Khalid Sohail May 18, 2006
#36 Posted by drsohail on May 20, 2006 9:12:58 am
Re: # 32
Dear Zeena...thank you for clarification. Now I have a better understanding about your
background and your passion. If you would like to know my views about schizophrenia
you can go to my website www.drsohail.com, then go to Mental Health Section and you will
find my book on Schizophrenia. For chowk readers I have been writing a few articles of
general interest about human relationships and psychology. I am sure interactions with you
and others will inspire me to write more. Sorry if I offended you. I try my best to be
respectful even when I disagree as I believe we all have the democratic right to be wrong.
After all we are all human and we are learning from each other and growing personally
and philosophically. Thanks for your meaningful fedback.
sincerely sohail
Dear Zeena...thank you for clarification. Now I have a better understanding about your
background and your passion. If you would like to know my views about schizophrenia
you can go to my website www.drsohail.com, then go to Mental Health Section and you will
find my book on Schizophrenia. For chowk readers I have been writing a few articles of
general interest about human relationships and psychology. I am sure interactions with you
and others will inspire me to write more. Sorry if I offended you. I try my best to be
respectful even when I disagree as I believe we all have the democratic right to be wrong.
After all we are all human and we are learning from each other and growing personally
and philosophically. Thanks for your meaningful fedback.
sincerely sohail
#35 Posted by AikThought on May 20, 2006 4:01:26 am
Dear Khalid
As before, you article is an excellent read. An honest desire of helping people with problems is obvious. Keep up the good work. I am sure that many readers are being educated even if they do not interact with you.
Just wondered, what you think of;
i. love
ii. monogamy
iii. your desire to help others
Loving regards
AikThought
As before, you article is an excellent read. An honest desire of helping people with problems is obvious. Keep up the good work. I am sure that many readers are being educated even if they do not interact with you.
Just wondered, what you think of;
i. love
ii. monogamy
iii. your desire to help others
Loving regards
AikThought
#34 Posted by Zeena on May 19, 2006 10:37:05 pm
Sorry for typo in post # 32
I stopped studying psychiatry. (stopped is missing). Thanks
I stopped studying psychiatry. (stopped is missing). Thanks
#33 Posted by Zeena on May 19, 2006 10:36:35 pm
Sorry for typo in post # 32
I stopped studying psychiatry. (stopped is missing). Thanks
I stopped studying psychiatry. (stopped is missing). Thanks
#32 Posted by Zeena on May 19, 2006 10:35:02 pm
RE:-#22
Dear Dr. Sohail sahib jii
Awwww, you misunderstood me. God, I didn`t mean to offend you. If I did , please forgive me. I apologize to you for any kind of offence that I caused.
Actually, I did my training in Psychiatry and did research in the past. I wanted to be a world famous psychiatrist. Dr. Mubashar was my mentor and even now, he is.
Then, all of a sudden I studying psychiatry, stopped my training and said bye bye to Dr.Mubashar (There was a big personal reason for that).
And then I never got back again. Since you started very interesting topics about psychiatry, I got my lost interest back in psychiatry and tried to discuss with you my own research..................I did not mean to prove anything to you....
I just got lilttle excited and started acting like I am in a Psych class with Dr.Mubashar( I always used to giv ehim very tough time). He used to love me for that. I always used to challenge his mind with tough questions and my research.......
Anyway, When I use difficult psych terminology, it is not meant for others. It is meant for your intellectual level. I hope you will understand .
I love your articles. Please, continue with different topics.
PS:- My suggestion for you for next topic is...Write something on Schizophrenia... I will prepare my research and will discuss with you...
Oh, Boy, that will be a fun..............
Sincerely
Zeena
Dear Dr. Sohail sahib jii
Awwww, you misunderstood me. God, I didn`t mean to offend you. If I did , please forgive me. I apologize to you for any kind of offence that I caused.
Actually, I did my training in Psychiatry and did research in the past. I wanted to be a world famous psychiatrist. Dr. Mubashar was my mentor and even now, he is.
Then, all of a sudden I studying psychiatry, stopped my training and said bye bye to Dr.Mubashar (There was a big personal reason for that).
And then I never got back again. Since you started very interesting topics about psychiatry, I got my lost interest back in psychiatry and tried to discuss with you my own research..................I did not mean to prove anything to you....
I just got lilttle excited and started acting like I am in a Psych class with Dr.Mubashar( I always used to giv ehim very tough time). He used to love me for that. I always used to challenge his mind with tough questions and my research.......
Anyway, When I use difficult psych terminology, it is not meant for others. It is meant for your intellectual level. I hope you will understand .
I love your articles. Please, continue with different topics.
PS:- My suggestion for you for next topic is...Write something on Schizophrenia... I will prepare my research and will discuss with you...
Oh, Boy, that will be a fun..............
Sincerely
Zeena
#31 Posted by ZahraJ on May 19, 2006 8:43:02 pm
The topic is interesting, but I do not know if it is necessarily the dark side. Even if it is, then there is an opposite to each and every thing in life. I am reminded of a saying that when you truly love someone, then you should set them free.
#30 Posted by drsohail on May 19, 2006 1:26:35 pm
Re: # 29
dear ixno
physical control
emotional control
thought control
dark...darker...darkest...side of love
all can be part of jealousy....as well as sado-masochistic relationships and can get worse
when lovers start living with each other
sincerely sohail
dear ixno
physical control
emotional control
thought control
dark...darker...darkest...side of love
all can be part of jealousy....as well as sado-masochistic relationships and can get worse
when lovers start living with each other
sincerely sohail
#29 Posted by ixno on May 19, 2006 1:17:48 pm
thought control was the dark side of love - and it does not always stem from jealousy
#28 Posted by drsohail on May 19, 2006 11:46:03 am
Re: # 27
DEAR aslam 644... i fully agree with you there
jo barh kar thaam lay meena usi ka hay
sincerely sohail
DEAR aslam 644... i fully agree with you there
jo barh kar thaam lay meena usi ka hay
sincerely sohail
#27 Posted by aslam644 on May 19, 2006 11:24:17 am
#20 by drsohail on May 19, 2006 5:53am PT
sohail sahab i was just pointing out the winners and losers, darwinian shakeout is nasty whether it`s in biology, business or marriage market.
sohail sahab i was just pointing out the winners and losers, darwinian shakeout is nasty whether it`s in biology, business or marriage market.
#26 Posted by KaalChakra on May 19, 2006 11:19:58 am
Drsohail
It could be that in jealousy, the dominant emotion is that of uncertainty-induced fear and foreboding of losing a valued possession, but in the type of triangular situation the woman was in, the dominant emotions are a deep sense of betrayal and personal insult - of being judged less than someone else in a social comparative sense, of being cast aside as worthless.
Here is a hypothesis you could test in your research. In situations of triangular love, emotions will be much more raw and response more likely to be violent when the three individuals were/are acquainted with one another outside of their love-relationship.
One would guess that in the latter situation betrayal and insult would become significantly operative/ controlling emotions.
Take it just as a thought...you know the literature.
It could be that in jealousy, the dominant emotion is that of uncertainty-induced fear and foreboding of losing a valued possession, but in the type of triangular situation the woman was in, the dominant emotions are a deep sense of betrayal and personal insult - of being judged less than someone else in a social comparative sense, of being cast aside as worthless.
Here is a hypothesis you could test in your research. In situations of triangular love, emotions will be much more raw and response more likely to be violent when the three individuals were/are acquainted with one another outside of their love-relationship.
One would guess that in the latter situation betrayal and insult would become significantly operative/ controlling emotions.
Take it just as a thought...you know the literature.
#25 Posted by drsohail on May 19, 2006 10:26:58 am
Re: # 24
Dear kaalchakra....a thorn can cause a bleeding finger while a `prickly` love can cause a
bleeding heart. The third party can just be a triggering mechanism but in jealousy that
triggering factor can be penalized, persecuted even killed for no fault of his/her own.
Most innocent people do not like it except a few French lovers who claim in their novels that
they would love to be killed by `jealous husbands`. When I meet a woman who finds out
that her best female friend is romantically involved with her husband, I am curious who she
is more angry with ....her friend...or husband...who she thinks betrayed her more? any
thoughts?
sincerely sohail
Dear kaalchakra....a thorn can cause a bleeding finger while a `prickly` love can cause a
bleeding heart. The third party can just be a triggering mechanism but in jealousy that
triggering factor can be penalized, persecuted even killed for no fault of his/her own.
Most innocent people do not like it except a few French lovers who claim in their novels that
they would love to be killed by `jealous husbands`. When I meet a woman who finds out
that her best female friend is romantically involved with her husband, I am curious who she
is more angry with ....her friend...or husband...who she thinks betrayed her more? any
thoughts?
sincerely sohail
#24 Posted by KaalChakra on May 19, 2006 9:11:06 am
In relational terms, Dr. Sahib, why not look at it this way....jealousy is not a triangular feeling at all. The third person is immaterial. He/she could be a dog or a pig for all a lover cares, hence no more than a contextual factor, a triggering mechanism, impacting the relationship between two individuals.
#23 Posted by KaalChakra on May 19, 2006 9:05:02 am
Is a rose with no thorns really a rose? I have never seen one such.
#22 Posted by drsohail on May 19, 2006 8:17:24 am
Re: # 21
Dear Zeena....you are a very knowledgable and well read person. I read your comments
with great interest and learn a few things from them. I am silent when I do not have any
thing valuable to add. I have learnt the value of a genuine dialogue from philosophers but
also learnt the value of silence from mystics. In my articles I share my humble opinion
based on my personal, social and professional experiences. Readers are intelligent people.
They are free to accept or reject. It is not easy to write for a mixed gathering, some
readers might be psychologists and psychiatrists while others bankers and accountants. I
do not like using psychiatric terminology unless I am presenting in a mental health
conference. Thanks for your continued interest in my articles. I am sure your comments
benefit other readers. Let me be fully honest. I am not an expert on any subject.
My education and experience helps me in helping people who suffer emotionally and I feel
fortunate that I can be part of their life struggles and help them a little bit. Canada
has socialized medicine so patients do not have to pay from their pocket or from Insurance
Companies . The treatment of their physical and emotional problems is covered by the
Government. I am sure when you would be in a loving relationship you would be writing
love poems and not be jealous...smiles... all the best
sincerely sohail
Dear Zeena....you are a very knowledgable and well read person. I read your comments
with great interest and learn a few things from them. I am silent when I do not have any
thing valuable to add. I have learnt the value of a genuine dialogue from philosophers but
also learnt the value of silence from mystics. In my articles I share my humble opinion
based on my personal, social and professional experiences. Readers are intelligent people.
They are free to accept or reject. It is not easy to write for a mixed gathering, some
readers might be psychologists and psychiatrists while others bankers and accountants. I
do not like using psychiatric terminology unless I am presenting in a mental health
conference. Thanks for your continued interest in my articles. I am sure your comments
benefit other readers. Let me be fully honest. I am not an expert on any subject.
My education and experience helps me in helping people who suffer emotionally and I feel
fortunate that I can be part of their life struggles and help them a little bit. Canada
has socialized medicine so patients do not have to pay from their pocket or from Insurance
Companies . The treatment of their physical and emotional problems is covered by the
Government. I am sure when you would be in a loving relationship you would be writing
love poems and not be jealous...smiles... all the best
sincerely sohail
#21 Posted by Zeena on May 19, 2006 7:22:02 am
Dear Dr.Sohail
Hi
How you doing.....
You did not answer my Post # 8 and also you did not give me your phone number.
What is it You do not like my research on jealousy?
Again, can you please elaborate your article about jealousy syndrome?
And, also, can you please give me a good piece of advice on how to control my jealousy when seeing luvy duvy couples? Honestly, I am sick and tired of my jealousy.
I think I need your help, doctor.
Sincerely
Zeena
Hi
How you doing.....
You did not answer my Post # 8 and also you did not give me your phone number.
What is it You do not like my research on jealousy?
Again, can you please elaborate your article about jealousy syndrome?
And, also, can you please give me a good piece of advice on how to control my jealousy when seeing luvy duvy couples? Honestly, I am sick and tired of my jealousy.
I think I need your help, doctor.
Sincerely
Zeena
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