:25:53 pm
...what the hell is this?...are hindoos performing haj now...
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