Nadeem F Paracha February 19, 2007
#32 Posted by Aisha_Sarwari on March 7, 2007 2:36:23 am
``Sometimes, (worse than the mullahs), it is the liberals that are giving intellectuality a bad name.``
Well said, the video`s popularity bothered me immensely. I`m so glad you wrote this.
Aisha Sarwari
Well said, the video`s popularity bothered me immensely. I`m so glad you wrote this.
Aisha Sarwari
#31 Posted by Nasruminallah on March 5, 2007 3:51:57 am
looks like it the Dark Ages for us. we will be lucky if we see some light in our life times.............
#30 Posted by Kulharee on February 21, 2007 11:54:43 am
Paracha Sahib… a very nice write-up on the current state of affairs in Pakistan. Luckily, for the major part, the liberal left is confined only to Karachi (and to imported Karcahiettes in Islamabad). In Punjab there’s no such monster, as we have Molvis to deal with. Karachi is blessed with both kinds. In all honesty, the Paki liberal left comes across as the biggest scum of the earth – worse even than the Mullahs. Then we have people like our own Masadi Sahib, who is buy-one-get-one-free kind.
#29 Posted by hamidm2 on February 21, 2007 11:07:18 am
another statement by the believers
MIRANSHAH: An Afghan refugee was beheaded on Tuesday for being a US spy in North Waziristan. The decapitated body of Nek Amal, a 35-year old man from Zozak village in the Afghan province of Khost, was found in a roadside nullah in Saidgey village, near the Pak-Afghan border in North Waziristan. A note found near the body read, “Whoever spies for America will meet the same fate.” The militants, suspected to be pro-Taliban elements, also cut off their hands and feet. staff report
........ so how are the secular liberals going to respond to this ? ....... a marathon in miranshah ?
#28 Posted by Love2love on February 21, 2007 10:55:48 am
Disgraceful. Can you imagine the hue had it been the lady who`d gone up to the guy and shot him for wearing a scary beard? And I shall also ask what Paracha asks at the end of his piece: How less “unIslamic” is this than the basant and women’s marathons, I wonder?
#27 Posted by hamidm2 on February 21, 2007 10:49:04 am
this man - a friend of the prophet - really made a statement !
GUJRANWALA, Feb 20: Punjab Minister for Social Welfare Zille Huma Usman was shot dead by a man described by police as a religious fanatic when she was going to address an open court here on Tuesday.
Police arrested the accused, Maulvi Mohammad Sarwer Mughal, and seized a pistol he was carrying. The accused had been charged with killing four model girls and injuring a dozen others some four years ago, and he was acquitted by a local court for lack of evidence.
Witnesses said the 36-year-old minister, mother of two minor boys, was being showered with rose petals by workers of her party at the Muslim League House on the Asgher Ali Road when the accused fired on her.
Quoting the accused, who ran a hardware shop, DIG (operations) Khadim Hussain Bhatti said he was waging a jihad against anti-Muslim forces. “Women can’t become rulers in Islam,” he is reported to have been said.
AFP adds: Officials said the accused killed the minister because “she was not wearing Muslim clothing”.
“He killed her because she was not observing the Islamic code of dress,” local police officer Nazir Ahmad said.
#26 Posted by AhmadBilal on February 20, 2007 7:55:53 pm
The lack of focus on real issues runs down from the top and Musharraf is no exception. A judge and a number of lawyers get killed in a bomb blast in Baluchistan as part of a chain of terrorist attacks inside Pakistan. Next day, the doctrine-of-necessity president tells the press that the situation is improving, calls the recent incidents ``mamooli patakhay`` and focuses rest of his speech urging the nation to elect his supporters in the next elections. How is it different from the religious masses protesting some petty cartoons while ignoring all that is truly wrong around them?
#25 Posted by Tehsinabbasi on February 20, 2007 11:26:59 am
#24 by Urstruly
Arey yar aysay kaisay ho sukta hai. The dialogue with Uthman comes a little later, and this is how that went.
Muawiyah wrote to Uthman, “Abu Dharr has become a problem for me, and his case has involved such and such matters”. Uthman wrote him, “Verily dissension has protruded its snout and eyes and is poised to jump. Do not scrape the scab, but rather dispatch Abu Dharr to me. Send a guide along with him, give him adequate provisions, and treat him gently. Restrain the people and yourself as far as you can, for you will keep control (of affairs) so long as you keep control of yourself.”
So Abu Dharr was sent to Medina and when he came, Uthman said, “Abu Dharr, why are the Syrians complaining about the wounds inflicted by you?” Abu Dharr informed him how it was improper to say “God’s property,” nor was it proper for the rich to grasp after wealth. Uthman responded “Abu Dharr, I must carry out my own obligations and take what is owed by the subjects. I cannot compel them to be ascetics; rather, I am required to summon them to heed God’s commandments and to follow the path of moderation.” Then Abu Dharr said, “Then permit me to leave, for Medina is no home for me.”
Arey yar aysay kaisay ho sukta hai. The dialogue with Uthman comes a little later, and this is how that went.
Muawiyah wrote to Uthman, “Abu Dharr has become a problem for me, and his case has involved such and such matters”. Uthman wrote him, “Verily dissension has protruded its snout and eyes and is poised to jump. Do not scrape the scab, but rather dispatch Abu Dharr to me. Send a guide along with him, give him adequate provisions, and treat him gently. Restrain the people and yourself as far as you can, for you will keep control (of affairs) so long as you keep control of yourself.”
So Abu Dharr was sent to Medina and when he came, Uthman said, “Abu Dharr, why are the Syrians complaining about the wounds inflicted by you?” Abu Dharr informed him how it was improper to say “God’s property,” nor was it proper for the rich to grasp after wealth. Uthman responded “Abu Dharr, I must carry out my own obligations and take what is owed by the subjects. I cannot compel them to be ascetics; rather, I am required to summon them to heed God’s commandments and to follow the path of moderation.” Then Abu Dharr said, “Then permit me to leave, for Medina is no home for me.”
#24 Posted by Urstruly on February 20, 2007 9:24:47 am
Re: # 22
If the memory serves me right, the dialogue that you have cited occured between Abu Dhar Ghaffari(RA) and Uthman (RA) and not between former and Amir Muawiya (RA). Abu Dharr was an ascetic by nature and looked at the new found wealth of Muslims with disdain. Abu Dhar is also credit as the first Sufi in Islam for he promoted and astere lifestyle.
If the memory serves me right, the dialogue that you have cited occured between Abu Dhar Ghaffari(RA) and Uthman (RA) and not between former and Amir Muawiya (RA). Abu Dharr was an ascetic by nature and looked at the new found wealth of Muslims with disdain. Abu Dhar is also credit as the first Sufi in Islam for he promoted and astere lifestyle.
#23 Posted by HasanMahmood on February 20, 2007 9:03:05 am
very nice paracha sahab. By the way people who were clappping should also watch the response Musharaf had for that idiot. Also, the so-called intelligent people of Pakistan seem to forget that in the so-called democracy people like that young student would not even have been able to question the leader of Pakistan. Like I said before it is a fad to shout democracy without learning the real meaning of it nowadays and Pakistani people on Chowk are the perfect example. They are always the first to point out the bad things but forget to mention the economic gains, the development work and especially their inability to receive Rishwat nowadays. I wonder how many of the people on Chowk belong to the upper class elite whose parents made all the money not based on their inteeligence but the corrupt culture of this God-Forsaken country, and how many people belong to the dari-wala parties.
#22 Posted by Tehsinabbasi on February 20, 2007 9:02:12 am
The importance of being bearded:
The beard is not a personal choice of form like an ear ring, it is a political statement, a legitimacy, a sanction from God and all that is righteous. The gentleman if he had asked the same questions without invoking God and bringing in the inviolable word of the Quran to which nobody (at least in that audience) could question, that makes it coercive. This has been the hallmark of how every side has exploited Islam for their own ends. I have an interesting example:
It was in the time of Hadrat Uthman, when Amir Muawiyah as the governor of Syria proclaimed that “the public moneys are God’s property”. Abu Dharr (an ascetic) came to Muawiyah and said, “what leads you to use the term ‘God’s property’ for the public moneys of the Muslims?”
“God be merciful to you, Abu Dharr,” responded Muawiyah, “are we not God’s slaves, the public moneys His property, the created world His creation and public authority His authority”.
Abu Dharr said, “Do not use this expression.” He continued, “indeed, I do not say that (the public moneys) do not belong to God, but I shall call them ‘the property of the Muslims.’”
Of course the result can be predicted Abu Dharr was expelled from Syria back to Medina for causing fitna and was questioned by Uthman upon which he self exiled himself to living outside of Medina.
The beard is not a personal choice of form like an ear ring, it is a political statement, a legitimacy, a sanction from God and all that is righteous. The gentleman if he had asked the same questions without invoking God and bringing in the inviolable word of the Quran to which nobody (at least in that audience) could question, that makes it coercive. This has been the hallmark of how every side has exploited Islam for their own ends. I have an interesting example:
It was in the time of Hadrat Uthman, when Amir Muawiyah as the governor of Syria proclaimed that “the public moneys are God’s property”. Abu Dharr (an ascetic) came to Muawiyah and said, “what leads you to use the term ‘God’s property’ for the public moneys of the Muslims?”
“God be merciful to you, Abu Dharr,” responded Muawiyah, “are we not God’s slaves, the public moneys His property, the created world His creation and public authority His authority”.
Abu Dharr said, “Do not use this expression.” He continued, “indeed, I do not say that (the public moneys) do not belong to God, but I shall call them ‘the property of the Muslims.’”
Of course the result can be predicted Abu Dharr was expelled from Syria back to Medina for causing fitna and was questioned by Uthman upon which he self exiled himself to living outside of Medina.
#21 Posted by hamidm2 on February 20, 2007 6:06:44 am
Re: # 18
abu-sufyan,
...... i am puzzled by your statement ...... would you care to repost my post in which i `cried` and also your post that made me cry ? .......
abu-sufyan,
...... i am puzzled by your statement ...... would you care to repost my post in which i `cried` and also your post that made me cry ? .......
#20 Posted by Jamesmaxwell on February 20, 2007 2:23:32 am
The fundos and the khakis are different sides of the same coin. They have lived in a symbiotic relationship since the the 1970s and depend on each other for their survival. Don`t be fooled by a you tube video clip.
#19 Posted by nasah on February 19, 2007 7:18:54 pm
``... for many watching a young (bearded) man standing up to the most powerful person in the country, yes, but about what was he standing up for?`` (Nadeem Paracha)
the bearded young man was standing -- for the SAME base crummy principles that ``the most powerful man`` was sitting in his chair -- for the base crummy no-principles.
and please don`t blame the `Liberals` for either -- the L people are not responsible for your young bearded man standing up to -- nor for your old beardless man sitting down to --
blamiong the L people is by now an old cliche not worthy of a creative writer like you. What makes you think that it is not the fault of M people......may be it is the fault of the M people.....
It would appear that in Pakistan people in general are not what they claim to be - including the Marxists.
the bearded young man was standing -- for the SAME base crummy principles that ``the most powerful man`` was sitting in his chair -- for the base crummy no-principles.
and please don`t blame the `Liberals` for either -- the L people are not responsible for your young bearded man standing up to -- nor for your old beardless man sitting down to --
blamiong the L people is by now an old cliche not worthy of a creative writer like you. What makes you think that it is not the fault of M people......may be it is the fault of the M people.....
It would appear that in Pakistan people in general are not what they claim to be - including the Marxists.
#18 Posted by abu_safwaan on February 19, 2007 3:23:38 pm
Re: # 17
Its not ur fault od man, thats a by-product of dear ol millwaukee as well, come back when u r sober n we`ll rap..which basically means u shouldnt come back.
Its not ur fault od man, thats a by-product of dear ol millwaukee as well, come back when u r sober n we`ll rap..which basically means u shouldnt come back.
#17 Posted by hamidm2 on February 19, 2007 3:19:25 pm
Re: # 16
abu,
... no, i really don`t remember .... would you care to remind me ?
abu,
... no, i really don`t remember .... would you care to remind me ?
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