Psychology of Guerrilla War

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Re: # 122
dear shabha....i did not respond to urstruly comment as i accepted it as his opinion and he

has a right to his opinion. now that you are asking my opinion about his opinion let me

share that i feel that an action can be judged by three criteria

.....intention of the person or the group...

.....process

.....results

i think socialist revolution had an intention to change an oppressive system and replace it

with a just system. i liked that intention. but in the process communist ideology used the

weapon of anger, resentment and hatred towards the oppressor and when we mobilize

people with anger and hatred then it results in excessive use of force and violence and the

leader loses control.

even in independence of india mohandas gandhi was warned by rabindranath tagore in

1931 that if he mobilizes muslims and hindus of india by their hatred towards british then

the day british leave the hatred will spill over and they will kill each other. nehru stated that

he did not agree with tagore in 1931 and supported gandhi but what happened in 1947

made him remember tagore`s prophecy.

we have seen many revolutions that are based on hatred and cause violence.

i am more in favour of education and evolution based on caring and compassion for all

humanity rather than bloody revolution serving one group or ideology whether it is on the

name of islam or atheism. democracy or communism. i mentioned mandela in my article

because after he forgave whites and had a genuine dialogue with other black leader and

white government he not only won nobel peace prize but also had democratic multi party

elections. in south africa. mandela...de klark...and butulezi....had a peaceful dialogue but

gandhi...jinnah....and mountbaten could not resolve their conflicts peacefully and thousands

of innocent muslims, hindus and sikhs were slaughtered on the altar of freedom and

independence. i hold all parties responsible for that massacre. final question for all of us

is...are ideologies...whether left or right.... more important than human lives?

sincerely sohail

``Lennin`s gurella struggle is valid even though it also resulted in a regressive and oppressive empire that lasted 90 yaers`` (urstruly).
drsohail, would ya plz comment.

Regards.

God receptor in the brain and talking to myself

First, it’s not talking to myself that is worrisome. But watch out when I start responding to that self-talk. That’s when real trouble begins.

Actually, I didn’t realize that I was talking to myself. Then I remembered that “god lives within each of us”. Where, I asked myself, does he/me live inside me/he? It must be the brain… remember, “I think therefore I am?”

So, is there a real “God receptor” in the brain? Short answer: I don’t know. No one really knows. No one has identified it under a scanning electron microscope. Or spotted it in a PET scan using radio-ligands, or whathave you. The so-called “god gene,” which in itself stands on an unstable foundation, subject to re-interpretation, is assumed to have expressed itself via a receptor protein.

Thus my understanding of the “god receptor” is that it’s a conceptual construct, roughly derived from meta-analysis. A hazy mountain made from a solid mole hill, if you will. An “extrapolation” based on sketchy experimental evidence. Sort of like connecting the dots and making a picture. But if there is a cluster of dots then the picture can potentially take various shapes.

The longer answer takes two pages of typing so I’ll rest it here for the moment.

…SR

Sohail sahib very creative angle -- but may be it is asking too much to expect one day a Nelson Mandela will emerge from this gorilla warfare between the Islamist primates and the Christian Ape-man from Crawford Texas.

This is why means are as important as the ends – It’s called Marx’s sweet revenge….

Re: # 118
dear shah 2.....sohail2
sohail rabbani....
khalid sohail......

jogander paul....a famous short story writer has a short short short story that is

i dialed my own phone enumber
and got it engaged.....

smiles....sohail
ps....like your sense of humour

#113 by drsohail on February 12, 2007 6:55pm PT
Re: # 112
Dear Sohail Rabbani....can you share more about your understanding of God Receptor in

the brain....sincerely khalid sohail
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#112 by SR on February 12, 2007 6:08pm PT

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I dont understand if Sr is Dr Sohail Rabbani why is he talking to himself

#105 by drsohail

Yaar Dr. Sohail .. itney natraaz mat hoiey ... after all, how many nice people do you find on Chowk? It is gaalum galoch most of the time but one gleans something through a baptism of fire ... A debate does not have to be friendly or civilized here, but just a debate.

Now may I please have my answers? Thanks.

BTW: When Iqbal said ``waiy nakami mata-e-karawan jata raha, karawan kay dil say ehsaas-e-zian jata raha``, he was lamenting on the loss of the great Islamic empires, and not any esoteric notions of peace or something like that.

Re: # 97
`` The muslim elites are not able to provide a decent life or even attempt to provide a decent life to their people. Thats why they use the afterlife as a tool to misguide the people into fighting and suicide bombings.``

I agree. Infact the Islamists are in the fore front of trying to be the ``elites`` aiming at capture of temporal power by misguiding youths with their nonsense.
If you find some Pakistani spouting this nonsense, be sure that he is trying to get to the top of the Ummah`s elite circle.

#106 by ranjit

The analogy with sleep is invalid. In sleep one does not have out of body experiences. In death or close to it one does. There are thousand of published examples of people who had out of body experiences while clinically dead ... i.e. NDEs.

Rgds

Re: # 113

drsohail,

........ i am surprised that being a shrink you do not know what is a god receptor ! ......... i guess in your lingo this affliction is called schizophrenia .........

Re: # 112
Dear Sohail Rabbani....can you share more about your understanding of God Receptor in

the brain....sincerely khalid sohail

Re: # 110 abu safwan {``...If there’s no reckoning after this life than hordes of human beings who are miserable thru no fault of their own at the hands of oppressors in all shape, sizes, religion, sexes etc. got a really shitty deal and they had no say in it. That doesn’t make any sense. The concept of after-life and settling the score with oppressors what keeps me sane, otherwise at least I would be a very unhappy existance ...``}

So you are saying that this faith is like a balm.. that makes life bearable. ``Opium of the masses`` in other words. Is that what you meant?

This is called the ``Argument of Justice`` ...briefly: (i) There is lots of injustice in the world.
(ii) But God is (a) just and (b) omnipotent.

Therefore, according to the argument of justice, there must be a redress against worldly injustice in the afterlife.

Naturally follows that there is an afterlife and there will be justice, paradise, hell etc. etc. If you accept (i) and (ii) it all follows very neatly and logically.

But as to its validity? That`s the sticky part and can neither be proved or disproved. This is the limit of logic. Either you believe or you don`t. And that mostly depends on your upbringing and socialization. Psychoneuropharmacologists claim they have also identified a ``God receptor`` in the brain, akin to the known 300 or so ``Cluster of Diffrentiation`` markers on the cellular surface. Some have it, some don`t.

...SR

Re:abu_safwaan#110

[..See the problem with you hindus is that by and large you have never stood up to anyone, you just go along with status quo, muslims kept on molesting you for centuries, you were a clear majority but just didn’t have the kahonees to stand up....]

Abu, we are not talking about armed resistance against injustice. That is certainly valid and makes sense. I am talking about launching aggressive attacks on others who do not share your beliefs via jihadi activities. Your own statement that ``muslims kept on molesting you for centuries`` is what I am talking about. What makes muslims molest non-muslims in the hope of getting divine blessings? Why this aggression and hatred, to the point that you are willing to give up your own life to harm lots of innocent people and destroy their way of life? Is it worth it if you are not even sure you will get anything for it in your next life, if at all there is a next life?

Jihadi muslims need to ask themselves - why are they doing what they are doing to this day? what is the point of so much destruction? why not live and let live? Yes, hindus did not fight back as hard as they should have. The reason is that we have never stooped down to committing mass scale atrocities to match muslims. In any other country, if there had been a religion based partition, the minority community would have been kicked out lock stock and barrel. We took the higher road, adopting secularism and at least trying to forge a nation with muslims. You can say that we are fools for doing so, anyone else would have committed genocide. But that is ok, we are at peace with ourselves and we feel that God has been kind to us, which is why our country is doing so well now. As compared to that, look at the state of Afghanistan which used to send muslim attackers on Pakistan and India. Look at their pathetic condition today. There is divine justice but it doesnt come from blowing up people but by good karma.

[Last time I checked the Jhopar bhatis and shudars in india werent keen on doing Jihad, are they enjoying there lives?]

No they are not. But is the answer to blow up other innocent people or to acquire an education and pull yourselves up by the bootstraps? As far as I know, even the Islamic jihad concept is to strive for improvement in your life, not to blow up others. If you want to misinterpret it to give sanction to violence and extremism, then you are just giving an excuse to exercise your baser instincts.

Re: # 106

Ranjit,

You said “What If you never wake up after death”, what if you do? And it’s everything that Muslims believe come to fruition? But our debate shouldn’t be about “What If’s” because that’ll go in rounds. The debate should be about happiness in this world. What makes you think that a Practicing Muslim is not a happy human being. That’s where your bigotry becomes an issue. Jihaad is just a word my friend that the world has made it in to this cuss word. Forget about Jihaad, lets talk about armed struggles of other nations, when they stand up to claim their right. When they stand in front of the oppressor and demand that they be treated with respect or else? See the problem with you hindus is that by and large you have never stood up to anyone, you just go along with status quo, muslims kept on molesting you for centuries, you were a clear majority but just didn’t have the kahonees to stand up.

Resistance is not an Islamic phenomenon it’s a human one. When you push someone in to the corner at some point they will push back. Kamikaze’s werent muslims, tamil’s arent, IRA wasn’t. At some point they just said that respectful existence is more imp. To just existance and they demanded respect, that’s what its all about, resisting against the oppressor.

Another point about living, enjoying our lives with our families rather than going for jihaad. Last time I checked the Jhopar bhatis and shudars in india werent keen on doing Jihad, are they enjoying there lives? Because according to your logic, you either opt for jiaahd and if you don’t world transforms itself in to Disney land for you and your family, I wish it was that simple. If there’s no reckoning after this life than hordes of human beings who are miserable thru no fault of their own at the hands of oppressors in all shape, sizes, religion, sexes etc. got a really shitty deal and they had no say in it. That doesn’t make any sense. The concept of after-life and settling the score with oppressors what keeps me sane, otherwise at least I would be a very unhappy existance.

Re: # 71 hamidm {``...as for these girls, they should be sent to hira mandi lahore for re-education...``}

What a terribly moronic suggestion... Don`t you know that even one bad fish can spoil the whole pond. Here you are talking about a whole school (no pun intended) of venemous black fish. These Ninjas are a highly virulent pathogens. I know from personal experience, because we`ve had the misfortune in our own family.

How very irresponsible of you to suggest send them in the shadow of the Shahi Masjid Do you want to risk destroying the last sanctuary of tehzeeb-o-tamadun in that beleagured country? If, heaven forbid, Tibbi also succumbs to the ways of Al pHuda, then there will be no hope left for the future and all color will simply turn to drab black-and-white.

...SR