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The Seventh Wave - Pakistan’s Chance to Achieve Escape Velocity

Imran Mustafa September 3, 2006

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#74 Posted by masadi on September 7, 2006 8:46:34 pm
GT writes <<< Is there life in some location in the universe that is not our planet: the earth? >>>

Since the question is off topic, I will make only one post on it here and chowk-staff is more than welcome to erase it, since unlike my other posts this is off-topic and since whenever the Quran is mentioned the mirasis on here, the dumbest among them have to expand discussions beyond absurdity, in which I am not interested, so ONE post. Ok, to your question,

If you seek empirical verification of life in the universe other on earth, it has not been verified. If you seek probability analysis in seeking the answer than it is more than probable that it does. That is the extent of human knowledge on the subject to date. If I have missed something please enlighten me.

Regarding your 2nd question, <<< What does the Koran say about the answer to the previous question? More importantly, why does it say so? >>>

Why the Quran says what it says is an easy one to answer concerning this question. The Quran claims to come from the creator of the universe, the creator of life, so if he created life in areas other than on earth he should know about it, and it so happens that the Quran claims that there is life other than on earth, in a very interesting aya 42:29



The verse is talking about the skies and the earth, and note the word `feehima` i.e. in them, there being `daaba` or animals (which includes humans). In fact there are a couple of other verses whose references I am unable to locate at this time (don`t have the index with me). Hope that helped with what you were looking for.
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#73 Posted by GT on September 7, 2006 7:09:47 pm

masadi,

behram claims this is a topic involving hard science, you claim that it involves social sciences as well. Hence, in line with chowk policy, since I am faced with a social as well as scientific dilemma, I think this is a forum to ask you a question that my child asked me a couple of weeks back:

Is there life in some location in the universe that is not our planet: the earth?

To this questions, I might like to add a question given the claims in your webpage (this question completely deviates from the topic and is hence against chowk policy):

What does the Koran say about the answer to the previous question? More importantly, why does it say so?

By the way, I am serious here.

Regards
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#72 Posted by masadi on September 7, 2006 1:39:12 pm
#70 behram, please stay on topic, if that is not too hard for a mirasi like yourself.

In addition to #69 to chowk-staff

p.s: I am sorry if you feel like I am giving you a hard time on this, but this kind of erasure and personal bias is not healthy for a site of this nature. thanks
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#71 Posted by Behram1 on September 7, 2006 1:38:52 pm

Dear friends,

It appears that the best route for expatriate Pakistanis to take is the electrical engineering transfer of knowledge from outside Pakistan into inside. This could be achieved in several modes.

To-Date, for varied reasons Pakistan is not ready to get into building a $3B FAB. However, Pakistan could provide adequate top paid design engineers to engineer new and coming technology and being creative. Existing electrical engineering curricula in universities should be enhanced to provide this knowledge. This Pakistan-centric enterprise could make use of the available pool of talented design engineers around the world.

Day-to-day operation of this enterprise and strategic design business development should be left to the engineers. Some public/private partnership could help, such as the federal R&D funding (if at all suitable in the Pakistani context). Design house parks (similar to such places already available in Hong Kong) could be established. Tax incentive could be provided to international small design houses to open shops inside these Pakistani design parks. And we must keep, anybody and everybody who has anything to do with the Fauji Foundation completely out.

Respectfully submitted,
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#70 Posted by Behram1 on September 7, 2006 1:35:20 pm
Re: # 69 by masadi on September 7, 2006 1:19pm PT

Dear Masadi:

Cry baby, uh!

Respectfully submitted,
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#69 Posted by masadi on September 7, 2006 1:19:36 pm
Dear Chowk staff,

Regarding my posts #59 and #62 that you have erased, they were made in response to the charge that I was posting off topic when I talked about the socioeconomic aspect of development. I had related that to excerpts from the author`s article in those two posts explaining how relevant my discussion was, how can that now be off topic? Therefore your erasure is not justified, since mine was the first post you erased it tells me that the other erasures were just colletral damage to cover up your unjustified erasure of my posts. I recommend you restore my posts, since it merely reveals your bias in the issue and an abuse of power.

Sincerely,

masadi.
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#68 Posted by avkrishna on September 7, 2006 11:09:15 am
I`m afraid, a well intentioned but an infeasible/unadvaisable proposal by the author.

Gaining and maintaining a foothold in high tech is a laudable goal for any developing country.. But it is probably not necessary in the short term, esp for a country like Pakistan which does not have a strong intellectual base (I might be wrong here) to support it. The country is better off investing in the areas where they have a better chance and invest massively in all levels of education. Then maybe you can join the next wave of high tech...

Specifically to the issue of Semiconductor industry, you have well entrenched players (Far east countries in Manufacturing and countries like India, Israel and other players in Design) to compete for business..

Rgds,
Avkrishna
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#67 Posted by Behram1 on September 7, 2006 10:38:59 am

Dear Chowk Staff:

Thank you for doing the job well done. As you can see, you have deleted 7 posts which were deflecting to other areas, (at least 10% of the posts on this site).

Please always guide us to respond to the posted article.

Respectfully submitted,
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#66 Posted by chowkstaff on September 7, 2006 10:09:22 am
Last few posts are filtered because they are off subject. Please use this space for discussing the article topic.
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