Men in Khaki

Re:ahmedmadani#108

Madaniji, actually I believe Musharraf is good for Pakistan and he is definitely good for India as well. He has tried to change the culture there to make it more liberal and open for e.g. opening the Katasraj temple for hindus. Also his retraction of Pakistan`s position on UN resolutions in Kashmir has certainly helped India in Kashmir.

I just hope that he doesnt make too big a mess of the current situation and loses power due to a military coup. He is doing all this for his ``reelection``. I wonder why he doesnt declare himself President/Army Chief for life and be done with it instead of having so-called elections.

Re: # 116

That space is for the picture of Allah left blank out of respect for your religious sentiments.

subhashjoshi,

Please learn to delete the extra space at the end of your posts out of respect for chowk space which is is wasted in this manner, as most chowkies ensure to do except for hindoos who don`t care.

Re: # 90 Hamidm

It has been already proved scientifically that Hanuman is much stronger than Allah.

Long time back a contest was held between the two - to see who can hit the other harder. Allah struck Hanuman so hard, he went flying and came back limping after 7 days (meanwhile Allah got time to create the world which he did rather badly). Then it was Hanuman`s turn, and to this day Muslims start their prayers with Ajaan ``Allah, where are you, come back.......``.

Re: # 107 Salim

That`s good news, now the problem of stranded Pakistanis` repatriation is resolved.

This is what they call serendipity!

#101 by nasah,

It is clear that musharraf himself nor his cabinet nor the PM knew of that attack. For the first time I do not believe they`re lying. It is obvious from their faces. It is indeed a move by other very powerful men after having seen the shift in public opinion against musharraf. He`ll be out on his butt soon.

It is the most plausible scenario that the Geo attack was orchestrated by the Chaudhry`s of Gujrat (remember it was the Punjab Police, not federal, which did it). Shujaat conveneintly left for USA and hasn`t uttered a word, neither has Parvez Elahi. They have seen the paradigm shift and have ditched musharraf. You might also recall that at the time of the alleged NS attack on Supreme court, Shujaat was the Federal Interior Minister and Pervaiz Elahi the Speaker of Punjab Assembly, and busloads from Gujrat had arrived to witness the SC proceedings against NS and made all the ruckus and got enough public opinion plus military support to expel NS. Remember? Same thing is happening now.

I have no doubt the Chaudhry`s are behind the whole thing, but for good reason this time. And you can count on Pervez Elahi as your next PM. Having observed how the Chaudhries operate since a long time (and some of them personally), I know they`ve made a major move on the chessboard. They`re great chessplayers.

Regards.

#110 ahmedmadani {``Any way president has similar job no compliments but just compalaints and whining by third grade politicians, liberals and seculars.
PM complained to him regarding CJs intermingling in many things and improportionate wealth. What he can do , your prime minister MMS will have empathy as he has to dismiss corroupt ministers all time.``}

Madani Sahib,
Your logic is irrefutable and your real-life anecdotes to reinforce the seriousness of the President`s tasks and the gravity of the situation are truly inspiring. Also, I think that you kind remark about My Man Man Mohan was right on. That poor gentleman is so busy firing his cabinet for misconduct that he enjoys going to Islamabad to meet Mushy and cry on his shoulder. Perhaps Mushy should demand quid pro quo and go make the Jamuna a bit wetter. :)

Re: # 108
Things are going to be alright. Also good news is Altafbhai has said similar and he is real king maker. PM should be fired in time as he is giving bad advice.
I do not think even president can neglect suggestion from London as disregard can lead to tension and bad economical situation if Karachi flares up for even seven days. His advice for both sides is like shower on fire on both sides.
What you thin k my suggestion to ban video clips as its mostly hate related agenda by some disgrunted group, one can take complaints but its mostly whining.
Kindly read #110 and comment.
Hope you read very good writing by YLH (Manto) is was very best presentation for world readers. Will you agree ?

Re: # 98
Mr.Ranjit please read #105.
As a head of state there are duties. As said in old days king have no relative but all subjects are his children and all are equal. Some duties are bitter but as said kings have no kins. Now he has all powers but rulers can not enjoy it, he is king but has nothing its lonely at top and life devoted to statecraft and General is that level, he has all power but he can not use for himself but he has to take bitter decisions as a king as any father has to whip boys and rebuke daughters for bad deeds, bad company of friends and lafangas hanging around them. Then your daughters do not like you , they think you are stupid and they feel you are retart and living 7th century and they think they have wisdom . Peer pressure and watching silly hindi movies and immitating stupid things from and indian cultural ethos which is short name for degeneration. You fight hard like no TV here but you compromise to have radio. Any way fortunately I am through and i have not to put up with all nonsense of daughters and there whims and caprice. and they go fast and then do not want to write letters regularly ( I told them I do not consider emails as letter, i read and take out and junk it) I told them I want real letter on first of month by POST and written in hand no type thing.and they say they are busy which i do not accept at all. All boys and girls have become selfish and no attention , its stupid like feeding neighbours goat. Any way president has similar job no compliments but just compalaints and whining by third grade politicians, liberals and seculars.
PM complained to him regarding CJs intermingling in many things and improportionate wealth. What he can do , your prime minister MMS will have empathy as he has to dismiss corroupt ministers all time.
You should not take arjun seriously as he has ``agenda`` and enjoys misery and gloats about problems is sad thing.
Also this newspapers should stop put of videos as most want to read and see any thing. Reading makes you think . All videos are partisan and in had test.
Have good day.

#90 Hamidum2 {``....... if bangladesh beat india and ireland beats pakistan, which is more than likely, it will prove once and for all that mo of mecca might be stronger than hanuman but he is still no match for st patrick and aab-i-zumzum is no substitute for green beer ``}

Hamidum Sahib,
It`s intolerably presumptuous of you to think that only Pakistanis represent Islam or The Holy Prophet (PBUH). Perhaps the Soodis can lend the Pakis some chullu bhar ka aab-e-zamzam for the latter to commit the honorable deed of hara-kiri. :) Mo`s honor was well-defended by the short, dark Bangladeshis.

#105 ahmedmadani {``Hope these people troublemakers will understand problems can be settled in courts not by rabble rousing and hooligans``}

Madani Sahib,
Very well stated and quite logical viewpoint. Thanks. Lawyers acting like hooligan and throwing bricks do not solidify the foundation of Pakistan. We need the cement of logic, tolerance, common sense, civilized behavior, and real education to hold the country together.

Biharis Refuse Repatriation to Pakistan

By Abul Qasim Muhammad Shamsul Haque
The Bangladesh Observer
17 March, 2007

Dacca, Bangladesh: Shaikh Muhammad Nur is a leader of the Bihari community - which is a term commonly used to refer to the thousands of Pakistanis stranded in Bangladesh since the surrender of Pakistani forces in 1971.

After watching the World Cup one day cricket match between Pakistan and Ireland, a dejected Mr. Nur announced that his community would refuse any repatriation to Pakistan. ``We knew that the Pakistanis were cowards when they surrendered in humiliation to the victorious Indian Army in 1971. What we did not know is that they were also HijRa losers. It was bad enough that they saved their own skins by surrendering in 1971, but they also abandoned us to the cruel retribution of the Mukhti Bahini. Now they have again demonstrated their inherent cowardice by losing to the Irish cricket team. From now on we will cheer for our Bangladeshi team, which has been victorious with grace and skill. Furthermore, we refuse to go back to our ancient homeland of Bihar, because we want to be associated with victors and not losers.``

Mr. Nur congratulated the Bangladesh national cricket team upon a great victory and prayed for its continued success in the World Cup. He also said ``These Pakistanis always act like the dark-skinned Sudanese ``Arabs`` who somehow justify their persecution and killing of the slightly darker fellow Muslims of Darfur. The Pakistanis discriminated against Bengalis and Biharis who are only slightly darker than themselves. Their continued defeat clearly proves that there is a God.``

There are unconfirmed reports of a significant increase in Bihari applications for asylum status in the Republic of Ireland.

Courtesy, The Bangladesh Observer.

#104 Ahmedmadani

Sir, I understand your good intentions.

Forgive me if I am selective about what constitutes ``good deeds`` and real sacrifice.

When I see these folks getting beaten up as I see in those pictures (as, for example, that hapless lawyer being manhandled in #100) – now that’s sacrifice!

On the other hand, running one’s mouth on a forum – whether here on this website or on BBC – that is not sacrifice – perhaps running one’s mouth comes to some people naturally!

Also perhaps naturally comes the hypocrisy ….

Of refusing to see what these agitators are trying to accomplish – who are fighting without weapons and resisting without hitting back with their own bodies alone – using the only technique under the sky which has even the remotest chance of working in your land of Pakistan…

Forgive me if I do not make too much of those who bask in the role of the cheerleaders of such individuals who are getting beaten up – and, at the same time, unhesitatingly bad-mouth the person who brought that very concept to the subcontinent!

Forgive me if I refuse to call such duplicity a “good deed”, for – to me, the term “hypocrisy” appears more accurate!

Re: # 103
Its time make go home by lawyers and let country return to normal. All this tamasha was added by foreign forces and lawyers were victim. President has right to seek out suspected corroupt judge and judge has right to fair trial. Both are assured by president. Hope president looks at his advisors and some heads should roll. Also he should ask pm to refrain from complaining to president against judges. President is forced to take action if PM complains to him legally. When one is president even if pm made mistake, politicians try to destroy president who is head of state is sad. Also people cheering left and liberals who support the taking law in hand and lawyers throwing bricks to kill police will repent if extremists take on. Hope these people troublemakers will understand problems can be settled in courts not by rabble rousing and hooligans. Then can study manto aka yal how he articulated his point of view for world readers of bbc, clear cold logic and humanity and articulation with decency and no incitement against anybody but advice to follow 1973 constitution.

Re: # 100
BJK at this time yourself and arjun etc should say good words about YLH ( I know both you have problems). Hope you read this commentary on BBC newspaper. Hope you appreciate good deeds.
Good day.

``I had no personal grudge against the CJ``-- it was just that my -- ``muqtazzaay-e tubeeatush eeN ust -- hopefully the CJ understands that my -- ``nesh-e aqrab nu uz paye keeN us``.....