India-Pakistan talks: the endless cycle

Mr. Ahmed,

We are all adults with some reasonable resonableness. I dont hold u against me even if u ridicule Hindusim or India. If u make ur comments based on evidence (recorded or personal experience) any amt of ridicule is OK. Pl remember that we human beings are not perfect nor our man-made religions wud be. Inspite of all this u can make fun of Hinduism. U wud not be the first or be the last person to do that. Hinduism underwent many transformations in 5K years. I dont think it wud be in the same for in the next centuries. Hindus are so foolish guys that they worship a Muslim bard Sai Baba regardless of his being an Islamic faqir in the present day India. We were taken for granted by all invaders and we still are indifferent to the fifth columnist people who just happen to change their religion.

Despite the colossal poison that was given as dose to India by the separist Indian Muslims in 1947, we keep low and are patient.....in some corner of India there was rage agianst this pacifism. It`s smouldering.............I saw with my expereince the evil designs of ur countrymen on India. We now dont belong to Gandhian pacifism but realist Indians who wud treat Pakistanis based on their mettle.....not on sentiments. Excpet a handful of east Punjabis the rest of Indians give two hoots to Pakistanis.

I know how representative u are abt Pakistan but nevertheless this is my last word to people like u here who took us for granted for millennia.

vrv #394 thanks for the clarification, which does help. btw, knowing hamidm2 who has been on chowk the past several years, while he has a sense of humor and is an equal opportunity put-downer when it comes to india and pakistan - it would be totally out of character for him to write personal insults to someone`s family members. he may have been quoting someone or something.

your point about my being one-sided in my criticism of indian posters but not pakistanis is certainly a legitimate one. i dont deny that. I used to do that in the beginning - but gave up after i saw that every second indian coming to chowk was starting with abuse and namecalling of Pakistanis. As for HP and Behram, both were initially quite positive (Behram actually meant it when he wrote ``Respectfully Yours``). That changed after they saw the single-tune ridicule of pakistanis and Islam by indian posters. As for arjun - like many other indians, he came in singing is one-tune song crowing about indians and ridiculing pakistanis. The smarter indians generally change their tune after a few months/years when they realize that most pakistanis on chowk dont reciprocate, being too busy arguing over their own issues to have much interest in india.

And in fact, like Behram and HP and every other chowk poster, I too reserve the right to point out the primitive aspects of hinduism and India if I decide (as i do sometime) to give a little back those who come to chowk only to abuse pakistanis and muslims.

And furthermore, like I said before, I blame primarily chowk staff for allowing their own guidelines to be routinely violated, and unless something changes i dont see what chowk owners are getting out of it. it is certainly not promoting any india-pakistan understanding, as seems to have been their intention. it is more like a scratch pad for time-wasters.

#390 by behram1 on November 29, 2006 10:53am PT


8. Accept that septic tank business is perfectly legitimate business, and you can make more money than Azim Premji`s Wipro.


Really? Wipro had revenue of almost 3 billion $...even with a quota, only a deluded paki can think cleaning septic tanks can make you that kinds of money...

face it...you`re a quota hack with no chance of getting to where Premji is...

beHaraami,


``harimau kay gaand main gus jao.`` (for the twin purposes explained elsewhere).



LOL***LOL***LOL***LOL***LOL***LOL.

Mr. Ahmed,

I understood hamid2 and tahmed32 as one and the same. The post written under hamid2`s name was acribed to you as a person (abusing sanatani). When u clarified that hamid2 and u are different, then I apologised for the mistaken identity. I stick to my apology that was meant for hamid2. If u are not hamid2, my apology stands.

However I hold u responsible for the half-hearted moral indignation: denounce peolle like Arjun who crosses the limits whilt criticising but conveniently ignore the open expletives Behram or HP writes. Pl mind the diff between criticism and expletives (both r not the same).

I think I am clearer abt this.

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VRV: I accepted your apology because i thought it was genuine. But now you imply that I am being moralistic when i was pointing out your lie about what I wrote - I see you didnt mean it and merely did that as a form of appeasement.

To bad. Like okla told you - i hope you grow out of this. Lying is not a normal thing, and I was perfectly within my rights to challenge your disgusting lie about what I wrote.

Here is a list that might help the Hindoos gain some self-respect:

1. Stop squatting on the rail road tracks for Lord Krishna`s feast.

2. Accept the fact that Hindoo Land is morally a nation of corruption filled with equally morally corrupt cheater`s class.

3. Stop insulting the religion of Islam, even in the form of a jest.

4. Accept the status of affirmative action as a legitimate tool of opportunity for advancement of the minorities amongst those majorities who are morally corrupt and are disingenuous for the nation`s enlightenment.

5. Stop squatting on the rail road tracks for Lord Krishna`s feast, again.

6. Accept that Hindoos are not very liked amongst the civilized people of the world.

7. Accept that Persians are the best looking people around, and Hindoos are just ugly, and they stink.

8. Accept that septic tank business is perfectly legitimate business, and you can make more money than Azim Premji`s Wipro.

9. Finally, you can go to hell, where you will find a lot of people from your country.

Dear Majumdar, Okhla, Zee & moral indingant Mr. Ahmed,

How can we reply to Behram?

Sorry for the short-lived sanity, (courtesy beHaraami). Let me try his oft repeated mantra.

``harimau kay gaand main gus jao.`` (for the twin purposes explained elsewhere).

Kiya bakwas kar rahey ho with the meritocratic choutias from Hindoo Land. These people have come from the bogus ghost universities from Hindoo Land with the degrees that is as good as a toilet paper. Their whole country is filled with garbage. They have several million squatters spread all over the rail road tracks in Mumbai. Hindoo Land is famous for their caste system. So how many children were married of to old dhoti-clad Hindoo is the question of the day?

The bogus propaganda of Hindoo Land is that Wipro is going great guns (Wipro is going up their Hindoo @ss, that is), and that they hire based on merit.

This is just that stupid argument promoted by the white majority of the US. Why are Hindoos not concerned of promoting equal opportunity for everybody in Hindoo Land? These and all other question require enlightenment and Hindoos are devoured of such thoughts.

Parsees who have lived amongst Hindoos for all these centuries, have always believed in Good Thoughts, Good Words, and Good Deeds.

Unfortunately, Hindoos of Hindoo Land have been unable to get this basic Parsee religious dogma of ``Good Thoughts`` accepted in their philosophy and placed in to their social practice.

In the US, some Hindoos have been identified hiding behind the Chinese to get protection some protection of being Asian. These choutias do not realize that Asians in America means only orientals and not South Asians.

No Pakistanis will ever trust a Hindoo in the business world. These Hindoos from Hindoo Land are liars, cheaters and tricksters of the worst kind. Have a look around and you will see how deceiving these people are?

And Hindoos have been arrested in California, on charges of enticing underage girls for their sexual escapades. Such is the quality of these junk laden Hindoo minds.

Yes, these Hindoo from Hindoo Land have numerical advantage when it comes to quantity of people, but they do not quality for the enlightened world. On this chowk, they hide behind nick names, and get the freedom to show their hatred towards Pakistanis and everything that Pakistan ever stood for.

Pakistan is, was, and will always remain a friend of the US. Pakistan is a non-nato ally. It was Pakistan that opened diplomatic doors for the US to China. It has been Pakistan who has always sent its best and the brightest to the US, to promote harmony amongst the people of the US. That is why you will see Pakistanis amongst the regular Joe Shmuck citizens of the US.

And where was Hindoo Land, in all these 59 years of its existence. Hindoo Land was promoting hatred for capitalism. Hindoo Land was amongst the failed Non-aligned movemnent. Hindoo Land was pro-USSR.

When everything else has failed Hindoo Land is coming to get some ecstasy amongst the westerners.

Hindoo Land is known to destroy its minorities. Not only muslims, but Christians have been badly tamed in Naga Land. Hindoo Land promotes child marriages. Hindoo Land is still killing christians in Naga Land?

Hindoo land must continuously be exposed for the average Joe Schmuck westerner to get a clear understanding of what kind of shenanigans corporate america is about to play with its own citizens. Heck, if corporate america goes the Private Equity route, then of course I will be least worried, but if they are taking money from the public arena like the stock market, then they better have some good corporate ethics in place.

And one of the ethical concepts is to have unequivocal affirmative action installed in Hindoo Land. There is no ifs, ands or buts about it. And these corporate animals must understand to be very careful regarding the cheaters class of the Hindoo Land. These people have always been the liars, the tricksters, the fraudsters, and the deceivers of the unsuspecting masses.

Respectfully submitted,

#385 by tahmed32

Haha ... tahmed, VRV is actually a good soul ... though quick on the draw ... it takes time on Chowk to knock off the rough edges as you know ....

#370 majumdar

Who are the owners of the chowk? How does chowk.com make money? And what is the motivation of the chowk owners to run chowk- is it profit or do they actually shell out money from their pocket to run chowk.

You may get some idea from the horses` mouth i.e. the owners from this article:

Chowk is 9 Today-Chowk Staff

.....and the interacts!

Though not sure ... it`s pretty confusing.

#284 i accept your apologies. have a good day.

Mr. Ahmed,

U wrote to sanatani under ur another nick hamid2 not as tahmed32. That`s what I meant.

If u calim that u dont have a nick then I withdraw my words and apologise.

In any case u have ur gang of bad mouths and I have mine here.

vrv #382: you claim i wrote that crap you posted. that makes you a liar. you can get away with lying about what someone said in real life - not on chowk. because everything that was written can be easily checked.

as for me being hamidm2 (!!) - that of course is another convenient thing you made up without any basis.

Re: # 377

Majumdar,

That sounded very well.

It`s like walking in a high-street and seeing people of different characters. Some are dogs, some are donkeys, some are jackals. You name them, u had them here. This is a kinda safari here. Howling abt only few guys and ignoring some others is the charactersitic of some double-agents. I remember tamhed32 whose another nick is hamid2 writing unprintable expletives on sanatani which reads something like this: `Tell me where u live. I will come and fcuk ur wife, sisters and daughters` (sic). You think that`s a good post???

We as individuals wudnt improve the relations between India and Pakistan. I only wish that this outlives 2015. We`d be better off without these narrow-minded, one-agenda losers like tahmed32 here.

Rgds,

majumdar #370 I am glad we are on the same page about these individuals who use chowk to act big and put down other nationalities. There was an interesting article on the Washington Post yesterday titled ``No one on the internet knows you are a dog``, which basically pointed to the same tendancy of losers to act big on the internet.

You ask ``Who are the owners of the chowk? `` It was started by a Pakistani fellow whose name has been mentioned several times on chowk, but who himself never makes an appearance, and as a result I cant remember his name. (I know this answer gets a D minus. Perhaps someone else will remember his name).

I have no idea of the ownership and financing or motivations.

Having said all that - this remains my favorite place to waste time too. :-)