A Nation Reborn

Down with politicians, generals and justice for all. Yes, yes that`s all very noble and indeed a just cause.

As much as I am fed up of General Musharraf he is still the lesser of three evils; the MMA, Nawaz Sharif and Benazir Bhutto. Who then is it that will take the reins of the nation?

The PPP ex-PMs are salivating at the thought of ``democracy``

Pakistan`s hard currency reserves are at an all time high. The Paki Rupee has been stable for seven years. The economy is growing at fantastic rates. There is a construction boom in Karachi. Work is starting on Pakistan`s fourth port at Somniani. (T)

All this is happening on the Mohajir dictator`s watch and his Mohajir PM`s administration. The exiled ``democratically-elected`` PPP ex-PMs are salivating at the prospect of returning and feeding at the trough with both mouths.

{``#59 by subhashjoshi on March 23, 2007 7:24pm PT
Re: # 57 Salim Chauhan

Do you fight for this cause (of stranded Pakistanis` repatriation) only on chowk / other web forums or do you also take part in any jalsaa`s, public speeches, demonstrations etc in Pakistan? Just curious. ``}

Subhash Bhai,
I try to fight for this cause and others all over the place - apparently not very effectively. :)
I am so concerned about these poor people`s plight, that many, especially on Chowk, call me a ``Bihari,`` in their derogatory manner to trivialize and dismiss this important issue. But then I have been called an Ahmedi, a ``Mirzaee,`` a Dalit, a Hazaara, an American Injun, a Bahai, an Ismaili, an Afro-American, and even a Jew. :) Of course, I am not any of these, but if it makes people feel better or superior, I will concur. :)

#167 Mantolives from Aparna`s Pakistan forum {``On the Punjabi-Mohajir issue... I am forced to agree with Salim Chauhan... ``}

Manto Bhai,
Being the most despised person on Chowk, it is not important whether I am right or wrong. What`s important is that the injustices against the ``stranded`` yet loyal and brave Pakistanis in BD be corrected. Also, the pernicious provincialism, hegemony, and discrimination must be recognized and eradicated. Of course, you and I agree on the secular, liberal, peaceful, democratic, and just social and political environment needed for Pakistan.

Thank you, my friend, for recognizing the problem. The hopes and dreams of sincere Pakistanis are with you. Too bad, the overwhelming majority of Punjabi Pakistanis, especially on Chowk (e.g. Tahmed32, Ali_1, Atif2, Sobia, Ally, Khamkhwa, Zeemax, and many others) don`t share your objectivity.

``I`m not a legal man``, ``I`m just a simple soldier``. (Musharraf`s on Geo TV)

In defense of his horrendous Constitutional Illegalities it is good to see that Musharraf finally breaks down and confesses on GEO TV (after ransacking it 3 days earlier) -- that he is indeed an illegal man -- that is -- an illegal president -- and that he is a simple soldier -- undeserving to be the COAS of Pakistan by any criteria. Bravo!

No Islamic country can and ever will have a truly democratic government. Democracy is contrary to the nature of Islam.

Re: # 62 Nasah

So the ``revolution`` led by lawyers has fizzled out?

Re: # 61 {He is Bhagwan aka Allah. Allah will Inshallah stick His neck out for the Rule of Law in Pakistan }

His name is not Bhagwan but Bhagwan Das, which means ``Servant of Bhagwan``, much like the muslim name Abdullah (``Servant of Allah``). It is a very nice Sanskrit name.

Having said the foregoing, Bhagwan Das is as Pakistani as anyone else who lives in Pakistan-- aka Aryadesh in Sanskrit ;)-- so I hope that he will act in the best interest of his home-land and the home-land of his anscetors.

Anarchy in Pakistan will serve noone except those who are motivated by bigtory and those who harbor hatred in their hearts.

Sveta-Huna

``Talking to the media after taking oath as ACJP, Justice Bhagwan Das told that the Supreme Judicial Council would be taking a decision on the issue of holding the hearing of the reference in open or in camera. He said that the judiciary would not disappoint the people and the nation would soon hear the good news.``

THE good news? -- Musharraf WILL be man handled -- when?

so folks -- this looks like the kurwat ooNt baithay gaa -- the consensus is that CJ Iftikhar Chaudry will be reinstated but he will be debarred from ruling on any Musharraf related court cases like, uniform, election by present NA, tenure, double-dipping etc etc.

Now one will have to admit that this is one creative justicizing solution to keep Supreme Court off the back of a compulsive institutional hijacker -- courtesy once again -- the peerless pirzada

Question is -- is it possible to debarr a Chief Justice of the Supreme Court from catching the one and the only miscreant -- in this one man miscreant show?

#60 He is Bhagwan aka Allah. Allah will Inshallah stick His neck out for the Rule of Law in Pakistan. :-)

Re: # 54 tahmed

You think he is going to stick his neck out? He must realize how much is his chance of becoming a proper CJ (not acting one), even with his ``special`` qualifications, he surely must realize his place under the sun.

Re: # 57 Salim Chauhan

Do you fight for this cause (of stranded Pakistanis` repatriation) only on chowk / other web forums or do you also take part in any jalsaa`s, public speeches, demonstrations etc in Pakistan? Just curious.

Tahmed,
Yes, your bigotry and racism against Mohajirs is on record - right here on Chowk. As for lying, you stupid evil old man, you keep on accusing my family of looting departing Hindus. Produce one shred of evidence of that, you mean racist. :@

My family`s comfort and well-being is the result of my Turkish great grandfather’s hard work and generosity. He never, not once, came to Pakistan, you lying fool.

Remember what Islam teaches us about lying. If you don`t repent, you will find yourself sharing the oven next to Urstruly in HELL. :)

Waqt pe gadhey ko baap maanna jaayez hai - Message to Mohajirs

Dear Urdu-speaking Mohajirs,

I have no political ambitions in Pakistan and certainly not in Lahore. You have noticed the constant altercation between various Pakistani Punjaibis and me. My main interest in retaliating forcefully against these bigots, racists, and supremacists is to expose them in your eyes.

In real life, most of you have probably suffered from discrimination at the hands of these selfish people in matters of education, employment, and commerce. What you have probably not contemplated is the level of their hatred, prejudice, and profanity. Well, here on Chowk, in the safety of anonymity, these people have the opportunity to express their true feelings without consequence. You have read cruel and lewd racist, ethnic, and linguistic insults from Ali1 and Atif2. You have witnessed the murderous intentions and hateful expressions of Punjaibi supremacy from Sobia and Khamkhwa. Even Manto, Ally, and Aashee have used thinly-disguised methods of insulting those whose native language is Urdu and whose ancestors came from Hindustan.

But, the worst offender and most hateful representative of Punjaibi behavior is Tahmed32. This hypocrite has openly and vehemently opposed the repatriation of Pakistanis ``stranded`` in Bangladesh. He, among other Pakistani Punjaibis, uses the term ``Bihari`` as a racist and condescending means to lump all Urdu-speakers together and justify discrimination and injustice against us.

The point of my message is that we should open our eyes, be alert, keep our powder dry, and not let these hatemongers reenact their murderous acts against our poor, defenseless people. Don`t forget that it was the mainly Pakistani Punjaibi-dominated army that massacred many Pakistanis in East Pakistan. It was this same Pakistani-Punjaibi dominated army that shamelessly surrendered in droves and the cowards were escorted to safety in India by their fellow Punjabis, mostly brave and compassionate Sikhs, of the Indian army.

The Pakistani Punjaibis drove the majority Bengalis out of Pakistan. They are looting the resources and killing the people of Baluchistan. They have killed in Karachi and continue to kill Pakistanis in NWFP. They have alienated the Kashmiris, especially the Gilgitis and Baltistanis. Even the Saraikis, who live in southern Punjaib, want to throw off their yoke.

Please understand the people you are up against. Let us not be fooled by them to make common cause with them against our fellow Pakistanis who suffer from their oppression. Please do not let them channel our frustration and anger against India, where many of our dear relatives live. India has never done anything to harm us intentionally - the devastating bombing of Karachi in `71 was not directly directed against us.

I agree that not all Pakistani Punjabis are evil. Yes, there are quite a few who see the stupidity and folly in their fellow Punjaibis` insatiable thirst for power and loot. Unfortunately, the most hateful and prejudiced Punjaibis seem to be in the majority and are certainly much more vocal here on Chowk.

Let us be united. Let us help each other. Let us develop a secular, democratic, and fair environment in the areas where we dominate and let`s get along with everyone - until our own freedoms, lives, and properties are threatened by these evil persecutors.

As the Urdu saying goes - ``Waqt pe gadhey ko baap maanna jaayez hai``

Salute to Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudhury He will be remembered in history as a Great Pakistani....

From Dawn interview of the Chief Justice:

Mentioning specifically certain landmark cases, which instantly raised his stature as the adjudicating authority — enjoyed by nobody in the recent past — he talked about hearing petitions against rising oil and pharmaceutical prices involving the interests of large multinationals, preventing public parks being converted into exclusive (mini)golf clubs or commercial complexes, strictly enforcing building regulations and decreeing the demolition of elitist encroachments on public lands, prohibiting the cutting of forests in the construction of an elitist township known as New Murree in the foothills above Islamabad, instituting inquiries into disappearances, providing relief to rape victims, banning forced marriages and the exchange of girls and women to settle disputes according to local customs.

Last year, he also dealt a severe blow to the administration by annulling the privatisation of the largest industrial unit in Pakistan, the Pakistan Steel Mills. “The cases which were pending were the Gwadar land scam and certain constitutional issues. I was also going to look into the privatisation of the Habib Bank,” revealed Mr Iftikhar Mohammad Chaudhry.

In the last one year alone, he had taken suo motu notice of more than 6,000 cases of human rights’ abuse across the length and breadth of the country. In the two years since his elevation to that office the chief justice had cleared a massive backlog of cases and taken up, suo motu, several causes close to environmentalists and social reformers.