Islam and the Age of Globalization

#275
[What has Dr Akbar Ahmed done to deserve such treatment?]

Ama yaar, if you still have to ask that, clearly you did not read my interacts earlier!

And don’t make the mistake of putting this character in the same league as Dr. Abdus Salam, either! To the best of my knowledge. Salam never went around endorsing Islamic terrorism under the cover of “freedom struggle” – and then go around hogging limelight as “peace maker” when all hell broke loose post-9/11!

You break my heart!

Why are we so cruel to our intellectuals?

We the hollow men
We the stuffed men
Leaning together
Headpiece filled with straw. Alas!
Our dried voices, when
we whisper together
Are quiet and meaningless
As wind in dry grass....

- T S Eliot

What has Dr Akbar Ahmed done to deserve such treatment?
Or is it our collective guilt of envy, to villify yet another great intellect, in the long litany of Noon Meem Raashid, Faiz, Mustafa Zaidi, Qurratul Ain Hyder, Abdus Salaam, and Qadeer Khan to name a few?

I have come a very poignant article ``Pakistan`s treatment of Intellectuals``, written by Dr Masood Haider and posted on Pakistan Link. He convincingly refutes all the so-called allegations against Dr Ahmed. It is on www.PakistanLink.com/Jan2002- Letter & Opinion

``{dear vertical smile, quite an appropriate name for someone blowing thru his backside...
``

Har har, this is hilarious. Vertical Smile, I am not making any judgement on you or your opinions. i just thought it was a hilarious put down.

#272 arjun writes <<< has it ever occured to you that the book buying public isn`t stupid and if they`re not buying your book, it`s because they think you`re full of it? >>>

No AH, nobody buys them because nobody knows they exist. When you publish through non corporate publishers, small time concerns, you don`t get book reviews and talk shows like the ignoramus Ann Coulter gets. Give me equal coverage then talk about why the books don`t sell.

Regarding my articles, people on here can tell the literary merits of them compared to your posts. The only possibility that I haven`t paid much attention to is how come AHs like you are still allowed to post here when your contribution to this site is less than zero, serving bigotry and hatred and defaming your fellow Hindu countrymen and women through your behavior which reflects badly on them compared to anything else it accomplishes. Now I know, in your pathetic existence and your inability to do any work of consequence you blurt out reactionary BS like you did in this post; rather than do that why don`t you get an education and make some effort and you might be able to overcome your bigotry and do some work of consequence.

#269 by masadi on June 23, 2006 3:11pm PT


changed editors my articles have been censored, so far 5 submissions have been blocked,


Your books don`t sell because they suck and your articles aren`t published because they suck...

have you considered that possibility?

has it ever occured to you that the book buying public isn`t stupid and if they`re not buying your book, it`s because they think you`re full of it?

#270, bjk,
Mere bhai - no harm done. I know that you are a very decent person at heart. Anybody who can make hamidm2 sahib wish for the return of ozer khalid has got to have a lot of qualities. Thanks.

#266 Salim

I am sorry about the ``mother of child`` reference - it was not in good taste! I was in bad mood (it is all Hat Pot`s fault!)

Indeed, all the best for the upcoming event!

#263 hamidm writes <<< ``what is the expected return on my investment ?`` >>>

return on investment is not my concern, neither should it be the concern of people who undertake genuine research. Those who write based upon ``return on investment`` come up with garbage like Coulter, and Dsouza. Return on investment or being published by a corporate publishing concern is no criteria of scholarship.

tahmed writes <<< What I want to know is: Who are these people who paid $500 for the Politics of the World According to Masadi? >>>

The books I did do not only deal with ``politics of the world``. Two of the books that account for most of this, have to do with the Quran`s scientific analysis and a comparative study of Islam & Christianity. Whereas sales on the politics books might be low but the material, which is available free online is widely read, do a google search for yourself to find out. Ever since Chowk changed editors my articles have been censored, so far 5 submissions have been blocked, so I should be moving on from here pretty soon. They might have their reasons for censorship but I feel it is unjustified.

I am dismayed to return after a day`s absence
Only to find that this interaction has degenerated into a sad hate-mail posting by some old enemies, no doubt in the bureaucracy, digging up malicious gossip regarding Professor Akbar S Ahmed.
I can understand the India-loving lobby attacking him on issues.
But personal abuse and character-assasination should not be allowed to be posted.
We must all salute Professor Akbar S Ahmed who has the courage to carry on his message of Soft Islam in face of such adversity.
Now this interaction has descended into a sort of ally-pally family chat.
Like someone`s expectant wife ( well at least that is something to cheer about) and parathas in outerspace!
I think it is a disrespect to any article when follow-up interaction becomes totally irrelevant.
I suppose it is time for a closure
As nothing pertaining to Islam in this Age of Globalization is being discussed.

#265: I believe the number you are looking is ``42`` (i.e. the answer to everything in the Universe as Masadi has conclusively deduced while dining on Green Eggs and Parathas in the Restaurant at the Edge of the Universe).

bjk #258 {``Best of luck to the mother of your child on her pregnancy! ``}

bjk bhai,
Thank you very much - my wife also adds her thanks.

#264

tahmed, I have been imploring masadi-bhai to reveal these critical numbers for sometime now. This is a matter of grave importance, I am unable to accurately estimate the coefficients in my ``moronity prevelance correlations`` without this vital data.

What I want to know is: Who are these people who paid $500 for the Politics of the World According to Masadi? This is no idle academic interest - I have this Space Rocket standing on its launch pad in Lahore that I have named the ``Pakistan Memorial`` in honor of Pakistan that I would like to sell them for a real bargain of $299. Once they have bought this, their very own Space Rocket, these people will be able to sit inside the rocket and wait for it to take them on a self-propelled tour of the Solar System!! I would recommend they take with them a copy of Masadi`s book that they purchased, and read it while wearing this great helmet (also available on sale!!) with the logo ``Space Cadet`` emblazoned on it.

Re: # 261

masadi,

``To date, after over a decade and half of work, my books have collected a total royalty of less than $500`` ................please accept my condolences, but have you ever considered the possiblity that what you write might be garbage that no one wants to read ? .......... maybe you should take some lessons from dinesh d`souza or farid zakaria who made tons of money with just one book ..........

........... i really feel bad for you, so i will give you some free advice on productivity : next time you sit down to write ask yourself the question, ``what is the expected return on my investment ?``

so after all these meanderings and #261 posts - what is the conclusion (please help I am confused)
(a) is Akbar ahmed a good guy with sound mind
(b) is there anything worthwhile in what he is doing
(c) Is it ``revival`` or is it ``reform`` - is it an XOR situation or is there an overlap

Hamidm writes in #254 <<< and our own m. asadi (even he has seven web sites trying to sell his 3-4 books) ..........

....... everybody who thinks they can make a buck is writing a book - ann coulter, paris hilton, al franken, bill maher, ............. >>>

Firstly, my websites are not there to sell my books. To date, after over a decade and half of work, my books have collected a total royalty of less than $500, Ann Coulter, selling her garbage, charges more to sneeze in public than that amount. If I was writing books to earn royalties, I would have starved to death by now.

Secondly, AH like you try to rubbish genuine scholarship coming out of social science departments, including sociology and political science, as work of ``charlatans``. You, not only are an ignorant idiot, well documented here on chowk by your posts, you have spent an entire lifetime trying to dupe corporations by giving them some c@ck and bull tale about productivity so you can drain the ever shrinking wages of the workers. You should be ashamed of yourself, you miserable leech.