Pataudi’s Plight : The game of religious stereo typing

Re: # 34

Oops ...posted in wrong place. Sorry. My profuse apologies to everybody.

Ref # 29

Sure some of them have a clear view of what they want to achieve through all of this ..but that does not necessarily make it right...where in Islam does it say that take your own life..in fact taking one`s own life is one of the biggest sins...so sure some of these people have a goal while others are frustrated with life and can only resort to such ways...

You said they are following the instructions of the Quran...can you tell me whether exactly in the Quran these instructions are?

Re: # 31

Quran says ``Those who are `killed` in the way of Allah Should not be called dead``. Why then a Muslim who kills himself in a `jehadi` mission leading to `Shahadat` (martyrdom) be called `khud kush` when he is not dying but going straight to heaven for a life of eternal bliss.

Pataudi the apple of my eyes -- Pataudi is a modern Muslim in its purest form despite being an ex `nawab` -- that every truly Indian Muslim should be proud of -- and emulate in India.

the mangy hirsute Chihuahuas of Neanderthal Islam can bark their yelping throat till they choke off and hopefully die -- at the majestic elephant -- the walking role model for the modern Muslims in India.

may be -- its time for the Indian Humane Society for the stray dogs to catch these crummy canines and put them to sleep without pain.

This is MY fatwa...

#18 by Salim_Chauhan

Shah-en-Shah Jalaluddin Mohammed Akbar ``gave`` a Muslim bride to the famous musician and vocalist Tan Sen.

If I`m not mistaken, Tan Sen embraced Islam..whether it was before Akbar gave him a Muslim bride or after, I don`t know and am too lazy to google it out on a Monday morning :-)

Hmm...have you ever tried to understand why these people are wearing suicide belts and wading into crowded buses and trains....who wants to do such a thing? have you ever thought how frustrated these people are ? how hopeless they feel about their life and their circumstances? Sure I do agree that some of them are brain-washed but not all of them...before you go around being so judgemental about people maybe you should take the time out and try and understand their rational..it might not be right to us but it sure as hell is to them....try and understand how frustrated some of these people are, that they have given up hope and resort to such methods...

Re: # 26
I feel very frustrated in crowded public transport as well, how come no one cares about me?

Re: # 26
[...try and understand how frustrated some of these people are...]

The suicide bombers are NOT some one-off ``frustrated`` people as you suggest.... they are dedicated, serious people, they have a ``vision`` and they have missions... many of them are educated and experts in what they do...

They are doing this for allah and his prophet Mo, pubh... they are following the instructions in the koran and they know exactly what they are doing... and of course, there is the added incentive of 72 houris and 65 gilmans... :)

Ref mystical_facet #23

[....whether u wear a turban, have a beard, wear a cross or recite surya namaskar....how does it matter to another individual.....aren`t we all trying to do the same thing here...]

Nope, we aren`t ALL trying to do the same thing here.

Some people here are wearing suicide belts and wading into crowded buses and trains. They can be easily identified if you force them to drop their pants.

The world today has became a very sad place...where we judge people based on their belief system...India and Pakistan were created for religious freedom...but whatever happened to that? Neither India nor Pakistan can truly claim that there is no religious oppression in their countries...why has the world become such a sad place to be in....whether u wear a turban, have a beard, wear a cross or recite surya namaskar....how does it matter to another individual.....aren`t we all trying to do the same thing here...trying to be good human beings and believing in that power we call God...so why does the path we choose matter so much ?

#20
How do you know which one is coerced... the indian muslim male.. hindu jodha bai or which one is by choice ..muslim males or hindu girl... when the playing field in your mind is not the same...in a power hegonomy the greater has more advantages over the minority....or less powerfull

Re: # 21
What power did women have in India 400 years ago, that you can even ask the question?Of course she had no choice in it, she married him because she was told she had to. I agree she could have done much worse than Akbar!

#17 By that extension sharmila tagore ,Ratna( mrs NasiruddinShah)and many females indian married to muslims are prostitutes.?.i dont think so .... you will lose half the vote in india

Re: # 19
I think it is a matter of women choosing versus being given away. Can you not see that>

#17, {``Sooar Ka Bacha Aurangzeb had Rajput prostitutes as female ancestors. There is nothing to be proud of in that case. ...
Not one Mughal gave his daughter / sister to a Hindu. They simply picked up the women of servile Hindus, impregnated them and made them Muslim.
...The biggest insult is yours, when you want us to accept that interloper as a legitimate ruler, simply because a few Rajput women prostituted themselves to Mughal conquerers. ``}

Stuka,
Please restrain yourself. :) It is unfortunate that you have the audacity to judge historical figures and their occupations based on your right-wing Hindutva RSS/BJP/VHP/JS/BD/SS beliefs. Just like the bigots who tear down monuments, rename cities and streets, and rewrite history, you are making a spectacle of yourself and your ``born again`` religious intolerance.

As for your claim about Mughals not ``giving`` daughter/sister to a Hindu, you are somewhat mistaken. Shah-en-Shah Jalaluddin Mohammed Akbar ``gave`` a Muslim bride to the famous musician and vocalist Tan Sen.

I am surprised to note that you consider any woman who marries a person of another faith a prostitute? Let`s see ....Sonia Gandhi, Nargis, Madhubhala, Mrs. Hritik Roshan, Mrs. Shah Rukh Khan, and numerous others - including two of my own female Rajput cousins.

May BagOne cure you of your bigotry and intolerance.