Javaid Zeerak May 7, 2006
#319 Posted by bjkumar on June 13, 2006 2:29:31 pm
#318 Yasser
I hope Pakistan recovers from its current travails. I really do.
However, your perception is highly distorted. Most outsiders think of Pakistan as the place where Daniel Perl got slaughtered like a goat, where the ISI is deeply involved in controlling everything and hob-nobbing with jihadis and the smuggler goons, where the fundos control the streets, where the judiciary has taken an oath to kow-tow to the military, and where the average joe is just so tired of all the snake-oil salesmen over the six decades that he/she is simply too fed up to lift a finger to change the status quo. It is the country which has the audacity to send in moronic hijackers and bombers to bomb elected bodies but lacks the courage to accept its own dead soldiers as its own – who, perhaps noble at heart, loose their lives fighting for a false cause!
Feel free to correct me if I am wrong on any of the above.
Shame on you for covering up the glaring monstrosities!
And no matter how much you wish - you can not pin any of that failure on the Mahatma! The logical place to put the blame is the charlatan who got you started along that wrong road to begin with!
The road of brute power! Absolute power corrupts absolutely - and brute power brutalizes a whole country!
#318 Posted by MantoLives on June 13, 2006 4:51:12 am
Whatever grade you wish to give Pakistan through media manipulation.. every Indian who visits Pakistan knows full well that Pakistan, on the ground, is much better than India in every possible way. It is this realisation that must really bite you. So go ahead keep fooling people... one myth is being deconstructed... the other one will not last either.
As for your ``statements`` ... they are hardly worth answering... I am afraid I can`t go on answering every piece of crap you think is gem and worth uttering.
#317 Posted by bjkumar on June 10, 2006 5:44:34 pm
Dear Yasser, need I remind you that this article is about Pakistan and its poor performance!
And that country’s failing grade in all areas – an “F” to be exact!
Not to mention the lousy treatment its citizens get accorded all over the world – including inside its own geographical boundaries.
I also noticed how completely you avoided answering any of the statements in #315.
Don’t tell me that the two of you (you and your beautiful begum) have decided to disappoint Congressman Towns!
Don’t be stingy now!
Come through with your money where your mouth is!
Don’t pull a Mushy on everybody, please! Or an H2!
#316 Posted by MantoLives on June 9, 2006 10:20:33 pm
Looks like it burnt your ass... the work done on the article was by an Indian who goes by the name of Rama`s Arrow and has been compiling entries on Indian Independence.
As for Gandhi... the world is beginning to see the facts and it burns you up. It is understandable... and you can always use burnol mian.
#315 Posted by bjkumar on June 9, 2006 3:28:02 am
Yasser dear, I am well aware of the hard work being put in by Pakistani chowkies on Wikipedia.
First they create stuff there - then they use that as ``reference``.
Same with Eddie Towns (Did you send in your campaign contribution yet? Your beautiful wife (how the heck did you ever fool her into marrying you?) has been bragging about rolling in money on Shandana`s board - between the two of you, you should come up with perhaps $4k. Ye to Pakistani shaan ki baat hai!! Paisa nikaalo!)
But Jinnah still stinks - because of what he did.
And the khaki still rules your land. The mullahs still rant and rave. The educated ones - even those who know better in their heart - they still cower. Pakistanis the world over are still treated lousier than canines and are trying to pass themselves off as Indians on every opportunity they can get away with.
You still continue to ``seek`` the religion which will let you live in peace and dignity - which will let the Jerries do the same.
The grade is still ``F``! Because the mindset is a non-learning mindset - a closed mindset.
``F`` is that failing grade.
#314 Posted by MantoLives on June 9, 2006 1:35:42 am
Cry and whine all you want.... bj...
But the world is learning the truth about the dishonest lawyer that Gandhi was- the racist, casteist, misogynist bigot .. who believed in caste system and Gandhiji- the Mahatma who believed in Indo-germanic superiority ...
And btw... Wikipedia chose to feature Jinnah on their main page 2 days ago... so the dust is settling and the truth is becoming clearer...
But the world is learning the truth about the dishonest lawyer that Gandhi was- the racist, casteist, misogynist bigot .. who believed in caste system and Gandhiji- the Mahatma who believed in Indo-germanic superiority ...
And btw... Wikipedia chose to feature Jinnah on their main page 2 days ago... so the dust is settling and the truth is becoming clearer...
#313 Posted by bjkumar on June 7, 2006 12:02:52 pm
Dear Yasser, you KNOW who is crying and whining at this site - your countrymen! Now go and look at your interactor page and go through your wish list - the things that you yearn for - yup, the Indians already got them!
And the Pakistanis would have had the same - except for the moron Jinnah!
Who was too ``smart`` a lawyer to rise above his narrow prejudiced mindset!
So now you got green!
In its khaki manifestation, of course!
#312 Posted by MantoLives on June 6, 2006 1:12:16 am
Cry and whine baby... but Pakistan, despite its problems, is much better than caste ridden god obsessed Hindu fascist society of India... that is the direct result of Gandhi and Gandhiism.
#311 Posted by bjkumar on June 2, 2006 2:41:58 pm
Jinnah was the original troublemaker - and directly responsible for Pakistan`s current state of failure and the cesspool that it finds itself in.
People like Yasser should feel free to enjoy their environment - they fully deserve it!
#310 Posted by bjkumar on June 2, 2006 2:38:17 pm
The future of Pakistan can only recover from the self inflicted wounds of Jinnah`s curse if the people of that failing country pull that demagogue and hang him from the nearest tree!
Like Hamidm`s dad said elsewhere...
``Are bewakoofon, aaj tum sub jo kuchh bhee ho, usee kee wajah se ho!``
#309 Posted by MantoLives on May 31, 2006 7:41:09 am
Nope... wrong again dude.
Pakistan was against .. ``I am a Hindu first and therefore a true Indian`` mentality epitomised by you and Gandhiji and the latter day Hindutvists.
Pakistan was against .. ``I am a Hindu first and therefore a true Indian`` mentality epitomised by you and Gandhiji and the latter day Hindutvists.
#308 Posted by bjkumar on May 27, 2006 5:34:28 am
#307 Yasser
[…one can only praise the lord that he created a distinction between you and me....]
Yup, that is what Pakistan was and has always been all about!
A celebration of differences!
First, it was ``us Muslims`` versus ``you Hindus``!
Then it was ``us Muslims`` versus ``you Bengalis``!
Then it was ``us Muslims`` versus ``you Ahmedis``!
Who knows, perhaps coming down the line….
``us Muslims`` versus ``you Balochis``!
``us Muslims`` versus ``you Sindhis``!
``us Muslims`` versus ``you Shias``!
What a celebration! And what a party! Too bad the ``party-goers`` keep leaving - and those who remain - they keep throwing up - too much drinking of that green booze perhaps!
Be careful of the hang-over!
#307 Posted by MantoLives on May 22, 2006 3:22:32 am
Majumdar...
I am sure India can be that clean... however I am quoting an Indian... I`ve never been to India, so I don`t know what to say about it.
BJkumar,
From your writing one can deduce that you either mentally insane or suffer from some sort of narcissistic disorder. Your ``claims`` were all answered. But - as others have said here- you are beyond help.
While I don`t know about Hindu- Muslim distinction (I don`t ascribe to ``I am a Hindu first and therefore a true Indian`` policy of Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi) ...one can only praise the lord that he created a distinction between you and me....
#306 Posted by majumdar on May 22, 2006 1:56:10 am
Manto mian,
(To most reasonable people who visit Pakistan... it is radically different from the false perception created by billions of dollars pumped into think tanks and media by Indian lobbies .... )
Aapke muh mein ghee shakkar. I hope one day Indians are rich enough to afford spending billions of dollars into think tanks.
(India can never be this efficient or clean. )
Strangely enough at times it can, the Delhi Metro for example. For some inexplicable reason it is spotlessly clean, Dilliwalas do not eat on it, spit on it, deface it or damage it and to top it all refrain from teasing ladies- behaviour which is otherwise completely alien to Indians.
Regards
(To most reasonable people who visit Pakistan... it is radically different from the false perception created by billions of dollars pumped into think tanks and media by Indian lobbies .... )
Aapke muh mein ghee shakkar. I hope one day Indians are rich enough to afford spending billions of dollars into think tanks.
(India can never be this efficient or clean. )
Strangely enough at times it can, the Delhi Metro for example. For some inexplicable reason it is spotlessly clean, Dilliwalas do not eat on it, spit on it, deface it or damage it and to top it all refrain from teasing ladies- behaviour which is otherwise completely alien to Indians.
Regards
#305 Posted by bjkumar on May 21, 2006 9:19:43 pm
#304 Yasser
What`s the matter, Yasser baby, the dose of reality finally proves too much for you?!!
In my #303, I simply put some very obvious facts related to the failing Pakistan state and asked you to dispute them - you could not do it to a single one - and then you crack and ask the questioner to ``shove it``!
Poor baby!
It is quite funny that you claim those hard facts were somehow created by an Indian propaganda machine by spending a billion dolllars!
It is so funny that I will give you even a smiley!
Here you go, baby! :)
And here is another: :)
Yasser, of the million (copy & paste) words!!! Bumps into the granite wall of hard reality and starts bawling!
By the way, since you brought up the name of this Patel guy from mid-day (who has actually moved to another publication last year!) let me say this.
I have no doubt that when individuals visit other countries on goodwill missions - they are by and large treated well and come back with good reports on what they have seen. Go ask Pervez the Hood-brother, for example - or our delicious friend Juicy Siddiqui!
There is a reason such missions are called GOODWILL missions!
If such reports came out less than rosy, the trip would be a waste - so both sides try to accommodate each other and make it a success.
Also, if the person taking such trip were to give a lousy trip report, guess who looks most foolish?
Yup, it`s the one who took the trip to begin with!!!
The bottomline is hard reality is hard reality!
And also, the truth is that I like Pakistanis people enough that I would like them to succeed. So I have no intention of mincing words and telling them the truth that individuals like you don`t like to face.
It does not matter to me what chowk people think of trivial interactors like me, but people should remember that your only true friends are the ones who have the courage to tell you in no uncertain terms when you have screwed up and are not dealing with your problem!
So, I tell them,
Dear Pakistani people - you have screwed up for sixty years and you are still not dealing with your original problem of making a distinction between a Muslim and others!
#304 Posted by MantoLives on May 21, 2006 8:31:56 am
bjkumar,
You can take your perception and shove it. The world believes a lot of things... and temporary perceptions are hardly reality. I give you this .. that you and your Hindu fascist country have a good thing going for now whereby you have blinded the people with dust...
To most reasonable people who visit Pakistan... it is radically different from the false perception created by billions of dollars pumped into think tanks and media by Indian lobbies ....
Here is what Aakar Patel - the Chief Editor of ``Midday`` had to say when he visited Pakistan:
``In the murky skies over Islamabad on Day 4, however, this clarity was missing. Who was the ‘we’ that beat ‘them’?
For me, Pakistan was a foreign country.
Visitors to Pakistan will be shocked at how they have kept their cities and their airports. They are truly world class. India can never be this efficient or clean.
Lahore is paradise. It has huge gardens splashed through the middle of its roads. An enormous canal glides through the middle of a thoroughfare.
Indians will also be amazed with how much at ease the Lahauri is with his culture and how little this culture has to do with religion.
To me that culture is alien because it is Punjabi, not because it is Muslim.
To me, the groups of Sardars walking again in the streets of Lahore’s old city with the kirpans by their side and the shopkeepers at their elbow, seemed to belong there. They were Lahauris.
But for all of Pakistan’s foreign-ness, it had everything that we pride India for. It was pluralist, it was joyous, it was tolerant. In the colourful Indian crowds, clapping, shouting, shopping, Pakistans also discovered something perhaps foreign to themselves and perhaps something of themselves.
...
You can take your perception and shove it. The world believes a lot of things... and temporary perceptions are hardly reality. I give you this .. that you and your Hindu fascist country have a good thing going for now whereby you have blinded the people with dust...
To most reasonable people who visit Pakistan... it is radically different from the false perception created by billions of dollars pumped into think tanks and media by Indian lobbies ....
Here is what Aakar Patel - the Chief Editor of ``Midday`` had to say when he visited Pakistan:
``In the murky skies over Islamabad on Day 4, however, this clarity was missing. Who was the ‘we’ that beat ‘them’?
For me, Pakistan was a foreign country.
Visitors to Pakistan will be shocked at how they have kept their cities and their airports. They are truly world class. India can never be this efficient or clean.
Lahore is paradise. It has huge gardens splashed through the middle of its roads. An enormous canal glides through the middle of a thoroughfare.
Indians will also be amazed with how much at ease the Lahauri is with his culture and how little this culture has to do with religion.
To me that culture is alien because it is Punjabi, not because it is Muslim.
To me, the groups of Sardars walking again in the streets of Lahore’s old city with the kirpans by their side and the shopkeepers at their elbow, seemed to belong there. They were Lahauris.
But for all of Pakistan’s foreign-ness, it had everything that we pride India for. It was pluralist, it was joyous, it was tolerant. In the colourful Indian crowds, clapping, shouting, shopping, Pakistans also discovered something perhaps foreign to themselves and perhaps something of themselves.
...
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