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Fight Hudood, Protect Women

Beena Sarwar March 6, 2007

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#286 Posted by zeemax on March 11, 2007 1:24:52 am
To ZahraJ as well as the author ...

Instead of crying crocodile tears over the plight of rural women, have you raised a voice upon the illegal dismissal of the man who gave THIS rural woman justice .....

...by sending back to jail THESE men ...

..... on a suo-moto action who were freed by the high-court?

I`m sorry. But both of you are just naz nakhreeli begum sahebs whose feigned concern with rural women begins and ends with maasis who sweep your floors crouching in a frog like manner and you shout at them everyday for leaving out that corner under that settee, and then throw some hand-me-down joras their way if they threaten to leave.
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#285 Posted by zeemax on March 11, 2007 1:01:08 am
ZahraJ,

Instead of his mother spitting on him, his father should have pissed on him. That might have worked!

:~)
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#284 Posted by zeemax on March 11, 2007 12:57:41 am
#271 by bjkumar

Eff you .. liar and plagiariser ..
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#283 Posted by zeemax on March 11, 2007 12:49:30 am
#267 by teshah,

Liar !

... Where is it written that a woman can be married to Quran? Stop defaming Islam with lies. Marrying off to Quran is a custom of rural Sindh to protect property transfer out of the family and perhaps would even have the sanction of the ostensibly Quran-loving Sufis who live off handouts of the landed ... but it is nowhere near Islam.
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#282 Posted by ZahraJ on March 10, 2007 10:49:23 pm
bjkumar - I also see depth in Gandhi Jee`s eyes. In fact, he has nicely shaped almond eyes. Is that common among Indian men?
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#281 Posted by bjkumar on March 10, 2007 9:33:44 pm

#280 ZahraJ

Thanks for seeing kindness. I wish and pray the concept evolves in Pakistan, then many of its problems would go away.

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#280 Posted by ZahraJ on March 10, 2007 9:16:25 pm
Re: # 275

bjkumar - That`s nice portrait of Gandhi Jee. His eyes seem to be full of compassion.

Thanks for sharing.

Note: Probably, Yasser can take a close look at this one :p
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#279 Posted by ZahraJ on March 10, 2007 9:13:59 pm
Re: # 278

Tahmed - Mills and Boons :) A topic that hovers on Hamidm`s mind every now and then. Either he is into or Khawateen Digest or M&B or Harold Robbins. Daniele Steel and Sydney Sheldon may be too light for him :)
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#278 Posted by tahmed32 on March 10, 2007 9:08:49 pm
zahraj: what is M&B??
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#277 Posted by ZahraJ on March 10, 2007 8:59:47 pm
Re: # 274

Dear Qibla Hamidm - You mistook my post. You can also convey your stance by being direct. There is no need to always beat around the bush to make a point. It`s real annoying. See, Mrs Hamidm may withstand that style but the rest of the womenkind do not have to bear that :)

And I am sorry to disappoint that I never ever cried on any nonsense and bull$hit (pardon my farsi) in M&B. By the way, my mother did not let me go near one till I was in my late teens :) I have never developed a taste for that nonsense.

In the end, I do not know if it matters to all women to be good muslimas or christians or hindus or jews.....What matters is to be able to lead a life of one`s choice where options, equal rights, and opportunities are in abundance.

I appreciate your concerns for the womenkind and think that I understand where you are coming from metaphorically. Still, by women crying out loud on the issue of hudood is not going to resolve that issue. That was my initial stance. You cannot change the way Islamic countries function. A man may be the most debauch and characterless creature, but that society will not penalize him for a wrongdoing but will put a poor woman in jail for being raped. That to me requires a huge change in the thinking process of that society. And honestly speaking, proper a$$ whipping of the men in power who continue to let these things happen. There is no application of Islamic law in that case. That in itself is hypocrisy among the Muslims. As a result, the social fabric keeps on getting weak and weaker.

The fact that the law and order system in Pakistan allowed a lunatic to be out, inspite of being a killer of many women (regardless of their outlook towards life) tells you a lot. Well, probably the next Chief Justice of Pakistan needs to be a real woman. Hopefuly, President Musharraf will find another woman leader to come forward and then feed her to the ba$tards.

Just make sure you cover your women well when you visit Pakistan the next time. Your crazy fellow men are no longer human beings. The fanatic ba$tards have taken very ugly shape.
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#276 Posted by tahmed32 on March 10, 2007 8:42:57 pm
hamidm #274 about the friday night wife beating ritual by drunk husbands? does that come with the turf too?

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#275 Posted by bjkumar on March 10, 2007 8:28:25 pm

#274 Hamidm2

Sir, as a token of my appreciation of the delight that you have forever expressed in seeing the fully-clothed pictures of a certain individual who somehow always seems to evoke the very strongest of sentiments in you - I provide you another one for your enjoyment!

For the record, I do believe that that individual would have disapproved of the Hadood laws!




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#274 Posted by hamidm2 on March 10, 2007 8:19:56 pm
Re: # 270

zahraj,

........... i never claimed to be an enlightened man (even though some devotees say they have seen a halo over my head) and i am perfectly happy being just the way i am - really too old to change ......... in any case, being in the us has nothing to do with enlightenment - just look at jerry falwell, paris hilton and the guys on jackass who were born and raised here .......... and what is wrong with hoor and khawateen digest ?...... they are just as good as mills and boon and that danielle steele stuff that you probably cry over - my mother, god bless her soul, used to read them all the time (and yes, she too cried) ........... and there is nothing wrong with crying - mrs hamidm cried when et wanted to go home, and i cry ever time i see those nasty pictures posted by bjkumar ...........

......... but i do believe that muslim women bear a large part of the blame for their own miserable condition ............ as long as they continue to defend the horrible practices of their faith they deserve what they get - they are like jews on the way to the oven defending nazism .......... if you want to be a good muslima then take your beating like a woman and stop whining ..........
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#273 Posted by hamidm2 on March 10, 2007 8:19:55 pm
Re: # 270

zahraj,

........... i never claimed to be an enlightened man (even though some devotees say they have seen a halo over my head) and i am perfectly happy being just the way i am - really too old to change ......... in any case, being in the us has nothing to do with enlightenment - just look at jerry falwell, paris hilton and the guys on jackass who were born and raised here .......... and what is wrong with hoor and khawateen digest ?...... they are just as good as mills and boon and that danielle steele stuff that you probably cry over - my mother, god bless her soul, used to read them all the time (and yes, she too cried) ........... and there is nothing wrong with crying - mrs hamidm cried when et wanted to go home, and i cry ever time i see those nasty pictures posted by bjkumar ...........

......... but i do believe that muslim women bear a large part of the blame for their own miserable condition ............ as long as they continue to defend the horrible practices of their faith they deserve what they get - they are like jews on the way to the oven defending nazism .......... if you want to be a good muslima then take your beating like a woman and stop whining ..........
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#272 Posted by bjkumar on March 10, 2007 8:07:13 pm

#250 by nasah

Nasah sahib, I used to share the gut-level disgust at the Pakistani khakis – especially the Mushy. But unfortunately, nobody there is any better. They have no honest civilian leaders – they all can only compete in who can bad-mouth India more. Their “liberals” are the worst of the lot – if the chowk site is any example, they are the most gutless individuals in the world – if I were a Pakistani khaki, I would never lose even one second of sleep about any challenge from this segment.

The khakis at least earn their living through using their guns and are upfront about it. And from the Indian perspective, as long as they keep those guns pointed at their own civilians – and their own civilians are busy roughing up their own women – it is likely that they will have less time to “export” those activities. Unfortunate but bitter truth!

Baaki to Bhagwaan maalik hai!

In the end, people accomplish (or fail to do so) only what they REALLY want to accomplish. If the Pakistanis – after sixty years can only produce demagogues, killers, and not a single person who sees the truth for what it is – like the rest of the world does – perhaps it is not meant to happen.

Therefore, kindly do not pay much attention to the Mushy – only the crocodiles can survive in that river full of Piranhas!

We can feel bad for the “persecuted” ladies of Pakistan – but they are approximately fifty percent of the population and barring a few individuals here and there, do not seem to give a hoot – are perhaps quite happy being beaten up, raped, genitally mutilated, and exploited.

You sir, are a good man – but I do not wish to extend that generalization to a whole lot of individuals on the other side.


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#271 Posted by bjkumar on March 10, 2007 7:35:48 pm

#266 Zee

Sorry yaar, I should not take out on you what is my anger at what are my very own weaknesses.

Go in peace! In the end, everybody goes the same way.

I hereby add you to my ignore list.

But no hard feelings, my dear!


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