Huntington's Clash of Civilizations Thesis

Hmmm ... no response since 9:13am PT? Ran off I guess to the railtracks .. potty time ..

Go hindoos Go ... chase those rabid dogs in Bhangilauru aka IT BillionairesVille so maybe you can be `cleansed` and `purified` with a bite ....

:~)

...... hahaha ... the 70,000 (+) rabid dogs story of BhangiLauru aka IT BillionairesVille seems to be having the desired effect of hindoos running around for straws to pick ...

A hint ... look around the rail tracks ... you`ll find the straws from the ghaas phoos you ate last night ....

haha ....

:~)

what i dont get is why ummah members are rejecting poor paki migrants? isnt mauritania on the same side of clash of civilizations? its even famous for camels..

from BBC..

``A vessel which broke down with about 200 illegal migrants on board is being refused permission by Mauritania to dock or allow passengers ashore.
The ship is thought to be carrying mostly Pakistani migrants. ``

#167

Haha ... mirchi .. stale joke ...

Haha

:~)

zeemax....woof..

#165

Nope ... not at all.

However ... as I said before ...

Chaach to boley .. chalni kyoon boley?

You guys are effed up to no limit ... there`s simply no comparison ... I mean now rabid dogs are sacred too ...

#164 So your idea of making yourself feel better is to see how much others are ef’d up? That’s a nice way of looking at things – after taking one’s head out I mean. Look ma, no crap.

#163

Hmmm ... Khairlanji ... rings a bell ... ? No? Oh .. Ok ...

www.google.com

:~)

Masadi Saab.. how long are you going to live by this 60’s Marxist garbage that has long lived it’s usefulness (only if it had any). The military-industrial complex is a thing of the early postwar, which is no longer relevant. Today, most damage done to the poor world is being done internally, most of it is faith based, US Power Elite couldn’t do a shyt even if they wanted to. When MukhtaraN Mai is being gang raped by a dozen pious muslim gentlemen (there was a similar case a week ago in Sindh), you can’t blame that on the military-industrial complex of the US Power Elite, but have to look elsewhere (i.e., under your nose). Let me end by quoting Bulleh Shah:

O Bulya, aiwaN uchyaaN phaRda aiN
JeayRa Ghar Baytha, unu PhaRya e Naee

“Try to catch the bird sitting in your backyard instead of trying to catch the one high above in the sky”.

Clash of Civilization was then and ....



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“Aurangzeb, as he was, according to Moghol Records”.
Place: Habitat Centre. Palm Court

Date: 16th to 20th February 2007

Time: 9 Am to 8 Pm

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Aurangzeb as he was according to Mughal Records

Aurangzeb, Emperor Shah Jahan’s sixth son, was born on 24th October 1618 at Dohad in Madhya Pradesh, and wrested India’s crown from his father before the end of June 1658, after defeating his brother Prince Dara Shukoh’s armies, first at Dharmat near Ujjain (15th April 1568) and the second, led by Dara himself, at Samugarh on 29th May 1658. The War of Succession to the richest throne in the world was practically over with this victory, and Aurangzeb secured his position by making Murad, his brother and accomplice in his impetuous pursuit for power, his prisoner, by treachery, on 25th June. He had already made his old father Emperor Shah Jahan a prisoner in the Agra Fort (8th June 1658). Shah Jahan survived his confinement by nearly eight years and the disgraceful manner of his burial (Exhibit No.5) will ever remain a stigma on this unscrupulous son Aurangzeb’s advent to the throne in his father’s life time was not welcomed by the people of India, because of the treacherous manner it was achieved; , but public opinion became all the more hostile towards him when Prince Dara Shukoh, the favourite son of Shah Jahan, the translator of the Upanishads (Exhibit No.2), and a truly liberal and enlightened Musalman, was taken prisoner on the Indian border, as he was going to Persia. Dara was paraded in a most undignified manner on the streets of Delhi on 29th August 1659. The French Doctor, Bernier, was an eye-witness to the scene and was deeply moved by the popular sympathy for Dara (Exhibit No.3) which so much alarmed Aurangzeb that he contrived to have a decree from his Clerics announcing death-sentence for his elder brother on the charge of apostasy (Exhibit No.4).

Throughout the War of Succession, Aurangzeb had maintained that he was not interested in acquiring the throne and that his only object was to ward off the threat to Islam, which was inevitable in case Dara Shukoh came to power. Many, including his brother Murad, were deceived by this posture. After his formal accession in Delhi (5th June 1659) he posed as a defender of Islam who would rule according to the directions of the Shariat, and with the advice of the Clerics or Ulama for whom the doctrines, rules, principles and directives, as laid down and interpreted in the 7th and 8th century Arabia, Persia and Iraq, were inviolable and unchangeable in all conditions, in all countries, and for all times to come.

One of the main objectives of Aurangzeb’s policy was to demolish Hindu temples. When he ordered (13th October 1666) removal of the carved railing, which Prince Dara Shukoh had presented to Keshava Rai temple at Mathura, he had observed “In the religion of the Musalmans it is improper even to look at a temple”, and that it was totally unbecoming of a Muslim to act like Dara Shukoh (Exhibit No.6, Akhbarat, 13th October 1666). This was followed by destruction of the famous Kalka temple in Delhi (Exhibit No.6, 7, 8, Akhbarat, 3rd and 12th September 1667).

In 1669, shortly after the death of Mirza Raja Jai Singh of Amber, a general order was issued (9th April 1669) for the demolition of temples and established schools of the Hindus throughout the empire and banning public worship (Exhibit Nos.9 & 10). Soon after this the great temple of Keshava Rai was destroyed (Jan.-Feb. 1670) (Exhibit No.12) and in its place a lofty mosque was erected. The idols, the author of Maasir-i-Alamgiri informs, were carried to Agra and buried under the steps of the mosque built by Begum Sahiba in order to be continually trodden upon, and the name of Mathura was changed to Islamabad. The painting (Exhibit No.13) is thus no fancy imagination of the artist but depicts what actually took place.

This was followed by Aurangzeb’s order to demolish the highly venerated temple of Vishwanath at Banaras (Persian text, Exhibit No.11), Keshava Rai temple (Jan.-Feb. 1670) (Persian Text, exhibit No.12 and Painting, Exhibit No.13), and of Somanatha (Exhibit No.14). To save the idol of Shri Nathji from being desecrated, the Gosain carried it to Rajputana, where Maharana Raj Singh received it formally at Sihad village, assuring the priest that Aurangzeb would have to trample over the bodies of one lakh of his brave Rajputs, before he couldeven touch the idol (Exhibit No.15)

Aurangzeb’s zeal for temple destruction became much more intense during war conditions. The opportunity to earn religious merit by demolishing hundreds of temples soon came to him in 1679 when, after the death of Maharaja Jaswant Singh of Jodhpur in the Kabul Subah, he tried to eliminate the Rathors of Marwar as a political power in Rajputana. But Maharana Raj Singh of Mewar, in line with the great traditions of his House, came out in open support of the Rathors.. This led to war with both Mewar and Marwar during which the temples built on the bank of Rana’s lake were destroyed by his orders (Exhibit No.23, Akhbarat 23rd December 1679) and also about three hundred other temples in the environs of Udaipur. (Exhibit No.25, Text), including the famous Jagannath Rai temple built at a great cost in front of the Maharana’s palace which was bravely defended by a handful of Rajputs (Exhibit Nos.20, 21).

Not only this, when Aurangzeb visited Chittor to have a view of the famous fort, he ordered the demolition of 63 temples there which included some of the finest temples of Kumbha’s time (Exhibit No.22). From Marwar (in Western Rajasthan) alone were brought several cart-loads of idols which, as per Aurangzeb’s orders, were cast in the yard of the Court and under the steps of Jama Masjid (Exhibit No.19). Such uncivilized and arrogant conduct of the Mughal Emperor alienated Hindus for ever, though they continued to be tolerant towards his creed.

In June 1681, orders, in a laconic two-liner, were given for the demolition of the highly venerated Jagannath Temple in Orissa (Exhibit No.24, Akhbarat, 1st June 1681)., Shortly afterwards, in September 1682, the famous Bindu-Madhav temple in Banaras was also demolished as per the Emperor’s orders (Exhibit No.27, Akhbarat, Julus 26, Ramzan 20). On 1st September 1681, while proceeding to the Deccan, where his rebel son Prince Akbar, escorted by Durga Das Rathore, had joined Chhatrapati Shivaji’s son, Shambhaji, thus creating a serious problem for him, Aurangzeb ordered that all the temples on the way should be destroyed. It was a comprehensive order not distinguishing between old and newly built temples (Exhibit No.26, Akhbarat, Julus 25, Ramzan 18). But in the district of Burhanpur, where there were a large number of temples with their doors closed, he preferred to keep them as such, as the Muslims were too few in number in the district. (Exhibit No.28, Akhbarat 13th October 1681). In his religious frenzy, even temples of the loyal and friendly Amber state were not spared, such as the famous temple of Jagdish at Goner near Amber (Exhibit Nos.30, Akhbarat, 28th March and 14th May 1680). In fact, his misguided ardour for temple destruction did not abate almost up to the end of his life, for as late as 1st January 1705 we find him ordering that the temple of Pandharpur be demolished and the butchers of the camp be sent to slaughter cows in the temple precincts (Akhbarat 49-7).

The number of such ruthless acts of Aurangzeb make a long list but here only a few have been mentioned, supported by evidence, mostly contemporary official records of Aurangzeb’s period and by such credible Persian sources as Maasir-i-Alamgiri.

I In obedience to the Quranic injunction, he reimposed Jizyah on the Hindus on 2nd April 1679 (Exhibit No.16), which had been abolished by Emperor Akbar in 1564, causing widespread anger and resentment among the Hindus of the country .A massive peaceful demonstration against this tax in Delhi, was ruthlessly crushed (Exhibit No.17), This hated tax involved heavy economic burden on the vast number of the poor Hindus and caused humiliation to each and every Hindu (Exhibit No.18). In the same vein, were his discriminatory measures against Hindus in the form of exemption of the Muslims from the taxes (Exhibit No.31, Akhbarat 16th April 1667) ban on atishbazi and restriction on Diwali (Exhibit No.32), replacement of Hindu officials by Muslims so that the Emperor’s prayers for the welfare of Muslims and glory of Islam, which were proving ineffective, be answered (Exhibit Nos.33, 34). He also imposed a ban on ziyarat and gathering of the Hindus at religious shrines, such as of Shitla Mata and folk Gods like Pir Pabu (Exhibit No.35, Akhbarat 16th September 1667), another ban on their travelling in Palkis, or riding elephants and Arab-Iraqi horses, as Hindus should not carry themselves with the same dignity as the Muslims! (Exhibit No.36). In the same vein came brazen attempts to convert Hindus by inducement, coercion (Exhibit No.41) or by offering Qanungoship (Exhibit No.44, 45, 46) and to honour the converts in the open Court. His personal directions were that a Hindu male be given Rs.4 and a Hindu female Rs.2 on conversion (Exhibit No.43,Akhbarat 7th April 1685). “Go on giving them”, Aurangzeb had ordered when it was reported to him that the Faujdar of Bithur, Shaikh Abdul Momin, had converted 150 Hindus and had given them naqd (cash) and saropas (dresses of honour) (Exhibit No.40, Akhbarat, 11th April 1667). Such display of Islamic orthodoxy by the State under Aurangzeb gave strength and purpose to the resistance movements such as of the Marathas, the Jats, the Bundelas and the Sikhs (Exhibit No.46). .

On the 12th May 1666, the dignity with which Shivaji carried himself in the Mughal court and defied the Emperor’s authority, won him spontaneous admiration of the masses. Parkaldas, an official of Amber (Jaipur State) wrote in his letter dated 29th May 1666, to his Diwan. “Now that after coming to the Emperor’s presence Shivaji has shown such audacity and returned harsh and strong replies, the public extols him for his bravery all the more …” (Exhibit No.37). When Shivaji passed away on April 1680 at the age of 53 only, he had already carved a sufficiently large kingdom, his Swarajya, both along the western coast and some important areas in the east as well.

Aurangzeb could never pardon himself for his negligence in letting Shivaji escape from his well laid trap and wrote in his Will (Exhibit No.48) that it made him “to labour hard (against the Marathas) to the end of my life (as a result of it)”. He did not realize that it was his own doing: the extremely cruel manner – even for those times - in which he put to death Shivaji’s son, Shambhaji (Exhibit No.38) made the Maratha king a martyr in the eyes of the masses and with that commenced the People’s War in Maharashtra and the Deccan which dug the grave of the Mughal empire.

Till the very end Aurangzeb never understood that the main pillars of the government are the affection and support of the people and not mere compliance of the religious directives originating from a foreign land in the seventh-eighth centuries.

His death after a long and ruinous reign lasting half a century, ended an eventful epoch in the history of India . He left behind a crumbling empire, a corrupt and inefficient administration, a demoralized army, a discredited government facing public bankruptcy and alienated subjects, .

With due respect to hamidm and his friends .... looks like from now on it should be more appropriately termed as ``Crash of Civilization`` instead of ``Clash`` since the Jehadis seem to have come up with Ground/Air missiles ...

Recent U.S. helicopter losses due to ground fires:

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - All four U.S. helicopters which have crashed in Iraq since Jan. 20 appear to have been brought down by ``some kind`` of ground fire but it is unclear whether this represents any new threat to U.S. aviation, the chief U.S. military spokesman said Sunday.

It was the first time that the U.S. command has publicly acknowledged that the three Army and one private helicopters were probably shot down.

Maj. Gen. William Caldwell told reporters that the investigations into the crashes are incomplete but ``it does appear they were all the result of some kind of anti-Iraqi ground fire that did bring those helicopters down.``

#154 by sunlight

People credit Mao with overthrow of feudalism, but credit Deng (and his pragmatic economic policies) with having made China into a superpower.

Sure. But does anyone believe Deng could have made China into a Superpower without Mao having first brutally uprooted the very foundations of feudalism in their entirety and re-training the nation in a work culture instead of a culture of serfs?

:~)

#151 by masadi

Masadi Mian,

Chaach to boley .. chalni kyoon boley?

It is kind of funny that a person like BJKumar who pretends to be a writer but actually is a plagiarist is criticizing your article. It is on record that he was caught red handed after having lifted entire complete sentences for his article `The Eternal Knight` from Farzana Versey`s poem `The Half Night`. However I`m sure the title was pure coincidece :~)

......``I feel very strongly about dogs on the roads,`` commissioner Jairaj told IPS.

That`s a real BLAST ..... Haha ... sorry ... cough ... sorry ... cough ......cough...

#149 by ijaz_gul

The full story is here to make benefit of bhangilauru aka `IT` BillionnairesVille.

.... No wonder ther`re so many rabid dogs around here ... haha ...

DEVELOPMENT-INDIA:
IT Hub Can Handle Gigabytes, Not Dog Bites
Keya Acharya

BANGALORE, Jan 17 (IPS) - When a pack of stray dogs tore to pieces the eight-year-old daughter of a construction worker, it showed up the social inequalities and other paradoxes of this global information technology (IT) hub.

Construction for as many as 14 traffic-easing underpasses promised by the municipality is languishing because of delays in firming up proposals, floating tenders, issuing work orders and actual execution. And only one of 11 major road projects, promised several years ago, has been completed.

Aside from the serious infrastructural woes that global IT names have been complaining about, authorities seem incapable of doing anything about packs of stray dogs, estimated to number around 71,000, marauding through the streets and inflicting at least 3,000 bites per month on a helpless public.

India already has the word`s highest number of dog-bites, 17.6 million annually. It also accounts for 80 percent of the world`s rabies cases according to the Association for Prevention and Control of Rabies in India (APCRI).

In Bangalore, 45 percent of dog-bite victims are slum children playing on streets in low-income areas which are a world away from the affluent or those who earn global salaries in the IT sector, says Dr. B. J. Mahendra, professor of community medicine at Bangalore`s Kempegowda Medical Institute and president of APCRI.

Professionals with a few years` experience command annual pay packets of 50,000 US dollars or more in Bangalore, making it a magnet for qualified workers and yet stay competitive for global IT majors that outsource work this way. The trend has even resulted in the coinage of the term ‘Bangalored` to describe the global shift in IT and IT-enabled services away from developed countries.

But, few notice the armies of labourers, construction workers, cleaners and helpers that make it possible for this IT hub to keep turning, by making do with dirt poor wages and putting up with living conditions unimaginable in the countries that get Bangalored.

According to APCRI the municipality`s estimate of 71,000 strays in the city is ‘grossly underestimated`. Either way city authorities are now facing a barrage of protests over the death of the girl who was attacked on a busy, public street while carrying her father`s lunch to him.

The issue has snowballed into a crisis for Bangalore`s municipal commissioner, K. Jairaj, who now faces charges in the Karnataka state high court for neglecting human life by allowing stray dogs free run of the city.

``It is shameful that the child`s death was compensated with a mere Rs 100,000 (2,252 dollars) by the authorities,`` says Vatsala Dhananjay of a civic group, Stray Dog Free Bangalore (SDFB). ``The least the municipality can do is fix a more realistic rate of compensation.``

The SDFB is now planning to petition the country`s National Human Rights Commission to intervene in helping remove the city`s stray dog menace.

And yet, the city`s municipality is prevented from doing more than to sterilise and release the dogs because of protests from animal-rights organisations, most of them run by wealthy and influential socialites who have managed to bring stray dogs under the ambit of the country`s Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Act of 1960.

``I feel very strongly about dogs on the roads,`` commissioner Jairaj told IPS. ``But we have legal and social problems against removing them.``

So, while the salaries and lifestyles in the city`s IT industry surpass those in many developing countries, the father of the unfortunate girl, as a member of the city`s unorganised but vast workforce, has little hope of adequate compensation.

Apart from petitioning the NHRC, the ‘anti-stray` group also has plans to take the municipality to court for violation of the fundamental rights of its citzens. `` If the government won`t see to the rights of the poor, some of us need to take responsibility,`` says Diana Bharucha of the SDFB.

While the IT sector enjoys enormous clout, what matters most to it is greater attention by the government to research and development and creation of manpower needed to maintain a high growth curve. ``It`s mediocrity (of workers)and complacency that we need to address,`` says D.N. Prahlad of Surya Software Systems.

Global software giants like Wipro and Infosys have created vast modern air-conditioned campuses in which it is possible to maintain an international ambience for their carefully selected employees and complain only about the potholes on the roads that lead to the airport and the disconcerting view of slums and unfinished construction.

Many are satisfied that the government is constructing a 30 km-long dedicated expressway that will connect a spanking new airport to the city centre, bypassing the traffic jams and human misery.

``If the IT multi-national corporations (MNCs) were unhappy with Bangalore`s infrastructure, they would not be in the expansion mode,`` says J. Parthasarathy, director of the government-owned Software Technology Park, at Whitefield in Bangalore which houses over 1,800 companies with 400,000 professionals on its sprawling premises.

But the president of the federation of Karnataka`s chambers of commerce, R.C. Purohit, admits that the IT sector, which is responsible for a good deal of the city`s congestion and deteriorating conditions, needs to participate more actively in urban planning and the society it works in. ``The IT sector has to understand its public responsibilities.``

``Our physical infrastructure is bad, yes,`` says Chamaraj Reddy of the Builders` Association of India. ``But being killed and menaced by stray dogs on the roads is even worse.``

... cough ... haha

Some more on the clash of civilizations:
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Ann Jones on the Nightmare of Afghan Women http://tomdispatch.com/index.mhtml?pid=163092

Last year in Herat, as I was walking with an Afghan colleague to a meeting on women`s rights, I spotted an ice cream vendor in the hot, dusty street. I rushed ahead and returned with two cones of lemony ice. I held one out to my friend. ``Forgive me,`` she said. ``I can`t.`` She was wearing a burqa.

It was a stupid mistake. I`d been in Afghanistan a long time, in the company every day of women encased from head to toe in pleated polyester body bags. Occasionally I put one on myself, just to get the feel of being stifled in the sweaty sack, blind behind the mesh eye mask. I`d watched women trip on their burqas and fall. I`d watched women collide with cars they couldn`t see. I knew a woman badly burned when her burqa caught fire. I knew another who suffered a near-fatal skull fracture when her burqa snagged in a taxi door and slammed her to the pavement as the vehicle sped away. But I`d never before noted this fact: it is not possible for a woman wearing a burqa to eat an ice cream cone.
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It`s true that after the fall of the Taliban lots of women in the capital went back to work in schools, hospitals, and government ministries, while others found better paying jobs with international humanitarian agencies. In 2005, thanks to a quota system imposed by the international community, women took 27% of the seats in the lower house of the new parliament, a greater percentage than women enjoy in most Western legislatures, including our own. Yet these hopeful developments are misleading.

The fact is that the ``liberation`` of Afghan women is mostly theoretical. The Afghan Constitution adopted in 2004 declares that ``The Citizens of Afghanistan -- whether man or woman -- have equal Rights and Duties before the Law.`` But what law? The judicial system -- ultra-conservative, inadequate, incompetent, and notoriously corrupt -- usually bases decisions on idiosyncratic interpretations of Islamic Sharia, tribal customary codes, or simple bribery. And legal ``scholars`` instruct women that having ``equal Rights and Duties`` is not the same as being equal to men.
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Afghan women of the Kabul elite haven`t yet caught up to where they were thirty-five years ago. But once again ultra-conservatives are up in arms. This time it`s the Taliban, back in force throughout the southern half of the country. Among their tactics: blowing up or burning schools (150 in 2005, 198 in 2006) and murdering teachers, especially women who teach girls. UNICEF estimates that in four southern provinces more than half the schools -- 380 out of 748 -- no longer provide any education at all. Last September the Taliban shot down the middle-aged woman who headed the provincial office for women`s affairs in Kandahar. A few brave colleagues went back to the office in body armor, knowing it would not save them. Now, in the southern provinces -- more than half the country -- women and girls stay home.