Karamatullah K Ghori September 26, 2006
#1 Posted by bjkumar on September 26, 2006 9:02:25 am
Only the most deluded of my Pakistani friends would actually believe that Mushy’s u-turn after September 11 was done out of the goodness of his heart and not because he was ready to relieve himself in pants in anticipation of the impending U.S. rage.
Get real, ladies and gentlemen!
#2 Posted by Ranjit on September 26, 2006 9:27:49 am
I really pity the people of Pakistan. They are ruled by a dictator whose boots are on their necks. This guy tramples on everyone, bombs and kills political rivals like Bugti, launches stupid adventures like Kargil, behaves like a lapdog to Bush and finally cashes in on all of this fiasco with a multi-million dollar book deal. In other words, he rapes the country completely and makes money off that rape. Poor ol` Jinnah!! The old man must be rolling in his grave as his dream gets transformed into a complete nightmare!!
Next time, if zeemax boasts about muslims being proud and resisiting occupation, I have only one word for him - Musharraf!!
#3 Posted by okhla99 on September 26, 2006 9:36:04 am
Musharraf is an intelligent man who has consistently taken, what he has felt, to be the right decision for Pakistan. Lies can be pointed out, Volte-faces and backstabbings galore but there can be absolutely no doubt about his patriotism.
He knows that in Pakistan, a general has to hold on to Power till death. No waiting till retirement for autobiographies. And if a little theatrics can sell the book, why not....
#4 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on September 26, 2006 9:46:18 am
I like Mushy because he appears to be genuine. Anybody who can speak while making a stupid face like him can`t be pretentious.
I also like him because he is less harmful than the tried and proven assholes like BB and NS. He is by far the least evil of the four military dictators we have had. Also, he has managed to steer Pakistan`s precarious existence and volatile economy quite capably.
What I don`t like about him is his obvious inferiority complex (especially when facing goras), his stupid and thoughless remarks (visas for raped women), and his use of ``I`` instead of ``we.`` However, what I detest most about Mushy is his inability to get a decent tailor for his Sehba`s clothes. She looks horrible in those shalwar suits - at least he could buy her a travel iron.
I also like him because he is less harmful than the tried and proven assholes like BB and NS. He is by far the least evil of the four military dictators we have had. Also, he has managed to steer Pakistan`s precarious existence and volatile economy quite capably.
What I don`t like about him is his obvious inferiority complex (especially when facing goras), his stupid and thoughless remarks (visas for raped women), and his use of ``I`` instead of ``we.`` However, what I detest most about Mushy is his inability to get a decent tailor for his Sehba`s clothes. She looks horrible in those shalwar suits - at least he could buy her a travel iron.
#5 Posted by nasah on September 26, 2006 11:07:13 am
kudos to ambassador Ghori -- one of the most succinct eloquent well written political analysis that I have read on Chowk from Mr. Ghori -- I agree with the conclusion of Mr. Ghori – spilling the beans in 2006 by the cowardly lion was due to none of the above high fluting reasons.
It merely was at best a cheap shot at quick money-making -- in an undignified act of a dignified dignitary -- selling his prematurely written book at a very serious news conference. -- about a snarled story -- that is still unfolding -- that may yet have a messy ending.....
it appears in matters diplomatic -- like his school principal Mr. Bush`s (``I believe Mushrraf`` -- the boy is not lying ) -- pupil Musharraf`s senses `n sensibilities -- egged on by pure GREED -- have been numbed for verbal improprieties -- perhaps due to excessive use of alcohol.......leading to a recurring problems of Foor-in-Mouth disease....for both of them -- at public forums.
It merely was at best a cheap shot at quick money-making -- in an undignified act of a dignified dignitary -- selling his prematurely written book at a very serious news conference. -- about a snarled story -- that is still unfolding -- that may yet have a messy ending.....
it appears in matters diplomatic -- like his school principal Mr. Bush`s (``I believe Mushrraf`` -- the boy is not lying ) -- pupil Musharraf`s senses `n sensibilities -- egged on by pure GREED -- have been numbed for verbal improprieties -- perhaps due to excessive use of alcohol.......leading to a recurring problems of Foor-in-Mouth disease....for both of them -- at public forums.
#6 Posted by iron_mask on September 26, 2006 11:23:25 am
Re: # 5 serious news conference - you must be joking nasah!
Mushy seemed to be taking the piss at the conference and what better way than to turn it in a PR exercise.
Mushy seemed to be taking the piss at the conference and what better way than to turn it in a PR exercise.
#7 Posted by iron_mask on September 26, 2006 11:25:14 am
#6 by taking the piss - I mean he was pulling the leg, he considered it a a joke and was having a laugh at our expence etc etc.
explanation just in case I get chopped at one knee by the chowk-staff!
A big thank you for rescinding the sentences - to chwok staff and all those who pleaded my case!
explanation just in case I get chopped at one knee by the chowk-staff!
A big thank you for rescinding the sentences - to chwok staff and all those who pleaded my case!
#8 Posted by parthaab on September 26, 2006 12:21:20 pm
By and large, I do agree with the points made by the author, but for the fact that he has a personal axe to grind, for being a neglected diplomat after Musharaf came to power.
Would you rather believe Pak President Musharrafs claim that the US had threatened to bomb Pakistan to the stone ages, OR Bushs claim, denying any such episode?
Who should we believe?
Musharaf certainly seems more believable than Bush or Armitage.
His biography throws light on some of the very important issues facing world politics.
What if Bush simply threatens to kill Musharaf himself next? And are nt these postures dangerous, when you think these two religions hate each other anyway? Is this anyway to conduct international diplomacy or crave for dominating other nations?
Would you rather believe Pak President Musharrafs claim that the US had threatened to bomb Pakistan to the stone ages, OR Bushs claim, denying any such episode?
Who should we believe?
Musharaf certainly seems more believable than Bush or Armitage.
His biography throws light on some of the very important issues facing world politics.
What if Bush simply threatens to kill Musharaf himself next? And are nt these postures dangerous, when you think these two religions hate each other anyway? Is this anyway to conduct international diplomacy or crave for dominating other nations?
#9 Posted by parthaab on September 26, 2006 12:28:23 pm
http://www.hindu.com/2006/09/25/stories/2006092501611000.htm
#10 Posted by Urstruly on September 26, 2006 1:00:06 pm
If there were no consequences for telling the truth, no body would have ever lied. Thta is the situation that can describe Mushraf`s relationship with Pakistan. IN proverbial language this situation can be described in Musharaf`s words is ``yeh ghanta hay, iss ko ukhaar sakte ho to ukhaar lo``. This shameless a-whole has no fear of God or His people.
In relation to US, what Musharaf says is Amaerica`s message to the rest of the world, from Musharaf`s mouth, as to what would happen to a weak nation if it didn`t tow American diktat. It is just as simple as that. That is exactly the reason Chavez does what he does, in order to prevent an assassination or coup attempt by Americans or a direct assault. In other words American threat to the peace of world is very real and extremely vicious.
#11 Posted by rf786 on September 26, 2006 1:16:08 pm
Dear Author,
Has any working or retired Govt functionary shared their persoal gains with their people? History would suggest otherwise, so why sud the general be judged differently?
Iraq (Tariq Aziz) example actually supports Mushy`s decision, had the meglomaniacs in Iraq listened, history of ME may have been very different. Then again, they had friends like yourself as willing admirers.
Has any working or retired Govt functionary shared their persoal gains with their people? History would suggest otherwise, so why sud the general be judged differently?
Iraq (Tariq Aziz) example actually supports Mushy`s decision, had the meglomaniacs in Iraq listened, history of ME may have been very different. Then again, they had friends like yourself as willing admirers.
#12 Posted by Behram1 on September 26, 2006 1:21:49 pm
On every turn, or it seems, Musharraf keeps on claiming that Pakistan is not a bannana republic. Why? Is he sending a message that the paindoos in Islamabad have a firm grip on the political situation in Pakistan? The huffing and puffing General has no idea how the world is moving in a direction that is totally beyond his comprehension.
Maybe, Pakistan is not a bannana republic. Could it be that Pakistan is just a ``kuddoo`` republic? or a ``baigan`` republic?
Maybe, Pakistan is not a bannana republic. Could it be that Pakistan is just a ``kuddoo`` republic? or a ``baigan`` republic?
#13 Posted by pseudointellect on September 26, 2006 1:22:36 pm
All these people accusing the President of easily giving in to Americans, i am sure must never have heard a cracker exploding in their life.They should be taken to some military exercise to feel how does a hundred pounder sounds when exploding at top of your heads.I`m sure all of their bookish and wordly heroism and bravado will be shaken like their bodies.And that might also prove a turning point in their war mongering and political diplomacy skills.
Being aware of one`s size and abilities is called ``situation awareness`` and a good decision by President choosing to be an ally than victim in this war on terror.Aren`t the images from Iraq not enough to open your eyes.Who is paying the price?
As far as making money by selling book is concerned i think it is far better and nobler than selling country assets and making money out of kickbacks and commissions.
Being aware of one`s size and abilities is called ``situation awareness`` and a good decision by President choosing to be an ally than victim in this war on terror.Aren`t the images from Iraq not enough to open your eyes.Who is paying the price?
As far as making money by selling book is concerned i think it is far better and nobler than selling country assets and making money out of kickbacks and commissions.
#14 Posted by jang on September 26, 2006 1:56:09 pm
the general musharaff has played a good no-trump game given the hand of cards dealt to him. he will go down in the history as a successful politician. he clevely made political deals with the mullahs and MQM and brought stability and even got cricket back to karachi. he is not done yet, while he maybe a butt of jokes, he is prolly a very respected person in the company of world leaders.
#15 Posted by arjun2 on September 26, 2006 2:06:02 pm
Why now? I can think of 7 reasons..The first of which is a 1 and the other 6 are zeroes..
#16 Posted by arjun2 on September 26, 2006 2:10:11 pm
#10 by Urstruly on September 26, 2006 1:00pm PT
In mushy`s book, he says the CIA paid Pakistan in cash for turning over AQ detainees..how does it feel knowing that your tax $$ were used to buy the patsies sent to gitmo..and most of the people in gitmo were patsies...
In mushy`s book, he says the CIA paid Pakistan in cash for turning over AQ detainees..how does it feel knowing that your tax $$ were used to buy the patsies sent to gitmo..and most of the people in gitmo were patsies...
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