Modi’s Men and their Mean Machines

Re: # 89
[...Talking about the state machinery....that will be used by the ruling people to further their own agenda...democracy or no democracy!...]

Not really... ``state machinery`` works good in western countries - it can work in india too...

That`s the other part of the solution to this problem - rescue the ``state machinery`` from clutch of the vile politician... like their counterparts in US, the law enforcement agencies of india should be independent departments - no minister should have any direct control over them... the departments should have a multi-partisan legislative oversight boards. it will work wonders...

Hundreds of houses have been demolished in Delhi recently and in Chandigarh, they do it every other day....nothing happens.........touch some religious place, people are brought to streets by these politicians!! people need to grow up.

Talking about the state machinery....that will be used by the ruling people to further their own agenda...democracy or no democracy!

Re: # 62 FV
[...Filing a court case is a way out, but when it takes years for other serious issues to get a fair judgment or any judgment at all), do you think it would work here?...]

That`s the only thing that will ever work... yes - the courts are clogged - but we can create some special fast track courts for these kind of situations... The civil society can be roped in for this - pressures can be applied from all quarters - a civil movement can be started... there n number of ways we can have a civilized resolutions to any such communal disputes...

For that to work - muslims have to stop being emotional and violent for no reasons... for once - they should use their brains, not their religion-infested heart... They have to seek peaceful ways - when they do that, they will get a lot of help of the majority community who are sick this nonsense... muslims have to help us help them... muslims have to take the first step... this sh!t has gone for too long...

You, as an educated member of the community, should be working in that direction.... not shouting same old bullsh!t all the time... You should be working towards solutions for this - not trying fan the fire with more islamist stupidity..... Actually, never mind, why am I even asking you....

Re: # 86 DM
[....Why can`t they take a simple court action or a peaceful demonstration, especially since they know that the police is biased against them -and not just in Gujarat?...]

Exactly... Why do we always riot at the drop of a hat?... especially for muslim communities around the country - riot has become the default way of protest... at the drop of a hat - they fan out in murderous rampage like brain-dead lunatics... as if being a muslim gives them a license to create mayhem...

And inevitably - the reaction from police and majority community is swift and equally murderous. End result - more muslims end up dying and losing proerty then anybody else... and yet no lesson is ever learnt - next time something happens - the same routine starts all over again...

In the mean time - politicians make hay...islamists cry copius tears... commies write volumes of non-sense in their rags... life goes on - nobody learns a thing, no remedial meaure is ever taken.. the cycle repeats itself again and again and again...

I don`t want to inflame anybody - but I am going ask this: Why are indian muslims so stupid?...

Those who are trying to compare killings of Hindus in Kashmir and those of Muslims in Gujarat forget a basic difference: Hindus are killed in Kashmir despite the govt`s efforts to protect them; the general perception is that Muslims are killed in Gujarat mostly because the police does not want to protect them.

FV:

``Filing a court case is a way out, but when it takes years for other serious issues to get a fair judgment or any judgment at all), do you think it would work here?``

I agree with this only partially. It may take years to get any decision from the courts, but it is the easiest thing to get a court injunction to stop any action until the courts decide; this is indeed the main reason why the Chinese can build a highway in months while the Indian authorities are fighting various NGOs in the courts to get the permission to demolish even illegal structures. This also raises another issue; presuming as I do that the muncipal action was designed to induce a riot, why do/did Muslims fall for it? Why can`t they take a simple court action or a peaceful demonstration, especially since they know that the police is biased against them -and not just in Gujarat?

Talking against Pakistanis and Punjabis should not be cause of deleting anyone. But hate speech should be. If “punjoos” could be a cause of deletion then use of “Paki” should be too.

It has been shown that Salim can be handled with ease. Check out the other board he now claims that he is an Indian.
Why Aren’t Muslim Women Converting to Christianity?
#481 by Salim_Chauhan

``Consider me an Indian from now on. ``

Personal attacks on writers/authors should be a cause for banning or at least being filtered out.
Aghakhani`s are as muslims as any sunni can be. Why should anyone’s religion be a subject of discussion here?

abey gujjey, tu wapas aya?

abey gujjey, tu wapas aya?

Re: # 64
farzana..
you are neither a islamist nor a muslim..you are an aga khani...since your arrival you have encouraged articles that create hatred...and no indians and pakistanis were never in love with each other before your arrival but they didnt hate so much as well...

you have remained silent about kashmir massacre and diverting the attention by bringing in nepal and other countries whose representation on chowk is nil...

you have remained silent with salim chauhan spewing hate against pakistanis and punjabis on all articles and never deleted them for being irrelevent...

you have tried to hide your incometence by whining and twisting facts...

i expect that now that i have brought these charges, you will use the authority vested in you by either:

1. filtering my post, which you have done regularly
2. banning me for two days for not following chowk guidelines
3. ban me permanently

...so go ahead...

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....just a lot of venom spewed rants blaming all crimes against humanity on Modi and those who vote for him. Crying a bucket load of tears for one jihadi who was burnt alive, while maintaining a complete silence over 35 poor Kashmiri hindu villagers who were massacred by those lovely freedom fighters. Serves them right - after all the bloody hindus refusing to back the secular and noble and just cause of Kashmir freedom struggle...

........aur inse umeed bhi kya ki ja sakti hain.......

Re: # 77
> I tend to agree now with 14 points put forward by Jinnah. ....
One more guy has begun to see the light now !

Someone more famous then me said: ``Hindus and Muslims are two different nations``. My
only correction to this would be: ``Muslims and Non-Muslims are two different nations``.

These two species MUST reside separately... there is NOTHING in common between them.

The free world must stop being politically correct and start separating the two species. India
is doing her part - starting with Gujarat :)

Re: # 62
arjun...
you are welcome to your farzanas and salims chauhans...they are not pakistanis and will never be one...even if they get the green passport...fyi 20,000 palestinians also hold pakistani passport and that does not make them pakistani...

After successfully demoliting 4 temples suddenly Baroda Police and Baroda Municipality are being accused of not showing enough caution and preparing themselves inadequately. FV accuses the police commisoner of making political statement and not doing his job. FV should know that the demolition drive had started as per court order of removal of religious structure from APRIL 3rd and NOT MAY 1ST.
I think India needs completely different set of rules and law for Muslims not just Muslim personal law. Muslims should have their own constitution, their own courts, their own police, their own streets and their own demolition drive.
I tend to agree now with 14 points put forward by Jinnah.

FV posts couple of questions at the end of the article. Why police fired tear gas and eight round of ammunation. Its very easy to answer. Actually her second question answers her first question. Her second question is where did the crowd came from. Now when this is answered then probably we would have less riot and less killings. This question is very similar to how muslims gathered at godhra station on 27th Feb.

# 49
GT, we know that state cannot protect all indians. There are killings in state of kashmir and death in gujarat of many innocent people. We protest the hypocrisy of ilk of people like FV who cannot stop blaming Modi for any innocent muslim being killed without any proof and spreading rumors of hindu rastra while completely forgetting that innocent hindus are killed mercilessly in india.
People like FV and Teesta are nothing but psuedo secular and probably could be bigots.

# 51
jang, one needs to take indian media reports with pinch of salt. The most notorious would be of Modi saying about Newtons third law which he never uttered but Times of India decided to publish it and were made to apologize afterwards.

# 65
jang, Pro palestian stance for many of us hindus is because of the hardship faced by palestain. It is a occupied country and faces lot of troubles that are similar to the hardships faced by indian under british rule.

# 66
hasan, the idea of mass punishments makes you no different from israeli or the killers of godhra and gujarat riots. justice needs to be served and in timely fashion then only the rioters will stop.

#52 kedarnathji {``Salimbhai (since you also referred to me as Bhai):

... I will give you the benefit of doubt and apologize if I offended you by calling you an Islamic fundamentalism appeaser....
Here is the link to the Solapur riots ...
...Around a similar timeframe, Miss World was to happen in Nigeria and there was protests from Islamists against holding it. ``}

Kedarnathji Bhai,
Thank you for the link about the Solapur riots. I was not aware of the death and destruction there. As Mohar Bhai has pointed out, fanatics of all viewpoints use books, cartoons, statements, and even beauty contests as excuses to perform the ugliest acts including murder, arson, rape, and suicide bombings. Their mission is to cause as much havoc and destruction as possible so that normal life and order can break down and they can rule over what is left.

I don`t think that we need to cater to this anarchic segment of any society and their quick arrest, trial, conviction, and elimination is probably the best thing for the rest of society. No, my friend, I hope it`s obvious that I detest Islamic fundamentalism as much as I am against Hindutva types, Catholic Inquisitors, firebrand Zionist zealots, Sunni Wahabbi terrorists like Al-Kayda, LeT, Tally Ban, or born-again, thunder clapping evangelists led on by electronic ayatollahs of the Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell type. Thank you for your understanding.