16% UK Muslims Stand by London Bombers

#102 by zeemax

Neither his wife nor his neighbors nor anyone else in Beeston, Leeds believe that was him, or indeed any of the four were actually involved ... to this day! Nothing was found in their homes, not a single clue, no phone records/credit cards etc revealed anything suspicious. Two of them did visit Pakistan for a couple of months and may have visited some madrassa but certainly did not enroll in any as masive investigations have established (take note ArjunM). No clue where they bought the explosives, assembled them and so forth. All that was found was that Siddique was a community worker as was his mom, and Shehzad Tanweer was a great sportsman who went around in a merc.

Why should we believe this stuff? Because you say so? Where`s the proof?

echoboom,

When you`re wounded and left on Afghanistan`s plains -
And the women come out, to cut up what remains
Then roll to yer rifle, and blow out yer brains
And go to yer God like a soldier!

(Rudyard Kipling ``The Young British Soldier``)

#echoboom

``How? Muslims will follow what is right and correct. In a society where dancing is common, fornication is common, dating is common and adultery is common, how can they accept those things? If, on the other hand, they resist, they are accused of incompatibility.”

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and yet you choose to raise your daughters in Canada??? sharam!!! sharam!!! paisay key itni lalich???

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go back to Pakistan

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Canada does not derseve people like you

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you will be much happy in Pakistan. lanat!

Echo,

(When British history`s worst military catastrophe ended in January 1842 in Afghanistan`s Khoord-Kabul Pass, only one man -- a wounded surgeon on a lame pony -- managed to reach the Kabuli Gate in Jalalabad.

If it hadn`t been kept quiet, the instructive story of the First Anglo- Afghan War (1838-42) might have spared another generation of redcoat colonizers the further humiliation of the Battle of Maiwand. In 1880 in the Second Anglo-Afghan War, an Anglo-Indian force of 2,500 lost 1,000 dead and fled from a rebel army of about 25,000 fearless, howling irregulars. )

Any Sherlock Holmes fans on chowk.

All ardent Sherlockians would doubtless recall the first page of ``A Study in Scarlet`` the first Holmes novel, where Dr. Watson (a surgeon in BIA) informs us that he survived the fatal battle of Maiwand when his faithful deputy Murray put him across a horse. I wonder if he was the same man. But I think ACD mixed up everything the surgeon on the horse from 1842 and the battle of Maiwand of 1880 which is clealy what Watson has in mind- (he became a doctor in 1878)

Regards

Islamic Britain lures top people
Nicholas Hellen and Christopher Morgan

MORE than 14,000 white Britons have converted to Islam after becoming disillusioned with western values, according to the first authoritative study of the phenomenon.

Some of Britain’s top landowners, celebrities and the offspring of senior Establishment figures have embraced the strict tenets of the Muslim faith.

The trend is being encouraged by Muslim leaders who are convinced that the conversion of prominent society figures will help protect a community stigmatised by terrorism and fundamentalism.


......( READ more: very illuminating)

More superb pictures


http://www.radwan.cwc.net/britishmuslims.html

Pictures of British Muslims

http://www.radwan.cwc.net/mrbritmuslims.html

``16% of UK Muslims`` is indeed a disturbing figure. When the survey has covered Muslims, it must have taken into account Muslims of all countries like India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Mideast, Africa etc.

Though this 16% figure is small as compared to overall muslim population, but it runs the danger of gettting into majority figure for Muslims of some particular Nation/Region. For example--16% of total Muslims in UK may constitute 90% of Pakistani Muslims. And assmuing that this 16% were only Pakistanis, then it would mean that 90% Pakistanis support London Bombers.And then its alarming.

You have to take the things in this perspective also.

#102 by Zeemax

Speaking of which... On one occasion, I happened to see the morning and evening same day pictures of myself. I couldn`t conclusively prove that it was the same person in those two photos.

#102 by Zeemax

Though I have this incredible urge to use the best gaaliyan on you, I realize that such an act will not bear any fruitful results. So I will reason this with you in a more polite manner.

Just for a moment let us assume that London bombings were indeed staged. In such a case, do you not think it is possible for atleast a handful of hundreds of officers from multitude of known/unknown agencies working on the case to figure out the truth ? Even if you consider that most of those officers are crooks do you think it is possible for atleast one or two of them to have conscience ? After all, each and every officer in one of those elite intelligence agencies, when he/she initially got hired was most likely an Ultra-patriot Britisher. Do you think all of them turned so subserviant to zionists to such an extent that they are ready to keep their mouth shut to the detriment of their mother land ?
Or may be you think that all of them are such really really dumb people who can`t discover the truth and it probably takes a super genius general civilian like Zeemax to figure out the truth ?

#92 by dullabhatti
#76 Zeemax`s the argument about 7/7 in this post is the worst one ... Zeemax, can you tell his wife that the video was actually of someone else? looks like you know him better than his wife and neighbours..take a single snap from a many minutes movie and present as evidence...ignore the audio, text, claims, voice, context everything...just pick one particular pose/shot that in your own minds supports your argument ... pathetic.

Neither his wife nor his neighbors nor anyone else in Beeston, Leeds believe that was him, or indeed any of the four were actually involved ... to this day! Nothing was found in their homes, not a single clue, no phone records/credit cards etc revealed anything suspicious. Two of them did visit Pakistan for a couple of months and may have visited some madrassa but certainly did not enroll in any as masive investigations have established (take note ArjunM). No clue where they bought the explosives, assembled them and so forth. All that was found was that Siddique was a community worker as was his mom, and Shehzad Tanweer was a great sportsman who went around in a merc.

I am still waiting for some critique of my specific comments re the photographs. These are all in the public domain and the single snap was the only one released from the video. It is however of enough quality to clearly show the person. I don`t have any audio for comparison. The claims, context etc is all BS which even shows Al-Zawahiri in the same video while even the British believe there was no connection. Al-Qaida Productions Inc is working in overdrive.

But is it really the same person as the one in the middle and left? Does he look younger, thinner and with a straight nose? Not even counting the stark difference in the thoughtful, droopy demeanour of the real guy ...

Waiting .... waiting ...

#97 by swarrier

`` Now I don`t deny that hatred for Muslims does not exist in India. ``

do you feel there is any rational reason for a not-so-religious backward caste hindu like me to hate muslims ?

Given that the some ( or majority ??? ) of the London bombers were on government welfare (i.e.,, Fed by taxpayers ), it is amazing to wonder about their mentality. Is their behavior akin to drinking milk from mother`s breast and then punching the same breast until it bleeds ?

Another ``patriotic`` act by ``patriotic`` british muslim men.

The ``Grooming`` of young white girls for prostitution by Muslim men with Pedophile tendencies...

A Namak haram ``community`` of men ....

Echoboom sahib,

You are feeling very happy that many kaffirs are converting to Islam, I hope you will not be too upset if a few Muslims convert the other way in Pak.

Regards

Re: # 91
Tahmed
I don`t read the Hindustan Times and I`m a little surprised that it has a larger circulation than the Indian Express. I thought it was a Delhi-centric paper having never read it while in Bombay.
If you read The Times, The Hindu or magazines like the Outlook they don`t go out of their way to picture Indian Muslims in a bad light. During the Bombay riots I remember the newspapers were pretty even about who was killed. I`d say the same thing about Godhra. It was the Indian media that showed it as it took place. Now when you look at what is happening abroad the Indian newspapers will report news that is likely to show their allies in a good light and their enemies in a bad way. Al Qaeda is no supporter of India so any news about them or their allies is going to be shown in a bad light by the Indian media. Obviously the media is not a bunch of angels either so each newspaper will report things the way their management looks at it.

Now I haven`t been on chowk for a long time but I do think that both sides Indian and Pakistani do have some interesting individuals with several chips on their shoulders. But in reality few people in India wake up with the idea of destroying all Muslims and Pakistanis.

Few Indian Hindus are really bothered by the sufferings of people of Indian origin in say Mauritius, Guyana etc be they Hindu or not. No Indian has yet gone up in flames because say the Fijian prime Minister of Indian origin was kicked out by George Speight etc. Nor do Indians blow up a few buses because the Hindu Nepali monarch is threatened by a bunch of Maoist rebels. So they find it difficult to understand why a few folks should blow up buses/trains in London/Madrid/Valencia because an Arab group that cannot topple a monarchy in an Arab land calls for global war against the West.

Now I don`t deny that hatred for Muslims does not exist in India. I`ve seen enough of that. But I am sure hatred for Hindus does exist in Pakistan, just the fact that there are enough Pakistanis itching to come to Kashmir and fight shows that. That is the reality. Of course such feelings are not justified. The point is can one see each other as individuals instead of a faceless mob. That is unlikely to happen as long as there are ghettos. That is the tragedy of it.

Lastly my reading of your friend and antagonist Arjun is that he is definitely anti Pakistan, and anti jihadi. I don`t see him being anti Muslim. I haven`t seen him justify either the Godhra attacks or the Bombay riots like some other folks. Not since I`ve been here.

Anyway, longish post and maybe not very sensible either but , nothing is really very clear cut.