Karamatullah K Ghori September 26, 2006
#65 Posted by iron_mask on September 27, 2006 6:09:48 am
for Tahmed32
Left a message for you on UP on my thread!
Left a message for you on UP on my thread!
#66 Posted by tahmed32 on September 27, 2006 6:13:45 am
#61 What arjun highlights as a presumed weakness, is to my mind a strength on musharraf`s part - he came across as honest when he noted what seemed like an error in his book. Only a total nincompoop would think that the general would sit down a write the book himself, and musharraf is smart enough to realize he does not need to pretend otherwise.
#68 Posted by arjun2 on September 27, 2006 6:33:18 am
#58 by Urstruly on September 27, 2006 5:53am PT
you have it backwards...It`s actually your very generous tax $$ that are paying for my lifestyle..and it`s only going to get better..i heard on the news this morning that the DoD budget is going to be a record ~450billion $..
you have it backwards...It`s actually your very generous tax $$ that are paying for my lifestyle..and it`s only going to get better..i heard on the news this morning that the DoD budget is going to be a record ~450billion $..
#69 Posted by tahmed32 on September 27, 2006 6:36:55 am
arjun: Your ``life style`` eh? :-) You mean like sitting before the keyboard all day long, clicking from one website to another? I know trees in Pakistan that have a better lifestyle.
#70 Posted by strongman_dick on September 27, 2006 6:37:24 am
Actually all of you are on the wrong track.
The real story is that of Mushy and MMSingh (please note: Mushy provided MMSingh with tips on how not to be follically challenged!) and the hand shake in Havana. Ofcourse over Cuban Cigars hand rolled by special women.
The real conspiracy theory is this: India and Pakistan elite have created this together so the population could have something to discuss rather than roti, kapda aur makaan. Mushy slipped up, since he was not part of the gang and hence kargil. he took the propaganda way too seriously and did something he shouldnot have. India made him sweat for a few years. And viola you have Havana, cigars and all. Today in the UN Pakistan has dropped Kashmir like a hot potato. Its talking about how Pashtoons are a mistaken lot and they need to be better integrated into Afghan society.
(if you carry this forward you guys can develop an even more interesting conspiracy theory. This will provide an even more stronger basis for zeemini`s views on Indians as quoted in #62 and we can see him squealing with joy and whooping with pleasure at this chance - go for it)
The real story is that of Mushy and MMSingh (please note: Mushy provided MMSingh with tips on how not to be follically challenged!) and the hand shake in Havana. Ofcourse over Cuban Cigars hand rolled by special women.
The real conspiracy theory is this: India and Pakistan elite have created this together so the population could have something to discuss rather than roti, kapda aur makaan. Mushy slipped up, since he was not part of the gang and hence kargil. he took the propaganda way too seriously and did something he shouldnot have. India made him sweat for a few years. And viola you have Havana, cigars and all. Today in the UN Pakistan has dropped Kashmir like a hot potato. Its talking about how Pashtoons are a mistaken lot and they need to be better integrated into Afghan society.
(if you carry this forward you guys can develop an even more interesting conspiracy theory. This will provide an even more stronger basis for zeemini`s views on Indians as quoted in #62 and we can see him squealing with joy and whooping with pleasure at this chance - go for it)
#71 Posted by jang on September 27, 2006 6:37:44 am
#66 yes, the general is very cool. najm sethi had some observations. he said, the general can say contradictiry things because it does not matter, he is not accountable to what he says. he just shrugs it off and gets on with it. its not like pakistani people are against him or on the streets, and he gets a nice and warm welcome from NRPs whereever he goes..no shunning happening anywhere. overall, he is on a very strong wicket. only real pressure on him comes from washington, for pakistani people he is a real badshah.
#72 Posted by tahmed32 on September 27, 2006 6:40:57 am
#71 as chowk is my witness, pakistani people are too down-to-earth to treat anyone as a badshah. or a goodshah. :-)
#73 Posted by arjun2 on September 27, 2006 6:42:42 am
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#74 Posted by zeemax on September 27, 2006 6:42:57 am
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#75 Posted by masadi on September 27, 2006 6:45:45 am
Zeemax #54 <<< However, the fact remains Pak had no reason to go to war on behalf of Taliban who had turned against Pak >>>
The ``taliban`` (an external) is not the issue in such capitulation, it is that the ``nation`` surrenders itself to the wishes and wills of another (as a slave) upon threat, for whatever the other`s desires might be. (even though it was just showmanship), translating that as ``national interest`` is simply prepostrous and the ``leader`` whose decision is unconditional surrender no questions asked is no leader whatsoever, otherwise the whole concept of national sovereignty is moot~ which in fact it is given how the US lords it around all over the globe yet maintains this non-existanant fictitious system for easy plunder.
The ``taliban`` (an external) is not the issue in such capitulation, it is that the ``nation`` surrenders itself to the wishes and wills of another (as a slave) upon threat, for whatever the other`s desires might be. (even though it was just showmanship), translating that as ``national interest`` is simply prepostrous and the ``leader`` whose decision is unconditional surrender no questions asked is no leader whatsoever, otherwise the whole concept of national sovereignty is moot~ which in fact it is given how the US lords it around all over the globe yet maintains this non-existanant fictitious system for easy plunder.
#76 Posted by zeemax on September 27, 2006 6:52:51 am
#75 by masadi
Yes no argument about this. Pak should have told US to eff off and we`ll see what`s in our best interests. He didn`t do that. That`s why he`s just a smalltime punk. No doubt.
Yes no argument about this. Pak should have told US to eff off and we`ll see what`s in our best interests. He didn`t do that. That`s why he`s just a smalltime punk. No doubt.
#77 Posted by strongman_dick on September 27, 2006 6:55:35 am
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