The Canadian Dream: Never Fulfilled

It`s an interesting article and i wonder how much of this is anecdotal. I can find overqualified workers both foreign-born and natives who are languishing in dead-end jobs unrelated to their field of interest in the US. I wouldn`t extrapolate from that to damn the entire immigrant experience.
What i have heard is that it is relatively easy if you are highly educated to get an immigrant visa to canada which means that there are a great many more accidental (i.e. non-motivated) academically qualified immigrants in canada compared to the US. This could be another factor.
I don`t get your comparison of BC to ``other comparable international cities.
In favor of your argument somewhat, canadian universities are quite parochial when it comes to hiring for teaching jobs - they explicitly favor canadian citizens and canada educated. Strange considering the faculty hired 2 generations ago were mainly british and they`re doing all right.

Re: # 33

Jang, my good French Canadian bud is chief economist for the fisheries in St. Johns, New Foundland, and he makes peanuts compared to his friends in the US. The Canadian market is saturated with too many PhDs and there are very few jobs to go around.

#33 by jang

Jang take note of #32 ...

#32 zeemax...new england is full of french-canadian professionals from mcgill, u sherbrook etc. we make fun of them due to their accent. do you know why they work here and apply for the green-card? because there are not enough opportunities in quebec (and its frozen for 9 months)

....contd...#31

...or better yet, move back to Pakistan and serve your country. What the heck is anyone doing in Canada anyway?

Learn French and move to Montreal. Quebec is another country. It is not North America, it is Europe.

the best assimilation of immigrants is evident in india..thousands of years of history.

saima
apparently all the evidence is that us and canada are doing far better job at integrating immigrants than europe, i personally think UK is getting there as well.

Just wrapping yourself in `Teeranga` does not make you any patriot for your information i have nothing to do with Pakistan.........born and educated in India so i am well aware of strength and weaknesses.....India is totally different country than its neighbour both in size and for that matter everything from econmy to human resources...if you want to compare be more realistic and do that vis vis to China....And if your statistics show Indian immigrants doing well in USA more power to them and my congratulation i being one of them

on the report posted below,

Chart 1: Birthplace of Engineering and Technology Immigrant Founders

India 25%+
IRan: ~2.5~
Pakistan: too low to show on chart...

pg 25:

Chart 10: Intellectual Property Contributions of U.S. Immigrant Non-citizens –
PCT Applications by Nationality – 1998 to 2006

Pakistan doesn`t even show up...

Then there`s this chart on pg 31

Chart 15: Origins of Engineering and Technology Company Immigrant Founders in
Silicon Valley, CA

again...pg 22

Chart 9a: Immigrant-Founder Origins in the Innovation/Manufacturing-Related
Services Field

Pakistan 1%
India 24%

#24 by okhla99 on January 4, 2007 7:30pm PT



That wasn`t my post..this shah dude told someone not to go on like a broken record so I re-copied chaltahai`s post just to get his goat..

in any case, this whole i`m ok you`re ok we are the world attitude of yours isn`t backed up by the facts and the raw data..

take a look at the report posted in #23
http://memp.pratt.duke.edu/downloads/americas_new_immigrant_entrepreneurs.pdf

Indians dominate the field and the number of hi-tech(or otherwise) companies founded by pakis can be counted on the tips of my fingers...of one hand....

Re: # 19

Intelligent person Arjun,

I would disagree with you on this. I have worked with young engineering students of both countries and I find them to be remarkably similar in attitude, approach, capability etc.

I have also met a huge number of decent Indians from different vocations who have been an absolute delight to know, quite unlike the Chowk Indians.

While your witty posts generally have an uncomfortable ring of truth, your attempts to paint ALL Pakistanis as Jehadis are immature and crude. Cool it man.

Re: # 19

Intelligent person Arjun,

I would disagree with you on this. I have worked with young engineering students of both countries and I find them to be remarkably similar in attitude, approach, capability etc.

I have also met a huge number of decent Indians from different vocations who have been an absolute delight to know, quite unlike the Chowk Indians.

While your witty posts generally have an uncomfortable ring of truth, your attempts to paint ALL Pakistanis as Jehadis are immature and crude. Cool it man...

Re: # 4
Ustad Arjun:
here is the URL for the report.
http://memp.pratt.duke.edu/downloads/americas_new_immigrant_entrepreneurs.pdf
Wa Salaam

Kamath

#19...``How do you club ,Indian and Chinese with Pakistanis and Middle easterners..is beyond every``
While you talk about India you probably dont read the news of trains being bombed by Naxalites several of them in one month while i was there in 2005

#15 ....Exactly my point...just b/c i have been sucessful i do not pontify ...as to helping may be others have more substantial work than your``coachings``.....

There is difference between literate and educated too being ....skilled and professional and so on and so on....