Untouchability and Sex

#59
Never expect the lechers from the congress party to acknowledge and accept the achievements of the great PM PVN. The idiots couldn`t even treat him decently even after his death. His body was not even allowed into the AICC office. He wanted his cremation to take place in Delhi and they didn`t allow that either. They brought his body to Hyderabad and cremated there. Nobody, i repeat nobody from the Congress party stayed till the cremation was over completely.The pyre ended even before his body was completely burnt. His half burnt body was lying around on the pyre when some journalists observed and complained then only everyone came running and completed the whole procedure. These bas$#rds insulted him even in his death.

These are the same people who doesn`t get tired of naming every govt scheme in Andhra after Indira and Rajeev Gandhi. The current CM went onto claim that the reforms were started by Rajeev Gandhi implying that all the credit should goto Gandhi family not to PVN. Shame on him for such blatant lies.

Re: # 52
Dear Okhla
Why shouldn`t we tear each other apart? There is nothing pathetic about a good argument. There will be few noxious insults but a debate is perfectly natural.

Tahmed

What is baseless can be too much a function of what some group or person wants to believe. And if we take baseless simply as anything that can be easily shown to be untrue, then there is no difference in the two approaches.

Re: # 58

Heres an example of a lie to support a belief :

A woman named “Lady Hope” spoke to a church group shortly after the death of Charles Darwin. She claimed that she was at Darwin’s bedside on the day of his death. She also claimed that Darwin recanted on evolution and accepted Jesus on his deathbed.

Her claims are not only unsupported, but are directly opposed by Darwin’s daughter, Henrietta.

Henrietta stated “I was present at his deathbed, Lady Hope was not present during his last illness, or any illness. I am upset that the U.S. Christians have fabricated this conversion nonsense. The whole story has no foundation whatever.” February 23, 1922.

srk #45, vrv #54,

Thanks for informing about PV Narsimhan Rao`s acts of bhoo daan. I bet none of the dalitistan/christian websites ever mention such acts which goes against their agenda of painting the whole community black. I`m tired of such propoganda and meaningless trash published all over.

On the other hand, it again reinforces my observation that PVN was the best PM India had. I`d like to see an article on how he, a brahmin, promoted a dalit (Sitaram kesari) to the congress cheif position only to be stabbed in the back. For once he must have thought of ending the sycophant culture in congress. But then our friend kesari`s tail started to wag for the Gandhis again. Rest is history.

Adios

#57 a better definition i think is:

1. A lie is a baseless assertion (at best) of any kind.
2. A belief is a unprovable assertion (at best) that helps mankind deal with some fundamental emotional need, e.g. the emotional need to deal with the awareness of death ``being written for all``, the emotional need for a parental figure ``watching out for us``, the emotional need to deal with fears and uncertainties, the emotional need to elevate animal instincts like the ``herd mentality`` to something more respectable. Beliefs being subjective and not driven by external realities, vary vastly within the same religion and depending on the level of intellectual and emotional development of the individual!!

My profound thought for this sunday. :-)

To prevent misunderstanding, let`s understand a lie. A lie is a deliberate untruth, an assertion that can be established to be untrue with a little bit of effort on anybody`s part.

So ``Christ was the Son of God`` is a belief. ``My horse flies, yours doesn`t``, can be shown to be a lie.

``As a Hindu now and Muslim in my earlier life I do understand this.``

ramchander, Muslim/Hindu will not lie any more than the other, as a simple human being. But ``faith`` has to increase itself. So the faith can be a lier.

Ref okhla99 #52

[Re: # 50

The Indians are tearing each other apart.

Pathetic...]

Shantanu Dutta has demonstrated by the mere act of writing this crap that his allgiance is to Christianity and not to India.

He brings all Indian Christians into disrepute.

I have no problem with Shantanu Dutta practising his religion but he should stop spreading lies about others.

PV. Narasimha rao was a Brahmin landlord owning 1600+ acres of land in Telangana. I dont think they are good farmers nor they got it by gradual increase of their harvest and thereby increase of land holding. These are inaams. These Brahmin landlords are few and far between. There are virtually none in coastal Andhra and Rayala Seema.

Mr. Rao gave away his land during Bhoo Daan movement by Vinoba Bhave, a noted Gandhian. He`s a very special Gandhian so that he had a special hut in Sabarmati Ashram. None other Ashram inmates had a special hut, btw.

As for Brahmins or for that matter previleged people getting sex outside marriage, it`s socailly sanctioned in Andhra to have such pleasures outside marraige. There`s a caste called Bhogam, whose job is to give `practical` lessons in sex to the `to be married` men. Though this caste is a dying breed but they do still exist in some corners of rural pockets.

People who are familiar with Sanskrit dramas and mythology wud be aware that Brahmins too got pleasures from outside sources. They are humans too. Aren`t they?

As for exploitation, all landlords does it. It`s always said abt villages in Andhra that landlord effs the coolie woman in a farmhouse and landlady is effed by the coolie man (housemaid) at home within the four corners of the palatial house.

Outside this topic:

Sex is a two-way thing. Why it`s considered that only men `take` sex and women `dont`?

As Mr. T.E. Shah said on this board:

``..Sex is the `Super God`, which knows no bounds. It can only be appeased not tamed``

There is tussle going on between Islam and Hinduism, Christianty and Hindusism and Islam and Christianity.

Islam and Christianity are quite good at fabricatiing and presenting half facts as facts.

Hinduism does have some very bad aspects but it is the only relegions which gives its adherent to question it openly. Most of the Hindus don`t understand how the Christianty and particularlt Islam manipulates and stuffs up people`s mind. As a Hindu now and Muslim in my earlier life I do understand this.

Re: # 50

The Indians are tearing each other apart.

Pathetic...

Re: # 43
ishwar
Spare us the holier than thou attitude. People will visit prositutes if they have to and its none of anybody`s business.

You may have several points but not a sense of humour.

Jang, is Shah2 a real foosa as in Madagascar? He seems to have all the vices and none of the virtues.

Ref swarrier #21

[Harimau, Shantanu Dutta is a Christian. He has said so on his page.]

Well, I checked his page.

He is also a doctor. Exactly how many brahmins are admitted to medical colleges after your quotas for the mentally retarded which would soon include Christians and Muslims?

He claims he is an underdog. Exactly what is his disadvantage? Maybe he flunked his VQE and so couldn`t get a residency in the US.

Motherf@%*ing minority whiner.

Ref Shah2 #38

[How many Hinju indian willing to bring a christian wife?]

I know of quite a few.

And Hindus are not marrying Christians because our Holy Books give us rights over ``People of the Book``.

Ref Shah2 #44

[#42 If you dont differentiate between a minority girl raped by hegemonous majority and willing porno star exposing then your problem is even bigger]

If you can`t tell the difference between fiction published on a Christian website designed to wring out a few tears and some monetary contributions and facts on the ground, your problems are colossal.