Feroz R Khan July 2, 2006
#2 Posted by articulating on July 3, 2006 3:25:09 pm
Glad your analyzed it....cud u provide proof of the fact that manufacturing industries r in their infantile stages........?
#1 Posted by majumdar on July 3, 2006 6:02:53 am
Feroze sahib,
There is no point in blaming politicians or political process for the hopelessness in Pak because the Army holds the real power. It is a vicious cycle, lack of democracy undermines the political process and weak political processes undermine confidence in politics and hence a return to real democracy.
Regards
There is no point in blaming politicians or political process for the hopelessness in Pak because the Army holds the real power. It is a vicious cycle, lack of democracy undermines the political process and weak political processes undermine confidence in politics and hence a return to real democracy.
Regards
#6 Posted by ferozk on July 3, 2006 9:55:31 pm
Re: # 1
With all due respects to your view point, I personally saw the riots and experienced the destruction. The Mall, which was burned was only a few minutes walking time away from my house. I could clearly see the mobs of young people running on the Mall and everyone in the neighborhood knew, who was leading them and who was organizing the mayhem. It was the political parties, which were behind the riots and in fact, the religious parties had nothing to do with them and in fact, were trying to prevent the acts of destruction.
There was tearing gassing and some of the tear gas shells landed in the garden in the front of my house blinding my mother. The gas entered our house and would not leave; further choking my mother with their fumes.
The blame for the politicans instigating the riots is because they were behind it and the political parties took the opportunity, when the government relaxed its ban on public assembies in Lahore. Though the reason was to protest the publishing of the offending cartoons by a Danish newspaper, the political parties wanted to use the pretext as a demostration against the Musharraf government. In this case, the politicans are to be blamed for their acts and seeing the riots personally. Lahore is a very familar city and everyone in Lahore know, who supports whom against whom politically speaking.
This is not about the army-civilian wet dreams of power; it is about a break down of law and order and who was behind it. In my eyes, when civilian politicans do a wrong act, it is still a wrong act and it will NEVER be a right act just because they are civilians! I have nothing against blaming and holding the army responsible for its deeds in our history, but I am not naive enough to believe that civilian politicans are like angels, who have descended from Heaven, as some manna, for our mutual benefit and thus, must not be judged too harsly.
Ciao
With all due respects to your view point, I personally saw the riots and experienced the destruction. The Mall, which was burned was only a few minutes walking time away from my house. I could clearly see the mobs of young people running on the Mall and everyone in the neighborhood knew, who was leading them and who was organizing the mayhem. It was the political parties, which were behind the riots and in fact, the religious parties had nothing to do with them and in fact, were trying to prevent the acts of destruction.
There was tearing gassing and some of the tear gas shells landed in the garden in the front of my house blinding my mother. The gas entered our house and would not leave; further choking my mother with their fumes.
The blame for the politicans instigating the riots is because they were behind it and the political parties took the opportunity, when the government relaxed its ban on public assembies in Lahore. Though the reason was to protest the publishing of the offending cartoons by a Danish newspaper, the political parties wanted to use the pretext as a demostration against the Musharraf government. In this case, the politicans are to be blamed for their acts and seeing the riots personally. Lahore is a very familar city and everyone in Lahore know, who supports whom against whom politically speaking.
This is not about the army-civilian wet dreams of power; it is about a break down of law and order and who was behind it. In my eyes, when civilian politicans do a wrong act, it is still a wrong act and it will NEVER be a right act just because they are civilians! I have nothing against blaming and holding the army responsible for its deeds in our history, but I am not naive enough to believe that civilian politicans are like angels, who have descended from Heaven, as some manna, for our mutual benefit and thus, must not be judged too harsly.
Ciao
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