Awaaz Dey KahaaN Hay

#159 by swarrier

Thanks for reminisces. Are these not the collective treasures of us all?

Insaaf kaa mandir
This had a similar effect on me. It is like Juma khutba by a learned maulana.

By the way, the movie Amar has a very good script & is quite a moving story. A bit very un-typical Indian movie & yet a great hit both as art and as business. Our misfortune because of our colonised mindset is that we look down upon our ``masses`` & think of ourselves somewhat superior to them. I`m glad that I discovered that it is I who is at the wrong end.

When was the last time you saw the word ``masses`` used for people & the word ``uneducated`` used so liberaly in the land of the colonisers & Imperialists for their own folk (where 60% cannot read!)

Echoboom, Zeemax DM et al
A long time ago when I was coming home after work (in Bombay) I was walking past a Muncipal school near my flat and on the street in front of the school was a large dustbin. An old man was collecting scraps from it and putting it in his sack. He was humming this tune when I walked past him. I still remember the scene, and while reading posts from another article on this site I thought I would put the song up here. Strangely enough it is composed by Naushad and it is from the film Ganga Jamuna. It is a touching little melody, simple enough but beautiful. Even though some of us become cynical as we grow older it is good for children to keep some ideals alive.

http://www.indianscreen.com/mp3/GungaJamuna_1962-Hemant&Co-InsaafKIDagarPe-Shakeel_Naushad.mp3

Re: # 157
Lovely song, The only film that Ram Ganguly did for Raj Kapoor I think.

While we are still here lets enjoy this:

The Lyrics are so beautifully tied to the situation ( Ive not seen movie but I can ``sense`` it). How the feelings of lov conveyed in an oblique way. The metaphors of moon, badal & lehr for face, hair, and emotions need closer listening. Kaheen kaa deepak kaheen kee baati, the `distance` between to lovers like the sun illuminating the moon.

aikh chaan kee ore

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#155 by dost-mittar

bohut khoob!

a little fix:

Umr upnee toa kaTi ishque-i buutaaN meiN, Momin
aakhree vaqt mein kya khaak musalmaaN hongay.

notice how the takhaluus MOMIN has embellished & added meaning to the shair.

and Iqbal said ( visiting Masjid-e Quartaba--his masterpiece poem in Urdu)

``Kafir-i Hindi hooN meiN, daikh mira zauque-O-Shauqe
Dil meiN Salaat-O durood, Lubb pey salaat-O-durood.``

and Jagan Nath Azad too was passionately humming this shair when he , in the footsteps of Iqbal, visited that Masjid--to pay homage to Iqbal. Iqbal, had given the Azan in that masjid where the last azaan was almost 700 years ago.

echoboom:

Umr saari tau katti ishq-e-buttaaN mein
Aakhiri umr mein kya khaak MusalmaaN hongay :)

....but for a Hindu, there is always the ``agla janam``. :)

#153 by dost-mittar

``achhee soorat bhhee kyaa buuree shai hai
jiss nay daali, buuri nazar daalee``

Ishquekaa toa naam yooN hee muft meiN bdnaam hai
husn khuud baitaab hai, jalvaa dikhhanay jay liyay.

subb jagaa Usee kay jalvay haiN, usee kee leela hai, aur niyatoaN kaa haal vohee jaanta hai.

bhaee aap hUm sey kaheeN behtar musalmaan haiN. Ubb aap oath naa laiN toa hUm kyaa kraiN.

echoboom#152:

Are you sure? I thought that Allah puts a lot of emphasis on niyat. And He knows even when you are visually violating someone.

Allah rewards even those who lusted in their hearts but just did not have the courage to go through with it.

So it is for NOT doing, rather than doing something.:)

W`Allah Alim bil Ghaib [Only Allah knows what is hidden (to man)]

Re: # 150

[Even better stuff lies in wait for me across the great divide.]

Do you mean 72 ``yonis`` there? What have you done to deserve them?

#147 by majumdar

As per Hindu belief a soul has to pass through 84 lakh yonis (or life forms) before he becomes a human

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#148 by dost-mittar
ohmigod! I thought 84 lakh yonis would bring moksha

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haHAHAH haaa....
I very very happy with the four yonis strongly prescribed for me;and yet I need no Moksha.

Even better stuff lies in wait for me across the great divide. Adressing them:
`` Voh vaqt miri jaan bohut dooor naheeN hai``

Re: # 144
Echoboom
If we do not preserve our folk music it is in danger of dying out. In our society folk music was handed down within families or within castes whose occupation amongst others was the creation of music. There are no patrons of this anymore. Every state and region has a wealth of folk music which should at least be recorded for posterity and of course to inspire your brown sahibs.

If not we will never have any record of this treasure. This music will stagnate and die if there is nobody to transform it into a living breathing changing thing.

Imagine , no baul singers in Bengal, no vadakkan paat in Kerala, no abhangs in Marathi, no qawwalis ... to pull out only a few regions.

It has already happened to our classical instruments. After Vinayak Vora I don`t know of any tar shehnai player of repute. Which new surbahar player is there on the horizon? How many rudra veena exponents are present today?

Incidentally speaking of folk music does anybody remember Rafi`s ``pipra ke patwaa sareekhe doley manwa`` composed by Ravi Shankar for the film Godaan?

To come back to Naushad there is a great Lata-Rafi duet in Shabab ``Man ki been matwari baaje``.

majumdar#147:

ohmigod! I thought 84 lakh yonis would bring moksha; now you tell me that this number merely brings one into human form. So, how many more does one have to go through to achieve moksha, presuming one does want moksha? (I`m not sure about myself!).

Re: 142/143

Vishnu`s touch while it pushed Mahabali into netherworld ( or pataal-lok of which he became the ruler) also made him one of the seven immortals. Some legends also say that Vishnu gave him the boon of being the Indra of the next cycle of the Universe.

Evolution does not seem to be incompatible with the Hindu scheme of things. As per Hindu belief a soul has to pass through 84 lakh yonis (or life forms) before he becomes a human.

Regards

I just found out the name ofthe leadgirl in Eeshwar:

Vijayashanti.

What an accomplished actress& dancer. I also learned that she got the best actress award for that movie 1989( Filmfare)

Listen to the number: Buj uthha ssansoan meiN--good music, very good lyrics. But to really appreciate it one has to watch the dance-song. I believe she is better than Vijantymala as a dancer.

ignore the previous post: this is the emended one.

Coming back to the Naushad/ Ghulam Muhammad riddle, can anyone elicit me any composition which was even a mediocre hit after Pakeeza?

I know for a fact that the Gunga Jumuna poorbi song, Nain lURr jaeeN was already a poorbi Qawwali, the tune of which too was probably adapted from an already existing ``earthy`` geet.

I am curious to know this because this mailaise of `brownie colonialism` where `paRRhay Likhays` have been robbing the ``red Indians`` of Indo-Pak has been running rampant. This extinction of folk-geniuses, a phenomena which I term as a ^devastation of cultural ecology^ needs to be addressed.