Musharraf Spilling the Beans—Why Now?

Dear Hamid:

I just came back from a client`s meeting and knowing that I am not a muslim, someone asked me to verify that for a fasting muslim to masturbate voluntarily would make their fasting null and void, but that it is okay to masturbate involuntarily. This person was asking me how is involuntary masturbation possible? Can you shed some light on this one?

Would remain much obliged.

Respectfully submitted,

Hamidm #628
Yes I agree it is a silly discussion. Why or how Peemax (and Masadi) are somehow finding everything as ``Islam wins`` is beyond my comprehension.

Re: # 626

friend ....

...... i don`t want to get into this silly discussion about who won or who lost, but this is the answer zeemax will probably give you : islam zinda hota hai, har karbala kay baad ............

......... please don`t ask me what that means, ask masadi - he is an expert on the masada complex that seems to afflict us ............

Hello respected co-chowkies (and one utterly and completely respected chowkie),

As you can see I am back after some crisis management for my employer organisation. Spoke to a number of people about the views of the ``utterly and completely``. Their reaction was similar to that of students I have narrated in my earlier posts. The ``utterly and completely`` does not have many followers is Pakistan. You can carry out your own sample studies (unbiased random samples if you please) and arrive at the same cconclusion.

Have managed to read all the intervening posts.



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Respected harish_hyd,

chalo maanaa that a lot of people believe that Pakistan lost the ``battle`` and if you look at it from the perspective of the ``retaking of mountain peaks``, it probably did.

chalo yeh bhee maanaa that Mush. did a volte face on Kargil by acknowledging it as ``army`s finest hour`` after denying army involvement for many years.

but a casualty ratio of 10:1 in favour of Pakistan appears reasonably acceptable in view of 4:1 & 8:1 accepted by Indians and 100:1 claimed by ISPR. ISPR figures are absurdly high. Indian figures are more realistic. Lekin 10-20% fudging toh sub -continent mein chalti hi hai..

But Sonia Gandhi is ``mounty``, HA HA HAHA !! LOL!!!
Respectfully submitted,

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Respected Zeemax,

Pl do not defend Taliban.

Respectfully submitted.
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Utterly & Completely,


Aap phir paajaame sey baahar nikal rahey hain !!!


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Respected Behram,

Your views appear sensible siometimes. At other times they do not. You are too cryptic most of the time.


Respectfully submitted
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Dear Hamidm & Tahmed

Thanks for taking care of the ``utterly & completely`` while I was gone.

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Let us all try to interact with some young People(who are just not interested in ancient heritages, Quranic or Puranic traditions, trauma of Partition, or any of the Pak wars with India). Let me tell you it is a great refreshing change. These people represent hope for the entire sub continent. They are intgelligent (not merely code-coolies) and more importantly, objective and forward looking.

Respectfully submitted.

Peemax # various

Are you complete idiot? For 3 months Pakistani army chief and everyone was denying presence of Pakistani army. Than they started pleading with US to save their a-$-$. Than they ran leaving their corpses behind. And now you claim that to be a victory. I guess your AAK signing surrender document in 71 was also a victory for Pakistanis.

why i go to starbucks every day - an inspiration for masadi

by: Howard Schultz
Founder of Starbucks

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I grew up in federally subsidized housing in Brooklyn. I was part of a generation of families that dreamed about the American dream. My dad had a series of blue-collar jobs. An uneducated man, he was kind of beaten by the system. He was a World War II veteran who had great aspirations about America, but his dream was not coming true.

At the age of seven, I came home one day to find my dad sprawled on the couch in our two-bedroom apartment in a full-leg cast; he had fallen on the job and broken his leg. This was way before the invention of Pampers, and he worked as a delivery driver for cloth diapers. He hated this job bitterly, but on this one day, he wished he had it back. In 1960 in America, most companies had no workers` compensation and no hospitalization for a blue-collar worker who had an accident. I saw firsthand the plight of the working class.

masadi,

.......... everyone knows why african americans have a high poverty rate - if you and al sharpton want to live in denial, it is your choice .......

............ let me give you a simple example based on my 30 years of first-hand experience in the business world (as opposed to drawing biased conclusions from raw census data)

........ until recently, for the last 20 plus years companies would hire anyone who could walk, chew gum and write code - they hired hundreds of thousands of macacas and other species that could spell j2ee, BUT i have seem maybe 3 or 4 african american programmers ..... why ?...... simple - even though programming pays fairly well, it is hard coolie work .......... similarly in the consulting business which demands that fresh associates work 100 plus hours a week to make the cut, i have not seen any, not one, african american (lots of macacas are killing themselves to make manager and most of them die because they cannot handle the liquor after a fourteen hour day - natural slection at work)........ trust me on this because over the last thirty years i have made the rounds of most major IT companies and consulting firms ....... and many many years ago i used to recruit for an IT company that would hire a syphillitic one-legged whore if she could spell cobol and was given specific instructions to make our eoe quota - but i could never find a black man who was willing to make the sacrifice ( once or twice i did find a black woman) .......... as any black woman would tell you she would love to have a bmw (black man working) but they are hard to find ...........................

.............african americans suffer from this sense of victimhood and entitlement that keeps them mired in misery and poverty - or maybe, like you, they love cheese ..............

hat tip: antiwar.com....

warning...only click if you have a broadband connection....

...contd...

.........and how many were devoured by vultures ... lol ...

.........lying macaca ...

dumbass_macaca .... says:

...official figures...

Abey dumbass, according to your own Parful Bidwai_macaca writing for Khaleej Times:

``The Indian army ``recovered 249 bodies, of which only five were accepted by Pakistan, and the total Pakistani casualties of 725 killed included 45 officers and 68 Special Service Group personnel.``

Of-course you can discount the macaca version by a factor of 1/3 hence my figure of 500.

Now answer please:

...how many bodies of Pak soldiers did macacas retrieve and offered to return to Pak?

ROTFLMAO!!!!!

#619 by zeemacaca

Approx 500 Pak Army including Mujahideen were martyred.

Abay Bhand, give me official figures of the macacas killed. No Alibaba fables like the one recounted to you by the Paki `Major`...Got it? No Alibaba fables please..LOL!

#618 dumbass_macaca

Approx 500 Pak Army including Mujahideen were martyred. None were left behind except a few who were killed in the withdrawal and bodies could not be retrieved. None were left on the heights etc.

Now your answer ...

...how many bodies of Pak soldiers did macacas retrieve and offered to return to Pak?

ROTFLMAO!!!!!

#617 by zeemacaca

.... how many bodies of Pak soldiers did macacas retrieve and offered to return to Pak?

Abay Bhand, first tell us how many Paki macacas were killed. Then we can use Madarssah math and multiply that by 5 to arrive at the Indian casualties. Then I`ll tell you how many macacas were returned to Bhandland and how many were devoured by vultures...LOL!

#615 by dumbass_macaca,

....they didn`t need any in the first place, having abandoned their dead....

Hahahaha ... rotflmao .... hey dumbass ... now google for it .... how many bodies of Pak soldiers did macacas retrieve and offered to return to Pak?

Hahahaha .... now don`t jump up and down ... give a definitive answer ... LoL

#609 by behram1

Behram,

I thought the argument was about whether Taliban won or not and whether they are responsible for the current state Afghanistan is in, and not about whether or not the Taliban`s worldview is right or wrong. Your response does not address the argument but instead goes into the black/white `evil forces of darkness`; morality of governance; women`s rights and stuff ... pure faux TV stuff ..

Listen, you may have read a lot about Afghanistan, but I know a bit more than that about that country since Zahir Shah`s time so please grant me that!

You say: When are we going to take control of our own faith, and start moving forward in the community of nations?

Name me a single Islamic country which is moving forward without either completely prostituting itself (UAE) or which hasn`t confronted USA (Malaysia). Any other?

My friend, there`s no `community of nations` for the weak, but only of the strong (i.e. G7, G8, G10 etc ...). So Muslims have to get strong before they`re out of this inferior rest of the `also-rans` of the G77 lot ... To do that they`ll have to confront G7-10. No other choice.

Regards.

#613 by bhand zeemacaca

Hay dumbass, Pak did not run out of coffins ... macacaland did; and macacaland is 5 times bigger than Pak; leading to the only possible conslusion that macaca casualties were at-least 5 times larger (as a rule of thumb) if not even more; than those of Pak`s.

Of course I can understand why Bhandland didn`t run out of coffins..they didn`t need any in the first place, having abandoned their dead macacas to rot on the hills, while the surviving macacas like the great Paki `Major` (who regaled you fools with Alibaba tales of how Indians were being shot by their officers) fled..LOL!

This is hilarious..India is 5 times bigger means so casualties were 5 times greater? ROTFL!!!! Which Madarssah did you go to abay zeemacaca? You`re touching new heights in stupidity every time you open your mouth...does your son know you`re so stupid? If he does, I can bet he`s ashamed of you. I sure would be if I were him.