My Summer of ’69

Re: # 73 u said all this is true but i love to mobile friendship if u have any female contacts then please send me some numbers at my email address my address is serial_kisser1121@yahoo.com ok bye thanks

total tafreeh.

Nicely written. But i feel sorry for the decent guy turned criminal. His conscience wouldn`t spare him all his life.

Re: # 8, wht is a Jazz card or KFC lunch, now-a-days girls ask for a KFC lunch ... means a date OR an easy load of MObile card, then they talk on each and every thing and disclose all of their secrets, even sometimes they do sex...mobile sex.
I wonder, they are still cute and MASOOOM

haha! this was interesting :)

Re: # 76
Ten grand on EACH check post.... that`s some money... heartfelt commiserations to your cousin
i`ve been to peshawar three times (if my memory serves me right), and i don`t remember a single occassion where i was subjected to such a thorough checking... (that is not to say i dont believe you coz i have heard that seat-disassembling scenario from others as well)

now, not that i was carrying hash or some AK-47s but i think the fact that on all these occassions, i returned before 10 pm and on two of the occassions had at least one elderly person with me helped me get out of there without much fuss

and above all, they must have judged that this guy cant be carrying even 5 grand on him ;)

#73 by kaami

I was almost sure that it was non-fiction until the murder thing came along.... who on earth would kill two extremely harmless policewallahs when four joints and a few hundred rupees is all that they would`ve asked for...

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Not a few hundred rupees by the way. I dont doubt the fabrication of this account, or `story` if you want to call it, but just for your info, dont try tempting them ``a few hundred rupees``.

My cousin went to peshawar on someone`s funeral and when he was coming back, he was stopped on all checkposts and each one of them took around 10 grand till finally he used some contacts. The people at the checkpost even checked under the radiator cap and believe me, even took out the car seats.


And secondly, not wanting to sound like i want to generalize, but there are some girls belonging to different cities, areas, mindsets etc. who DO lose their virginity over a Jazz card. Some take more. Some take less. Some dont take anything. Pakistani girls are no hoors but no whores either!

Re: # 45
The SSG is normally so busy in running Bakeries, Banks, Schools, Colleges, Universities, Traffic Signals kind of things these days that they don`t give a damn if somebody kills two, four or eight policewallahs right under their nose.

Re: # 42
Saturday mornings dear friend :)

Great read... easy-on-the-mind stuff, something that rarely makes it to the chowk front-page

I was almost sure that it was non-fiction until the murder thing came along.... who on earth would kill two extremely harmless policewallahs when four joints and a few hundred rupees is all that they would`ve asked for... (on that note, a friend of mine once confessed to me that he had thought about pushing a policewallah from a moving train when he was caught (or rather interrupted) while smoking a joint standing at the entrance of a compartment... indeed, fiction stems from the truth)
and how can a first time murderer slumber from 6 to 4 when he`s committed ``the crime`` only a few hours ago.... unless he`s had a dozen joints of the good-stuff just before going to sleep
otherwise, there`s nothing much in the story that removes it from reality

(but c`mon... don`t defame the pakistani girls, a UETian ought to know that they ain`t that bad... not all girls would lose their hymen for a jazz card or a KFC lunch... believe me, some are a lot more demanding... think about a mobile-phone instead of a jazz card or a PC dinner instead of a KFC lunch ;) and most of them ask for the most dreadful... commitment)

P.S.: I never knew there were so many UETians at chowk.... thanks for the nostalgic memories (quite recent moemories though)

Re: # 67 by HP on June 22, 2006 10:19am PT

{``Are you referring to Jamshed Bakery in nursery? ``

Behram,

I sure cannot remember the name of the bakery but it sure was owned by some iranian and was known as irani bakery. }

That bakery was owned by my uncle and there was a maulana`s convenience store right across the restaurant, next to the bakery. What a small world?

Respectfully submitted,

Re: # 70

Thanks for clearing all confusion.

I was trying to analyze! Is this fiction, an exercise in imagination or true happening. While going through the writing, I did not doubt overall in anything unusual in the sequence of events. This is what happens in the life of almost every young man belonging to somewhat affluent family. For being moderately affluent in pakistan, you dont have to be super rich.

However as soon as I read of the murders, I could clearly feel and see the distortion. Not even the most henious murders would dare to openly confess and narrate the details of his capitol crime. At the least he would try to justify himself , even when confessing. I am confident , with the background that the writer has narrated, the killing part of writing is purely a fabrication of mind and nothing else. On the whole, this part is the undoing of any qualitative virtue of this article.
It would have been in good taste, if the writer had added a note on this.

Bravo
My Summer of 69, Got 69 intracts,
its what, the author want,
Keep on writing
waiting for the next piece

#66 the woodstock..its my previous 7 generations of sins their past lives that i missed the sixties in the US :(

#57 by behram1
``Are you referring to Jamshed Bakery in nursery? ``

Behram,

I sure cannot remember the name of the bakery but it sure was owned by some iranian and was known as irani bakery.

Re: # 65

jang mian,

......... surely you remember woodstock ? aug 15-18, 1969 .......... and as bryan adams says, ``they were the best days of my life ``

good pulp-fiction...but somewhat innocently written. in india, currently son of a dead BJP stalwart is under investigation becuase his buddy ODed on an injected drug..so reality is far less innocent. (some direct injection of adrenalin in heart of an ODing DSPs daughter would have been better)..i have not read the interacts, but cummon, charas is the cheapest and most easily available anywhere on indian subcontinent..it used to be a mere couple of ruppes in 80`s to give serious muchies to 4 large adults for the whole nights...and whats with mobile phones and KFC in `69?

Re: # 63

Nahin Yaar Delhi wala. Moi, I am not manto at all... I am not Ahmedi. People consider me just a non-practising muslim. And I consider myself a ``spiritual but not religious`` type of a person.

Re: # 59
Charlie Et Tu Manto......(scratching my beard.....).

I thought that you were from Punjab and had a lastname of Cheema. Are you Ahmedi then????

#60 by hamidm2

Ama yaar,

Get this through your head – once and for all! I have NEVER obsessed over you!

And also, if I may say so – you need to stop seeing Ozer under every bed!

Ozer is gone – like the wind! (But not like the gas!)

Alas, your guilt at precipitating his departure from these sad green pastures with your heartless and cruel comments at long last comes back to haunt you!

It comes back to haunt you – like Ceasar’s ghost!

And you squirm – and you jump at every shadow!

“Is that you, Ozer?!!”

To no avail!

Let me add one more straw to that mounting pile that you carry on your back!

Ozer may be gone but in all likelihood – he is still watching!

Watching and enjoying this discomfiture!

Watching YOU!

And sometime, when you least expect it – he will jump up and say…..

BOO!!!

Re: # 59

Manto = Charlie or Charlie = Ahmad or Ahmad=Manto

Nice to meet you :)

Re: # 54

You don`t need to register a new nick only to write a harmless post like this one.

Manto says somewhere: ``I do not want to create a disturbance in people`s thought and feelings. Who am I to undress the society and its culture which itself is naked? I make no attempts to clothe it. That`s not my job, it`s the tailor`s!``

And then many people wanted to send Manto Sahib in prison because of his ``harsh tone`` and ``dirty mentality``. :)

Re: # 56
Mehrbani bjk...for the comment...indeed its fiction...one of the more outrageous things things that I submitted three or four weeks ago was rejected by chowk guys...and it was neither about homosexuality, sex, pot nor homicide...it wasn`t even fiction...that was genuine analysis that could indeed have been highly offensive to some of the readers...but honest opinion it was and nothing more...hopefully I`d be able to get the content published even if would have to use symbolism...but that would take the sting out of it...perhaps chowk guys are happy if I keep on writing ``A Tale of two Dinners`` kind of satires...no place for serious stuff...tsk tsk...
Regards
Ahmad Hayat

Re: # 48 by HP on June 21, 2006 12:12pm PT

HP:

{While talking in front of the bakery, we realized that we share a passion for hashish.}

Are you referring to Jamshed Bakery in nursery?

Ama yaar,

(I am reasonably sure this is indeed fiction.)

Your writing style is okay – but the plot for the current story is what keeps the interest – by delving into taboo subjects while not making a big deal about them and throwing in a whole bunch of provocative (sometimes inflammatory) sentences along the way. (But it is difficult to use this trick more than a couple of times.) Some of the details in describing the encounter with the police are less than credible and could have been fixed up to improve the ending. If I were writing it, I would have withheld the part about the ladies of the night and sprung it in some different manner right at the end!

Keep writing! (And pay no attention to the ramblings of old H₂.)

Nadia Zehra, I am sorry about chowk banning your ID and in the process suppressing your older interacts which had nothing to do with whatever was the perceived offense. I think it is highly dictatorial!

......... apparently things have gone from bad to worse in pakistan since the seventies when you could buy the best chitrali at your neighborhood cigarette khoka anywhere in lahore or pindi/islamabad ........ now you have to drive all the way to peshawar ! ........ unbelievable ! ....... in my time at uet you could buy it from pehalwan`s fruit shop right in front of D hall or, at the most, walk over to copper store and buy it at the pan shop next to chaman hotel or, on the other side, walk across gt road and buy it from the halwai who would add it to your khata in his register .......... and if you really wanted to have a party, you could get a crew of bhangis from ghoray shah to come over to the hostel and brew the best bhang right there on the spot ............. in pindi you could buy it from the pathans who manned the tals in koila center in saddar or, for that matter, any pathan walking down the street .........

.......now look what the world has come to !............ i think we have to thank that mardood zia for this sad state of affairs ........ not only did he destroy democracy and all that, he also killed free trade and the joy it brought to the citizens of pakistan ........ may his remaining bones rot in hell !

Surprised,,,,,,im. where the filter like stuff of CHOWK had gone,
1st,, an over exaggerated, beyond from reality, obscene, article.
Then intract`` like # 53,,,,,,,
it sounds like all the so called UETeans, have the same tone and mentality.

Re: # 52
Chal, Good hay keh tu apun ko abhi nahin bhoola... :)

Aur suna, how many french bachies have got the honor to sleep with you so far? Now don`t tell me keh itni franseesi nahin aati keh bachion say lift li ja sakay... Ya yeh keh engineering departmens main bachi mahol nahin hota...
*One of Pakistanis turned red (mashriqiat say) while telling me that his class mate has asked him the question: ``voulez vous coucher avec moi? ``... Kissi bachi nay tujh say yeh sawal poocha?

Re: # 44
Charlie bhai main aapko jaanta hay pehchaanta hay...zara stuka khan kay saath jokem baazee kur raha tha...

Adack Darya.....
Same place where Hari Singh Nalwa Jee crossed to kick the Afghans back into their holes....

If catharsis was the reason behind this article then an ilog would have been enough.....a tip for the Chowk editors......you dont have to publish everything coming your way.....

Is ISI or whatever the Secuirty deptt in Pakistan is called reading this stuff?

This is too brutal. For a minute or two, I thought this guy is writing my story. Confession time. Let’s take it to the late 70s in Karachi.

I met this pashtoon guy from the Kohat area in Karachi at nursery which was my neighborhood for sometime. No names here, he is now a sr. executive of a bank in Peshawar. At that time, he was doing some course for the bank and was in the bank’s rest house or officer’s hostel at Sindhi Muslim society.

While talking in front of the bakery, we realized that we share a passion for hashish. He was looking to buy the stuff and I used to get my quota from a pashtoon under the Malir Bridge. There used to be a big Pathan colony there. His room in the resthouse became a hangout. Like the writer here, I too had access to a car for almost 24/7.(friend, I did not even have job then.) During the weekends, the hostel used to be empty so we had it available to us for college girls having some fun with little money on the side.

I did go to Peshawar, kohat and dara adam khel with him and got plenty of charas and other in things, that we smoked in his village. It was such a pleasure to see all the mountains and enjoy our tokes. We still talk over the phone maybe once a year. He still smokes regularly and for me it is not so regular now.

Now here is how we differ. We were never stopped by a cop or anyone else anywhere so that part is out. I think the cop killing part of this story is influenced by the song and is not real.

After you smoke charass or hashish, you are never aggressive. I have experimented charass with several combos from chemical to just liquor and bhang. Charass just takes the aggressiveness away and it slows your reaction time. Therefore, the cop killing story here does not make sense at all. No true smoker can react so fast and so decisively.
Other than that, it is just fun to read and reminiscence good old days….

Janay kehan gaiy who din….

Attock Bridge has usually four types of guards, beafed up after 9/11. Exices Dept, Customs, Police and FC. The road leading to Punjab is fairly straight over the new Khairabnad Bridge and there is no place to hide. The area is well lit up with lots of road side hotels. How did the authjor know that there were two prostitutes around.

There are holes in the plot.
Cherrios

Urstruly:
``they would come back by bus first thing in the morning around 5:30 am waddling in the street. They couldn`t even walk straight under the influence, hangover, ``

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At 5:30, you were up?!. I assume, you were saying your fajar prayers or qaza-Tahajjud? :)

good stuff.! the protagonist mustta known, how close the devil was lurking while they were having a go at the Law. the ultimate keepers of national interest - SSG`s - were right there up the hill.

Re: # 23

Yaar, mera naam Charlie hay... Samjhay.

Yaar Stukay, It is not me but my batch mate at my university in pakistan.

I think Ahmed, at the end of the story, has exaggerated too much.
There is no need to go to Peshawar for Charas. In Lahore, you can find it on dozen of places...


however, blunt and emotionless tone of the article...

Hi Ahmad Hayat,
It is indeed an engrossing, deeply revealing, informative and well-written article.

i`m surprised... not living in pakistan i almost considered the city holy, i mean i don`t even use f*ck or b*tch in front of my paki relatives... i thought the article was great, really revealed the hypocrisy of the nation... although i still find it hard to believe that my cousins are smoking pot and having sex on all those saturday nights that they manage to escape family dinner.

i`m surprised... not living in pakistan i almost considered the city holy, i mean i don`t even use f*ck or b*tch in front of my paki relatives... i thought the article was great, really revealed the hypocrisy of the nation... although i still find it hard to believe that my cousins are smoking pot and having sex on all those saturday nights that they manage to escape family dinner.

Re: # 40

Yes, thanks to the fauji thugs, all you need is aRs. 15000 per month income and a letter from your employer and you can lease the statue of liberty.

This is what the social conservatives lament about day and night that what would happen when it will be payback time for a person whose every hair on his ass is tied into the debt. A debt based consumersim makes sense in those societies who attack other helpless socities every other year and massacares thousands with impunity to make up. But what about the losers like in countries like Pakistan? I don`t think they are left with any other option than setting up brothels in their own households. Our government calls it moderation and enlightenment.

3 years ago it was possible for a 22 year old, with mediocre grads, and only a undergrad degree, to get a job that enables him to afford a car in very first year!!

Pakistani economy must have been doing real well at that time.

It has all the ingredients a la Fredrick Forsyth. Some truth and most, well linked fiction like the Dogs of War and Jackal.

True there is this culture in the society and that one vice leads to another. True, the Jazz card has given a birth to tele prostitution. True that the Sheesha Joints are fast changing to hash joints.

The writer leaves too many clues to trace him like UET Lahore. It is more fiction.

Cheerios

Nice way to escape,,,,,,,
when one have no answer ,try to bother other like that, ,,,,,Hackle stuff,
as you had told in your vary ARTICLE (for me its ;;;;;) you were a bookworm ,,,,not me, i prefere spoken language more than grammatic,,well , if i `ve chance ,would like to improve my language skill,,but why I would like to improve, i dont wanna write ARTICLES like you,
looking for reply, not mistakes,
so, now i ask you, ``asked you`` (as u like ) ,honey, genius,

The story is written in quite an engaging manner. The events in the story may or may not be fictional but the general atmosphere of debauchery and decadence portrayed in the story is absolutely accurate. And the important thing is that it is not the corruption and immorality in a certain segment of society that is alarming but it is the moral bankruptcy in the general population that is leading us to a dead end.

Now, for example, when I was a student in Karachi, I used to share an apartement with some fellow classmates in a middle to upper middle class neighborhood. Ther were 8 buildings in that appartment complex and we knew that each building had at least two three households that were quite openly in the ``business``. My next door neighbor was an actress in sindhi movies and tv shows. I occassionally had chat with her at the balcony. As a matter of fact it was her who told me about most of the other ``business`` outlets in the complex. She knew about them because as the punjabi proverb goes that ``majh majh di bhen hondi eh``. The revelation was quite an eye opener. A govermnet of sindh suv used to pick her and her 3 or 4 sisters up almost every night and they would come back by bus first thing in the morning around 5:30 am waddling in the street. They couldn`t even walk straight under the influence, hangover, and beating that they received every night. I don`t know they were into bondage or some sadistic ritual or something but every morning they used to come with swollen faces and bruises.

Another auntie used to live in the building next door. She was the khalla of about twenty school-age teen girls. She improvised her bsuiness quite aggressively. The girls were providing door to door service in their school uniforms. I interviewed one of the girls and she told me that at home she was being believed to be in school and was not expected to get back home until six or seven o clock. I was amazed by the business structure that khalla had concocted. She found her niche and tapped a new new market by targeting those men who would mostly stay home during the day-time.

But what really shocked me was the prevalence of male prostitutes in the city. It always made me wonder what was that that was driving society in that direction. I know a thesis can be written with a plathora of reasons but my opinion is that these businesses including drugs and weapons cannot flourish untill societal structure has broken down first. What is that that is causing the breakdown of our social structure. Are we consciously enforcing this breakdown through media and a set of illegal governmental structure? Are our values so outdated that they have no meaning in present day society. But if our values are strong, is it in us to enforce them with whatever it takes? Do we have in us to make sacrifices for coming generations.

Re: # 35
English-101
(secretgarden improves her previous best...Girl outshines boys in the intermediate exams :))

``Where can one find you`` or ``Where could have one found you``...not `` could found you``
``Who asked you`` or ``Who asks you``...not ``Who ask you``
``genius`` honey...not ``genious``
``exploit``...not ``expoit``...and that`s the second time

Were you educated at a Jamaica Medium high school or what??? because Urdu medium guys don`t make these kind of mistakes.

Ahmad Hayat
P.S. and for GOD`s sake bibi...french girls are not called ``Franchies``...

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and if you rank the guys in the same way, where one could found you?????????(perhaps out of the list,,who even dont have any inner thought)
Who ask you to rank GIRLS, (but infact,im sure you are a genious, nice way to get highst intracts by writing articles like this,)
and be a man , it does`nt matter whether u write Gulz or GIRLS ,, (like whether u say, mom or aami or aami jan or maman or mama or,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,it changes nothing,)
the point was, to give respects to others regardless of sex,dont expoit their true image in front of those who make their vision by reading the articles like that one.

Ozer who ??? Stuka guy keeps on beating that Charlie Mamoon drum and now you have popped up with Ozer. Should I post my photo or what?
regards
Ahmad Hayat

#32 the mirror you hold up and the resultant image people are seeing is just way too much for them. They are scared to uttering the words ``mirror, mirror, on the wall.......`` for they might see an ugly reflection of themselves!

congratulations - hayat. The contradictions in society, dare I say ``hypocrisy``, between the statement of the Auntie sahiban

``“Baita, who Amreeka jaa kur kharab ho jayay ga.” Auntie used to say to me, whenever Mohsin or his future prospects came under discussion.``

and depths of depravity plunged by her son and yourself (his friend) is way too stark. Hilarious, cringe worthy, captivating all at the same time. For chowk this is a first!

Ozar Khalid is well and truly alive!

jeeeeeez, jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez and another jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez!
We have a homicide right here on chowk, among us mere mortals, us who are prone to being a victim of homicide than committing it ...I don`t know ho to express it...so let me just quote bjk:

YA ALLAH, TERA BOHUT, BOHUT, BOHUT SHUKRIYA!

Reply to interact # 25 et al.
As a matter of principle and lately of experience I have considered girls extremly superficial and completely devoid of original thoughts and ideas; the prettier they get the shallower I have found them to be...but my dear friends...after having read some of the `interacts` to my article and having seen an extremely enlightening ``Howard Stern`` tape, I have changed my opinions somewhat. Although ``secret garden`` has proved to be, until now, by far ``thee shallowest``: And thankfully, for that matter, a girl, there are some specimens of the rougher sex not very far behind. I hope that some of the guys would try to break this myth of gender dominance in this domain and come out with as pathetic a writing style as that of ``secret garden``. By virtue of writing `gulz` instead of ``girls`` and ``paki gulz`` to boot...using the expression ``Own Self Made``...and hopping aimlessly, rather shamelessly, between second and third person, this user deserves to get her `interact` published on chowk home page. Or should I blame MSN chat machines for this gibberish. gulz...dah
Truly yours

Ahmad Hayat

p.s. also have I noticed, after reading the interacts, that most of the Paksitanis living outside Paksitan (even if they were born in Wilayat) have failed to liberate themselves from the taboos of Pakistani society hence the famous acronyms ABCD or BBCD or DBCD. The fault lies perhaps with their parents who were not born there but still want to imbibe their children with false Pakistani morality and stuff of the kind...but that is subject matter for at least a book...Je m`arrete. ta...ta

Re: # 8 anything that could cost you your virginity...

Re: # 7 wait a second! are you suggesting that inispecter Ajmal is our very own Ozer Khalid?

The footnote that claimed this article was non-fiction has been removed.

If this is indeed non-fiction then Chowk Staff has a responsibility to alert the authorities and provide them with all the help to trace this killer.

Hypocrisy and duplicity at its best but no doubt excellent effort to defame Pakistani cultural roots.Studying at a Govt funded university and then going abroad on a Govt funded Higher studies program and yet still finding faults with this society....Way to go...

What are you trying to prove from your OWN SELF MADE imagination of Paki gulz, Infact what could one expects from a person like you (who even dont know the exact meaning of Modesty),,,,,,,,,living in pure land,,,,,trying to expoit the image of all Paki gulz,on the basis of mere a few gulz whom u met as PASS TIME(surely a person looks for one,just like him), Paki gulz are far more Modest than ur expectations, if u dont think so ,keep ur dirt Look on Franchies.............

Re: Wasif2
Dr. Khalid Sohail`s illuminati effect is so not desired. No offense Doctor jee!

Its interesting, that men who have sex with men can chock it up to an inavailability of women. They do not own up to their attraction/lust/love for the person of the same sex. Unless and until you are in an all male prison, that logic is not valid. And even then sex in prisons is more about control, dominance, male egos and rape.

This morality you talk about has little to do with capitalism and more to do with the middle class. This middleclass morality is not a means to assuage the guilt of capitalism, but guilt stemming from so many other pertinent factors such as tradition, religion, gender, money, sexual politik, etc.

hi everybody!
First of all why this ``Stuka`` guy keeps asking if I am Alpha, Bravo, Charlie, Delta or some other gibberishesque alphabet? I am not Charlie. I am not Alpha, Bravo or Delta for that matter. My name is Ahmad Hayat. Same for you ``antihypochrist``...you can be ``anti hippopotamus`` while you are at it...and who by the way is ``Charlie``???
Yeh Charlie Charlie kya hay? Yeh Charlie Charlie...
For the rest, Thanks for the commentry people. Generated not quite the reponse I was hoping for. The interact by ``pseudoiltellect`` is exceptional though.

The sheer amorality of the protagonist expressed rather phlegmatically in the first person had me riveted till the end. Great work, A. Hayat! We look forward to more of your hopefully fictionalised accounts!

fact or fiction.....it had me shell shocked and reading till the very end.

good work!

Yaar Ahmad Hayat, this piece is one of the best, candid, honest and blunt.

# 16

Please read ``How did he know if you will cross Attock``

instead of

``How did you know....``

thanks.

Mr Ahmad Hayat

Plz dont listen to these confused moralists. Capitalism, which all these people love, cherish and strive for, is a system that believes in the survival of the fittest. Morality is an add on thats been invented (by religion or otherwise) to address the guilt that comes from subscribing to an animal system like capitalism.

Your piece, I insist, is most wonderful.

None of the TV channels in Pakistan have a loose real comical standard that they broadcast such news..All public/private tv news are tamed like our desi PTV and in my life I never heard any such news:

`` Both of us followed the news that night quite keenly and the prostitute story came into my knowledge courtesy of a TV channel. ``

They always wrap the news very nicely and such issues only get highlighted on newspapers..

Dear writer first take a grip on deep down neurological and logical roots of Pakistani culture then defame it through your pen then that would be a cutting edge..anyways nice attempt

But Mr Ahmad Hayat, I have two questions.

One, why didnt the baarra shopkeeper alert the post right outside baarra on jamrud road ? Why on Attock sixty five miles away ? And how did you know if you will cross Attock at all or when you will cross it ? I mean, the story doesnt say that you told the shopkeeper that you were from the Punjab...in fact your friend was pakhtoon.

Two, you say

``This Namak Mandi dinner is the sole reason of my being, as you would discover in a few lines space``

Perhaps I missed something, but how was the Namak Mandi dinner the sole reason for your being ? Because that meant you left Peshawar late and could murder conveniently at 2-00 a.m ???

Plz do explain.

I am really amazed at the stupidity of the chowk staff!!! how could they allow such crap to be published?

mr. ahmed hayat..you should have written the age range for the readers of this article..

15-18 yrs of age...sadly even you were older than that..when you did all these stupid things.


If you had sex with those girls you should remember it as a nice experience..you should not look down upon those girls now..they did not do anything more stupid or decadent than what you did..

try and understand that..and try giving women some respect...if you look at this world in such ugly way..you will become and remain ugly inside, the world is full of beautiful people and beutiful things....but people like you obsess on the negative stuff all the time..

one day you will grow up..if you were 22 when this happened..i hope it was not long time back..because if you have grown much older than that and yet have not grown up..god help you.

btw,..do you know those policemen, however obnoxious they might have looked to you..might have had kids waiting at home?...just like you will have..one day ..that is if you show enough respect to some woman so as to marry her!!

Very good piece. I particularly like the casualness and disdain with which it treats ridiculous concepts of capitalist ``morality``. I think murdering two policewalas is an excellent achievement if you can get away with it. Same for smoking charas and fornicating.

Mr Shore, in this land of the pure as in neighbouring unpure India, there is no dearth of people who are not homosexual i.e who do not, by first impulse, get drawn to men ``emotionally`` and ``sexually``, but who will gladly (or after a bit of convincing) have sex with men simply because females are unavailable. Then, if they carry on, most of them will get to like it.... because its actually not so bad. I mean, after all a man loving and (

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ing) a man is the only way a man can love his equal. (Yes i am saying men and women are unequal... not that one is better than the other....but different, unequal and not comparable).

Perhaps these people are bisexual.....i dont know. Many people think most men are bisexual but that

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for obvious reasons (society et al)

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their gay side never comes to the fore.

Perhaps Dr Khalid Sohail will shed light on this.

By the way, Mr Ahmad Hayat, I also like the way you write.

Pakistan Zindabad.

Shore Sahib:

Why are you getting so much suspicious of a valid identity that got unfair banning by the previous E.I.C and where was you when for half of the year I keep on beating to restore my real id...Didnt you follow my long line of protets of months which was duly supported by many authorized, reasonable chowk heads..
And the pathetic, absurd stance of Chowk Staff is an open illegal tampering of other people`s space of freedom...Isn`t it unjust..murdering of an id???

Anyways I should stop my mantra as its like: ``Bhains kay Agay Been Bajana`` ;)


I am amazed myself:

Ya Rub Zamana mujhay mita-ta hai kis liye?
Lauh-e-Jaha.n peh Hurf-e-Mukarar Nahi.n ho.n mai.n :((

By the way are you our very own Khamkhwa?

Re: # 11
Who are you, what have you done with Nadia Zehra?

or are you one of those Born Again Muslims.....

interesting read with no morality issue..looks hadn`t {ever}been in legal set of mind, your upbringing, your social sense of being and the company you owed..anyways most of it is the everyday story of most of Pakistanis who have no commitment with Pakistan and rationality or a cause..

May be in later part of your life when you will realize or come to realize then there would be guilty consequence that would surrender your feelings but since that time your kids and generation ahead of yours had also gone so far that you could only slumber your conscience in unconsciousness..

By the way the clever Khan Sahib who informed about yours in the next checkpost then the Khan Sahib might be having the info about your car, about you people, your finger prints so before making the news he could have made you arrested..Don`t think Pakistani Police a lost cause, they can find you when they want to???

Bravo!!!! Some one speaks the truth about the multifaceted life in LAND OF THE PURE.......

Good read although fraught with hillariously ridiculous assumptions.....

Pakistani girls lose their virginity for a lunch at KFC...........if so, Hey good for them. Better this way than to lose her virginity to a man of their parent`s choosing on the night of their marriage when he rapes her. This virginity is overvalued anyway......The girls have every right to own their own sexuality, their decision to engage in sex is but their own... why they cover themselves in Chadors is to save themselves from harrassment from sexually depraved men and to dodge judgement by the hypocritical morally righteous...

I wont even delve into the author`s treatment of homosexuality between Mohsin and Ajmal...They just liked to f**K each other, but werent homosexual.....wow!

some one is doing another Geeta Roy on Chowk -- my spirits soar when my bottom sore -- to -- my spirits soar when I murder more......:)

I`m shocked too-at the murder.What is a Jazz card anyway?

........ i miss ozer khalid !

i`m just too shocked!!!....

Re: # 4,

Hmm, for a moment I thought it should be Charlie, but hey wait, Charlie cannot be Ahmad Hayat, unless Ahmed Hayat himself is just a cover

Wait a sec, u are actually confessing to murder? BTW, I hope u are not Charlie.

Chowk has turned into a public toilet.Shameless bluntness is being heralded as pop culture and writing style.

“Baita, who Amreeka jaa kur kharab ho jayay ga.”

Typical third class mindset concept of the West or of ``Amreeka`` as if couple of dozen of pole dancers are waiting at the airports to receive every person setting foot on the ``land of the free``.
If you are trying to be funny giving the homo touch to your Pathan character you are only flaunting your racist nature and ignorance.
I sometimes wonder how people transfer their inferiority complexes or inner unfullfilled ``desires`` in the name of just being their true self.Look here i am completely naked before you and i`m not ashamed of it as i`m not a hypocrat like you.Lord have mercy on the English.Be prepared to receive another Hrundi Bakhshi (Peter sellers) ``The Party`` fame.

i m afraid there is nothing to be proud of in all what u did...infact its sumthing to be ashamed of!

Interesting story... kinda creepy though, morality completely vanished eh? just made Pakistan sound like a dreary place filled with evil doers but its a good thing in a way, because these things need to exposed, and have people know that we`re not all the saints we claim to be.

but dude, if this was non-fiction... umm how can you live with yourself knowing you killed two policemen, as bad or good as their lives were to smoke up and laugh, is the need that bad? I hope you recognize that, its not the pot and sex that gives you confidence and brought you out of your nerd shell.