India, Pakistan and the Kashmir dispute

#275 And no thanks to you for helping to elect the worst president in US history. He`s also proving to be dangerous to global climate. I hope you`ll repent and vote for Al Gore `08 even if it means detroit will become more of a 3rd world city.

#276
In my years on chowk I have found that hamidm2 is a self righteous twit too right up there with tahmed32. They belong to a Pak generation which expects Indians to respond to their `deserved talking down to the less civilised` with self-deprecating and feel-good brotherhood statements and they don`t know what the hell to do with Indians who talk back.

#275 hamidm2
Who knows whether india and pak are going to be around in a few decades to fight over kashmir or anything else. Glaciers are disappearing and the dal lake would be gone. Merry Christmas!

PS: you must have some well-traveled kashmiri peddlers in rawalpindi who must have been to lake geneva..

#273 mullahji, I don`t think you are obtuse or reading challenged. You are just a self-righteous twit (thanks hamidm2!) who assumes the worst about ``hindus.``

Merry christmas!

#267, #271

Saadm sahib,

Abhie na jaa-o chhoad kar, ki dil abhieeee bharaa nahin!

Please pay no attention to the likes of Hamidm2 and Tahmed who just don`t have your level of deep understanding of the religion which our (US) president so eloquently, never-tiringly praises as the religion of peas and has been doing so forever.

These folks just don`t have the right sensitivity! Or culture!

Hang in there, please. I solemnly promise to help you make thse guys see the true light!

anil: i have nothing more to add beyond what i already told you given that you have failed to acknowledge the basic point I made - that calling Pakistan a ``cancer`` clearly indicates your antipathy towards the very existence of Pakistan and contradicts your other assertions. If bringing this to your attention insults you, while your calling an entire nation a ``cancer`` is OK with you, then you have a twisted set of values.

Re: # 273


tahmed,

.......... i think you are being unduly harsh with anil ...... i would give him the benefit of doubt and accept the explanation that he was referring to the jihadists being the `cancer` in pakistan - and he is right ........... unlike some other indians on this forum, like frau sadna and wunderknabe arjun, he does not seem to suffer from a pathological hatred for pakistan

........... merry christmas to both you and anil mian

p.s. if i thought my giving up on kashmir would actually bring `peace on earth` i would, but then there is darfur, iraq, sri lanka, mizoram, nagaland and gujarat ........

sadmd: your heart is in the right place (i.e. in calls for peace and and in the respectful manner in which you refer to people of other communities, hindus in this case). However your brain needs some oiling so it can do what a brain is supposed to do - think rationally.

So, let me try to get your brain functioning: Lesson 1 - stick to what someone said, dont make up your own story of what someone said.

You failed on Lesson 1, and consquently Hamidm nailed you to the wall in #268 when he asked you ... and who is talking about accomodating kashmiris in our homes ? and again
and nobody is trying to earn ``brownie points with Allah (SWT) by insulting the Hindus``. Hamidm trying to win brownie points with Allah - ha! ha!

I would waste more time pointing out other stuff that you made up, but the fact that you failed to honestly respond to hamidm`s points and instead ``signed out`` tells me that you lack the pre-requisites even for lesson 1, namely being able to write in a responsible manner like a man.

So, bye bye.

Hamidm2: well it surprises me that you feel I have dragged religion into it. I am trying to separate the position of Islam from the position of those very fools who hijacked the movement as you said. What concerns me is how my religion gets tainted everytime a bomb explodes anywhere in the world (even if it is by a Muslim or not). As for your personal beliefs and ambitions about Kashmir, I would suggest you go to Kashmir now and drown yourself in the Dal Lake for all I care. You don`t need to take over the land, unless your ego tells you that`s the way to go about it. I would suggest the Hindus to help him to whatever extent they possibly can as it would be the first cooperative act that will go a long way to achieving peace. I am glad you have finally shown your true colours to the world to see. Signing out.

#260 by Mantolives on December 24, 2006 0:52am PT


The author forgets that the statement that came out of the foreign office was that Pakistan had never claimed Kashmir to be an integral part of Pakistan.


And the fox released a statement that he was on the atkins diet and wasn`t really after the grapes...

Re: # 263

the chowk takes another hit !

saadmd,

shame on you for dragging religion into this territorial dispute ! ............. the whole problem started when wild-eyed bearded real muslims shouting al-lah o` akbar hijacked the kashmiri liberation movement giving non-believer muslims a bad name and severe heartburn ..........

and nobody is trying to earn ``brownie points with Allah (SWT) by insulting the Hindus`` ....... heck as far as i am concerned al-lah, swt or no swt, is a horrid bedouin deity who has caused more trouble than the six-armed lady who eats little children for breakfast ........ the sooner he is locked up in the kaaba with his daughters and other family and friends, the better off we would be ............

...... and who is talking about accomodating kashmiris in our homes ? ........ we want to be guests in their homes in sirinagar and go for a boat ride on dal lake - every kashmiri i know, selling cheap wooden boxes and fake pashminas on canning road, claims to have an uncle who has a mansion on dal lake which, according to them, is more beautiful than lake geneva ............. i am curious, but once we get kashmir and don`t like it, we will give it back to the horrible hindoos so that they can float their elepant-nosed gods on it ...........

............ we have enough idiots on this forum and you are welcome to stay, but it is obvious that you will be subtracting from the already meager collective iq of this crowd of twits and dimwits .................

Re: # 268

Hamidm sahib:

``....is more beautiful than lake geneva ............. i am curious, but once we get kashmir and don`t like it, ....``

Dal Lake can be more beautiful than Lake Geneva, Lake Nauchatel, Lake Lucerne (I like this more) and Lake Como. Stop terror-tourism and let the real tourism begin. Hamidm sahib, why leave this possibilty open (``but once we get kashmir and don`t like it``), negotiate something else instead, Indian bania out of emotion, may really give a better bargain, including perpetual right to vaction by the Dal Lake, that must organize and participate in annual contest with swiss lakes and win. The year it looses pay penalties, and free vaction to Anil Kapuria and Hamidm sahib`s families.

Anil

Re: # 288

anil,

``perpetual right to vaction by the Dal Lake`` ........ i knew there was a catch! ....... but no thanks - years ago i made the mistake of buying a time-share condo from a bunch of seedy texans and i am not doing it again ............

......... anyway, merry christmas and have a great new year

Re: # 293

Hamidm sahib:

Happy holidays to you and the family.

See, you never learned to negotiate from the great Kashmiran leader who in 1971 made Nixon say what he said and Madani sahib quoted.

Why should you not enjoy the profits from the fruits of your labor and grey matter. Who did not, just think about it.

Re: # 288

While at it, I will suggest that you use your influence and make sure Pakistani negotiators get a clause in it that to maintain Indian-Pakistani parity, Anil Kapuria and Hamidm will be on the panel of judges to decide the contest with swiss lakes, and that their votes in favor of Dal Lake will always be required.

I would be more than happy to pay a higher tax in Pakistan if the government can guarrantee the money doesn`t go into their own pockets and goes into giving the kashmiris a home in Pakistan. Again the corruption is the biggest hindrance in our countries and one we must fight by concentrating within ourselves.

To BJKUMAR: I would appreciate it if you stop cracking jokes in the middle of what I`m saying as you`re just distracting any emotional Pakistani away from the discussion. Yes there are too many on both sides unfortunately.