Awaaz Dey KahaaN Hay

mannyd:

I am heartbroken that none of you included my favourite, S.D.Burman, among your favourites. Incidentally, I think that his ``naache man mera magan dhig dhiga dheegi dheeggi`` is based on raag Pilu. But I am very poor at recognizing raagas, despite listening to and enjoying classical music and going to classical concers for forty years.

Re: # 100
Mannyd
I have no classical or any musical training. Just learnt to plonk the guitar on my own and listened to Sangeet Sarita. I used Mel Bay`s guitar primer to learn with an old guitar I had borrowed. Anybody can appreciate good music. But you have to listen not just hear.

You asked about the song Chandan ka palna previously. That is in Pilu. So is ``Dheere se aaja re ankiyan me , nindiya ..`` from Albela. There is a lot more. Now how to go about recognising it is difficult. I used to try to pick the notes on the guitar. Good musicians can make it out at once. I`m just a hack.

I have that recording of Madan Mohan singing. It`s there in one of the compilations of MM that I have. The reason why I like MM, Salil-da and Sajjad is because most of their songs were never predictable. There was that degree of complexity that left you stunned, made you think. You could never say, `` yeah that is the next note.`` I mean look at songs like `` Aap ki nazaron ne samjha``, `` O sajna barkha bahaar``, `` Dil me samaa gaye sajan``. Great stuff.

I like Roshan a lot. One of my favourite qawwalis ``Nigahen milaane ko ji chahata hain``, Rafi`s ``Man re to kahe na ..`` in Chitralekha.

Kaurasach #99: LOL.. Who is your favorite composer in Punjabi? I rememebr Sardool singh Kawatra, who lived in the Bay area for a while. I do not know if he is still alive. I think he composed music for lot of Punjabi hit movies and the tune for Lata`s duet with shaminder Singh (?); `Charkhe diyan Ghooka ne`.

Swarrier: My three choices are Roshan, Naushad and Shankar jaiKishan. I like Madan Mohan too. have you heard him sing `Naina barse rim jhim, rim jhim`? Apparently Lata was too sick that day and Sadhna lip synched to MM`s singing, later to be replaced by Lata`s song.

Banjaara: I hope you can explain the terms in different jubilies,as asked by HP earlier. I think it was determined by the number of weeks, a movie ran in a particular theatre.
DM: Your memory is still in a lot better shape than mine. Thanks for sharing it.

Swarrier, DM, Echo or Banjaara: What is the difference between a Rag and Raagini? In the following list, song number 2 is my all time favorite. Do you have to have classical music training for years at the feet of a Guru to come up with such a list? What would be another example of PIlu by Nuahsad or anyone else in movie music and how would I go about identifying it?

1. Jo maiN jaanti bisrat hai saiyyaN in Maand (Shabab.)
2. More sayyaNji utreNge paar ho in Pilu (Uran Khatola.)
3. Jaane waale se mulaaqaat na hone paayi in Yaman (Amar.)
4. Tere pyaar meiN dildaar in Bihaag (Mere Mahboob.)
5. Suhaani raat dhal chuki in PahaRi (Dulari.)
6. Meri kahani bhoolne walay tera jahaN aabad rahe in Tilang (Deedaar.)
7. O duniya ke Rakhwalay, sun dard bhare mere naalay in Darbari (Baiju Bawra.)

Thanks in advance.

Listen to PUNJABI songs and folk lyrics/music......I never understand this paan laden fluffy farts of Urdu shaiyari..........

Echoboom
Bit of trivia. A R Rahman`s father K. Shekhar was a music director in Malayalam films too. He was an assistant to Salil Chowdhury and Devarajan.

Bongdongs #96,
Thank you for sharing this interesting article. This banding together of people by linguistic groups came into fashion during the 1920s and 1930s when the Nazis were beating the drums of Aryan supremacy. The Turks started preaching Pan-Turanism and even tried to brew some rebellions in Central Asia against the Russians. All I know is that quite a few turks are named Atilla, Cengiz, Timur - to show their association with Hungarians (Magryars), Mongols, and Tatars. I have noticed that there is a city named Turku in Finland. I wonder....

Salim,

A turkish collegue of mine was talking about the ``Ural Altaic`` family a few months ago, so I did some research and found there is quite a bit of controversy surrounding it. A linguist friend of mine feels its baloney, but its obviously something lot of Turks believe in.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ural-Altaic_languages

#92, Swarrier,
Yes, Indian Bollywood music has always been popular with Turks. Also, I noted that many Turks can sing ``Jeeway, Jeeway, Jeeway Pakistan`` with great enthusiasm and fun. The Kurds, especially, enjoy Urdu because their own language is akin to Farsi and very different from Turkish - an Ural Altaic language.

Re: # 93

Ah, you must be talking about Ashwini Nachappa and yes they made a film on her. She was a sprinter, came from the Coorg area of South India. Had a sister who was an athlete too, Pushpa. She is quite active in Bangalore with various sports works for children.
No I have not seen the film or heard the music, unfortunately. I have not seen Eeshwar either . I believe the female lead was Vijayashanti.

#87 by swarrier

Thanks.

Aswani name of the movie. story about a girl who surmounts a lot of odds to become a champion, olympic, runner. Perhaps based on a true story.

Seems like this also is hindi version of original Tamil/Malyalam.

O what a breadth of fresh air!

I liked one song in Eishwar. Oh the girl opposite Anil Kapoor, a joy to behold & an exhilirating experience watch her finely choreographed dance.

South-India! you are eeman-shikan; I`ve to watch out--or maybe watch you more and put my eeman to test for more rewards.

This is for our resident Turkish expert Salim Chauhan

In 1989 I heard a Turkish group who called themselves ``The Mustafa 3`` sing ``Awara Hoon`` at Club Passim in Cambridge, Massachusetts. How`s that for a meeting of continents?

Salim_Chauhan:90
ooper vali manzil: The failed-state Board.

Echoboom #72, {``Salim_Chauhan:
Someone wants you in ooper vali manzil: 4th mala from top, one above this one.
please repatriate yourself back to Pakistan. We need you.
See you there!``}

Echo Sahib,
Please explain to this dense nacheez how I can help my beloved Pakistan? Also, I did not understand the upper story, 4th floor from top, above this one. Are you talking about ``Market Street`` on Chowk?

Thanks for your invitation to return to Pakistan, but as you can see from the response I get to my views on Chowk from many Pakistani ``brethren,`` my short life would be easily snuffed out. Perhaps it is wiser (and safer) and certainly more productive to set Pakistan`s moral compass from a distance. Your thoughts?

A musical Titan has passed away...

Noor Jehan gained wide fame through ``Anmol GhaRi``

so the trio of Noor Jehan, Lata & Rafi owed a great

deal to Naushad (while not forgetting the contribution of

Master Ghulam Haidar here).

Thanks Banjaara for doing justice to a legend.

PS: Which school did you go to in E.Pak?

Ras