Saima Shah June 14, 2006
#3 Posted by SaimaShah on June 14, 2006 2:05:17 pm
HP
:) The devil is in the details.
The article here examines in detail some of the skeptics who are in positions of power:
http://thetyee.ca/Mediacheck/2006/05/02/PaidtoDenyGlobalWarming/
Other interesting sites you may want to check are:
http://www.heatisonline.org/main.cfm
and www.climatecrisis.net
About fear. It all depends on what scares us. For some it is fear of other people and their values, for others it is global catastrophe. I find the stance on terrorism irrational and paranoid, others may think the concern for climate change overdone. Isnt it all about the change we are afraid will happen? Global warming is quite conclusively because of deforestation and carbon emissions. Other environmental catastrophes are brewing that I haven`t even touched on. Not so far back, people were denying the problem with the ozone layer. And yet, sure enough it was CFCs, that created a huge hole in the Earths atmosphere. Finally reduction in CFC has decreased the rate of growth in the ozone hole. What really helped the Ozone crisis was widespread media interest. Global warming is also expected to increase the rate of ozone depletion.
As you know scientists always debate, but this is one issue on which 99% of scientists are in agreement. The 1% who are skeptical are being paid well to argue. Makes one wonder, doesn`t it?
:) The devil is in the details.
The article here examines in detail some of the skeptics who are in positions of power:
http://thetyee.ca/Mediacheck/2006/05/02/PaidtoDenyGlobalWarming/
Other interesting sites you may want to check are:
http://www.heatisonline.org/main.cfm
and www.climatecrisis.net
About fear. It all depends on what scares us. For some it is fear of other people and their values, for others it is global catastrophe. I find the stance on terrorism irrational and paranoid, others may think the concern for climate change overdone. Isnt it all about the change we are afraid will happen? Global warming is quite conclusively because of deforestation and carbon emissions. Other environmental catastrophes are brewing that I haven`t even touched on. Not so far back, people were denying the problem with the ozone layer. And yet, sure enough it was CFCs, that created a huge hole in the Earths atmosphere. Finally reduction in CFC has decreased the rate of growth in the ozone hole. What really helped the Ozone crisis was widespread media interest. Global warming is also expected to increase the rate of ozone depletion.
As you know scientists always debate, but this is one issue on which 99% of scientists are in agreement. The 1% who are skeptical are being paid well to argue. Makes one wonder, doesn`t it?
#2 Posted by HP on June 14, 2006 12:06:54 pm
Playing Devil`s advocate....
It amazes me how this ``global warming caused by man`` debate continues to survive. Planet Earth has gone through cycles of heating and cooling ever since God created it. Yet Al Gore & Co. expect us to believe that it has only started warming over the last 50-100 yrs. because of the burning of fossil fuels. Riiiight.
It was recently discovered that the Arctic was once a tropical paradise some 35 mil. years ago. Imagine all the oil that could be up there. Canada could become an OPEC nation!
Also, where`s the proof that atmospheric CO2 is at a higher level than at any other time in history? Even if it were, could a world population high of 6+ billion have anything to do with it? And besides, plants LOVE CO2. They turn it into oxygen! The tree huggers should be thrilled.
“-- In a new study from the National Center for Policy Analysis entitled, ``Climate Science: Climate Change and Its Impacts``, (http://www.ncpa.org/pub/st/st285/)Dr. David Legates, the Delaware state climatologist, notes, ``Global warming alarmists have attributed increases in hurricanes, floods, droughts, tornadoes, hail storms and heat waves to global warming caused by human activities. However, the evidence does not support their claims.``
This study was the subject of a great op-ed (http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pdupont/?id=110008416)in the Wall Street Journal`s Opinion Journal by Former Delaware Governor Pete DuPont. In it, DuPont cites some very strong evidence of improved environmental data and presents some scientifically based skepticism about the various global warming claims. He also points out that on the first Earth Day in 1970, the New York Times predicted ``intolerable deterioration and possible extinction`` for humans due to pollution. Indeed, says DuPont, one environmentalist, Paul Ehrlich, predicted that 4 billion people (including 65 million Americans) would die from famine in the 80`s. And yes, he meant the nineteen eighties. Hysteria is nothing new -- after all, it sells papers.”
Also see
http://www.climatescience.org.nz/
http://members.iinet.net.au/~glrmc/new_page_1.htm
http://www.cei.org/
A money quote from not-so-global-warming-friendly site.
“There isn`t compelling scientific proof that man has any significant influence on global warming/cooling cycles. We simply don`t understand the complex relationships in enough detail. False precision and reckless assumptions from climate modeling ensembles get the headlines because the left leaning media wants to believe the message.
Gore is yelling ``Fire`` in a crowded movie theatre because a fire might or might not break out some day. Who cares if folks get trampled?”
It amazes me how this ``global warming caused by man`` debate continues to survive. Planet Earth has gone through cycles of heating and cooling ever since God created it. Yet Al Gore & Co. expect us to believe that it has only started warming over the last 50-100 yrs. because of the burning of fossil fuels. Riiiight.
It was recently discovered that the Arctic was once a tropical paradise some 35 mil. years ago. Imagine all the oil that could be up there. Canada could become an OPEC nation!
Also, where`s the proof that atmospheric CO2 is at a higher level than at any other time in history? Even if it were, could a world population high of 6+ billion have anything to do with it? And besides, plants LOVE CO2. They turn it into oxygen! The tree huggers should be thrilled.
“-- In a new study from the National Center for Policy Analysis entitled, ``Climate Science: Climate Change and Its Impacts``, (http://www.ncpa.org/pub/st/st285/)Dr. David Legates, the Delaware state climatologist, notes, ``Global warming alarmists have attributed increases in hurricanes, floods, droughts, tornadoes, hail storms and heat waves to global warming caused by human activities. However, the evidence does not support their claims.``
This study was the subject of a great op-ed (http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pdupont/?id=110008416)in the Wall Street Journal`s Opinion Journal by Former Delaware Governor Pete DuPont. In it, DuPont cites some very strong evidence of improved environmental data and presents some scientifically based skepticism about the various global warming claims. He also points out that on the first Earth Day in 1970, the New York Times predicted ``intolerable deterioration and possible extinction`` for humans due to pollution. Indeed, says DuPont, one environmentalist, Paul Ehrlich, predicted that 4 billion people (including 65 million Americans) would die from famine in the 80`s. And yes, he meant the nineteen eighties. Hysteria is nothing new -- after all, it sells papers.”
Also see
http://www.climatescience.org.nz/
http://members.iinet.net.au/~glrmc/new_page_1.htm
http://www.cei.org/
A money quote from not-so-global-warming-friendly site.
“There isn`t compelling scientific proof that man has any significant influence on global warming/cooling cycles. We simply don`t understand the complex relationships in enough detail. False precision and reckless assumptions from climate modeling ensembles get the headlines because the left leaning media wants to believe the message.
Gore is yelling ``Fire`` in a crowded movie theatre because a fire might or might not break out some day. Who cares if folks get trampled?”
#1 Posted by likewater on June 14, 2006 11:37:59 am
Thanks for this article Ms. Shah.
`The Inconvenient Truth`` has been a wake up call for us, hats off to Al Gore. We as a family have made 3 goals for this year -- 1) Change our refrigerators to new energy saving kind this week 2) Replace the old furnace with a new energy saving one before winter 3) Replace atleast one of the cars with a hybrid this year.
Thats what it comes down to -- everyone taking ownership and making little changes which infact are money saving in the long run and quite the obvious choice.
`The Inconvenient Truth`` has been a wake up call for us, hats off to Al Gore. We as a family have made 3 goals for this year -- 1) Change our refrigerators to new energy saving kind this week 2) Replace the old furnace with a new energy saving one before winter 3) Replace atleast one of the cars with a hybrid this year.
Thats what it comes down to -- everyone taking ownership and making little changes which infact are money saving in the long run and quite the obvious choice.
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