Pataudi’s Plight : The game of religious stereo typing

#17 By that extension sharmila tagore ,Ratna( mrs NasiruddinShah)and many females indian married to muslims are prostitutes.?.i dont think so .... you will lose half the vote in india

#17, {``Sooar Ka Bacha Aurangzeb had Rajput prostitutes as female ancestors. There is nothing to be proud of in that case. ...
Not one Mughal gave his daughter / sister to a Hindu. They simply picked up the women of servile Hindus, impregnated them and made them Muslim.
...The biggest insult is yours, when you want us to accept that interloper as a legitimate ruler, simply because a few Rajput women prostituted themselves to Mughal conquerers. ``}

Stuka,
Please restrain yourself. :) It is unfortunate that you have the audacity to judge historical figures and their occupations based on your right-wing Hindutva RSS/BJP/VHP/JS/BD/SS beliefs. Just like the bigots who tear down monuments, rename cities and streets, and rewrite history, you are making a spectacle of yourself and your ``born again`` religious intolerance.

As for your claim about Mughals not ``giving`` daughter/sister to a Hindu, you are somewhat mistaken. Shah-en-Shah Jalaluddin Mohammed Akbar ``gave`` a Muslim bride to the famous musician and vocalist Tan Sen.

I am surprised to note that you consider any woman who marries a person of another faith a prostitute? Let`s see ....Sonia Gandhi, Nargis, Madhubhala, Mrs. Hritik Roshan, Mrs. Shah Rukh Khan, and numerous others - including two of my own female Rajput cousins.

May BagOne cure you of your bigotry and intolerance.

``Firstly, Maharaja Aurangjeb was more Rajput in blood than Mongol. Both his grandmother and great grandmother were Hindu Rajput. :)
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Sooar Ka Bacha Aurangzeb had Rajput prostitutes as female ancestors. There is nothing to be proud of in that case.

Not one Mughal gave his daughter / sister to a Hindu. They simply picked up the women of servile Hindus, impregnated them and made them Muslim.

I disagree with Sanatani that Aurangzeb was a Muslim and that was his taint. I think Aurangzeb was a bigot. That was his major taint. I think Aurangzeb considered himself a Muslim first, an Indian second. That was his other taint.

The biggest insult is yours, when you want us to accept that interloper as a legitimate ruler, simply because a few Rajput women prostituted themselves to Mughal conquerers.

Re: # 12
How does my belief in re-incarnation and some of India`s population not believeing in it (xtians, buddhists, jews, parsis) refute the point in #11 ? I understand you have a missing bodypart in your pants, but does that mean you HAVE to remain what you are ?

If you have nothing to say, farting should not be considered a substitute ...

#14 {``Firstly even if ...aurangzeb was a Rajput he had two taints one minor the other major (something like jihad lesser and gr8r) the minor his mongol blood and the Major islam.

Second you are believing the snake oil sellers that circumcision reduces the chances of AIDS so be it. AIDS is prevented never reduced.

Thirdly it is NOT offensive that you do Prayaschit it is the right and true thing to do. Satya karva hota hai galat nahin (Truth is bitter never wrong).

...And BhrataShri if you choose Salim katua to ham Salim Katue ke liye ro lenge. ``}

Shri Bagone Sanatani,

Thirdly, I am surprised that a mahan Sanskriti acharya like yourself would use the purely Arabic word ``ghalat.`` :)

Firstly, Maharaja Aurangjeb was more Rajput in blood than Mongol. Both his grandmother and great grandmother were Hindu Rajput. :)

Secondly, don`t tell me I didn`t warn you about circumspection and AIDS - it`s not too late to get a suntan. :)

Lastly, please tell me the meaning of ``Katue.`` If it is what I think it is, my friend, you may be barking up the wrong tree. :)

Ohm Ohm Ohm - Peace should never be resisted. :)

Re: # 13

Bhrata Shri Chauhan,

Firstly even if Badshah (not and most certainly not Maharaj) aurangzeb was a Rajput he had two taints one minor the other major (something like jihad lesser and gr8r) the minor his mongol blood and the Major islam.

Second you are believing the snake oil sellers that circumcision reduces the chances of AIDS so be it. AIDS is prevented never reduced.

Thirdly it is NOT offensive that you do Prayaschit it is the right and true thing to do. Satya karva hota hai galat nahin (Truth is bitter never wrong).

And chief by knowing the truth and not accepting it you are much more in the wrong.

We have shown you the way the choice is yours Bhrata Chauhan or Salim katua.

And BhrataShri if you choose Salim katua to ham Salim Katue ke liye ro lenge.

Regards
Sanatani
P.S. The last line is a take on the movie Salim Langde pe mat ro

Sanatani #9 {``The problem my dear chap is Islam not Muslims, or should I say it is not Chauhan it is Salim. ..And pls no bullsh!!t about how 12times Gr8 grand pappy was impressed by Aurangzebs pety and converted. Actuaaly what happened was that after yrs of producing valiant braves your Clan produced a scum weakling who thought it better to cut of his foreskin than his head. ...
Possibly you can reverse this let them cut my head but not my son`s foreskin. Purvajon ke pappon ka prayaschit karna har vanshaj ka dharam hai``}

Shri Sanatani Ji,

Bohot bohot dhannewaad aapne hamaari or humaare pariwaar ki chinta ki. :)

When I do have a son, I am seriously thinking about not foresaking his foreskin. However, the latest positive health reports about circumspection and decreased occurence of AIDS do have me concerned about preserving the fold.

As far as Prayashit is concerned, I find that prospect rather offensive, whether it is ours or paraya.

Thank you for your advice, but did you know that Maharaja Aurangjeb was also a Rajput?

#11 i know u believe in reincarnation but not all of India....we have seen the worst in Arjun that u can dish
in reincarnation of him....

Re: # 10

> ...India is not Synononymous wih Hindu ..
True.

> although you wish it was ...
we have no problems with it being synonymous with hindus, xtians, buddhists, jains, sikhs.
we only have problems with it having any trace of islam. The rest, we know, will live together
and keep strengthening this great civilization.
I dont need to tell you about Islam.

Have a nice day.

Shaitan``http://koenraadelst.voiceofdharma.com/articles/misc/PakiComeHome.html ``

Next you will be quoting Sitaram Goel ,Gawalker, Shiv Sena Bal Thackeray....

Its not question of Hindu being Hindu ...India is not Synononymous wih Hindu althoughyou wish it was

Re: # 4

``These Muslim clerics are an embarassment to themselves and those they profess to speak for``. The clerics may be an embarassment but Islam to put it mildly is an pestilence.

The problem my dear chap is Islam not Muslims, or should I say it is not Chauhan it is Salim.

A nice link for your reference.

http://koenraadelst.voiceofdharma.com/articles/misc/PakiComeHome.html

Awaiting yur return.

Regards
Sanatni

And pls no bullsh!!t about how 12times Gr8 grand pappy was impressed by Aurangzebs pety and converted. Actuaaly what happened was that after yrs of producing valiant braves your Clan produced a scum weakling who thought it better to cut of his foreskin than his head.

Possibly you can reverse this let them cut my head but not my son`s foreskin. Purvajon ke pappon ka prayaschit karna har vanshaj ka dharam hai

Re: # 6

Ek bangali Isai bantaa hai aur profartic abrahmic creeds ko Dharam se compare karta hai aur mulya tathyo ke bare me janta nahin.

Doosra kaminist banta hai aur dharam ko hi gali deta hai.

Throw Bengal out of the Union. Give all Probasi Bengalis a one way ticket to West Bangla and separate Gorkhaland from them.

Sanatani

Re: # 6

NEED WE REPEAT?


An emphatic YES!

RELIGION HAS OUTLIVED ITS UTILITY


NEED WE REPEAT?

Shantanu Dutta is a Bengali sounding name.

Shantanu Dutta

No one, except the Islamic Republic of Pakiland, has the legitimate authority to determine who is and who is not a Muslim.

Having gotten that piece of wisdom off my chest, may I ask if the last name Dutta is the same as Dutt and does that make you a Hussaini Brahmin?

No malice intended. By the way, I agree with your article. These Muslim clerics are an embarassment to themselves and those they profess to speak for.