The Death of a Nawab

Nawab Bugti life is a conundrum, he was brutal with his opponents, fiercely tribalistic but did he deserve to be killed in this manner with no trial that is debatable. Pak Govt has no qualms in settling issues with the tribal chiefs of Fata yet have no patience with nationalist, this has been unfortunately Pakistan;s history. Killing of Bugti will always be controversial and may prove to be Musharraf`s biggest mistake. People have short memories and live in their short term successes, they forget what happened to Indira Gandhi, Mujeeb ur Rehman both of these leaders died at the hands of their own people.

Re: # 65

Cant agree more. Musharraf is not accountable to anyone. That`s the key point. He gets away with anything he does.

People are used to this kind of dictatorship for 2-3 generations. People should get inspiration from Nepal and Philippines, where the powerful King and elected President were removed by the power of people. Or else take inspiration from Mao and let Fahim of PPP, MMA of Baluchistan + NWFP, MQM and PML-N reps forget their differences (since PML is spineless and mushponsored) & march with people from all villages & towns of Pakistan seize Islamabad and send him back to barracks get rid of this monster Musharraf, install an interim govt followed by general elections. Dont guillotine him but let him enjoy his retirement perks. Can these politicians do that?????

There`d be some genuine solution to these problems like Balochistan and AQ.

zeemax,

here is the link to the article you were asking:

http://select.nytimes.com/search/restricted/article?res=FB0710F834540C708DDDAD0894DE404482

``Estimates by Indian intelligence officials and Maoist leaders suggest that the rebel ranks in India have swelled to 20,000, though the number is impossible to verify. One senior Indian intelligence official estimated that Maoists exert varying degrees of influence over a quarter of India`s 600 districts.``

also separatist violence has recently flared up all over our neighbourhood in countries with varied political systems such as democratic/secular/buddhist/dictatorship etc. the most serious fighting recently has occurred in s.l. which has been a democracy all its life and the fight is between hindu tamils and the buddhist sinhalese.

kurds in turkey have also upped the ante. there were a series of bomb blast in turkey last weekend in which if i am not mistaken, around 20 british tourist were hurt badly. kurds have also been very active in iran and kurdish bases in iran were recently attacked by joint turkish/iranian petrol.

i guess the biggest difference between violence in our neighbouring countries and in pak is that violence in pak has been on a very limited scale. yet the secular neocon wannabe pakistanis pretend that its the most serious issue on earth. the other interesting aspect is that no where else but in pakistan will you see pakistani citizens heaping praise on a man who openly boasted about killing pakistani army jawans. in comparison, in turkey, you would be thrown in jail if you were to express any support for abdullah occalan - the separatist kurdish leader rotting in a turkish prison. i guess this explains why turks lorded over a huge empire for nearly 500 years while people in our part of the world took their shalwar down for any two bit general who came across from central or west asia.

#67 by faisaluno

Thanks. But I was really interested in the Indian insurgencies. I believe it is in 16 provinces. Do you have details? Which province is which insurgency? And particularly the Maoist victory in sidelining the King (he`ll be exiled or otherwise eliminated soon) upon Indian Maoists?

#66 by VRV

``else take inspiration from Mao and let Fahim of PPP, MMA of Baluchistan + NWFP, MQM and PML-N reps forget their differences``

Trying to re-live some bad Indian dream? Mao and Fahim? You show your poor knowledge abt Pakistan and then try and write stupid things...It is a good idea to learn a few things before you run your mouth...Fahim and Mao?......You are khasi_nuts...

#69 by HP

Yeah that`s the problem with low-class ignorant hindus ...

Re: # 69

HP,

I didn`t write this for you, khasi dickhead! Your parents diden`t teach you basic manners, you maggot!

I didn`t compare Mao with Fahim. I asked the leaders in Pakistan to take inspiration from Mao, you khasi dickhead.

Is that clear, you uncivilised Khasi?

Now the macaca gets mad. Inspiration from Mao for what?????

Re: # 70

Zeejadi,

I am not a Tweedledee like you. I am happy about my class. BTW, I am familiar with your class by now. Thanks but no thanks,

Re: # 67
i hope this violence doesn`t escalate because british property companies have invested billions along the coast, in villas,condo`s. recently turkey was becoming the playground of brits.

Re: # 67

Faisal,

Past thirty years plus have been a bull run for the mullahs in Pakistan whereas secularists/nationalists have been harrassed and hounded from its inception. After 50years of constant indoctrination Pak establishment is trying re-engineer another concept for Pakistan which requires the bacha kucha secularists. And that too is unacceptable to our masses....

zeemax, i will dig up that article later.

also tomorrow is the turkish victory day when turks kicked out the europeans after wwi. europeans wanted to do to turkey, what they had done to the middle east which is to divide it into chotay tukrays. had they succeeded, istanbul today would be a greek city just like jerusalem today is a yahoodi city. this fact is important to remember because goras still cant bear to see strong muslim countries. thats why two bit leaders like akbar bugti are potrayed as martyrs in neocon media like nytimes. its precisely for this reason that kurds have been actived in turkey after an islamic govt came to power in turkey and the govt stopped bowing in front of goras.

Re: # 72

Who looks more closer to a macaca?
Who else, Pervez Musharraf. Pl compare.

You get leaders you deserve the most. No doubt. Like people, like rulers!

I was talking of the combination of all major political parties trying something Mao did in the past, not necessarily the same comparision in all respects.....dimwits need clarifications, unfortunately!

Since Benazir and Nawaz are outlaws, they need some guys from their parties... people came to my mind, I gave... thats all...

BTW... your Tweedledum (who else!) is with you......?

Your leaders are your headache, not ours... good luck to you and your kind of leader (macaca?).

#77 by VRV

So you are saying you had good intentions but poor knowledge.

Any inspiration from Mao leads to a different conclusion. Obviously, you don’t understand politics or would not have come out with such a simplistic scheme.

I try to explain it to simple-minded people like you that it took India 200 years to get rid of Brits. How many political alliances you saw during that time? It took Hindus 800 years to get freedom. How many Rajas put their armies together to get rid of afghans or Persians?

Political conflicts don’t have simple solutions.

#74 by aslam644

Do you want turkey to be the playground of the brits?