Pataudi’s Plight : The game of religious stereo typing
Shantanu Dutta February 14, 2007
#35 Posted by subhashjoshi on March 5, 2007 8:31:32 am
Re: # 34
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#33 Posted by teshah on February 21, 2007 7:08:26 pm
Re: # 31
Quran says ``Those who are `killed` in the way of Allah Should not be called dead``. Why then a Muslim who kills himself in a `jehadi` mission leading to `Shahadat` (martyrdom) be called `khud kush` when he is not dying but going straight to heaven for a life of eternal bliss.
Quran says ``Those who are `killed` in the way of Allah Should not be called dead``. Why then a Muslim who kills himself in a `jehadi` mission leading to `Shahadat` (martyrdom) be called `khud kush` when he is not dying but going straight to heaven for a life of eternal bliss.
#32 Posted by nb on February 20, 2007 1:18:07 am
Re: # 26
I feel very frustrated in crowded public transport as well, how come no one cares about me?
I feel very frustrated in crowded public transport as well, how come no one cares about me?
#31 Posted by mystical_facet on February 19, 2007 6:53:17 pm
Ref # 29
Sure some of them have a clear view of what they want to achieve through all of this ..but that does not necessarily make it right...where in Islam does it say that take your own life..in fact taking one`s own life is one of the biggest sins...so sure some of these people have a goal while others are frustrated with life and can only resort to such ways...
You said they are following the instructions of the Quran...can you tell me whether exactly in the Quran these instructions are?
Sure some of them have a clear view of what they want to achieve through all of this ..but that does not necessarily make it right...where in Islam does it say that take your own life..in fact taking one`s own life is one of the biggest sins...so sure some of these people have a goal while others are frustrated with life and can only resort to such ways...
You said they are following the instructions of the Quran...can you tell me whether exactly in the Quran these instructions are?
#30 Posted by teshah on February 19, 2007 5:11:10 pm
Re: # 22
Error regretted.
Please read `Salim Chauhan` for `Salm Chauhan` in my post at #22.
#26
``Marne waale pih Saif heirat kio`n
Mout aasan ho gayi ho gi``
One has a right to end one`s life, of course, but the killing of innocent people cannot be without a mission, a selfish and cruel mission indeed.
Error regretted.
Please read `Salim Chauhan` for `Salm Chauhan` in my post at #22.
#26
``Marne waale pih Saif heirat kio`n
Mout aasan ho gayi ho gi``
One has a right to end one`s life, of course, but the killing of innocent people cannot be without a mission, a selfish and cruel mission indeed.
#29 Posted by mohar11 on February 19, 2007 8:11:32 am
Re: # 26
[...try and understand how frustrated some of these people are...]
The suicide bombers are NOT some one-off ``frustrated`` people as you suggest.... they are dedicated, serious people, they have a ``vision`` and they have missions... many of them are educated and experts in what they do...
They are doing this for allah and his prophet Mo, pubh... they are following the instructions in the koran and they know exactly what they are doing... and of course, there is the added incentive of 72 houris and 65 gilmans... :)
[...try and understand how frustrated some of these people are...]
The suicide bombers are NOT some one-off ``frustrated`` people as you suggest.... they are dedicated, serious people, they have a ``vision`` and they have missions... many of them are educated and experts in what they do...
They are doing this for allah and his prophet Mo, pubh... they are following the instructions in the koran and they know exactly what they are doing... and of course, there is the added incentive of 72 houris and 65 gilmans... :)
#28 Posted by nasah on February 19, 2007 7:42:14 am
Pataudi the apple of my eyes -- Pataudi is a modern Muslim in its purest form despite being an ex `nawab` -- that every truly Indian Muslim should be proud of -- and emulate in India.
the mangy hirsute Chihuahuas of Neanderthal Islam can bark their yelping throat till they choke off and hopefully die -- at the majestic elephant -- the walking role model for the modern Muslims in India.
may be -- its time for the Indian Humane Society for the stray dogs to catch these crummy canines and put them to sleep without pain.
This is MY fatwa...
the mangy hirsute Chihuahuas of Neanderthal Islam can bark their yelping throat till they choke off and hopefully die -- at the majestic elephant -- the walking role model for the modern Muslims in India.
may be -- its time for the Indian Humane Society for the stray dogs to catch these crummy canines and put them to sleep without pain.
This is MY fatwa...
#27 Posted by harish_hyd on February 18, 2007 10:41:45 pm
#18 by Salim_Chauhan
Shah-en-Shah Jalaluddin Mohammed Akbar ``gave`` a Muslim bride to the famous musician and vocalist Tan Sen.
If I`m not mistaken, Tan Sen embraced Islam..whether it was before Akbar gave him a Muslim bride or after, I don`t know and am too lazy to google it out on a Monday morning :-)
Shah-en-Shah Jalaluddin Mohammed Akbar ``gave`` a Muslim bride to the famous musician and vocalist Tan Sen.
If I`m not mistaken, Tan Sen embraced Islam..whether it was before Akbar gave him a Muslim bride or after, I don`t know and am too lazy to google it out on a Monday morning :-)
#26 Posted by mystical_facet on February 18, 2007 9:32:13 pm
Hmm...have you ever tried to understand why these people are wearing suicide belts and wading into crowded buses and trains....who wants to do such a thing? have you ever thought how frustrated these people are ? how hopeless they feel about their life and their circumstances? Sure I do agree that some of them are brain-washed but not all of them...before you go around being so judgemental about people maybe you should take the time out and try and understand their rational..it might not be right to us but it sure as hell is to them....try and understand how frustrated some of these people are, that they have given up hope and resort to such methods...
#25 Posted by nb on February 18, 2007 6:06:05 pm
Re: # 21
What power did women have in India 400 years ago, that you can even ask the question?Of course she had no choice in it, she married him because she was told she had to. I agree she could have done much worse than Akbar!
What power did women have in India 400 years ago, that you can even ask the question?Of course she had no choice in it, she married him because she was told she had to. I agree she could have done much worse than Akbar!
#24 Posted by harimau on February 18, 2007 4:50:10 pm
Ref mystical_facet #23
[....whether u wear a turban, have a beard, wear a cross or recite surya namaskar....how does it matter to another individual.....aren`t we all trying to do the same thing here...]
Nope, we aren`t ALL trying to do the same thing here.
Some people here are wearing suicide belts and wading into crowded buses and trains. They can be easily identified if you force them to drop their pants.
[....whether u wear a turban, have a beard, wear a cross or recite surya namaskar....how does it matter to another individual.....aren`t we all trying to do the same thing here...]
Nope, we aren`t ALL trying to do the same thing here.
Some people here are wearing suicide belts and wading into crowded buses and trains. They can be easily identified if you force them to drop their pants.
#23 Posted by mystical_facet on February 18, 2007 11:25:39 am
The world today has became a very sad place...where we judge people based on their belief system...India and Pakistan were created for religious freedom...but whatever happened to that? Neither India nor Pakistan can truly claim that there is no religious oppression in their countries...why has the world become such a sad place to be in....whether u wear a turban, have a beard, wear a cross or recite surya namaskar....how does it matter to another individual.....aren`t we all trying to do the same thing here...trying to be good human beings and believing in that power we call God...so why does the path we choose matter so much ?
#22 Posted by teshah on February 17, 2007 6:37:23 pm
Re: # 4
Salm Chauhan
``No one, except the Islamic Republic of Pakiland, has the legitimate authority to determine who is and who is not a Muslim.``
Very well-said! In fact the Pakiland has given birth to a new variety of Muslims, the `Halfi-Muslms`. The Halfi Muslim is the one who submits a `Halaf Nama` declaring certain fellow-citizens of his as non-Muslims and abusing the founder of a sect who belonged to India, even if they have never heard about him before. I wonder who is authorized to accept or reject such HALF-nama, since all Pakies can claim to be Halfi Muslims only.
Salm Chauhan
``No one, except the Islamic Republic of Pakiland, has the legitimate authority to determine who is and who is not a Muslim.``
Very well-said! In fact the Pakiland has given birth to a new variety of Muslims, the `Halfi-Muslms`. The Halfi Muslim is the one who submits a `Halaf Nama` declaring certain fellow-citizens of his as non-Muslims and abusing the founder of a sect who belonged to India, even if they have never heard about him before. I wonder who is authorized to accept or reject such HALF-nama, since all Pakies can claim to be Halfi Muslims only.
#21 Posted by TOLKININ on February 17, 2007 6:49:24 am
#20
How do you know which one is coerced... the indian muslim male.. hindu jodha bai or which one is by choice ..muslim males or hindu girl... when the playing field in your mind is not the same...in a power hegonomy the greater has more advantages over the minority....or less powerfull
How do you know which one is coerced... the indian muslim male.. hindu jodha bai or which one is by choice ..muslim males or hindu girl... when the playing field in your mind is not the same...in a power hegonomy the greater has more advantages over the minority....or less powerfull
#20 Posted by nb on February 17, 2007 1:13:39 am
Re: # 19
I think it is a matter of women choosing versus being given away. Can you not see that>
I think it is a matter of women choosing versus being given away. Can you not see that>
#19 Posted by TOLKININ on February 16, 2007 2:24:22 pm
#17 By that extension sharmila tagore ,Ratna( mrs NasiruddinShah)and many females indian married to muslims are prostitutes.?.i dont think so .... you will lose half the vote in india
#18 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on February 16, 2007 2:11:07 pm
#17, {``Sooar Ka Bacha Aurangzeb had Rajput prostitutes as female ancestors. There is nothing to be proud of in that case. ...
Not one Mughal gave his daughter / sister to a Hindu. They simply picked up the women of servile Hindus, impregnated them and made them Muslim.
...The biggest insult is yours, when you want us to accept that interloper as a legitimate ruler, simply because a few Rajput women prostituted themselves to Mughal conquerers. ``}
Stuka,
Please restrain yourself. :) It is unfortunate that you have the audacity to judge historical figures and their occupations based on your right-wing Hindutva RSS/BJP/VHP/JS/BD/SS beliefs. Just like the bigots who tear down monuments, rename cities and streets, and rewrite history, you are making a spectacle of yourself and your ``born again`` religious intolerance.
As for your claim about Mughals not ``giving`` daughter/sister to a Hindu, you are somewhat mistaken. Shah-en-Shah Jalaluddin Mohammed Akbar ``gave`` a Muslim bride to the famous musician and vocalist Tan Sen.
I am surprised to note that you consider any woman who marries a person of another faith a prostitute? Let`s see ....Sonia Gandhi, Nargis, Madhubhala, Mrs. Hritik Roshan, Mrs. Shah Rukh Khan, and numerous others - including two of my own female Rajput cousins.
May BagOne cure you of your bigotry and intolerance.
Not one Mughal gave his daughter / sister to a Hindu. They simply picked up the women of servile Hindus, impregnated them and made them Muslim.
...The biggest insult is yours, when you want us to accept that interloper as a legitimate ruler, simply because a few Rajput women prostituted themselves to Mughal conquerers. ``}
Stuka,
Please restrain yourself. :) It is unfortunate that you have the audacity to judge historical figures and their occupations based on your right-wing Hindutva RSS/BJP/VHP/JS/BD/SS beliefs. Just like the bigots who tear down monuments, rename cities and streets, and rewrite history, you are making a spectacle of yourself and your ``born again`` religious intolerance.
As for your claim about Mughals not ``giving`` daughter/sister to a Hindu, you are somewhat mistaken. Shah-en-Shah Jalaluddin Mohammed Akbar ``gave`` a Muslim bride to the famous musician and vocalist Tan Sen.
I am surprised to note that you consider any woman who marries a person of another faith a prostitute? Let`s see ....Sonia Gandhi, Nargis, Madhubhala, Mrs. Hritik Roshan, Mrs. Shah Rukh Khan, and numerous others - including two of my own female Rajput cousins.
May BagOne cure you of your bigotry and intolerance.
#17 Posted by stuka on February 16, 2007 1:51:19 pm
``Firstly, Maharaja Aurangjeb was more Rajput in blood than Mongol. Both his grandmother and great grandmother were Hindu Rajput. :)
``
Sooar Ka Bacha Aurangzeb had Rajput prostitutes as female ancestors. There is nothing to be proud of in that case.
Not one Mughal gave his daughter / sister to a Hindu. They simply picked up the women of servile Hindus, impregnated them and made them Muslim.
I disagree with Sanatani that Aurangzeb was a Muslim and that was his taint. I think Aurangzeb was a bigot. That was his major taint. I think Aurangzeb considered himself a Muslim first, an Indian second. That was his other taint.
The biggest insult is yours, when you want us to accept that interloper as a legitimate ruler, simply because a few Rajput women prostituted themselves to Mughal conquerers.
``
Sooar Ka Bacha Aurangzeb had Rajput prostitutes as female ancestors. There is nothing to be proud of in that case.
Not one Mughal gave his daughter / sister to a Hindu. They simply picked up the women of servile Hindus, impregnated them and made them Muslim.
I disagree with Sanatani that Aurangzeb was a Muslim and that was his taint. I think Aurangzeb was a bigot. That was his major taint. I think Aurangzeb considered himself a Muslim first, an Indian second. That was his other taint.
The biggest insult is yours, when you want us to accept that interloper as a legitimate ruler, simply because a few Rajput women prostituted themselves to Mughal conquerers.
#16 Posted by wiseguyin on February 16, 2007 12:48:21 pm
Re: # 12
How does my belief in re-incarnation and some of India`s population not believeing in it (xtians, buddhists, jews, parsis) refute the point in #11 ? I understand you have a missing bodypart in your pants, but does that mean you HAVE to remain what you are ?
If you have nothing to say, farting should not be considered a substitute ...
How does my belief in re-incarnation and some of India`s population not believeing in it (xtians, buddhists, jews, parsis) refute the point in #11 ? I understand you have a missing bodypart in your pants, but does that mean you HAVE to remain what you are ?
If you have nothing to say, farting should not be considered a substitute ...
#15 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on February 16, 2007 10:57:38 am
#14 {``Firstly even if ...aurangzeb was a Rajput he had two taints one minor the other major (something like jihad lesser and gr8r) the minor his mongol blood and the Major islam.
Second you are believing the snake oil sellers that circumcision reduces the chances of AIDS so be it. AIDS is prevented never reduced.
Thirdly it is NOT offensive that you do Prayaschit it is the right and true thing to do. Satya karva hota hai galat nahin (Truth is bitter never wrong).
...And BhrataShri if you choose Salim katua to ham Salim Katue ke liye ro lenge. ``}
Shri Bagone Sanatani,
Thirdly, I am surprised that a mahan Sanskriti acharya like yourself would use the purely Arabic word ``ghalat.`` :)
Firstly, Maharaja Aurangjeb was more Rajput in blood than Mongol. Both his grandmother and great grandmother were Hindu Rajput. :)
Secondly, don`t tell me I didn`t warn you about circumspection and AIDS - it`s not too late to get a suntan. :)
Lastly, please tell me the meaning of ``Katue.`` If it is what I think it is, my friend, you may be barking up the wrong tree. :)
Ohm Ohm Ohm - Peace should never be resisted. :)
Second you are believing the snake oil sellers that circumcision reduces the chances of AIDS so be it. AIDS is prevented never reduced.
Thirdly it is NOT offensive that you do Prayaschit it is the right and true thing to do. Satya karva hota hai galat nahin (Truth is bitter never wrong).
...And BhrataShri if you choose Salim katua to ham Salim Katue ke liye ro lenge. ``}
Shri Bagone Sanatani,
Thirdly, I am surprised that a mahan Sanskriti acharya like yourself would use the purely Arabic word ``ghalat.`` :)
Firstly, Maharaja Aurangjeb was more Rajput in blood than Mongol. Both his grandmother and great grandmother were Hindu Rajput. :)
Secondly, don`t tell me I didn`t warn you about circumspection and AIDS - it`s not too late to get a suntan. :)
Lastly, please tell me the meaning of ``Katue.`` If it is what I think it is, my friend, you may be barking up the wrong tree. :)
Ohm Ohm Ohm - Peace should never be resisted. :)
#14 Posted by Sanatani on February 16, 2007 12:44:46 am
Re: # 13
Bhrata Shri Chauhan,
Firstly even if Badshah (not and most certainly not Maharaj) aurangzeb was a Rajput he had two taints one minor the other major (something like jihad lesser and gr8r) the minor his mongol blood and the Major islam.
Second you are believing the snake oil sellers that circumcision reduces the chances of AIDS so be it. AIDS is prevented never reduced.
Thirdly it is NOT offensive that you do Prayaschit it is the right and true thing to do. Satya karva hota hai galat nahin (Truth is bitter never wrong).
And chief by knowing the truth and not accepting it you are much more in the wrong.
We have shown you the way the choice is yours Bhrata Chauhan or Salim katua.
And BhrataShri if you choose Salim katua to ham Salim Katue ke liye ro lenge.
Regards
Sanatani
P.S. The last line is a take on the movie Salim Langde pe mat ro
Bhrata Shri Chauhan,
Firstly even if Badshah (not and most certainly not Maharaj) aurangzeb was a Rajput he had two taints one minor the other major (something like jihad lesser and gr8r) the minor his mongol blood and the Major islam.
Second you are believing the snake oil sellers that circumcision reduces the chances of AIDS so be it. AIDS is prevented never reduced.
Thirdly it is NOT offensive that you do Prayaschit it is the right and true thing to do. Satya karva hota hai galat nahin (Truth is bitter never wrong).
And chief by knowing the truth and not accepting it you are much more in the wrong.
We have shown you the way the choice is yours Bhrata Chauhan or Salim katua.
And BhrataShri if you choose Salim katua to ham Salim Katue ke liye ro lenge.
Regards
Sanatani
P.S. The last line is a take on the movie Salim Langde pe mat ro
#13 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on February 15, 2007 12:55:26 pm
Sanatani #9 {``The problem my dear chap is Islam not Muslims, or should I say it is not Chauhan it is Salim. ..And pls no bullsh!!t about how 12times Gr8 grand pappy was impressed by Aurangzebs pety and converted. Actuaaly what happened was that after yrs of producing valiant braves your Clan produced a scum weakling who thought it better to cut of his foreskin than his head. ...
Possibly you can reverse this let them cut my head but not my son`s foreskin. Purvajon ke pappon ka prayaschit karna har vanshaj ka dharam hai``}
Shri Sanatani Ji,
Bohot bohot dhannewaad aapne hamaari or humaare pariwaar ki chinta ki. :)
When I do have a son, I am seriously thinking about not foresaking his foreskin. However, the latest positive health reports about circumspection and decreased occurence of AIDS do have me concerned about preserving the fold.
As far as Prayashit is concerned, I find that prospect rather offensive, whether it is ours or paraya.
Thank you for your advice, but did you know that Maharaja Aurangjeb was also a Rajput?
Possibly you can reverse this let them cut my head but not my son`s foreskin. Purvajon ke pappon ka prayaschit karna har vanshaj ka dharam hai``}
Shri Sanatani Ji,
Bohot bohot dhannewaad aapne hamaari or humaare pariwaar ki chinta ki. :)
When I do have a son, I am seriously thinking about not foresaking his foreskin. However, the latest positive health reports about circumspection and decreased occurence of AIDS do have me concerned about preserving the fold.
As far as Prayashit is concerned, I find that prospect rather offensive, whether it is ours or paraya.
Thank you for your advice, but did you know that Maharaja Aurangjeb was also a Rajput?
#12 Posted by TOLKININ on February 15, 2007 11:14:48 am
#11 i know u believe in reincarnation but not all of India....we have seen the worst in Arjun that u can dish
in reincarnation of him....
in reincarnation of him....
#11 Posted by wiseguyin on February 15, 2007 9:51:31 am
Re: # 10
> ...India is not Synononymous wih Hindu ..
True.
> although you wish it was ...
we have no problems with it being synonymous with hindus, xtians, buddhists, jains, sikhs.
we only have problems with it having any trace of islam. The rest, we know, will live together
and keep strengthening this great civilization.
I dont need to tell you about Islam.
Have a nice day.
> ...India is not Synononymous wih Hindu ..
True.
> although you wish it was ...
we have no problems with it being synonymous with hindus, xtians, buddhists, jains, sikhs.
we only have problems with it having any trace of islam. The rest, we know, will live together
and keep strengthening this great civilization.
I dont need to tell you about Islam.
Have a nice day.
#10 Posted by TOLKININ on February 15, 2007 8:35:46 am
Shaitan``http://koenraadelst.voiceofdharma.com/articles/misc/PakiComeHome.html ``
Next you will be quoting Sitaram Goel ,Gawalker, Shiv Sena Bal Thackeray....
Its not question of Hindu being Hindu ...India is not Synononymous wih Hindu althoughyou wish it was
Next you will be quoting Sitaram Goel ,Gawalker, Shiv Sena Bal Thackeray....
Its not question of Hindu being Hindu ...India is not Synononymous wih Hindu althoughyou wish it was
#9 Posted by Sanatani on February 15, 2007 12:28:09 am
Re: # 4
``These Muslim clerics are an embarassment to themselves and those they profess to speak for``. The clerics may be an embarassment but Islam to put it mildly is an pestilence.
The problem my dear chap is Islam not Muslims, or should I say it is not Chauhan it is Salim.
A nice link for your reference.
http://koenraadelst.voiceofdharma.com/articles/misc/PakiComeHome.html
Awaiting yur return.
Regards
Sanatni
And pls no bullsh!!t about how 12times Gr8 grand pappy was impressed by Aurangzebs pety and converted. Actuaaly what happened was that after yrs of producing valiant braves your Clan produced a scum weakling who thought it better to cut of his foreskin than his head.
Possibly you can reverse this let them cut my head but not my son`s foreskin. Purvajon ke pappon ka prayaschit karna har vanshaj ka dharam hai
``These Muslim clerics are an embarassment to themselves and those they profess to speak for``. The clerics may be an embarassment but Islam to put it mildly is an pestilence.
The problem my dear chap is Islam not Muslims, or should I say it is not Chauhan it is Salim.
A nice link for your reference.
http://koenraadelst.voiceofdharma.com/articles/misc/PakiComeHome.html
Awaiting yur return.
Regards
Sanatni
And pls no bullsh!!t about how 12times Gr8 grand pappy was impressed by Aurangzebs pety and converted. Actuaaly what happened was that after yrs of producing valiant braves your Clan produced a scum weakling who thought it better to cut of his foreskin than his head.
Possibly you can reverse this let them cut my head but not my son`s foreskin. Purvajon ke pappon ka prayaschit karna har vanshaj ka dharam hai
#8 Posted by Sanatani on February 15, 2007 12:18:16 am
Re: # 6
Ek bangali Isai bantaa hai aur profartic abrahmic creeds ko Dharam se compare karta hai aur mulya tathyo ke bare me janta nahin.
Doosra kaminist banta hai aur dharam ko hi gali deta hai.
Throw Bengal out of the Union. Give all Probasi Bengalis a one way ticket to West Bangla and separate Gorkhaland from them.
Sanatani
Ek bangali Isai bantaa hai aur profartic abrahmic creeds ko Dharam se compare karta hai aur mulya tathyo ke bare me janta nahin.
Doosra kaminist banta hai aur dharam ko hi gali deta hai.
Throw Bengal out of the Union. Give all Probasi Bengalis a one way ticket to West Bangla and separate Gorkhaland from them.
Sanatani
#6 Posted by parthaab on February 14, 2007 8:30:58 pm
RELIGION HAS OUTLIVED ITS UTILITY
NEED WE REPEAT?
#4 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on February 14, 2007 1:15:13 pm
Shantanu Dutta
No one, except the Islamic Republic of Pakiland, has the legitimate authority to determine who is and who is not a Muslim.
Having gotten that piece of wisdom off my chest, may I ask if the last name Dutta is the same as Dutt and does that make you a Hussaini Brahmin?
No malice intended. By the way, I agree with your article. These Muslim clerics are an embarassment to themselves and those they profess to speak for.
No one, except the Islamic Republic of Pakiland, has the legitimate authority to determine who is and who is not a Muslim.
Having gotten that piece of wisdom off my chest, may I ask if the last name Dutta is the same as Dutt and does that make you a Hussaini Brahmin?
No malice intended. By the way, I agree with your article. These Muslim clerics are an embarassment to themselves and those they profess to speak for.
#3 Posted by Cobra on February 14, 2007 12:17:39 pm
I agree. We all are guilty of stereotyping. It`s a human nature to mentally segregate objects or people into different compartment and label them. It`s pattern searching. Outward expressions of your convictions, like wearing religious symbols just makes it more easy to categories a person.
#2 Posted by Faruk on February 14, 2007 11:43:50 am
Re: Article
This has little to do with stereotyping. A bunch of guys wanted to takeover the trust that Pataudi controls. They gave it their best shot. It’s just that Pataudi called the local Quazi over for drinks and they decided that to stop the bid. People try worse things for a lot less money.
Regards,
Faruk
This has little to do with stereotyping. A bunch of guys wanted to takeover the trust that Pataudi controls. They gave it their best shot. It’s just that Pataudi called the local Quazi over for drinks and they decided that to stop the bid. People try worse things for a lot less money.
Regards,
Faruk
#1 Posted by TOLKININ on February 14, 2007 11:42:55 am
Has his wife converted to islam as is the pracrtce...Not...from the action of Sharmila who ... keeps going on as a Hindu Benga life with her children following
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