Asif Naqshbandi October 15, 2006
#183 Posted by arjun2 on October 17, 2006 9:58:19 pm
#182 by echoboom on October 17, 2006 9:45pm PT
Congratulations!
congratulations to Mohd Yunis for rejecting islamofascists like you...
Congratulations!
congratulations to Mohd Yunis for rejecting islamofascists like you...
#182 Posted by echoboom on October 17, 2006 9:45:27 pm
arjun2:181
Congratulations! You are the talk of town now....but we always suspected!
A 27-year-old man in Mayurbhanj district of Orissa has become the talk of the town these days. Many doctors here are perplexed with his monkey-like behaviour.
Kudlo, the monkey man, in Puranapanj village in Mayurbhanj district of Orissa, behaves and produces sounds like monkey. With his peculiar behaviour has become the favourite topic for almost every household.
The issue came to focus when a team of Excise officials from Jamshedpur, who visited the village to distribute blankets among tribals, noticed Kudlo.
However, Sangomani , the mother of Kudlo, makes an interesting revelation about her sons monkey-like habits. She says her sons condition may have been the result of a rape which she suffered from a monkey when she went into the jungles for collecting woods for kitchen.
According to Dr. Pushpa Marya, a gynaecologist, Sangomanis claim isnt feasible as it is impossible.`` This cannot happen that a monkey rapes the woman and then she begets a baby,`` said Marya.
Congratulations! You are the talk of town now....but we always suspected!
Woman claims son`s odd behavior is due to monkey rape
A 27-year-old man in Mayurbhanj district of Orissa has become the talk of the town these days. Many doctors here are perplexed with his monkey-like behaviour.
Kudlo, the monkey man, in Puranapanj village in Mayurbhanj district of Orissa, behaves and produces sounds like monkey. With his peculiar behaviour has become the favourite topic for almost every household.
The issue came to focus when a team of Excise officials from Jamshedpur, who visited the village to distribute blankets among tribals, noticed Kudlo.
However, Sangomani , the mother of Kudlo, makes an interesting revelation about her sons monkey-like habits. She says her sons condition may have been the result of a rape which she suffered from a monkey when she went into the jungles for collecting woods for kitchen.
According to Dr. Pushpa Marya, a gynaecologist, Sangomanis claim isnt feasible as it is impossible.`` This cannot happen that a monkey rapes the woman and then she begets a baby,`` said Marya.
#181 Posted by arjun2 on October 17, 2006 9:24:00 pm
#180 by echoboom on October 17, 2006 9:19pm PT
I see that you`re strangely silent about Mohd Yunis gladly accepting the Nobel prize and not trashing it like you said a good muslim should be doing..
cat got your tongue?
#180 Posted by echoboom on October 17, 2006 9:19:34 pm
So why not seek, as Iqbal suggests, the women`s view?--even non-muslim!; even British!
What do the Cantonement and Colony toataa-mainaas know about dissent & rebellion. They have been programmed to be docile & servile ever since their Master dived into their gene-pool and made a nest in the toataa-mainaa family-tree.
by Lindsey German
One of the more distasteful features of the wave of attacks on Muslims has been the sight of feminists lining up to support Jack Straw’s comments against the veil.
Women who claim they believe in liberation should know better. The women’s movement of the 1960s was anti-racist, coming out of the civil rights and anti-war movements in the US.
Those who espouse their ideas today are attacking some of the most oppressed women in the name of liberating them. Their assumption is that any Muslim woman who wears the veil or the hijab does so because of pressure.
This is false - some women may fit into this category, but many Muslim women choose to wear the niqab or the hijab for their identity, or for political or other reasons. They are making a statement which they have every right to make.
You would think from the attacks that it was only among Muslims that women’s oppression still exists. In fact, women in the West do not have even the most basic equality, despite nominal lip service to the term.
Women suffer worse wages, have to do most housework and childcare and are subject to sexual double standards.
Feminists often say superior ideas on women’s liberation in the West go back 200 years, which makes the West more advanced than the Middle East or South Asia. But women’s liberation has long been a minority view.
It took until well into the 20th century before women won the vote after a long struggle. It took another struggle to put issues like abortion, equal pay and gay liberation on the agenda in the 1960s and 1970s.
These struggles are still to be won. Only a small minority of women have benefited from changes in society - they pay other, often immigrant, women, to do domestic work.
They have turned their backs on any struggle to change the world and supported a series of bloody wars aimed at countries with Muslim populations.
They now presume to tell Muslim women they can’t be liberated unless they dress and behave like them.
What do the Cantonement and Colony toataa-mainaas know about dissent & rebellion. They have been programmed to be docile & servile ever since their Master dived into their gene-pool and made a nest in the toataa-mainaa family-tree.
Criticism of the veil is not about liberating women
by Lindsey German
One of the more distasteful features of the wave of attacks on Muslims has been the sight of feminists lining up to support Jack Straw’s comments against the veil.
Women who claim they believe in liberation should know better. The women’s movement of the 1960s was anti-racist, coming out of the civil rights and anti-war movements in the US.
Those who espouse their ideas today are attacking some of the most oppressed women in the name of liberating them. Their assumption is that any Muslim woman who wears the veil or the hijab does so because of pressure.
This is false - some women may fit into this category, but many Muslim women choose to wear the niqab or the hijab for their identity, or for political or other reasons. They are making a statement which they have every right to make.
You would think from the attacks that it was only among Muslims that women’s oppression still exists. In fact, women in the West do not have even the most basic equality, despite nominal lip service to the term.
Women suffer worse wages, have to do most housework and childcare and are subject to sexual double standards.
Feminists often say superior ideas on women’s liberation in the West go back 200 years, which makes the West more advanced than the Middle East or South Asia. But women’s liberation has long been a minority view.
It took until well into the 20th century before women won the vote after a long struggle. It took another struggle to put issues like abortion, equal pay and gay liberation on the agenda in the 1960s and 1970s.
These struggles are still to be won. Only a small minority of women have benefited from changes in society - they pay other, often immigrant, women, to do domestic work.
They have turned their backs on any struggle to change the world and supported a series of bloody wars aimed at countries with Muslim populations.
They now presume to tell Muslim women they can’t be liberated unless they dress and behave like them.
#179 Posted by teshah on October 17, 2006 7:56:31 pm
Re: # 156
naqshbandi
``In an Islamic society, if a woman wants to wear one that is fine; I just think it doesn`t help our cause in the West.``
Why it`s fine to wear niqab in the Islamic society of all the places? Are there men`s eyes more evil then elsewhere? Can women`s eyes not be evil (like Zulekha of Egypt for instance) to advise men to wear niqab? In fact, Islam or no Islam, woman is a problem for the Mullah, perhaps, because she is not his client. He won`t allow her even in his mosque; why?
naqshbandi
``In an Islamic society, if a woman wants to wear one that is fine; I just think it doesn`t help our cause in the West.``
Why it`s fine to wear niqab in the Islamic society of all the places? Are there men`s eyes more evil then elsewhere? Can women`s eyes not be evil (like Zulekha of Egypt for instance) to advise men to wear niqab? In fact, Islam or no Islam, woman is a problem for the Mullah, perhaps, because she is not his client. He won`t allow her even in his mosque; why?
#178 Posted by arjun2 on October 17, 2006 5:39:33 pm
It`s not about the veil..
It`s about the integration...
If brit-pakis were well integrated into british society this wouldn`t even be an issue. Now you have Brit-Pakis who`re killing and planning to kill a whole bunch of british and non-british citizens because of what they perceive as an injustice against people who live in far away lands but happen to share their faith.
It`s about the integration...
If brit-pakis were well integrated into british society this wouldn`t even be an issue. Now you have Brit-Pakis who`re killing and planning to kill a whole bunch of british and non-british citizens because of what they perceive as an injustice against people who live in far away lands but happen to share their faith.
#177 Posted by Behram1 on October 17, 2006 5:15:11 pm
Re: # 167 by Urstruly on October 17, 2006 1:14pm PT
Dear Urstruly:
{yeh straw kutta beech main kahan se aa gya?}
The only kutta we knew in Karachi was the Jamaati kuttas. Now did you discover another brand of kuttas?
Respectfully submitted,
Dear Urstruly:
{yeh straw kutta beech main kahan se aa gya?}
The only kutta we knew in Karachi was the Jamaati kuttas. Now did you discover another brand of kuttas?
Respectfully submitted,
#176 Posted by Naqshbandi on October 17, 2006 4:54:29 pm
Re: # 166
He also had a very learned and beautiful daughter called Gulbadan; she wrote a diary about life in his times which is one of our best sources for information about that period. It has been translated by an american woman as, i think, `Princess Rosebody``.
He also had a very learned and beautiful daughter called Gulbadan; she wrote a diary about life in his times which is one of our best sources for information about that period. It has been translated by an american woman as, i think, `Princess Rosebody``.
#175 Posted by Naqshbandi on October 17, 2006 4:52:30 pm
I don`t like Blair or his policies but the operative sentence in that article was ``[The veil] makes people feel uncomfortable``
--That is the point. whether the wearer feels so or not, if this is how it is perceived by the majority then you`ve got to do something. in the long run there will be two options: integrate or emigrate (or be terminated).
--That is the point. whether the wearer feels so or not, if this is how it is perceived by the majority then you`ve got to do something. in the long run there will be two options: integrate or emigrate (or be terminated).
#174 Posted by Naqshbandi on October 17, 2006 4:50:12 pm
Now Tony Blair is getting in on the act too...
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Blair wades into Muslim veil row
By George Jones, Political Editor
(Filed: 17/10/2006)
Tony Blair intervened today in the growing controversy over Muslim women wearing veils in public, saying it was a “mark of separation” that made other people feel uncomfortable.
Blair at monthly press conference
Blair addresses members of the press
At his monthly press conference in No 10 Downing Street, the Prime Minister backed a local education authority which suspended a Muslim teaching assistant for refusing to remove her veil during lessons.
Mr Blair said he could “see the reason” why Kirklees Council had suspended Aishah Azmi and said there was now a full scale public debate underway on the extent to which Muslims should integrate into mainstream British society.
Veiled woman
Blair said veil made people feel uncomfortable
He said that the question of school staff wearing the veil should be a matter for the education authority, which should be allowed to take the decision. Asked whether he specifically backed the teaching assistant’s suspension from Headfield Church of England Junior School in Dewsbury, West Yorkshire, he said: “I simply say that I back their handling of the case.
“I can see the reason why they came to the decision they did.”
Though it was a “difficult” issue, it needed to be raised and confronted. The debate about how Islam came to terms with, and was comfortable with, the modern world was happening not just in Britain, but in other European countries, Mr Blair told members of the press.
“People want to know that the Muslim community in particular, but actually all minority communities, have got the balance right between integration and multi-culturalism,” he said.
Mr Blair pledged that British forces would not “walk away” from Iraq or Afghanistan until their job there was complete. He insisted there was no division between him and the head of the Army, General Sir Richard Dannatt, who warned last week that the British presence in Iraq was exacerbating the difficulties the UK faced around the world.
The Prime Minister insisted that the British troops in the two countries were carrying out an important mission for world security. “If we walk away before the job is done from either of those two countries, we will leave a situation in which the very people we are fighting everywhere, including the extremism in our own country, are heartened and emboldened and we can’t afford that to happen. So we have got to see that job through.”
****
Blair wades into Muslim veil row
By George Jones, Political Editor
(Filed: 17/10/2006)
Tony Blair intervened today in the growing controversy over Muslim women wearing veils in public, saying it was a “mark of separation” that made other people feel uncomfortable.
Blair at monthly press conference
Blair addresses members of the press
At his monthly press conference in No 10 Downing Street, the Prime Minister backed a local education authority which suspended a Muslim teaching assistant for refusing to remove her veil during lessons.
Mr Blair said he could “see the reason” why Kirklees Council had suspended Aishah Azmi and said there was now a full scale public debate underway on the extent to which Muslims should integrate into mainstream British society.
Veiled woman
Blair said veil made people feel uncomfortable
He said that the question of school staff wearing the veil should be a matter for the education authority, which should be allowed to take the decision. Asked whether he specifically backed the teaching assistant’s suspension from Headfield Church of England Junior School in Dewsbury, West Yorkshire, he said: “I simply say that I back their handling of the case.
“I can see the reason why they came to the decision they did.”
Though it was a “difficult” issue, it needed to be raised and confronted. The debate about how Islam came to terms with, and was comfortable with, the modern world was happening not just in Britain, but in other European countries, Mr Blair told members of the press.
“People want to know that the Muslim community in particular, but actually all minority communities, have got the balance right between integration and multi-culturalism,” he said.
Mr Blair pledged that British forces would not “walk away” from Iraq or Afghanistan until their job there was complete. He insisted there was no division between him and the head of the Army, General Sir Richard Dannatt, who warned last week that the British presence in Iraq was exacerbating the difficulties the UK faced around the world.
The Prime Minister insisted that the British troops in the two countries were carrying out an important mission for world security. “If we walk away before the job is done from either of those two countries, we will leave a situation in which the very people we are fighting everywhere, including the extremism in our own country, are heartened and emboldened and we can’t afford that to happen. So we have got to see that job through.”
#173 Posted by Naqshbandi on October 17, 2006 1:57:00 pm
UTha do pardah dikhaa do chihra ke noor e baari hijaab mein hain
--Iqbal
--Iqbal
#172 Posted by Naqshbandi on October 17, 2006 1:56:24 pm
that`s by Daagh Dihlavi and sung to perfection by Mehdi Hassan!
#171 Posted by Naqshbandi on October 17, 2006 1:55:50 pm
Khuub pardaa hai ke chilaman se lage baiThe hai.n
saaf chhupate bhii nahii.n saamane aate bhii nahii.n
saaf chhupate bhii nahii.n saamane aate bhii nahii.n
#170 Posted by echoboom on October 17, 2006 1:26:12 pm
Nasah:
Amir Minai Amreeka meiN aaj hotay toa strip joint meiN kehtay:
`` Saraktee jaa-ey hai angiaa-O-Undie aahistaa aahistaa



Amir Minai Amreeka meiN aaj hotay toa strip joint meiN kehtay:
`` Saraktee jaa-ey hai angiaa-O-Undie aahistaa aahistaa



#169 Posted by echoboom on October 17, 2006 1:21:27 pm
167:Urstruly
yeh straw kutta beech main kahan se aa gya?



YahaaN sey:
They want to remove the veil from her face but ``Hosla kartay hain lekin hosla hota nahin``
Sometimes shairs take a whole new meaning in an entirely different context . That is the power of good poetry.
yeh straw kutta beech main kahan se aa gya?



YahaaN sey:
They want to remove the veil from her face but ``Hosla kartay hain lekin hosla hota nahin``
Sometimes shairs take a whole new meaning in an entirely different context . That is the power of good poetry.
#168 Posted by nasah on October 17, 2006 1:15:30 pm
now who can top Amir Minai ......sarakti jai hai rukh say niqaab ahista ahista....thanks to Jagjeet.
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