India, Pakistan and the Kashmir dispute

Re: # 330

Add on to point 2.

How can I/we forget abt the hundreds of photos published in Jinnah`s newspaper Dawn abt the city of Karchi flaoting on sewage and another photo os people treating paalak with sewage water.

Dirtiness is digested into ur systems. Can anybody cure u??

Re: # 296

Hizra Paaki,

I dont argue abt the cleanliness of Indian cities but the words abt sweeping generalisations is characteristic of you. For sample:

1. Everything Indians touch becomes polluted fairly quickly.

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Nonsense

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2. Look at their polluted religious and cultural symbols like Ganga and Jamna and just think that it is an important religious rite to bathe in there for an Indian Brahmin or shudra alike.

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Is this any different from Muslims rubbing brick-pieces around their coituses after pissing. Btw u wud see dozens of such brick-pieces used and reused by by many guyz like u i.e baldies...get it?

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3. Lake Dal has to be owned by Kashmiris again for human from Pakistan to visit it.

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U are deluding abt ur status. Haha.

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4. Btw, Hamidm, I recommend you walk into any Indian home in the US unannounced and you will notice the filth and stench that for a person of your exquisite taste for fine wines, would be enough to puke instantly.

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Many Indians feel the same abt Paaki homes. goat droppings etc...

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4..... Kashmiris have steadfastedly remained pro-military run-Pakistan and would certainly vote for Pakistan knowing fully well that the democratic institutions they have in Kashmir may not survive their merger with Pakistan.

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Another dose of delusion similar to Niazi being told abt yellows (Chinese), whites (US) coming to Pak`s rescue in Dhaka....Paakis are in deep slumber. Think more abt the dark-skinned, flat-nosed Biharis (who call themselves as Paakis) in Bangladesh

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5. Since 1989, Pakistan has maintained enough pressure on India thru supporting the insurgency that now both countries are forced to rethink their tactics and strategy. Despite the mayhem Pakistani sponsored insurgents have created in Kashmir, Kashmiris have remained riveted to Pakistan side shunning Indians at every step.

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Admission of guilt for propping up terrorism. Agreed.

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6. Now is the time to set a right trap for India to fall into. The only country that would benefit from opening of Kashmir borders, open trade between the Kashmiris, and free movements of people in Kashmir would be Pakistan and not India. In fact, I think the new approach would bring Pakistani and Kashmiris closer faster and the demand for a free Kashmir or Kashmir joining Pakistan would grow in strength and not diminish.

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Another admission of guilt mixed with another dose of misplaced optimism aka delusion

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7. The policy of supporting insurgency should now move to the next stage and that would be to support the civilian and pro-Pakistan Kashmiris leaders to take control of the state and that would happen fairly quickly after the borders are open between the two Kashmirs.

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I take this as a hint for Indians to replace Pakistan with India and Kashmir with Balochistan. Thanks.

When rephrased it looks like this:

7. The policy of supporting insurgency should now move to the next stage .....pro-Indian Balochis leaders to take control of the state and that would happen fairly quickly .......

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8. So I think there is no need to debate this issue with these nincompoops because action on the ground would prove to be more powerful in the long run.

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I agree abt this so I repeat the same for u.

So I think there is no need to debate this issue (Balochistan) with these nincompoops aka Paakis because action on the ground would prove to be more powerful in the long run.

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#308 by hamidm2
“thanks for your insightful, astute and optimistic analysis of the kashmir issue”

Thanks.

“or a moment there anil and dost almost convinced me to abandon the poor Kashmiris”

These two gentlemen may appear well meaning but don‘t understand the political process. They are political simpletons and perhaps have no knowledge how things work in the real world.

Now to other posters:

What did I write in my post #296 that is not true?


1. Is it not true that Indian cities and villages are drowning under the filth? Read a very insightful article in online WSJ “Delhi Dilemma...Why India`s capital may never become a world-class city” by Shikha Dalmia
to get some clues…the article appeared on 12/20/06( this is copyrighted material otherwise I would have posted the article here.( now khasis would not have any qualms abt violating the COPYRIGHTS LAWS)

2. Is it not true that the most revered Indian rivers Ganga and Jamna are nothing but sewer canals?

3. Is it not true the Indian cities and rivers are more polluted than they ever were before the partition?

4. Is it not true that cows, cow dung and piss are the most visible monuments of Indians love for cleanliness? Btw, Is it not true the you commonly see women following cows and picking up cow droppings in baskets for use as energy and paint alternate?

The real problem is that truth hurts these khasis and they find it hard to face the facts and realities about the filth-pool macaca land.

Tahemd,
Someone has to show mirror to these reality-challenged nincompoops who while living in the west, forget that where they have come from and what their cities look like.

Now a word about Pakistani cities. I know there is still a lot to be done there but compare any Pakistan city small and large to what they looked liked in 1947 and you will see a marked improvement in sanitation, cleanliness and pollution. There is no Pakistani river that is as polluted as most of the Indian rivers are.

#319 by hamidm2 on December 25, 2006 9:06am PT


arguing with mrs hamidm about new drapes for the bedroom


It`s the same thing really...mrs hamidm doesn`t care about your opinion on the drapes and indians don`t care about your opinion on kashmir..

Re: # 325

dude, please - half a dozen daughters??... you can`t manage two - how am i going to manage half a dozen?... :)

Re: # 321 vrv

yeah, most pakis here are old bats, hanging on to the same tree for a long time... :)... in their darkand damp world - nothing ever changes: kashmir banega pakiland, hinuds are evil, ... blah blah... :)...

Re: # 324

mohar mian,

may al-lah bless you with half a dozen daughters !

Re: # 323

Actually, the three women are kicking his fat a$$ and there is nothing Hamidm can do about it... so, in frustration, he is lashing out at the hinuds... which kind of typical of pakis - if things go wrong, just blame it on the hinuds... :)

Re: # 319

Hamidm sahib:

It could all be conspiracy of three wise women to convert you to vote for Hillary Clinton. Indians cannot chage you, but three wise women shall change you.

#296 by HP on December 24, 2006 2:31pm PT


Everything Indians touch becomes polluted fairly quickly.


Including the rivers that flow from Indian Kashmir into Pakiland...And seeing as how you`re unable to change the situation in your favor, the Indian government should dump some pig fat or the bodies of the killed jihadis into the rivers just before they flow into pakiland...

no 72 virgins for pakis then...

Ahmed420,

You are NOT an impartial adjudicator of virtue on Chowk by ur own admission. OK, agreed.

Btw u are most likely to be a Memphistopheles than a Zeus.

Merry Christmas.

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Mohar,

Now I know some people by their true colours. I rest my case now.

#291 by saadmd

Dear Saadmd,

In spite of some leg-pulling (hope you did not mind!) I truly think that you are far more credible and sincere than such chowk fixtures as mian H2 and mian T32 of that “ghissaa-peetaa” mindset! Because:

(1) You appear to believe in the inherent goodness of mankind and see your religion as a means of bringing that inherent goodness out.

(2) You do not appear to believe that being a Muslim makes one inherently superior to another person who may be non-Muslim and you do not use different yardsticks for Muslims and from non-Muslims.

(3) You do not condone the use of violence to attain political objectives – for example, in Kashmir! Individuals like you will never make the Muhammad Attas of the world – unlike the vast majority of your countrymen (including their expatriate editions) for whom the “doctrine of necessity” predominates every walk of life!

I hope the above statements dispel any misunderstandings between the two of us and firmly ensconce you on the comparatively higher pedestal in these chowk halls of fame where you genuinely belong!

If only we could convince these other foolish interactors that you are not really me!! They are such a suspicious bunch of foolish individuals.

PS: I still think you ought to consider changing the name of your country from Pakistan to something else – after all you do remember where it was carved out of, and if you mean to use the term “pure” in the good sense and only call one section “pure” – by implication you are saying that the other portion is “other than pure”! This is an example of an exclusivist thinking mindset which would be contradictory, in fact anathema, to the noble thoughts you have advanced in your two previous interacts.

Have a merry Christmas!

Re: # 318

tahmed,

........ i wish i was in islamabad as planned - nobody talks about any of this stuff over there .......... this seems to be an obsession with expatriates who, if you really think about it, don`t really have a mangy dog in the fight ........ unfortunately my daughter busted her knee and had to have reconstrucitve surgery, so i am stuck here on my `vacation` with the whining indians on one side and three whiney women on the other ......... but i will take my chances with the horrible hindoos over kashmir instead of arguing with mrs hamidm about new drapes for the bedroom - a battle i have no chance of winning ..........

#311 hamidm: You deluded paki, you!! There are no problems in India!! You should know that by now. :-)

Moron Mohar: and here is a bonus bone, a second post. This is in recognition of your having outdone yourself in Mohar Moronisms.

Merry Christmas from Santa. :-)

There is another bone waiting for you next spring, if you are diligent. ha! ha!

Campfollower Mohar: I have the most wonderful news of the year for you. You have completed your quota of 20 posts that I require before I toss you a bone in terms of a response. OK...you had met your quota some time back, and I am tossing you this bone with some delay.

So, here is your very own post. Go for it, boy. Grab this bone and give me 20 more posts!!