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Re-Imagining Pakistan

Pervez Hoodbhoy December 13, 2006

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#477 Posted by majumdar on December 23, 2006 3:27:40 am
Manto mian,

Would appreciate some comments from ur side on my post #449.

Merry X-mas.

Regards
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#476 Posted by MantoLives on December 23, 2006 3:14:51 am
BJKumar,

I agree he is courageous... but is he has courageous as say Farzana Versey who you abused and unleashed all sorts of sexual insults on her for disagreeing with you?

People like you are inherently shameless...
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#474 Posted by bjkumar on December 22, 2006 5:53:46 pm

#472

And how is the view from under those khaki boots?!!

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#473 Posted by bjkumar on December 22, 2006 5:52:36 pm

#472

Actually, the writer is quite courageous. A commodity that Pakistanis like you lack severely. In addition to a few missing brain cells!


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#472 Posted by saimarana on December 22, 2006 5:47:01 pm
i have never seen a coward,hypocrite like the writer of this article.
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#471 Posted by mohar11 on December 22, 2006 9:58:41 am
Syed Dude
[.. The ``majority`` group confesses to follow the book [kamasutra] instead of the Hindian constitution in legal matters as wars and prisoners of war. . ...]

Exactly... if you are jihadi, then hindian constitution is NOT applicable to you... you will be treated as per the recommendation given in our religious book... that`s way things work our land...

That`s fair, you know - if you want to fight a religious war, then we give you religious war... if you are defeated in this religious war - then you will be treated as per our religious Book... don`t ask for our constitution... :)

isn`t it funny - at the first sign of trouble, pakis whine about the constitution... :)
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#475 Posted by ntsyed on December 23, 2006 1:21:39 am
Re: # 471 by mohar11

``Exactly... if you are jihadi, then hindian constitution is NOT applicable to you... you will be treated as per the recommendation given in our religious book... that`s way things work our land...``

Oh....LOL....towing the GWB line [on Geneva Convention] now?

Good luck!

:-)~~
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#479 Posted by mohar11 on December 23, 2006 10:04:29 am
Re: # 475

Yep.

GWB zindabad
Ntsyed murdabad :)
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#483 Posted by ntsyed on December 25, 2006 5:30:41 am
Re: # 479 by mohar11

``GWB zindabad
Ntsyed murdabad :)``


Now where have I seen that before?

Oh yeah....the ostracized 31% of the American constituency, aka the trailer park trash.

Congrats on your acquiring this undesired offical status.

Before I forget, thanks for the compliment. Nothing pleases me more than to have my adversary wish for my death. It demonstrates quite a desperation on his part. Don`t you think?

LOL :-)~~
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#469 Posted by bjkumar on December 22, 2006 3:41:06 am

#465 NTSyed sahib

I am sorry, NTSyed sahib, I am still trying to understand what you wrote here.

So you are admitting that Pakistanis on this web-site are anti-semitic and the reason you are attributing is that a bunch of hooligans on a Jerusalem bus beat up an American tourist?

Is that it?

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#470 Posted by ntsyed on December 22, 2006 9:57:36 am
Re: # 469 by bjkumar

``So you are admitting that Pakistanis on this web-site are anti-semitic and the reason you are attributing is that a bunch of hooligans on a Jerusalem bus beat up an American tourist?

Is that it?``


LOL....you`ve got to be a clown by profession.

I think you should focus on one thread at a time....juggling doesn`t seem to be a part of your routine.

:-)~~
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#466 Posted by philosopher on December 21, 2006 3:20:18 pm
pervez hood bhoy:
SIR there is a line in your article :

[The good news is that, at the level of epistemology, truth in science is ultimately knowable. Post-modernists are up the creek if they think that all scientific knowledge is relative]

what crap is this???????

is that the level of your comprehension of 20th centuray philosophical movements?well guyssssss do u have any clue who is he making fool of.

the gullible laymen? who are completly unawar of philosophical thinking with his pseudo knowledge-plated ignorance.shocking,ridiculous sheer nonsense.he seems to be giving his final verdict on highly philosophical issues of diverse significance.

is he aware of even th basic technical tenets of `sociology of knowledge` what he is ridiculing and rejecting in one sentence?

is there any kinda research of this man which seriously repudiates that highly philosophical descipline?????

if he has got something to say on this issue why hasnt he sent his paper to any well reputed philosophical journal?.

i think that would be a great addition to human thought if editor of the journal find it worth-publishing.
ahhhhhhhhhhhh,amazing
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#462 Posted by bbabu on December 21, 2006 12:40:10 am

New aid crisis in Pakistan
The Pakistani government has blocked food aid to war-torn Balochistan.
By Gretchen Peters | Correspondent of The Christian Science Monitor
ISLAMABAD, PAKISTAN – Pakistan`s military government is preventing aid groups from helping more than 80,000 people - many of them acutely malnourished children - who have been displaced by a widening civil war in remote southern Balochistan, say international aid workers and diplomats.

An internal assessment by the United Nations Children`s Fund (UNICEF), shown to the Monitor, paints a disturbing portrait.
In the Monitor
Thursday, 12/21/06

UNICEF and Pakistan provincial health officials, who surveyed the area in July and August, report that 59,000 of those suffering are women and children and that 28 percent of the children under 5 were ``acutely malnourished.`` Six percent of the children were so underfed that they would die without immediate medical attention.

``I would say this now qualifies as a `crimes against humanity` situation,`` says one foreign observer who has interviewed delegates from the region.

For six months, aid agencies and diplomats have been pressing Pakistan authorities to permit them to distribute aid packages, which include emergency rations, tents, and medicine. The UN won`t deliver aid without permission from the host nation, says Robert van Dijk, the top UNICEF officer for Pakistan.

He and other aid workers say provincial officials have continued to assist his local staff in monitoring conditions in southern Balochistan, but more senior provincial and federal officials have simply refused his requests or derailed efforts with endless bureaucratic hurdles.

``We have tried everything to get our aid there,`` says Mr. van Dijk. ``I even know of aid groups that tried to deliver relief without permits, but they got turned back on the road.``

Meanwhile, reports from the region indicate the situation has grown even more wretched with the onset of winter.

Pakistani authorities have dismissed the UNICEF report as overblown, saying the majority of people in Balochistan were already dirt-poor and nomadic, and that most of those displaced by fighting returned home after an important rebel leader was killed in August.

``This report is untrue,`` said Maj. Gen. Shaukut Sultan, a spokesman for the military. ``Almost all of those people have gone back.``

Van Dijk agrees that some did return home in September, but says a recent UN assessment showed that other villagers have since been displaced.

``When we went back there recently, we found the same numbers of people,`` he says, ``and even worse conditions - among the worst I`ve ever seen.``

Pakistan`s other conflict

Villagers are caught in a conflict between the government and rebel tribesmen, who took up arms last year to demand greater autonomy for the Baloch people and a larger share of the resources in the gas-rich, sparsely populated province.

Vast Balochistan makes up 40 percent of Pakistan`s land area, but is home to only 4 percent of its 170 million people. Because of federal formulas that dole out development funding for roads, schools, and hospitals based on population alone, the impoverished province lags far behind other parts of the country in development and social indicators.

The homelands of the rebel Bugti and Marri tribes sit atop rich oil and gas fields the government wants to exploit.

Their struggle has remained largely out of view of the global media, which focuses instead on Islamabad`s wavering efforts to root out the Taliban and Al Qaeda along the Afghan border.

But it`s grown into a major conflict - and a major challenge for President Pervez Musharraf, who has dispatched thousands of paramilitary troops to put down the rebellion. During 2006, the rebel tribesmen bombed civilian buses, rocketed military bases, and attacked gas pipelines.

In August, a Pakistani military operation killed one of the main rebel leaders, 79-year-old tribal chief Nawab Akbar Khan Bugti. On Tuesday, a former lieutenant of Mr. Bugti, who surrendered to the government in June in return for amnesty, was killed by a land mine.

President Musharraf says tribal chiefs like Bugti keep their people poor and backward in order to maintain control. He has repeatedly pledged to bring development and economic investment to the province.

But Bugti`s death sparked widespread rioting among his supporters in the provincial capital of Quetta, and four months later, the insurgency shows no signs of abating.

Strategic neglect?

Frustrated aid workers and diplomats are increasingly concerned about the widening humanitarian crisis - and furious they are being denied access to the area.

Six months since the UNICEF assessment, a Western diplomat says: ``The UN is now desperate. They are literally begging us for help.``

Just this week, the government abruptly canceled a planned tour to Balochistan by a visiting delegation from the European Commission.

There are aid-worker reports that military trucks rounded up displaced people and hid them ahead of earlier visits by local aid groups.

Why wouldn`t Pakistani authorities let relief workers in to help? ``The official logic is that they can`t guarantee safety for the internationals, or even for local aid groups,`` says Samina Ahmed, head of the International Crisis Group`s (ICG) office in Islamabad.

``The unofficial logic, I suspect, is basically neglect more than anything. This is just not a priority for the government, and they probably hope they will all go back home if everyone ignores them,`` she says.

Compounding the lack of aid access is the fact that the displaced families have decamped across wide, isolated areas.

``These are small groups - some as small as 10 or 50 people,`` says van Dijk. ``And they roam around. They don`t have permanent dwellings.``

In the isolated districts of Naseerabad and Jafarabad, where the bulk of the displaced villagers have gathered, one eyewitness describes the refugees as ``utterly desperate.``

``It`s very upsetting to see children in this state,`` says the local resident, who did not want to be named for fear he would be arrested. ``They have no shelter, little clothing, and almost no food.``

A climate of political oppression, in which more than 150 Baloch activists have been arrested and taken to undisclosed locations, only amplifies the crisis, say human rights workers and opposition politicians.

Some analysts wonder why the UN hasn`t pushed Pakistan on the issue more publicly. ``It`s quite clear that quiet pressure is not working here,`` says one Pakistani political analyst. ``This situation demands a strong, international condemnation.``

Ms. Ahmed of the ICG says that, ``The UN has a mandate and UN agencies have a responsibility to help people. My concern here is that if agencies don`t meet their mandate they lose credibility.``

The UN is not alone in being unable to provide aid. Other organizations, such as Oxfam, CARE, and the International Committee of the Red Cross, have also been trying to gain access to the region.

Baloch politicians meanwhile complain that millions of dollars in US military hardware, given to the Pakistan military to fight Islamic insurgents in the tribal belt, have been diverted to Balochistan and used against the rebel tribes.

``Are the American people aware of how their donations are being used?`` asks a Baloch politician angrily.

As debate over the issue rages behind the scenes, van Dijk says supplies of medicine and food are sitting in Quetta warehouses, and could be distributed in as little as two weeks.

On Wednesday, an hour after the Monitor interviewed van Dijk about the crisis, his office suddenly received a letter from the Pakistani government giving permission to deliver some initial packages.

``This should have happened 10 months ago,`` he says. ``If it would have happened then those children who died would still be alive. I don`t know how many more have died by now.``
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#461 Posted by majumdar on December 20, 2006 9:50:17 pm
Manto mian,

Still at it?

Regards
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#460 Posted by MantoLives on December 20, 2006 9:34:29 pm
Dear follower of the Racist casteist Hindu Fascist bigot Gandhi,

Any thoughts on your blind following of the Gargoyle pre-1947?

By the way they put up another statue of Gandhi in Europe... thought you`d like to see the picture- scroll down






























Gandhiji.
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#463 Posted by Folio on December 21, 2006 4:54:23 am
Re: # 460

Majumdar,

His head is stuck in the arse of Jinnah.
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